How To Get To Heaven When You Die

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xfrodobagginsx

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PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES
ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN? (CLICK 'READ MORE')

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began when the first humans, Adam and Eve were created and God put them in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect to live in fellowship with Him. There was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you, But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell. He is the only one qualified because He is the only one ever to live a sinless, perfect life.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10;13 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved...For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

4. You must submit your life to Jesus Christ and His will in Faith, believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, YOU COULD HUMBLY PRAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO GOD FROM YOUR HEART IN FAITH:

”Dear Lord Jesus I know that I am a sinner and need you to save me. I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I turn to You as the only way of Salvation, I submit my life to you, I submit my will to yours, I place my Faith and Trust in You alone as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have truly placed your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord, submitting your life to Him, you can know that you are a child of God and on your way to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
 
I’ll be burning but good luck in the soul catching.

Burning Music Video GIF by Ricky Martin
 
If you start thinking of death, you are no longer sure of life.

Everybody will undergo the sentence of the grave.

There is no rich person in a grave.

As long as a man lives, the entire world is too small for him...

After death, the grave is big enough.
 
HE MADMAN----Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: "I seek God! I seek God!"---As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Has he got lost? asked one. Did he lose his way like a child? asked another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? emigrated?---Thus they yelled and laughed

The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither is God?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him---you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us---for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than most distant stars---and yet they have done it themselves.

It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several churches and there struck up his requiem aeternam deo. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: "What after all are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of God?"
 
You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him
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Being a good person is exactly what people should do or give it their very best. I do not think for one moment people "go to heaven" for only adhering to church doctrine.

I think people do much better being red letter christians.
 
Akrta said:
@Samwise what's red letter Christians?
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In the old King James version of the bible, the words of Jesus (only) were all in red letters.

Red Letter Christians believe Christians should be paying attention to Jesus' words and example by promoting biblical values such as peace, building strong families, the elimination of poverty, and other important social justice issues.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES
ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN? (CLICK 'READ MORE')

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began when the first humans, Adam and Eve were created and God put them in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect to live in fellowship with Him. There was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you, But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell. He is the only one qualified because He is the only one ever to live a sinless, perfect life.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10;13 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved...For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

4. You must submit your life to Jesus Christ and His will in Faith, believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, YOU COULD HUMBLY PRAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO GOD FROM YOUR HEART IN FAITH:

”Dear Lord Jesus I know that I am a sinner and need you to save me. I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I turn to You as the only way of Salvation, I submit my life to you, I submit my will to yours, I place my Faith and Trust in You alone as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have truly placed your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord, submitting your life to Him, you can know that you are a child of God and on your way to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
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Alrighty Then Rev ... And Amen ... That Is A Powerful Scriptural Post You Made There .... Question Is .. Why Did You Post That ? ..

Does it Empower You ? ..... Make You Feel Above All The Lowly Spiritual Sinners That You Have Directed This At ? ...

And What About YOU ? ....Are You Above All These Spiritual Transgressions You Speak Of ? .. Are You Saved ? Spiritually ? ...

Why Should I BELIEVE In You ? ...You Are Just An Anonymous Voice On The Internet For All I Know ...

At Least You're Not Asking For A "Monetary Donation Of Faith To What Ever Religious Organization You Represent ...

I Think You Are Posting This To Validate Your Religious Faith .. And It Does Seem "Self Serving"

This Would Be Like A Billboard On The Interstate Highway .. Like "REPENT NOW .. THE END IS NEAR" ...

Very Powerful Psychological Religious Manipulation ..

And Extremely Empowering To The Person Or Religious Organization That Created It

"The First Shall Be Last" ... "And The Last Shall Be First" "For All Have Fallen Short Of The Glory Of God" ....

My Favorite Is .. "Let He That Is Among You That Is Without Sin .. Cast The First Stone"

Seems One Can Use And Weaponize Scripture For The Self Serving Purpose Of Validating Ones Religious Piety ....

Which Is Nothing More Than A Deflection Of Ones Own Spiritual Guilt From Being Aware Of Their Own Spiritual Transgressions ...

"Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged" .. "For All Have Fallen Short Of The Glory Of God" ...

Even Peter "Denied Him 3 Times .. Before The Cock Crowed" .....Judas Betrayed Him And Was Paid 30 Silver Coins ...

Thomas Doubted Him Until He Actually Put His Hands Upon His Wounds From His Crucifixion Even After He had Arisen

What About You ? ... By Creating This Thread ... Are You Now Above Being A Lowly Sinner ?
 
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Samwise said:
Being a good person is exactly what people should do or give it their very best. I do not think for one moment people "go to heaven" for only adhering to church doctrine.

I think people do much better being red letter christians.
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Is complying with Church doctrine sufficient for access to Heaven?
 
little cindy lou who said:
Alrighty Then Rev ... And Amen ... That Is A Powerful Scriptural Post You Made There .... Question Is .. Why Did You Post That ? ..

Does it Empower You ? ..... Make You Feel Above All The Lowly Spiritual Sinners That You Have Directed This At ? ...

And What About YOU ? ....Are You Above All These Spiritual Transgressions You Speak Of ? .. Are You Saved ? Spiritually ? ...

Why Should I BELIEVE In You ? ...You Are Just An Anonymous Voice On The Internet For All I Know ...

At Least You're Not Asking For A "Monetary Donation Of Faith To What Ever Religious Organization You Represent ...

