Sexist draft
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purplerose
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thought the same thing. seems theres an issue with reading threads tho so itll get overlooked.
SerenityMoon
Gold Member
@little cindy lou who If you think those are the only deferments than you are sadly mistaken. If you are going to use deferment at a point of your post you have to take all possibilities into account. A draftees status changed according to many factors that had nothing to do with wealth:
Obesity.
Criminal Records.
Health Problems.
Drugs.
Immigrants and dual nationals.
conscientious objector status.
insincere religious or ethical beliefs.
The “only son”, “the last son to carry the family name,” and ” sole surviving son” must register with Selective Service. These sons can be drafted. However, they may be entitled to peacetime deferment if there is a military death in the immediate family.
While ADHD alone does not disqualify a person from military service, the Department of Defense (DOD) places significant enlistment restrictions on individuals with an ADHD diagnosis and/or prior treatment with medication. Has documentation of adverse academic, occupational, or work performance. There fore they will be selected farther down on the draft lists.
It only takes a bit of looking to educate yourself.
Obesity.
Criminal Records.
Health Problems.
Drugs.
Immigrants and dual nationals.
conscientious objector status.
insincere religious or ethical beliefs.
The “only son”, “the last son to carry the family name,” and ” sole surviving son” must register with Selective Service. These sons can be drafted. However, they may be entitled to peacetime deferment if there is a military death in the immediate family.
While ADHD alone does not disqualify a person from military service, the Department of Defense (DOD) places significant enlistment restrictions on individuals with an ADHD diagnosis and/or prior treatment with medication. Has documentation of adverse academic, occupational, or work performance. There fore they will be selected farther down on the draft lists.
It only takes a bit of looking to educate yourself.
AshleeLightBringer
Silver Member
Agreed. However, in the case of the conscientious objector, the person would be assigned to alternative service such as conservation, caring for the very young or very old, education, or health care. The person whose beliefs allow him to serve in the military but in a noncombatant capacity will serve in the Armed Forces but will not be assigned training or duties that include using weapons.
little cindy lou who
Gold Member
Oh My ... What A Condescending Dig At The End Of That Post ... AAH Muuust Eddchoomacayte Maah Selff Bettah ...k ..
The Deferment "Issue" Is About How Unfair The Draft Was As It Effected Mostly Those Who Were At An Economic Disadvantage
As They Had Not The Financial Ability To Attend College Thereby Obtaining A STUDENT DRAFT DEFERMENT
Or With A Medical Doctors Manipulation Of A Medical Exam
Creating A Fraudulent Reason For A Medical Disqualification Of Military Service . ( General Donald J "Bone Spurs" Trump )
Those Two Reasons Were The Most Prevalent Reasons For The Draft Being Unfair .
All The Various Deferments And The Incidentals Of The Selective Service
Is Factual Obfuscation To Distract From An Argumentative Point .
Wouldn't You Agree Dear ?
AshleeLightBringer
Silver Member
We're getting off track. The point of the thread is whether or not it's sexist not to include women in the draft, not the reasons not to be included.
little cindy lou who
Gold Member
It's Obviously Sexist ... I see No Argument
SerenityMoon
Gold Member
By definition in short, yes, because it is treating men and women differently specifically because of their gender.
The US Senate approved a bill which required women to register for Selective Service on 14 June 2016, which would have been a step towards equality.
However, the House of Representatives approved a bill which would block women from Selective Service requirements on 7 July 2016, indicating the Senate bill would likely be blocked by the Senate.
When the Selective Service System was created, women were excluded from combat roles, thus making them ineligible for registration. On Dec. 3, 2015, the Department of Defense lifted all gender-based restrictions on military service, which was put into practice the following month. But as of March 2022, there is no requirement for females to register with the SSS or be subject to a future military draft. The number of calls to expand the draft beyond men has increased since 2015, but the amendment to require this was dropped from a large defense bill in 2021.
Even people who are born female and have changed their gender to male are excluded from the requirement to register for the Selective Service.
AshleeLightBringer
Silver Member
I agree that women should be a part of the selective service process, there is no reason why not. There have been different reasons suggested as to why women have been excluded such as placing women in combat roles would undermine the strength of our forces, and this has been proven to be untrue, and that women would be a sexual distraction to males in the military, which bears some truth based on the number of reported rapes. However, as with males that have siblings and each must register and the last remaining son may be exempt, the same should apply when there are multiple sisters, and if a couple has children, and both were registered, only one parent should be inducted so that the child(ren) has a parent at home. By the way, I disagree with barring transgender in a time of war, even if they are placed in noncombat roles, every soldier counts, afterward, they can be discharged.
SerenityMoon
Gold Member
That's an entirely different debate.
Same if they are willing and able to fill the role I say let them. If they "chose" to be male they should be eligible for front line combat duties. I mean if you are going with the assumption that a transwoman is a woman and a trans man is a man.
AshleeLightBringer
Silver Member
I doubt that you were ever in the military. I'm sure you couldn't handle being told what to do by a superior, especially if that superior was a woman. But if you were, you would see just how sexist the military is toward women. Maybe that should have been the thread.