RIP Charlie Kirk |

In long halls where voices rose and fell,
One stood firm and gave his all.
Not for fame or fleeting praise,
But for a cause that lit his days.
He spoke with flair and walked with grace,
A tireless heart in a resting place.
Though storms would gather, winds would roar,
He held his ground and asked for more.
Not all agreed, not all stood near,
But even those who did not cheer
Could see the spark, the steady flame
Of someone bold enough to claim—
That life is short and truth is long,
And every soul inspires a song.
He sang his own with fervent breath,
Until the silence came with death.
Now echoes fill the space he left—
Of dreams pursued, of time bereft.
And in that echo, hearts may find
A trace of courage left behind.
 
RandomGuyUK said:
i live in England.
unfortunately our land is influenced by batshit crazy American things.

"Someone throwing a brick through a Starbucks window or setting fire to a cop car because they are tired of corporations".
Yeah. --- so that is excusable then? do you really think that is OK?

it's not. piss off.
Both things are dumb as ****.

ALL violence isnt good.
and - YES - the covid and especially BLM violent riots. ... left and right. They were both awful.

angry people are a shitshow.
Angry rightys are bad, yes; and angry leftys are bad too.
It's very sad.
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Guy from uk trying to tell an American who was literally at those protests (not riots) how it went down in his own country. Okay buddy. Back to faux news with you.
 
GothandRock said:
I just wanted to share something that i worked on for Charlie
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It's largely wrong. He wasn't any of that, certainly not speaking with flair and walking with grace. He wasn't a debater either he was an indoctrinator. A spreader of inflammatory propaganda that had no basis whatsover in truth. A truly unpleasant individual.

Yes he was murdered but that doesn't miraculously gloss over what he was. Sympathy to his family members but he can have the thoughts and prayers he espoused - from an atheist that saw right through him.
 
I think it is high time we thank the left for promoting their hate to the point that it influenced the assassin to do what he did, because now it means it is fair game in America to Assassinate anyone that anybody on either side of the isle feels is a terrible person.

So now as far as political extremists go, the extremists on the right can alert all the whacko militas and white supremacists to go after the all the extremists on the left like who ever the assassin was, on top of elected officials, talking heads, etc.

and those of us in the middle we can just sit back, and let the two sides thin each other out.

Also kudos on making Kirk a martyr; because everyone knows, when you really want to silence someone you politically or religiously hate, make sure to assassinate the person, worked great for taking out Jesus, Martin Luther King, Abraham Lincoln, etc.

wow i got a lot of gramatical errors, someone count them all and correct them for me, i am way to lazy to do it.
 
BlackLivesMatter said:
Let's deep dive Chuckie Kirk as to statements he has made.
Gay people should be stoned to death, Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband, MLK was an awful person, Most people are scared if they see a black pilot flying a plane, The guy who assaulted the Pelosi's should be bailed out, George Floyd had it coming the January 6 protestors did not, parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control and girls who end up pregnant should carry the birth to term, People should not be allowed to retire, Women's natural place is under their husband's control, The 1964 Civil Right's Act was a huge mistake, M.L.K. was a horrible person. ....

Just a few quotes from his videos, I am sorry , TOC and others who teeter on the far right the man does not deserve to be a martyr.
His brand of rhetoric called for divide and hatred of those not like the pure white race.

No one is celebrating his murder. We are just tired of his type of hatred.
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So if we disagree with something he has said, the next step is to talk about it -- not shoot him. He welcomed debate and was willing to challenge people over their ideas, how ever far they may be from his own. Personally, I'm not one of his fans -- he's religious whereas I'm not. A lot of his talking points stem directly from a Christian's point of view and the Bible.

However, I came here to give my condolences over a man who got killed over words, a man with a supportive, loving wife and two kids. He absolutely did not deserve such a senseless end. Always remember that violence only breeds violence. The more we condone this type of behavior (that it's okay to kill people over a difference of opinion), the more it becomes normalized in our society, leading to our nation's decline.

Murder is a crime and should never be celebrated.
 
SexyCheryl said:
You're the weird one pretending some bloke who shagged guns was relevant here.
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It's called keeping up with current affairs and world news. He's relevant as he's part of an increasing global trend that's affecting the UK as well. Still, you feel free to wander through your life not giving a crap about anything other than petty arguments here. Lol and you call me weird? 🤣
 
that one chick said:
So if we disagree with something he has said, the next step is to talk about it -- not shoot him. He welcomed debate and was willing to challenge people over their ideas, how ever far they may be from his own. Personally, I'm not one of his fans -- he's religious whereas I'm not. A lot of his talking points stem directly from a Christian's point of view and the Bible.