I Think You Are Posting This To Validate Your Religious Faith .. And It Does Seem "Self Serving"

This Would Be Like A Billboard On The Interstate Highway .. Like "REPENT NOW .. THE END IS NEAR" ...

Very Powerful Psychological Religious Manipulation ..

And Extremely Empowering To The Person Or Religious Organization That Created It

"The First Shall Be Last" ... 'and The Last Shall Be First" "For All Have Fallen Short Of The Glory Of God" ....

My Favorite Is .. "Let He That Is Among You That Is Without Sin .. Cast The First Stone"

Seems One Can Use And Weaponize Scripture For The Self Serving Purpose Of Validating Ones Religious Piety ....

Which Is Nothing More Than A Deflection Of Ones Own Spiritual Guilt From Being Aware Of Their Own Spiritual Transgressions ...

"Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged" .. "For All Have Fallen Short Of The Glory Of God" ...

Even Peter "Denied Him 3 Times .. Before The Cock Crowed" .....Judas Betrayed Him And Was Paid 30 Silver Coins ...

Thomas Doubted Him Until He Actually Put His Hands Upon His Wounds From His Crucifixion Even After He had Arisen

What About You ? ... By Creating This Thread ... Are You Now Above Being A Lowly Sinner ?
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Did Judas Iscariot have God on his side?
 
Fluffy Wuffy said:
Did Judas Iscariot have God on his side?
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Judas Like Jesus Did What He Did .. And Thus Full Filled The Prophecies Of The Old Testament ...

As It Was All Meant To Happen Just As It Was Prophesied To Happen ..

To Save Humanity From Itself ... God As Man Was Crucified To Full Fill The Prophecies And Save Mankind From Itself ...

As An Act of Spiritual Love
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES
ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN? (CLICK 'READ MORE')

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began when the first humans, Adam and Eve were created and God put them in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect to live in fellowship with Him. There was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you, But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell. He is the only one qualified because He is the only one ever to live a sinless, perfect life.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10;13 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved...For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

4. You must submit your life to Jesus Christ and His will in Faith, believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, YOU COULD HUMBLY PRAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO GOD FROM YOUR HEART IN FAITH:

”Dear Lord Jesus I know that I am a sinner and need you to save me. I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I turn to You as the only way of Salvation, I submit my life to you, I submit my will to yours, I place my Faith and Trust in You alone as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have truly placed your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord, submitting your life to Him, you can know that you are a child of God and on your way to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
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Aaaaah free speech. Gotta love it.
Xfrodo I'll make you a deal.
Get your god to leave his card game with Santa Claus, Easter Bunny and the Boogey Man.
Have him come to my house, call me, text me or email me.
If he endorses your post, I'll believe you.
I have to warn you though. I got it on good authority that Sheba, Ra, Zeus and Poseidon are suppose to show up too and also that Aphrodite is bar tending at that card game.
Good luck though.
Really, I seriously wish you luck.
Alot of people have been trying to sell that same story for over 2,000 years to us people who are educated and can think for themselves.
Who knows, maybe you'll come up something they hadn't thought of.

I personally prefer to be a good person just because it's the right thing to do and not because I needed some deity or it's human mouth piece to tell me so.
Have a nice day.
 
Baby Universal said:
don't see athiest and agnosts shoving their beliefs down others throats like theists do.
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I don't need to.
I could care less if anyone thinks I'm right or not.
I know I'm right and that's good enough for me.
I don't feel any need to justify or convince anyone else that I'm right.
Nothing drives zealots crazier than an Atheist living a good life and thinking for themselves.
I don't need religion to tell me it's wrong to steal what someone else worked hard for.
I also don't need it to tell me not to kill someone.
Religion doesn't have a monopoly on right and wrong.

I'll trust someone who doesn't steal from me because they respect me and the idea I work for what I have before I will someone who says it's wrong because their pretend friend said it was.
 
Sigiere said:
Xfrodo I'll make you a deal.
Get your god to leave his card game with Santa Claus, Easter Bunny and the Boogey Man.
Have him come to my house, call me, text me or email me.
If he endorses your post, I'll believe you.
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Hmmm .. Interesting .... BUT ! .... Just Gotta Ask ....

Why Is Harry Wayne Casey aka KC Of The Sunshine Band Playing Cards With God, Santa Claus, And The Easter Bunny ? .....

He Seems Outta Place ... Just Saying ....

I'm your boogie man, that's what I am
I'm here to do whatever I can
Be it early morning, late afternoon
Or at midnight, it's never too soon
I want to please you, to want to keep you
To want to do it all, all for you
I want to be your, be your rubber ball
I want to be the one, you love most of all, oh yeah


Really ? That Guy ? The Disco Boogie Man ? .... Okay .. Sure .... Why Not 🙄

I Can Just See God, Santa Claus, KC, And The Easter Bunny Tapping Their Toes To The Disco Beat Under The Card Table 😎👍
 
The real boogey man. the one used to scare kids. Not the brain idled drug addict one. I never liked them anyways. I'm more of a Creedence guy myself.
 
Radiation said:
It's absolutely ridiculous for something as self-contradicting and usually violence condoning as religion to make a claim on being the ultimate source of morality.
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Interesting Post ...

