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What is the point of having kick and ban forum to address Mod complaints when:
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The administrators can apparently "choose" to have these complaints sent through PM and not be addressed through the KB forum.

The administrators can apparently "choose" wether to respond to the PM?

This is effectively giving administrators the "right" to administer who they want to and who they dont and making the entire KB forum redundant.

This also effectively makes administration redundant because administration is not a choice its a standard.


This is not an admin complaint because i already know arga is a fucking dumbass, but Ill use this as an example of why this "pm mod complaints" is stupid.

A "mod complaint" sent to an administrator via PM. Said administrator didnt even read it.
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10 days later the same mod complaint is issued publically. This time the administrator says "why didnt you send me this 10 days ago"(pretending he actually cares and trying to look good on camera). But this is Proof he doesnt even read the PMs.
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Ps. Youre all mad that the person you hate is the most logical person here so stay MAD. OWNED!!!!
 
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so, room issue aside,

what you seem to be saying is all staff complaints should be posted/answered in open forums only? I can see where that would show a complaint is "read" however- how it's handled is up to the room admins, and that might be a delicate matter - its sounds unfair for mods to have that all heard on a public message board like some disciplinary proceeding in a real job.

Edit: Many users have complained over the years that - admin complaints going directly to CM without a reply on the message boards here- is frustrating. Ultimately though only the forums admin can say how these things are done.
 
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H.R. PufnStuf said:
what you seem to be saying is all staff complaints should be posted/answered in open forums only?
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No I'm saying mod complaints should be posted/answered in open forums. Like they always have and like the kb forum says under its title and header thats where mod complaints belong.



H.R. PufnStuf said:
- its sounds unfair for mods to have that all heard on a public message board like some disciplinary proceeding in a real job.
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If it's unfair then why have a kick ban forum at all?

Why would they not want to address things publicly, it is the most transparent thing they can do.

Unless of course, they don't like being transparent because a large majority of them abuse their authority.
H.R. PufnStuf said:
Edit: Many users have complained over the years that - admin complaints going directly to CM without a reply on the message boards here- is frustrating. Ultimately though only the forums admin can say how these things are done.
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We all know chatmaster only responds to staff, and is inaccessible to the majority of users. It's pretty much a given that he won't respond.

Admins should have to reply or at least acknowledge a complaint.

It's not about knowing what action is being taken by the admin it's about acknowledging that action is being taken.
 
Bread. said:
No I'm saying mod complaints should be posted/answered in open forums. Like they always have and like the kb forum says under its title and header thats where mod complaints belong.




If it's unfair then why have a kick ban forum at all?

Why would they not want to address things publicly, it is the most transparent thing they can do.

Unless of course, they don't like being transparent because a large majority of them abuse their authority.

We all know chatmaster only responds to staff, and is inaccessible to the majority of users. It's pretty much a given that he won't respond.

Admins should have to reply or at least acknowledge a complaint.

It's not about knowing what action is being taken by the admin it's about acknowledging that action is being taken.
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Yeah but you’re never ending, and a troll. You are currently threatening to dox a mod.
 
H.R. PufnStuf said:
so, room issue aside,

what you seem to be saying is all staff complaints should be posted/answered in open forums only? I can see where that would show a complaint is "read" however- how it's handled is up to the room admins, and that might be a delicate matter - its sounds unfair for mods to have that all heard on a public message board like some disciplinary proceeding in a real job.

Edit: Many users have complained over the years that - admin complaints going directly to CM without a reply on the message boards here- is frustrating. Ultimately though only the forums admin can say how these things are done.
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Well excuse moi Human Resources, I complaintaint to you before and you never ever reply me, I tell it to you that @Ken_Kaneki no love me no more - she call me something but I no remember what and you just never reply me, even when I send you many love hearts - am sow unhappy

Come on Human Resources, be resourceful.

