The way issues are being dealt with

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ZombiUnicornis

ZombiUnicornis

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When issues are dealt in secret no good comes from it and issues are rarely resolved.

This is something we see in world history with in governments, churches and many other influential organisations.

At best you have your constituents become disenchanted discontent and suspicious of your motives and actions. Its often a cowardly act that can be construed as attempting to hide something.

At worst it allows issues, including very evil issues to fester and grow, a brief glace at the catholic church shows this. How different would have the outcome have been if that organisation had been open and honest in their dealings.

Why is it we have to deal with issues in secret in girls chat? Why is it we cant have a public and sensible discussion of the issues that affect us all? What is so dangerous or damaging about openness?

I myself have had several issues brushed under the carpet and I regularly see issues dealt with in this way. Threads are closed and people are told to use private message. Why even have a kick ban enquiries section?

As a mod I always wanted issues that ******** brought up about me in public. I wanted the opportunity either to defend myself of to see perhaps I could improve myself and act differently in the future. Were some complaints stupid and annoying? Yes they were but I would rather be able to pint this out and why publicly.

At the moment there are issues that are bubbling away causing some to be discontent. I don't necessarily agree with all the issues some have. Some who have issues I don't even like or generally agree with. But I feel all should be publicly dealt with and debated so we can at least have a sense that things are being looked at.

At the moment there is an underlying feeling that none of us really matter, that our complaints are not being dealt with.

Sores that fester lead to loss of limbs and ultimately death.
 
I love things being out in the open for the most part, secrecy only protects the ones in the wrong.

the issues lie when people use this to their advantage as an excuse to harass or disrupt the room and/or a user, or its the same thing over and over again no matter what the outcome.

I guess there is other cases where it being open could potentially harm getting the right outcome against a dangerous user.

and as mentioned, some people just have issues to have issues that are completely unjust and even if it isn't just for the purpose of disruption or harassment, that is what it could lead to anyway.

I would say for the most part it is just another case of the few ruining it for the many. Alot of people around that just want to cause chaos for any reason they can.
 
Cuddles- said:
I love things being out in the open for the most part, secrecy only protects the ones in the wrong.

the issues lie when people use this to their advantage as an excuse to harass or disrupt the room and/or a user, or its the same thing over and over again no matter what the outcome.

I guess there is other cases where it being open could potentially harm getting the right outcome against a dangerous user.

and as mentioned, some people just have issues to have issues that are completely unjust and even if it isn't just for the purpose of disruption or harassment, that is what it could lead to anyway.

I would say for the most part it is just another case of the few ruining it for the many. Alot of people around that just want to cause chaos for any reason they can.
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Of course that's appropriate for in the room itself. I am mainly talking about here on forums where its not disruptive to the chat room and far easier to take time to consider replies and easily deal with foolish or spurious complaints or issues.
 
helloagain said:
@ZombiUnicornis what is your problem ? You mean that forum moderator are useless ? no brain?

how many times you and your little squad bring this on forum about @Amaisey about maks

You can't force things to be done because that's not how it's work and you are mature enough to know

What amaisey ever done to you that you so haterz

If it's about your moderator post well knows everyone - no one removed you nor any of your friend

maks maks maks

We know he done some rules break after he decided to change himself than admin decided to give him a chance and you people argue why is it why why why...can't you think something like big something like open minded - no one is not perfect except me 🙄 ofcourse the point is if admin want to give the chance you should respect the decision , after if he do something just gather the proof and show to the admin

If you think admin no good because taking side of bad people , what about me ? Why i am banned in a girls chat from amaisey ?
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Super once again you show a lack of inteligence or understanding of any issue being discussed.......you're banned for trolling and for homophobic abuse etc
 
ZombiUnicornis said:
Of course that's appropriate for in the room itself. I am mainly talking about here on forums where its not disruptive to the chat room and far easier to take time to consider replies and easily deal with foolish or spurious complaints or issues.
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ah, in that case i have much less reason i could think of. Only the couple of users, such as Corey, who use the forums to extend their constant disruption of the room already hoping the can run to the forums hoping for a different outcome to the inevitable. But even them kinda usual suspects are dealt with anyway.

Other than things like that i cant think of many other reasons so long as it isnt the same few things on repeat hoping if the dice is rolled enough times an answer will change.
 
Cuddles- said:
ah, in that case i have much less reason i could think of. Only the couple of users, such as Corey, who use the forums to extend their constant disruption of the room already hoping the can run to the forums hoping for a different outcome to the inevitable. But even them kinda usual suspects are dealt with anyway.

Other than things like that i cant think of many other reasons so long as it isnt the same few things on repeat hoping if the dice is rolled enough times an answer will change.
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The beauty of Coreys posts is he just looks more and more insipid and stupid. i knew every to me he would complain about me when I was in the right he would look the fool he actually is.

Regular genuine complaints that are not the same incident over and over but are basically the same topic can lead to good change.

When light is focused then truth can come to light.
 