Questioning The Validity Of Organized Religion

As To Its Copyright On Morality In Light Of It's Well Known Hypocrisy Through Out The History Of Human Civilization

And The Term .. "Ultimate Source Of Morality" .. Clearly A Philosophical Question .... Kind Of "Zen Zinger" ... I Love That ...

Human Morality Is It's Source .. Religious .. Or .. Philosophical .... ?

Early Humans Fought Off Troops Of Raiding Baboons While Living In Caves

And Suffered To Survive In An Extreme Physical Environment With Very Primitive Use Of Natural Resources

But With An Evolving Brain Superior To That Of Competing Life Forms And All Before The Advent Of Any Primitive Early Civilization ...

I Wonder Where Their "Morality" Came From .. They Were Tribal .. They Banded Together For Survival ...

They Had Families Male And Female Mates Had Children ... I'm Sure They Loved Their Children

And Did What They Could To Protect Them And Survive ...

And Must Have Had "Rules" Or Tribal Customs To Live By As To Ensure The Survival Of All ... Perhaps That Is Our "Source Of Morality"

Our Early Origins .. Early Humans Loved Their Children And Must Have Had Close Loving Friendships As Well .....

Not Much Language .. Grunts And Body Language And Gestures ....

I'm Sure They Looked Up At The Stars At Night And Wondered About Their Own Existence

Nature Would Provide Them Something To "Believe" In Or Worship ... There Is Proof Of Art .. The Cave Paintings ....

All This Before Any Ancient Civilization With An Organized Religion Or Philosophical Concepts Of Morality Appeared

And Now Here In The Most Advanced Society With The Most Powerful Military In The History Of The Known World

We Have Our Children Being Murdered In School Classrooms By Psychopaths With AR15 Assault Rifles

In Frequently Occurring Mass Shootings .... Huh ... Seems Pretty Immoral If You Ask Me ... To Let That Keep Happening ..

I Bet We Were Better At Protecting Our Children From Raiding Troops Of Baboons With Spears And Clubs When We Were In The Caves .
 
Sigiere said:
The real boogey man. the one used to scare kids.
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"The REAL Boogey Man" ? You Are Saying He Is Real ... Have You Ever Actually Seen This Scary Man ? ...

You Must Have ... As You Referred To Him As "The REAL Boogey Man" ..... And He Scares Kids ... You Being One Of Those "Kids" ...

I Have Never Seen The "Easter Bunny" I Have Seen Real Bunnies ....

I Once Saw Santa Claus On Xmas Eve When I Was Kid

That Didn't Scare Me Like Your Boogey Man Did To You

Because My Mommy Was kissing Santa Claus Who Was Actually My Dad In A Santa Suit ...

I Did See God Once ... When I Was On An LSD Trip ..... God Is Not At All Like Morgan Freeman ....

More Like George Carlin ... Well ... When You Are On LSD He Is ...

Well Now That I Know The Boogey Man Who Scares Kids Is REAL ...... I'm Totally Freakin Out ... Like I'm On A Bad LSD Trip ......

Thanks Alot .... If The Boogey Man Comes Around My Place I'm Sending Him To Yours
 
little cindy lou who said:
"The REAL Boogey Man" ? You Are Saying He Is Real ... Have You Ever Actually Seen This Scary Man ? ...

You Must Have ... As You Referred To Him As "The REAL Boogey Man" ..... And He Scares Kids ... You Being One Of Those "Kids" ...

I Have Never Seen The "Easter Bunny" I Have Seen Real Bunnies ....

I Once Saw Santa Claus On Xmas Eve When I Was Kid

That Didn't Scare Me Like Your Boogey Man Did To You

Because My Mommy Was kissing Santa Claus Who Was Actually My Dad In A Santa Suit ...

I Did See God Once ... When I Was On An LSD Trip ..... God Is Not At All Like Morgan Freeman ....

More Like George Carlin ... Well ... When You Are On LSD He Is ...

Well Now That I Know The Boogey Man Who Scares Kids Is REAL ...... I'm Totally Freakin Out ... Like I'm On A Bad LSD Trip ......

Thanks Alot .... If The Boogey Man Comes Around My Place I'm Sending Him To Yours
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I should have said "original" instead of real.
 
I SENT THIS MESSAGE TO ASK AI REGARDING THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS AND THIS IS THE RESPONSE I RECEIVED:

ME:

Write me an essay on how the secular, historical, non Biblical writings regarding Christ and shortly thereafter, affirm the resurrection of Jesus Christ :

ASK AI RESPONSE:

The resurrection of Jesus Christ is a central tenet of the Christian faith, and is regarded as a miraculous event that forms the basis of Christian belief. While the New Testament of the Bible provides a detailed account of the resurrection, there are also secular and historical writings that attest to the event.

One of the most significant secular sources to affirm the resurrection is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus. Josephus, who was born in the first century AD and lived through the first Jewish-Roman war, wrote extensively about Jewish history and the Roman occupation of Palestine. In his Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus mentions Jesus twice, and in one of these references, he describes how Jesus was crucified under Pontius Pilate, but that his disciples claimed he had appeared to them alive on the third day after his death.

Another secular source that affirms the resurrection is the Roman historian Tacitus. In his Annals, Tacitus describes how Nero blamed the Christians for the Great Fire of Rome in 64 AD, and how they followed a man named Christus who had been executed by Pontius Pilate. Tacitus also states that Christus "suffered the extreme penalty" and that his followers "had their name from him." While this reference does not explicitly mention the resurrection, it provides independent confirmation of the historical existence of Jesus and the events surrounding his death.