Insert bullshiat post here

BAIL

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Bread. said:
If it's unfair then why have a kick ban forum at all?
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what seems unfair, is the idea that everything would in your suggestion- have to be dealt with in public forums. Most of the rooms, including the biggest rooms, already do it in public. There might be good reasons for an admin to want it sorted in PM>
Bread. said:
Admins should have to reply or at least acknowledge a complaint.
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That's a fair point.

Bread. said:
It's not about knowing what action is being taken by the admin it's about acknowledging that action is being taken.
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This also is a fair point.

Bread. said:
Why would they not want to address things publicly, it is the most transparent thing they can do.
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I checked- there are 7 rooms , mostly smaller that admins have chosen to have their rooms issues handled in PM only>
 
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To side with bread…. 🤮

Sounds has been posting my picture for a few years, lol. He was never even banned. @Chatmaster

So… uhh just save that proof, and eventually contact someone. They have websites that specialize in this type of thing. Sucks you have to spend money on such a stupid thing.
 
SouporMan said:
To side with bread…. 🤮

Sounds has been posting my picture for a few years, lol. He was never even banned. @Chatmaster

So… uhh just save that proof, and eventually contact someone. They have websites that specialize in this type of thing. Sucks you have to spend money on such a stupid thing.
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Gonna save this one. To avoid editing in real time.
 
H.R. PufnStuf said:
I checked- there are 7 rooms , mostly smaller that admins have chosen to have their rooms issues handled in PM only>
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And the problem is.. as seen above .. they don't "handle" the issue. Or they pick and choose who to "handle", much like the "selective" moderation from the mods in the chat.

The system is broken and that's why this place is full of abusive **** holes and trolls.


You might as well delete the kb forum and post or post an excerpt that reads "you can only post if you're a member of xyz room"

Let's not forget the admins are volunteering to do a job which is administering the chatroom. not volunteering to administer only certain members of the chatroom.
 
H.R. PufnStuf said:
what seems unfair, is the idea that everything would in your suggestion- have to be dealt with in public forums. There might be good reasons for an admin to want it sorted in PM>
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This is what it means to be transparent.

Ofc if privac/security comes into play then it can be handled in pm. But refusal to address things publicly is a lack of transparency. Most mod complaints aren't about sensitive information, they're about abuse of authority.
 
Bread. said:
This is what it means to be transparent.

Ofc if privac/security comes into play then it can be handled in pm. But refusal to address things publicly is a lack of transparency. Most mod complaints aren't about sensitive information, they're about abuse of authority.
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I believe that certain issues are sometimes better resolved through private messages (PM) to avoid involving others who may not wish to participate in a public discussion on the Forum. However, I’ve noticed that there’s no option to include all relevant parties in a single PM on the Forums or in private rooms. The only way to engage them is by tagging everyone involved in the main thread. When something is posted publicly, everyone can see it and decide whether to participate if they’re interested.

Some people take screenshots and share them with others, but regardless, the message often reaches the intended parties, either through those screenshots or the public thread. Personally, I find the most transparent approach is to address things directly in the main thread or Forum. However, I understand that not all situations can be handled this way, and sometimes it’s necessary to move the conversation to PMs.

It would be helpful if the system allowed for tagging everyone involved in a PM conversation, enabling all parties to resolve the situation privately. Additionally, it would be ideal if a copy of the conversation could be sent to the email addresses linked to their accounts, whether in the Forum or private rooms. In my view, this would be the most honest approach, but unfortunately, there’s currently no way to tag multiple people in a PM and ensure they receive a copy of the conversation via email.
 
Bread. said:
. But refusal to address things publicly is a lack of transparency.
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Im not referencing any room here- but the only person who can direct admins to do that is CM.

I do agree in part with your comment (and is just my personal opinion) , that forums staff could be proactive and leave threads until there is a resolution of sorts as you suggest. But the reality is only the boss admin can direct how admins handle their own rooms complaints. and until then every thread would just et derailed or become a troll fest if Room admins choose to not sort publicly.
 
As if this entire forums isn't a troll fest already.

Part of the reason these trolls exist is because of the injustice and lack of transparency behind cm not actively handing admins breaking rules.

Oh well let the troll fest continue .

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