But I have discussed this issue about forums. Letting admins wanitng complaints only private messaged so they can secretly determine things or just ignore the messages. I think it is corrupt and unethical
 
Because some are cowardly and selfish. It is very easy to be a mediocre person and professional in the rooms, when these people can use their influential friends in the Forum as a shield of protection, to escape the consequences of their own negative attitudes, asking that a post be closed, deleted, discrediting or blaming the OP himself when he opens a claim.
It's all too easy to blame an OP when a mediocre professional gets a lot of complaints, rather than face one's own shame and incompetence. Yes, the OP is not to blame if the name of a mediocre professional constantly appears in the complaints thread, besides himself. If a mediocre professional doesn't want his name to appear constantly in the complaints thread, then let him do a good job so that his name never appears in that thread. Interesting, why the good employees who are here doing a good job, giving their best and not being a shitty person, are never in the complaints forum? Well, why would that be? Because they try very hard not to have their name in the complaints thread. Fair!
And why is this the behavior of a selfish professional? Because, when he trivializes the topic of complaint in this way, trying to hide and escape the consequences of being a mediocre professional, he disrespects and shames all the good employees here, who strive to deliver good work. And they try incredibly hard. I had the pleasure of seeing this with my own eyes: employees here being good professionals, trying really hard to do a good job. And it was beautiful and amazing to see the teamwork that they did. It was beautiful and admirable. But unfortunately, they are absurdly disrespected and embarrassed every day here on this site, because while they strive and do a lot to do and give their best, some here prefer to remain mediocre professionals and they still have the audacity to use influential friends as a protection shield to remain a mediocre professional or a shitty person. Because of this, the site keeps dying, people keep leaving, and all the work of those good employees who try their best to deliver the best they can to the site's users, is simply thrown in the trash and disrespected every day here, unfortunately. It's sad!
 
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! Burnt Pizza said:
But I have discussed this issue about forums. Letting admins wanitng complaints only private messaged so they can secretly determine things or just ignore the messages. I think it is corrupt and unethical
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That's because you didn't see what they did with a complaint topic here, the topic was simply DELETED.😲😲😳😳 Yes, that's what you heard. Thread has not been closed, has not been edited. Topic has been DELETED. Bizarre and insane! 😶😶
 
GFB said:
That's because you didn't see what they did with a complaint topic here, the topic was simply DELETED.😲😲😳😳 Yes, that's what you heard. Thread has not been closed, has not been edited. Topic has been DELETED. Bizarre and insane! 😶😶
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Some people do wrong things, some people act arbitrarily, but then they don't want to receive complaints about the negative actions they themselves have. Bizarre and insane! 👀😶
 
Its not even about if someone does something wrong, it gives a poor perception and can only lead to more discontent with a sense of a lack of justice. There are many complaints publicly dealt with that the person complaining is wrong ( Corey is a classic example with 99% of his complaints) and a number who realise they were wrong or it was just an error. They come away from the situation feeling better about it and those who watch some things too feel as if things are being dealt with.

Having said that yes there have been topics deleted or moved to areas the average chatter and the person bringing the issue up cant see and cant see its been dealt with in at the very least an honest and inteligent way.
 
! Burnt Pizza said:
Oh you are right I didn't know that. That is messed up.
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Yes, very confused and sad. It's sad because of the good users of this site who don't deserve this kind of violent and disrespectful conduct and will always leave here because of this kind of disrespect, and sad too, for the good employees of this site who work here and do their best all every day, to improve this place and give its best to the users. This is taking their work and effort and throwing it in the trash. Anyway, sad!
The post was called 'Mods Useless'.
https://imgur.com/TX2Ir0A
 
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GFB said:
Yes, very confused and sad. It's sad because of the good users of this site who don't deserve this kind of violent and disrespectful conduct and will always leave here because of this kind of disrespect, and sad too, for the good employees of this site who work here and do their best all every day, to improve this place and give its best to the users. This is taking their work and effort and throwing it in the trash. Anyway, sad!
The post was called 'Mods Useless'.
https://imgur.com/TX2Ir0A
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Well the title it's self could be seen as disrespectful too. I don't know the context of the post tho
 
Its not based in any particular staff member or individual issue. The fact is Girls Chat complaints are handled in the dark the only other room to do this is Lesbian chat. Its a very common complaint about our room.

I note I had this view when I was a mod, I didn't like it then and I don't like it now.

At the very least it open things up to accusations of abuse of power to actually allowing abuse of power. Issues dealt with in secret inevitably end up that way. History is very clear on that, over and over organisations that handle complaints in secret end up in those situations. Catholic Church, BBC, Anglican Church (here in Australia not sure about world wide) Harvey Weinstein issue , Jeffrey Epstein issue just to name a few which were handled poorly and in secret.

A number of times issues have been made secret and definitely not resolved in my time here.

I know as a mod I couldn't put my case forward as the threads were closed due to this policy.

At the end of the day Its poor policy for moral.
 
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