The Roman philosopher and statesman Seneca the Younger is another notable historical figure who wrote about the resurrection. In his Epistles, Seneca mentions the Christian belief in the resurrection, and describes it as a belief in the immortality of the soul. While Seneca does not directly affirm the resurrection, his writing provides evidence of the early Christian belief in the resurrection and the impact it had on Roman society.
Other historical sources that affirm the resurrection include the early Christian writer Clement of Rome, who wrote in the late first century AD about the resurrection of Jesus and its significance for Christians. The apostolic fathers, such as Ignatius of Antioch, also wrote about the resurrection and its importance for the Christian faith.

In conclusion, while the New Testament of the Bible provides the most detailed account of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, there are also secular and historical sources that attest to the event. These sources, which include Flavius Josephus, Tacitus, Seneca the Younger, and the early Christian writers, provide independent confirmation of the reality of Jesus' life, death, and resurrection, and testify to the profound impact that this event had on the early Christian community.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
I SENT THIS MESSAGE TO ASK AI REGARDING THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS AND THIS IS THE RESPONSE I RECEIVED:

ME:

Write me an essay on how the secular, historical, non Biblical writings regarding Christ and shortly thereafter, affirm the resurrection of Jesus Christ :

ASK AI RESPONSE:

The resurrection of Jesus Christ is a central tenet of the Christian faith, and is regarded as a miraculous event that forms the basis of Christian belief. While the New Testament of the Bible provides a detailed account of the resurrection, there are also secular and historical writings that attest to the event.

One of the most significant secular sources to affirm the resurrection is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus. Josephus, who was born in the first century AD and lived through the first Jewish-Roman war, wrote extensively about Jewish history and the Roman occupation of Palestine. In his Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus mentions Jesus twice, and in one of these references, he describes how Jesus was crucified under Pontius Pilate, but that his disciples claimed he had appeared to them alive on the third day after his death.

Another secular source that affirms the resurrection is the Roman historian Tacitus. In his Annals, Tacitus describes how Nero blamed the Christians for the Great Fire of Rome in 64 AD, and how they followed a man named Christus who had been executed by Pontius Pilate. Tacitus also states that Christus "suffered the extreme penalty" and that his followers "had their name from him." While this reference does not explicitly mention the resurrection, it provides independent confirmation of the historical existence of Jesus and the events surrounding his death.

The Roman philosopher and statesman Seneca the Younger is another notable historical figure who wrote about the resurrection. In his Epistles, Seneca mentions the Christian belief in the resurrection, and describes it as a belief in the immortality of the soul. While Seneca does not directly affirm the resurrection, his writing provides evidence of the early Christian belief in the resurrection and the impact it had on Roman society.
Other historical sources that affirm the resurrection include the early Christian writer Clement of Rome, who wrote in the late first century AD about the resurrection of Jesus and its significance for Christians. The apostolic fathers, such as Ignatius of Antioch, also wrote about the resurrection and its importance for the Christian faith.

In conclusion, while the New Testament of the Bible provides the most detailed account of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, there are also secular and historical sources that attest to the event. These sources, which include Flavius Josephus, Tacitus, Seneca the Younger, and the early Christian writers, provide independent confirmation of the reality of Jesus' life, death, and resurrection, and testify to the profound impact that this event had on the early Christian community.
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To rephrase that, no sources directly confirmed a resurrection, because people can't come back to life after being dead for three days.
 
Radiation said:
To rephrase that, no sources directly confirmed a resurrection, because people can't come back to life after being dead for three days.
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Exactly ... People Cannot Come Back To Life After Being Dead For Three Days

And There Is No Factual Or Scientific Evidence Of The "Resurrection" .. That Is A Matter of Spiritual "Faith" In A Miracle ..

Christianity Is Based On That One Tenet .. "Faith" ... Faith In That God As Man Overcame Death To Save Humanity From "Spiritual Death"

Christ Not Only Overcame Spiritual Death But Even Physical Death Which Would Be The Miracle The Disciples Witnessed

They Write Of Witnessing That In The Four Gospels That Christ Reappeared To Them Physically Before Ascending Into Heaven Spiritually ..

All Of That Was The Miracle That Cannot Be Proven .. You Believe In That Through "Faith"

There Are Other Miracles In The New Testament, Giving Sight To The Blind, Feeding The Masses With A Few Loaves Of Bread

Driving Demons Out Of A Man Possessed By Them, Healing The Sick, Healing A Crippled Man To Walk Again

Bringing Back From The Dead Lazarus Who Was Decomposing In His Crypt

For The Believers In Christianity It Is Faith In A Spiritual Resurrection Not A Physical Resurrection As Christ Had

Which Was Actually Symbolic Of A Spiritual Resurrection

But Even A Spiritual Resurrection Is A Miracle, Which I Believe Is What Christianity Is Based Upon, And You Believe That ... Through "FAITH"
 
Radiation said:
To rephrase that, no sources directly confirmed a resurrection, because people can't come back to life after being dead for three days.
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Yes it DOES confirm the Resurrection and only 1 person CAN come back to life after being dead and His Name is Jesus Christ, He will rule and reign on this earth forever. He came to save us from our sins if we will place our faith in Him to save us. Please read this first post.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
Yes it DOES confirm the Resurrection and only 1 person CAN come back to life after being dead and His Name is Jesus Christ, He will rule and reign on this earth forever. He came to save us from our sins if we will place our faith in Him to save us. Please read this first post.
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But Jesus is not real. There is no God, There is No Jesus, There is no Mohammad, all religion serves is to give people hope of not fading into non existence. If that makes you happy Go Jesus. You will not be reunited after death with your poor mom, or all the dogs you have lived with. You turn to dust. So the key is to live your best possible life and do good on this Earth. Because after you die, you are worm food well unless you get cremated.
 
xfrodobagginsx said:
Yes it DOES confirm the Resurrection and only 1 person CAN come back to life after being dead and His Name is Jesus Christ, He will rule and reign on this earth forever. He came to save us from our sins if we will place our faith in Him to save us. Please read this first post.
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Already Read It ...

