Censored multiple times tonight. None justified.

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I was censored several times tonight. The first may have been due to a claim that I was spamming. I was not. I was not repeating the same thing over and over during a short amount of time. Though I was using repetition, I was using over 20 different statements and questions. That is not spamming.

The second had to do with the fact that I was discussing a serious subject, the subject of abortion. I was describing what happens in an abortion with someone who was arguing for the freedom to do such a heinous and repulsive act. I simply was saying that abortion is the butchering of the unborn. That simple language (and the truth) got me censored for 30 minutes. So people are free to commit such a repulsive act, but people are not free to describe what that repulsive act is. Astonishing!

The third had to do with another subject, the consequences of transgender surgeries on young people. My chatroom opponent on this topic tried to make the point that transgender surgeries somehow kept young people from killing themselves. I counter-argued that the adults who mislead young people to consent to that tragic operation or operations were to blame for young people wanting to kill themselves. That was my counter-argument. That got both me and my opponent censored. I was automatically censored for 5 minutes. The moderator stated she was just following the rules. So the rules prevent people like me from exposing the truth that might save people from suicide? Really? Does that really make much sense?
 
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I was censored several times tonight. The first may have been due to a claim that I was spamming. I was not. I was not repeating the same thing over and over during a short amount of time. Though I was using repetition, I was using over 20 different statements and questions. That is not spamming.

The second had to do with the fact that I was discussing a serious subject, the subject of abortion. I was describing what happens in an abortion with someone who was arguing for the freedom to do such a heinous and repulsive act. I simply was saying that abortion is the butchering of the unborn. That simple language (and the truth) got me censored for 30 minutes. So people are free to commit such a repulsive act, but people are not free to describe what that repulsive act is. Astonishing!

The third had to do with another subject, the consequences of transgender surgeries on young people. My chatroom opponent on this topic tried to make the point that transgender surgeries somehow kept young people from killing themselves. I counter-argued that the adults who mislead young people to consent to that tragic operation or operations were to blame for young people wanting to kill themselves. That was my counter-argument. That got both me and my opponent censored. I was automatically censored for 5 minutes. The moderator stated she was just following the rules. So the rules prevent people like me from exposing the truth that might save people from suicide? Really? Does that really make much sense?
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May I please ask your screen name you were and chat room you were in please and thank you? Where you on mobile or desktop? Have a wonderful night.
 
It was the general chat room. DESS may have been the moderator who likely censored me the 2nd time. And I can't find the name of the moderator who censored me the third time...she's disappeared. I think she was about 46 years old, according to her profile, and her username started with an "A" and had several syllables. Sorry for not remembering her username.

So...how was I entirely wrong on both points? What were you referring to specifically? You said both points...seems like that could refer to any number of things I said, which was more than two. I'm a bit confused by what you meant.
 
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It was the general chat room. DESS may have been the moderator who likely censored me the 2nd time. And I can't find the name of the moderator who censored me the third time...she's disappeared. I think she was about 46 years old, according to her profile, and her username started with an "A" and had several syllables. Sorry for not remembering her username.

So...how was I entirely wrong on both points? What were you referring to specifically? You said both points...seems like that could refer to any number of things I said, which was more than two. I'm a bit confused by what you meant.
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If it was in the general chat room. Please wait until @Samwise the admin there returns. And or Dess the mod can help you. He will be glady to look into this for you. Thank you! Take care! Be well!
 
non-Bidenary said:
It was the general chat room. DESS may have been the moderator who likely censored me the 2nd time. And I can't find the name of the moderator who censored me the third time...she's disappeared. I think she was about 46 years old, according to her profile, and her username started with an "A" and had several syllables. Sorry for not remembering her username.

So...how was I entirely wrong on both points? What were you referring to specifically? You said both points...seems like that could refer to any number of things I said, which was more than two. I'm a bit confused by what you meant.
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If you have a problem with a mod. Then please click on @Samwise name here<
You could send him a private message too. Just helping you too. While you wait patiently.
 
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So...how was I entirely wrong on both points? What were you referring to specifically? You said both points...seems like that could refer to any number of things I said, which was more than two. I'm a bit confused by what you meant.
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I probably shouldn't have brought that up here, if you'd like to continue though you can make a thread in Debate Forum and tag me.

Princessa tagged the admin and he will respond as soon as he's available to.
 
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I probably shouldn't have brought that up here, if you'd like to continue though you can make a thread in Debate Forum and tag me.

Princessa tagged the admin and he will respond as soon as he's available to.
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Thank you kindly.
 
Just want to make a few clarifications about my first message to you here at this forum...and a side note.

When I mentioned that I had talked about the butchering of the unborn, I believe the moderator's reason for my being censored was that I kept mentioning how the unborn were being butchered. But in a debate, it is often necessary to repeat key points.

Another clarification....I don't remember the exact point of what my opponent was saying about young trans people killing themselves, but my opponent did bring that up (first) and so my response, which mentioned that many young trans people were killing themselves, was simply what it was. A direct response. And it was our interchange, both of us mentioning that unfortunate reality, that got us banned. (I was banned for 5 minutes.)

By the way, I can deal with mistakes made by others and by myself. I can deal with being mistakenly censored and being allowed to come back after a short amount of time. But my problem is with the rules that hinder people from mentioning truths that could prevent tragedies, such as abortion and people committing suicide. That's the problem that I have.

Anyway, thank you for your time.
 
non-Bidenary said:
I was censored several times tonight. The first may have been due to a claim that I was spamming. I was not. I was not repeating the same thing over and over during a short amount of time. Though I was using repetition, I was using over 20 different statements and questions. That is not spamming.

The second had to do with the fact that I was discussing a serious subject, the subject of abortion. I was describing what happens in an abortion with someone who was arguing for the freedom to do such a heinous and repulsive act. I simply was saying that abortion is the butchering of the unborn. That simple language (and the truth) got me censored for 30 minutes. So people are free to commit such a repulsive act, but people are not free to describe what that repulsive act is. Astonishing!

The third had to do with another subject, the consequences of transgender surgeries on young people. My chatroom opponent on this topic tried to make the point that transgender surgeries somehow kept young people from killing themselves. I counter-argued that the adults who mislead young people to consent to that tragic operation or operations were to blame for young people wanting to kill themselves. That was my counter-argument. That got both me and my opponent censored. I was automatically censored for 5 minutes. The moderator stated she was just following the rules. So the rules prevent people like me from exposing the truth that might save people from suicide? Really? Does that really make much sense?
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The General Chat rules say that we don't allow suicide chat (among a few other things.) I think most rooms on site don't allow that topic. The room rules can be read here: https://forum.chat-avenue.com/threads/general-chat-room-rules.938553/

Describing in detail what happens in abortion? Most likely deemed to "tasteless" or inappropriate or too explicit for the room. We have users as young as 13 - so if you want o discuss that in General Chat using PM, or creating a side room is best. If you do it in main discussion should be PG13.

As you noted and Radiation suggested- you could make a debate topic in that forum also.

@Ruined @Amandalorian
 
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