If women unable or unwilling to have children are real women

[Bread.]

Then explain to me this.

We send a spaceship to two sustainable planets

On spaceship A there is a group of 10 men and 30 women. In 100 years that planet will be thriving and populated with 1000s of people.

On spaceship B there is a group of 10 men and 30 trans women. In 100 years you'll find no signs of life and the bones of 40 men.

Tell me I'm wrong.

 

[Chaotica_x0x]

Assuming we're far enough into the future for intergalactic space travel I'm hoping the technology of uterine transplants and stem cells organ creation is there.

I don't know. I'm not a technologist but perhaps such augmentation is something to hope for.

 

[Bread.]

You are adding unnecessary hypotheticals.

I was going to say islands instead of planets but then someone was going to say something stupid like you did and say they could swim or travel somewhere else.

There is nothing besides the point that real women can reproduce and trans women can't.

 

[DarthErica]

say something stupid

Yea you did with this post. Transphobes gonna phobe 😒

 

[Chaotica_x0x]

You are adding unnecessary hypotheticals.

I was going to say islands instead of planets but then someone was going to say something stupid like you did and say they could swim or travel somewhere else.

There is nothing besides the point that real women can reproduce and trans women can't.

A far off future hypothetical. You sure got us. 👍

 

[SerenityMoon]

Believe the science ...

 

[beer_pong]

Trans women are hotter than most biological women and most are geniunue unlike shitty biological women so **** them I hope I get married to a trans hottie

 

[Deleted member 263960]

Then explain to me this.

We send a spaceship to two sustainable planets

On spaceship A there is a group of 10 men and 30 women. In 100 years that planet will be thriving and populated with 1000s of people.

On spaceship B there is a group of 10 men and 30 trans women. In 100 years you'll find no signs of life and the bones of 40 men.

Tell me I'm wrong.

you seem to be arguing that to be deemed a "real woman" the ability to have children is essential. (And the chromosomes) Just that, or more?

 

[wildwestwanderer]

Where is the planet where people live that don’t give a single solitary f*ck about what other people do with their lives? I want to go there.

 

[DarthErica]

Where is the planet where people live that don’t give a single solitary f*ck about what other people do with their lives? I want to go there.

You and me both

 

[DarthErica]

Elroy is at it again 🙄

 

[DontCostYaNuffin]

New research suggests that we’ll likely evolve a new sex gene. Two branches of rodents have already lost their Y chromosomes, namely the Amami spiny rat and Mole voles.

Sources: https://www.sciencealert.com/the-y-... need sperm,determining gene comes with risks.

Sex, genes, the Y chromosome and the future of men

The Y chromosome, that little chain of genes that determines the sex of humans, is not as tough as you might think. In fact, if we look at the Y chromosome over the course of our evolution we’ve seen it…

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Chromosomal Evolution in Mole Voles Ellobius (Cricetidae, Rodentia): Bizarre Sex Chromosomes, Variable Autosomes and Meiosis

This study reports on extensive experimental material covering more than 30 years of studying the genetics of mole voles. Sex chromosomes of Ellobius demonstrate an extraordinary case of mammalian sex chromosomes evolution. Five species of mole voles ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2211574119

 

[Inkandtatts]

Then explain to me this.

We send a spaceship to two sustainable planets

On spaceship A there is a group of 10 men and 30 women. In 100 years that planet will be thriving and populated with 1000s of people.

On spaceship B there is a group of 10 men and 30 trans women. In 100 years you'll find no signs of life and the bones of 40 men.

Tell me I'm wrong.

On spaceship A there is Bread. End of story

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The title of this thread is intentionally inflammatory, transphobic, and misogynistic. It's the equivalent of saying a woman isn't a "real woman" because she's had her ovaries removed due to cancer.

I'm all for open debate but this person is going too far to push his agenda. If I'm wrong on that, then the title of the thread needs to be changed to say "If women unable or unwilling to have children are real women" (although even that is grotesque and disgusting)

 

[1highfairy]

not sure what point you're trying to make...

obviously transgender folks can't change their biological sex. gender expression and biological sex are two different things. i thought this was well-established already.

we are all humans trying to exist peacefully on this earth. not sure how someone changing their gender identity would affect you so much to the point of making a post about it on chat avenue forums. chill out

 

[1highfairy]

You are adding unnecessary hypotheticals.

I was going to say islands instead of planets but then someone was going to say something stupid like you did and say they could swim or travel somewhere else.

There is nothing besides the point that real women can reproduce and trans women can't.

there are plenty of biological females who can't reproduce. it does not make them any less of a woman. educate yourself on infertility issues.

let's also not forget the people who were born intersex, too. are you going to call an intersex woman a fake woman because they were born differently than average biological females?

you seem too caught up on defining what is or isn't a woman. why is it relevant to you?

 

[emileh]

not sure what point you're trying to make...

obviously transgender folks can't change their biological sex. gender expression and biological sex are two different things. i thought this was well-established already.

we are all humans trying to exist peacefully on this earth. not sure how someone changing their gender identity would affect you so much to the point of making a post about it on chat avenue forums. chill out

This^^

OP. What other people choose to do with their lives is none of your business and neither is who they decide to choose as a partner. Put away the so obvious bigotry and get on with your own life.

 

[Bread.]

you seem to be arguing that be be deemed a "real woman" the ability to have children is essential. (And the chromosomes) Just that, or more?

It's not more essential than being male is the ability to fertilize an egg and dominate women in all aspects of sports because of their genetic structure.

there are plenty of biological females who can't reproduce. it does not make them any less of a woman. educate yourself on infertility issues.

let's also not forget the people who were born intersex, too. are you going to call an intersex woman a fake woman because they were born differently than average biological females?

you seem too caught up on defining what is or isn't a woman. why is it relevant to you?

Genetic mutations or medical conditions do not alter the fact that females aren't born with testicles and a penis.

 

[Bread.]

Trans women can do whatever they want I'm not telling them how to live their lives I'm simply stating facts. Trans women aren't real women

 

[Inkandtatts]

Trans women can do whatever they want I'm not telling them how to live their lives I'm simply stating facts. Trans women aren't real women

"Moisture contributes to the faster growth of mold. Hence, do not allow bread to turn moist."

 

[wildwestwanderer]

Who cares neither would **** you.