Why Don't You Read That Chapter In The Bible Called "Hebrews" There Is No "Confirmation" Or "Evidence" Or "Factual Proof"

"Blessed Are They That Believe But Have Not Seen" John 20:29

You Believe Through Faith
 
BlackLivesMatter said:
But Jesus is not real. There is no God, There is No Jesus, There is no Mohammad, all religion serves is to give people hope of not fading into non existence. If that makes you happy Go Jesus. You will not be reunited after death with your poor mom, or all the dogs you have lived with. You turn to dust. So the key is to live your best possible life and do good on this Earth. Because after you die, you are worm food well unless you get cremated.
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Yeah ? ... How Do You Know ? ... Have You Been Beyond The Grave ? .... What If You Are WRONG ?
 
HOW TO GET TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE! Read This First Post, THEN Q & A Discussion! ASK QUESTIONS HERE!
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES.

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through trusting in what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you in faith.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

4. You must place your Faith in Jesus Christ believing in your heart that He died and rose again and shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, You could pray a prayer like the one below from your heart to Jesus Christ:

”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I repent and turn to You as the only way of salvation, I give my life to you, placing my Faith and Trust in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.


Studying The Bible Is Essential To Christians Growth. Click Here To Walk Through The Bible Verse By Verse From The Beginning, In 25 Minute Lessons:
 
You die, your blood no longer circulates, your brain dies and you cease to exist as an individual. Finito. No more. You decompose and you return to the elements from which you came. The elements that the molecules in your body contain were made in the forge of ancient supernovae and the chemistry that made you most probably occurred in the deep oceans around volcanic vents. After the first cells existed the multicellular bag of water and chemicals that is you came from around 3 billion years worth of evolution and natural selection. The same applies to all life extant on Earth today.
 
emileh said:
You die, your blood no longer circulates, your brain dies and you cease to exist as an individual. Finito. No more. You decompose and you return to the elements from which you came. The elements that the molecules in your body contain were made in the forge of ancient supernovae and the chemistry that made you most probably occurred in the deep oceans around volcanic vents. After the first cells existed the multicellular bag of water and chemicals that is you came from around 3 billion years worth of evolution and natural selection. The same applies to all life extant on Earth today.
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But … but, the firmament! The flat earth! The creation story! Heaven! Hell! My sooooooullll 😭

I think if I can be Satan’s daughter, there must be a heaven and God and Santa and angels and demons and worker elves.
 


Early Secular Writings Regarding Christ
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TACITUS: (55-117) A.D.)
Cornelius Tactitus is regarded as the greatest historian of ancient Rome. Writing on the reign of Nero, Tacitus alludes to the death of Christ and to the existence of Christians in Rome.
“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of on of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the word find their center and become popular.”

PLINY THE YOUNGER: (112 A.D.)
Pliny was governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor who wrote a letter to Trajan regarding how to deal with Christians who worshiped Christ. These letters concern an episode which marks the first time the Roman government acknowledged Christianity as a religion separate from Judaism, and set a precedent for the massive persecution of Christians that takes place in the second and third centuries.
“They (the Christians) were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sand in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath not to any wicked deeds, not to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor to deny any trust when they should be call to deliver it up, after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food —but food of an ordinary but and innocent kind.”

BABYLONIAN TALMUD: (Completed in the 6th Century A.D.)
The Babylonian Talmud is a Rabbinic commentary of the Jewish scriptures (Tanach: Old Testament). They are a look into what is a hostile source was saying about Jesus. They could not deny the miracles but claimed that it was sorcery rather than admit to what was a known fact.
“ On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried, “He is going forth to be stoned because He has practiced sorcery (an admission of his miracles) and enticed Israel to apostasy. Any one who can say anything in his favor let him come forward and plead on his behalf. But since nothing was brought forward in his favor he was hanged on the even of the Passover.”
The Babylonian Talmud, vol. III, Sanhedrin 43a

LUCIAN: (120-180 A.D.)
a Greek satirist that spoke scornfully of Christ and Christians, affirming that they were real and historical people, never saying that they were fictional characters.
“The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day — the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account….You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains the contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws. All this they take quite on faith, with the result that they despise all worldly goods alike, regarding them merely as common property.”
Lucian, The Death of Peregrine. 11-13.

LETTER OF MARA BARSARAPION: (73 A.D.)
Mara Bar-Serapion was a Syrian who lived in the first century A.D. He wrote a letter to his son Serapion that mentions the Jews who killed their King. The letter is now in the possession of the British Museum.
“What benefit did the Athenians obtain by putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as judgment for their crime. Or, the people of Samos for burning Pythagoras? In one moment their country was covered with sand. Or the Jews by murdering their wise king?…After that their kingdom was abolished. God rightly avenged these men…The wise king…Lived on in the teachings he enacted.”

