HOMOPHOBIA

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🌛⭐️🧙🏻♀️Hannah Faye 🔮📚🕯🪄 said:
He doesn't want to discuss transphopobia because he's transphopobic but he's here to cry about homophobia which shows double standards and hypocrisy on his end.
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Well, I know that I, speaking for myself, do not separate trans people from the LGBT+ cause. For me, we are in the same family and in the same boat when it comes to hate speech (homophobia and transphobia).

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Seraphim said:
Well, I know that I, speaking for myself, do not separate trans people from the LGBT+ cause. For me, we are in the same family and in the same boat when it comes to hate speech (homophobia and transphobia).

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That’s fine if you don’t separate the T, however the topic specifically states Homophobia and gives an example of why the question was asked. Slapper Hannah with the 5 boyfriends and indefinite brain injury (my opinion!) hates gay people and black people. Until she mentions trans, I’d save your defence until then. That topic always comes around again on here and no side ever “wins”.

Also I don’t understand why asking for examples of homophobia but when you post them, they get removed. Don’t ask then?? (This part not aimed at seraphim)
 
-Luka said:
Until she mentions trans, I’d save your defence until then.
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Because this is called sociocultural repertoire, which is when you can combine several subjects into one to create a richer narrative, using historical facts and current events. Because for me, this makes the debate richer.
But if you want to limit the subject to homophobia only, that's fine. Sorry, I didn't mean to deviate from the topic.
 
...im just thinking out loud here, but, when that original example came up, which by now im sure we all know the full context of, I cant help but think that maybe only that certain part was quoted intentionally, because until I saw the whole thing, that little snippet absolutely could have just been a silly lil comment.

But... as a whole, shows a very different message... why not just quote all of it?

Now again, thinking out loud, but maybe the fact it was homophobic was known and understood, but by carefully only picking a certain part, made it seem less so, as to be able to act oblivious to it, hoping no one was sad enough to go looking for where it came from.


Edit: to add on, immediately after the full context was shown... then that example just, wasn't important, as its not about a certain person, just a definition
 
thinking out loud is not the accepted term....
Soapie said:
...im just thinking out loud here, but, when that original example came up, which by now im sure we all know the full context of, I cant help but think that maybe only that certain part was quoted intentionally, because until I saw the whole thing, that little snippet absolutely could have just been a silly lil comment.

But... as a whole, shows a very different message... why not just quote all of it?

Now again, thinking out loud, but maybe the fact it was homophobic was known and understood, but by carefully only picking a certain part, made it seem less so, as to be able to act oblivious to it, hoping no one was sad enough to go looking for where it came from.


Edit: to add on, immediately after the full context was shown... then that example just, wasn't important, as its not about a certain person, just a definition
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H.R. PufnStuf said:
Ive created this thread, because Ive seen many people here (and in rl) claim something is "homophobic" so the question I raise is : what is it, what are the limits? Is the term just a way to shut down other people's opinion's that others may find offensive? Or is homophobia such an issue that strong vigilence is needed ?

What is a definition that we can all agree on?

(this thread is not to bash anyone, or directly attack LBGT et all) or any user- it's intended to define the term and discuss)


This is a speak your mind forum- so do it! (but be respectful.)

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Inkandtatts said:
That is not off topic since it relates to the original topic, ie. homophobia. He clearly said "The(re) is no discussion, it's already defined regardless of what you think".
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Inkandtatts said:
You should probably ask yourself why you create a thread headed with "speak your mind forum" then use the powers you have here to remove comments that you don't agree with - and question whether doing that is has some bias behind it, in the same way as someone engaging in a discussion about racism might have been silenced in the middle of the last century.
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You have a good point here.
There is no constructive dialogue when it is manipulated.
 
Inkandtatts said:
The dictionary defines it clear enough and as you've reminded me many times you're of an age where you know what a dictionary is. What you really mean is that you're not quite sure if specific things are homophobic. If I've misunderstood then please feel free to correct me but, at the same time, could you also confirm whether you'd need to ask "What is a definition of racism that we can all agree on?"
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I stated in OP the question. I was looking for a definition we could all agree on. This thread- doesn't involve race.

You have misunderstood, specific examples wasnt the intent of this thread however, if people want to discuss that, fine.

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Is it that you genuinely don't have an understanding of a well-defined concept or is it because you don't agree with that definition?
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Again incorrect. Again clearly stated in the OP, I asked what a definition everyone agrees on. Im going to compile a list. One defintion included "anything that's derogatory" <------👀

As a user, I also want to know what the definition is, not a grab bag of definitions from all over " goo gle"


Inkandtatts said:
I'm going to tag the other 3 UMs in this post and ask that they monitor the moderation actions taken on this thread,
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This thread, is my thread, and the topic is clearly spelled out. Its also in the General Forum. Feel free to have anyone you want delete Hanna's post on her page. I declined because in my opinion, it's simply her opinion.

Just because you or others don't like a user, or because a history of chat dramas, does'nt mean an objective onlooker would agree they are not entitled to their opinions.

Its only relevant as Its a timely example - there are a lot of people who feel anything they say that , in one way or another, that is deemed"derogatory" to LGBTQ will have them unfairly labelled, attacked and such.

In fact, Im looking at a post by you, where you suggested to all UMS a definition of Homophobia here would be useful. This thread, is my contribution to your suggestion.

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