However, I came here to give my condolences over a man who got killed over words, a man with a supportive, loving wife and two kids. He absolutely did not deserve such a senseless end. Always remember that violence only breeds violence. The more we condone this type of behavior (that it's okay to kill people over a difference of opinion), the more it becomes normalized in our society, leading to our nation's decline.

Murder is a crime and should never be celebrated.
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So it is okay for those on the right to mock the misfortunes and say nasty things about those on the left?
An example is this from Donald Trump while attending the republican convention in California in Sept of 2023 while running for reelection. "
“We’ll stand up to crazy Nancy Pelosi, who ruined San Francisco — how’s her husband doing, anybody know?” Trump said to a raucous crowd of California Republicans at a state party convention. “And she’s against building a wall at our border, even though she has a wall around her house — which obviously didn’t do a very good job.”
So to get your point that is perfectly fine but saying Charlie Kirk was a trouble maker is not?
Charlie Kirk was a tik tok influencer that spread propaganda. He does not deserve to be a martyr.
Once again I am against violence but really TOC, all of us left of center is getting tired of all the repression. We will not lie down to let Trump have his way with us.
 
BlackLivesMatter said:
So it is okay for those on the right to mock the misfortunes and say nasty things about those on the left?
An example is this from Donald Trump while attending the republican convention in California in Sept of 2023 while running for reelection. "
“We’ll stand up to crazy Nancy Pelosi, who ruined San Francisco — how’s her husband doing, anybody know?” Trump said to a raucous crowd of California Republicans at a state party convention. “And she’s against building a wall at our border, even though she has a wall around her house — which obviously didn’t do a very good job.”
So to get your point that is perfectly fine but saying Charlie Kirk was a trouble maker is not?
Charlie Kirk was a tik tok influencer that spread propaganda. He does not deserve to be a martyr.
Once again I am against violence but really TOC, all of us left of center is getting tired of all the repression. We will not lie down to let Trump have his way with us.
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Honestly, I'm not a part of this thread to debate about Trump, as you clearly so badly want to. Nothing against you but not everything is about him and left vs right. I'm literally only here to pay my respects to a man who shouldn't have been killed over his beliefs, regardless of what that may be.

If we condone political violence and laugh or celebrate the death of a whole life over opinions, then we're no better than savages. We will be the downfall of our own country through political division, especially if we let this situation escalate more and it becomes an all-out war between both parties.

Also, you seem to have a misunderstanding about me. I don't represent any one political party. I have and will always vote for the one who I feel is the best for the country. For example, I voted for Obama when he first ran for president. Did you know that? I think it's actually good for the country for the parties to switch every now and again, as it really should be more about the policies rather than the parties. That's just my opinion though, don't shoot me over it! 🙂
 
that one chick said:
Honestly, I'm not a part of this thread to debate about Trump, as you clearly so badly want to. Nothing against you but not everything is about him and left vs right. I'm literally only here to pay my respects to a man who shouldn't have been killed over his beliefs, regardless of what that may be.

If we condone political violence and laugh or celebrate the death of a whole life over opinions, then we're no better than savages. We will be the downfall of our own country through political division, especially if we let this situation escalate more and it becomes an all-out war between both parties.

Also, you seem to have a misunderstanding about me. I don't represent any one political party. I have and will always vote for the one who I feel is the best for the country. For example, I voted for Obama when he first ran for president. Did you know that? I think it's actually good for the country for the parties to switch every now and again, as it really should be more about the policies rather than the parties. That's just my opinion though, don't shoot me over it! 🙂
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You're really wasting your time with that boy lol. This thread like you said is about paying respect for Charlie Kirk and his family.

And then he is here yappin about some bullsh!t that mostly ain't gotta do with Kirk. He doesn't even know who that man is and just watch some of the negative edited clips about Charlie kirk. At least give @BlackLivesMatter a thumbs up to make him feel better.

I think Trump living rent free on this foo's head

He wants his opinion more matters
 
SexyCheryl said:
You're the weird one pretending some bloke who guns was relevant here.
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The relevance is that someone was murdered because of their political opinions (or so it seems) which, regardless of any personal beliefs and regardless of which country they're from or whether they're well-known, is reprehensible.
 
that one chick said:
If we condone political violence and laugh or celebrate the death of a whole life over opinions, then we're no better than savages. We will be the downfall of our own country through political division, especially if we let this situation escalate more and it becomes an all-out war between both parties.
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My concern is that TOC this has escalated to the point we are nearing civil unrest and possibly much worse. What I don;t see is condemnation for both sides. So Trump thinks the attacks on the Pelosi's is justified because she is a nasty person, is an example of what needs to be toned down. Rhetoric is destroying this country. Charlie Kirk was not immune to that sort of rhetoric.
Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.


– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
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If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?


– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

TOC this is what we need less of. The political discourse and debate are fine but we don't need all the hatred and bigotry. If that gets toned down then the level of violence will go down.
 
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