THALLUS: (52 A.D.)
One of the first secular writers that mentioned Christ. Thallus wrote a history of the Eastern Mediterranean world from the Trojan War to his own time. Unfortunately, his writings are only found as citations by others. Julius Africanus, a Christian who wrote about AD 221 mentioned Thallus’ account of an eclipse of the sun (Luke 23:44-45).
“On the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down. This darkness Thallus, in the third book of his History, calls, as appears to me without reason, an eclipse of the sun.”
Julius Africanus, Chronography, 18:1.

PHLEGON: (1st Century)
A secular historian wrote a history named, “Chronicles.” This original work has been lost, Julius Africanus preserved a small fragment in his writings. Phlegon mentions the eclipse (Matthew 27:45) during the crucifixion of Jesus.
“During the time of Tiberius Caesar an eclipse of the sun occurred during the full moon.”
Africanus, Chronography, 18:1.

SUETONIUS: (69-140 A.D.)
A Roman historian and annalist of the Imperial House under the Emperor Hadrian. He refers to Christ and Christians and the “disturbances” caused by them, namely not worshipping idols and loving all, including their tormentors.
“Because the Jews at Rome caused constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus [Christ], he [Claudius] expelled them from the city [Rome].” Acts 18:2, which took place in 49 A.D.
Life of Claudius, 25:4.

In another work Suetonius wrote about the fire which devastated Rome in 64 A.D. under the reign of Nero. Nero blamed the Christians and exacted a heavy punishment upon them, among them covering them with pitch and burning them alive in his gardens.
“Nero inflicted punishment on the Christians, a sect given to a new and mischievous religious belief.”
Lives of the Caesars, 26.2

TOLEDOTH YESHU: (6 Century)
This is a derogatory version of the life of Jesus, growing out of the response of the Jewish community to Christianity. The tradition presented here is most commonly dated to approximately the 6th century CE. The text it self is closer to the 14th century.
Mentions the empty tomb and that the Jewish leaders found it empty. That Jesus was crucified on the eve of the Passover and that He claimed to be God. That Jesus performed sorcery, he healed, and that he taught Rabbis. All of this from a hostile source, with the references above it is a historical fact that Jesus did miracles. His enemies could not refute it, rather they explained it away as sorcery!

CELSUS: (2nd Century)
Criticizes the Gospels, unknowingly reinforces the authors and the content, he alludes to 80 different quotes in the Bible. Admits that the miracles of Jesus were generally believed in the 2nd century.

JULIAN THE APOSTATE: (332-363 A.D.)
Emperor of Rome mentions the Gospels, miracles and other facts about Jesus. Julian had struggled to end the power of Christians in the Roman Empire. Since the day fifty years earlier that Constantine conquered in the sign of the cross, Christian influence had steadily grown. As Julian lay dying from a mortal wound he made the following remark:

“As he bled, the dying emperor groaned, “You have conquered, O Galilean,” referring to Jesus Christ.
 
CLEMENT OF ROME: (100 A.D.)
Clement affirms the Resurrection, Gospels and that Jesus was sent to earth by God to take away our sins.
“Clement was the fourth bishop of Rome, the first being Peter. Did he know Peter and Paul? It is completely possible that those two Spirit-filled men taught him. Clement even wrote a letter to the Corinthian church that echoed the teachings of the apostles.”

IGNATIUS OF ANTIOCH: (50-107 A.D.)
Disciple of the apostles Peter, Paul, and John, who was martyred for his faith in Jesus. He was obviously convinced that Jesus really had lived and that Jesus was all that the apostles has said He was.
“…nearness to the sword is nearness to God; to be among the wild beasts is to be in the arms of God; only let it be in the name of Jesus Christ. I endure all things that I may suffer together with him, since he who became perfect man strengthens me…We have not only to be called Christians, but to be Christians.”
While the emperor Trajan was on a visit to Asia Minor, he arrested Ignatius. When the bishop confessed his faith in Christ, the Emperor sent him in chains to Rome to die. He was hustled to the arena at once and thrown to two fierce lions who immediately devoured him.

QUADRATUS: (125 A.D.)
Bishop of Athens and a disciple of the apostles. Church historian Eusebius has preserved the only work that we have from Quadratus.
“The deeds of our Savior were always before you, for they were true miracles; those that were healed, those that were raised from the dead, who were seen, not only when healed and when raised, but were always present. They remained living a long time, not only whilst our Lord was on earth, but likewise when he had left the earth. So that some of them have also lived in our times.”
Eusebius, IV, III

EPISTLE OF BARNABAS: (130-38 A.D.)
Mentions the Resurrection, miracles, content of the Gospels and the crucifixion of Jesus.

ARISTIDES: (138-161 A.D.)
Aristides was a second-century Christian believer and philosopher from Athens. This portion of his defense of Christianity was addressed to the Roman Emperor Antonius Pius, who reigned from 138-161 A.D.
“The Son of the most high God, revealed by the Holy Spirit, descended from heaven, born of a Hebrew Virgin. His flesh he received from the Virgin, and he revealed himself in the human nature as the Son of God. In his goodness which brought the glad tidings, he has won the whole world by his life-giving preaching…He selected twelve apostles and taught the whole world by his mediatorial, light-giving truth.
And he was crucified, being pierced with nails by the Jews; and he rose from the dead and ascended to heaven. He sent the apostles into all the world and instructed all by divine miracles full of wisdom. Their preaching bears blossoms and fruits to this day, and calls the whole world to illumination.”
Carey, “Aristides,” 68.

