Annoying Kick

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TheEridianNinja said:
At this point, something needs to happen. That's why. This started out as Seb kicking Astro for calling him a moron (or, more likely, these accusations) but come on, even you can admit something has to happen. I've mentioned the circumstantal evidence of JR being Lewis, and it's pretty clear more can be done to make an IP match and get a ban. Why hasn't this happened? I'd love to know.
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Yeah, there's been no direct evidence of him being lewis sent to any mod, his ass would have been gone in a heartbeat. And before the comments on "speech patterns" sadly that aint enough. ****, its blatantly obvious it's him, and as soon as substantial evidence is sent to NorCal or CM. he will be gone, until then... idfk what exactly can be done
 
I'm just wondering how they banned Lewis' previous accounts, like PrincessKimberly etc. If they can ban them, why can't they ban this one?
 
astroraiken said:
I'm just wondering how they banned Lewis' previous accounts, like PrincessKimberly etc. If they can ban them, why can't they ban this one?
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PrincessKimberly directly spoke about fiddling kids. Ie, those screenshots. JR, on the other hand, has been significantly more careful. My friends have been trying to get him to slip up to some varying degree of success. We know it's the same person, but we need proof.

What's annoying though is we KNOW NorCal KNOWS it's the same person, which begs the question why this ban can't take place. Sounds like Chatmaster put his foot down about something...
 
Soapie said:
Due to lack of evidence
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Well yeah, that's the "Corporate Wall" reason. But ***** had no problem banning without evidence (Before the Great Mass-Ban of 2022), and IIRC the previous admin didn't either (Can't ever remember if it's RockstarSingerFan or Rocksingerfan or idfk). Something changed.
 
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Well yeah, that's the "Corporate Wall" reason. But ***** had no problem banning without evidence (Before the Great Mass-Ban of 2022), and IIRC the previous admin didn't either (Can't ever remember if it's RockstarSingerFan or Rocksingerfan or idfk). Something changed.
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There's a reason those 2 ain't admin anymore. That's all I'll say on that
 
I want to also say once again that I mean no disrespect to NorCal... but **** man something's gotta be done.
 
I may only be 17, and in my 17 years of life I'm sure I've not experienced half of what you have. NCMEC and the Cyber Tipline has been my go-to for years because they actually attempt to contact the website owners to gather substantial evidence before reporting to authorities in the jurisdiction of the site or predator.
I respect you Universal, but "Mods/Admins aren't the only ones that can report to law enforcement" is kinda insane for you to say. As ********, it's our responsibility to keep ourselves safe? Instead of, what, the mods and admins that volunteer? I get we have to have some sense of responsibility because it's the internet and anyone can be anyone, but when half of a chat has reasonable suspicion that someone is a pedophile the site admins and moderators (most of which agree they're a pedophile, btw) it still isn't the moderators/admins responsibility to do something?
I've had a really crappy day, so maybe I'm just taking it out on you, and I apologize, but for the love of God it's asinine to say what you just said. Astro had what is clearly a traumatizing experience and y'all are just passing the blame to us? And then trying to get the thread closed before the admin has commented when a reasonable question to him has been asked? Cmon man, I've known you as better than this.

That's it, I've said my peace, I'm going to log off before I say something that'll get me banned off forums.
 
TheEridianNinja said:
I may only be 17, and in my 17 years of life I'm sure I've not experienced half of what you have. NCMEC and the Cyber Tipline has been my go-to for years because they actually attempt to contact the website owners to gather substantial evidence before reporting to authorities in the jurisdiction of the site or predator.
I respect you Universal, but "Mods/Admins aren't the only ones that can report to law enforcement" is kinda insane for you to say. As ********, it's our responsibility to keep ourselves safe? Instead of, what, the mods and admins that volunteer? I get we have to have some sense of responsibility because it's the internet and anyone can be anyone, but when half of a chat has reasonable suspicion that someone is a pedophile the site admins and moderators (most of which agree they're a pedophile, btw) it still isn't the moderators/admins responsibility to do something?
I've had a really crappy day, so maybe I'm just taking it out on you, and I apologize, but for the love of God it's asinine to say what you just said. Astro had what is clearly a traumatizing experience and y'all are just passing the blame to us? And then trying to get the thread closed before the admin has commented when a reasonable question to him has been asked? Cmon man, I've known you as better than this.

That's it, I've said my peace, I'm going to log off before I say something that'll get me banned off forums.
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That's not at all what he said. He said users also are able to make reports to law enforcement. He didn't say it wasn't staff responsibility - and if their staff had evidence that this user is a pedophile then they could make a report. All Baby Universal said was that users, too, can make reports to law enforcement.
 
Radiation said:
That's not at all what he said. He said users also are able to make reports to law enforcement. He didn't say it wasn't staff responsibility - and if their staff had evidence that this user is a pedophile then they could make a report. All Baby Universal said was that users, too, can make reports to law enforcement.
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Then I apologize for my rant. It just really felt like a brush-off.
 
Radiation said:
That's not at all what he said. He said users also are able to make reports to law enforcement. He didn't say it wasn't staff responsibility - and if their staff had evidence that this user is a pedophile then they could make a report. All Baby Universal said was that users, too, can make reports to law enforcement.
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That is pretty much the sum of it. We may be mods and admins, but we are also human just like ********. It is unrealistic to put mods and admin on a pedestal above ********. We all have the tools to make this place and the world in general a happier and safer place. We merely volunteer our time as mods and admins to work with you, the chatter, to do what is the right thing.
 
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