JUSTIN MARTYR: (106-167 A.D.)
Justin Martyr is regarded as one of the greatest early Christian apologists. He was born around 100 A.D and was beheaded for his faith in Jesus in 167 A.D. He mentions as facts many things about Jesus and Christianity, such as: The Magi (wise men who brought gifts from Arabia), King Herod, His crucifixion, His garments parted among the Roman soldiers, the apostles leaving him on the night of his arrest, his fulfilled prophecies, His resurrection and His ascending into heaven among many others. These quotes can be found in his debate with Trypho the Jew.

HEGESIPPUS: (2 Century)
Eusebius draws the conclusion that Hegesippus was a Jew that wrote five books called, “Memoirs.” Only fragments remain of his original work in the writings of Eusebius. They show that Hegesippus traveled extensively trying to determine if the stories of Jesus and the apostles were true. He found that they were accurate, even in the troubled church in Corinth.
“The Corinthian church continued in the true doctrine until Primus became bishop. I mixed with them on my voyage to Rome and spent several days with the Corinthians, during which we were refreshed with the true doctrine. On arrival at Rome I pieced together the succession down to Anicetus, whose deacon was Eleutherus, Anicetus being succeeded by Soter and he by Eleutherus. In every line of bishops and in every city things accord with the preaching of the Law, the Prophets, and the Lord.”
Eusebius, The History of the Church, 9.22.2.

TRAJAN: (53-117 A.D.)
Trajan is a Roman Emperor who wrote a letter [see letter] in response to the Governor of Asia Minor, Pliny the Younger. Pliny needed advice in dealing with “Christians” who renounced their belief in Jesus due to fear of torture and execution.

MACROBIUS: (4th-5th Century)
Pascal (Pensees) mentions a quote of Augustus Caesar as an evidence to the murder of the 7-20 male babies (this is based on the population of Bethlehem in 4-6 B.C., which was 700-1,000 people) by King Herod in Bethlehem (Matthew 2:16).
King Herod heard that a king was to be born and his fear and mental instability caused him to kill these male children under two years of age. King Herod killed his Wife, mother in law, and three sons. This is in character with his life of murder and paranoia. King Herod’s reign was described by his enemies as, “He stole to the throne like a fox, ruled like a tiger, and died like a dog.”
Saturnalia, lib. 2, ch.4.

HADRIAN: (106-167 A.D.)
Justin Martyr quotes this Roman Emperor’s letter to Minucius Fundanus, proconsul of Asia Minor. This letter deals with accusations from pagans against the Christians.
“I have received the letter addressed to me by your predecessor Serenius Granianus, a most illustrious man; and this communication I am unwilling to pass over in silence, lest innocent persons be disturbed, and occasion be given to the informers for practicing villainy. Accordingly, if the inhabitants of your province will so far sustain this petition of theirs as to accuse the Christians in some court of law, I do not prohibit them from doing so.
But I will not suffer them to make use of mere entreaties and outcries. For it is far more just, if any one desires to make an accusation, that you give judgment upon it. If, therefore, any one makes the accusation, and furnishes proof that the said men do anything contrary to the laws, you shall adjudge punishments in proportion to the offences.
And this, by Hercules; you shall give special heed to, that if any man shall, through mere calumny, bring an accusation against any of these persons, you shall award to him more severe punishments in proportion to his wickedness.”
Justin Martyr, The First Apology, Chapters, 68-69.

JUVENAL: (55 AD-127 AD)
Juvenal makes a reference of the tortures of Christians by Nero in Rome.
“But just describe Tigellinus and you will blaze amid those faggots in which men, with their throats tightly gripped, stand and burn and smoke, and you trace a broad furrow through the middle of the arena.”
Satires, 1, lines 147-157.

SENECA: (3 B.C.-65 A.D.)
Seneca mentions the cruelties that Nero imposes upon Christians.
“The other kind of evil comes, so to speak, in the form of a huge parade. Surrounding it is a retinue of swords and fire and chains and a mob of beasts to be let loose upon the disemboweled entrails of men. Picture to yourself under his head the prison, the cross, the rack, the hook, and the stake which they drive straight through a man until it protrudes from his throat. Think of human limbs torn apart by chariots driven in opposite directions, of the terrible shirt smeared and interwoven with inflammable materials, and of all the other contrivances devised by cruelty, in addition to those which I have mentioned!”
Epistulae Morales, Epistle 14, “On the Reasons for Withdrawing from the World.”

HIEROCLES: (AD 284-305)
A quote by Eusebius preserves some of the text of this lost work of Hierocles, Philalethes or Lover of Truth. In this quote, Hierocles condemns Peter and Paul as sorcerers. Again, their miracles could not be denied, rather they claimed that they used sorcery.
“And this point is also worth noticing, that whereas the tales of Jesus have been vamped up by Peter and Paul and a few others of the kind,–men who were liars and devoid of education and wizards.”
Eusebius, The Treatise of Eusebius, ch. 2.

ANTONIUS PIUS: (86 AD to 161 AD)
A letter from the Roman Emperor Antoninus Pius to the general assembly in Asia Minor. This letter says that the officials in Aisa Minor were getting upset at the Christians in their province, and that no changes are to be made in Antoninus’ method of dealing with them.
“The Emperor Caesar Titus AElius Adrianus Antoninus Augustus Pius, Supreme Pontiff, in the fifteenth year of his tribuneship, Consul for the third time, Father of the fatherland, to the Common Assembly of Asia, greeting: I should have thought that the gods themselves would see to it that such offenders should not escape.
For if they had the power, they themselves would much rather punish those who refuse to worship them; but it is you who bring trouble on these persons, and accuse as the opinion of atheists that which they hold, and lay to their charge certain other things which we are unable to prove.
But it would be advantageous to them that they should be thought to die for that of which they are accused, and they conquer you by being lavish of their lives rather than yield that obedience which you require of them. And regarding the earthquakes which have already happened and are now occurring, it is not seemly that you remind us of them, losing heart whenever they occur, and thus set your conduct in contrast with that of these men; for they have much greater confidence towards God than you yourselves have.
And you, indeed, seem at such times to ignore the gods, and you neglect the temples, and make no recognition of the worship of God. And hence you are jealous of those who do serve Him, and persecute them to the death.
Concerning such persons, some others also of the governors of provinces wrote to my most divine father; to whom he replied that they should not at all disturb such persons, unless they were found to be attempting anything against the Roman government. And to myself many have sent intimations regarding such persons, to whom I also replied in pursuance of my father’s judgment.
But if any one has a matter to bring against any person of this class, merely as such a person, let the accused be acquitted of the charge, even though he should be found to be such an one; but let the accuser he amenable to justice.”
Justin Martyr, The First Apology, ch. 70.
 
Frodo, you are all steeped in myths. It boggles the imagination that people think after they die their existence is continued in a magical world where we see grannie and Uncle Todd.
What this means is there is no sin. Sin is a man made concept. There is no Jesus. Jesus was a man that taught love which most of his followers seem not to get.
There is no god. Life is random. The take is to enjoy this existence. The Earth existed billions or years before you and will exist billions of years after until the Sun dies and all life ceases.
So Frodo quote all those bible scriptures and writings of the loons. Science is the truth. Religion is the lie.
 
BlackLivesMatter said:
Frodo, you are all steeped in myths. It boggles the imagination that people think after they die their existence is continued in a magical world where we see grannie and Uncle Todd.
What this means is there is no sin. Sin is a man made concept. There is no Jesus. Jesus was a man that taught love which most of his followers seem not to get.
There is no god. Life is random. The take is to enjoy this existence. The Earth existed billions or years before you and will exist billions of years after until the Sun dies and all life ceases.
So Frodo quote all those bible scriptures and writings of the loons. Science is the truth. Religion is the lie.
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Well YOU’RE not going to heaven!

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BlackLivesMatter said:
Frodo, you are all steeped in myths. It boggles the imagination that people think after they die their existence is continued in a magical world where we see grannie and Uncle Todd.
What this means is there is no sin. Sin is a man made concept. There is no Jesus. Jesus was a man that taught love which most of his followers seem not to get.
There is no god. Life is random. The take is to enjoy this existence. The Earth existed billions or years before you and will exist billions of years after until the Sun dies and all life ceases.
So Frodo quote all those bible scriptures and writings of the loons. Science is the truth. Religion is the lie.
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Long live entropy!

Well at least until the heat death of the universe...
 
little cindy lou who said:
Alrighty Then Rev ... And Amen ... That Is A Powerful Scriptural Post You Made There .... Question Is .. Why Did You Post That ? ..

Does it Empower You ? ..... Make You Feel Above All The Lowly Spiritual Sinners That You Have Directed This At ? ...

And What About YOU ? ....Are You Above All These Spiritual Transgressions You Speak Of ? .. Are You Saved ? Spiritually ? ...

Why Should I BELIEVE In You ? ...You Are Just An Anonymous Voice On The Internet For All I Know ...

At Least You're Not Asking For A "Monetary Donation Of Faith To What Ever Religious Organization You Represent ...

I Think You Are Posting This To Validate Your Religious Faith .. And It Does Seem "Self Serving"

This Would Be Like A Billboard On The Interstate Highway .. Like "REPENT NOW .. THE END IS NEAR" ...

Very Powerful Psychological Religious Manipulation ..

And Extremely Empowering To The Person Or Religious Organization That Created It

"The First Shall Be Last" ... "And The Last Shall Be First" "For All Have Fallen Short Of The Glory Of God" ....

My Favorite Is .. "Let He That Is Among You That Is Without Sin .. Cast The First Stone"

Seems One Can Use And Weaponize Scripture For The Self Serving Purpose Of Validating Ones Religious Piety ....

Which Is Nothing More Than A Deflection Of Ones Own Spiritual Guilt From Being Aware Of Their Own Spiritual Transgressions ...

"Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged" .. "For All Have Fallen Short Of The Glory Of God" ...

Even Peter "Denied Him 3 Times .. Before The Cock Crowed" .....Judas Betrayed Him And Was Paid 30 Silver Coins ...

Thomas Doubted Him Until He Actually Put His Hands Upon His Wounds From His Crucifixion Even After He had Arisen

What About You ? ... By Creating This Thread ... Are You Now Above Being A Lowly Sinner ?
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