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Simply Karina

Simply Karina

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So, I was recently banned over false accusation in Girls Chat. The ban was lifted and I entered the room. After saying literally nothing to anyone or main, Cuddles room muted me and then kicked me for the same false accusations. Just wondering what's going on with that as the ban was lifted/over.
 
Well, as none of the accusations were false, and i didn't list the same reasons as the ban, or the fact that you are still actually currently banned, and as you were muted, after being kicked, that just asks more important questions than the ones you are asking, which have been answered. No need going over yet another thread for the same user/issue.
 
That is BS she had a two week ban which ran out last night. When she entered that room she was free to do so. She was rebanned some 20 minutes later why I don't know.

Coming back into a room after your ban has expired is not evading the ban.
Harrassment/disruption is impossible since she was in the room for less than 30 seconds when muted and then kicked out.
Multi account seems based on rumor alone.
 
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-KandyKarina- said:
So, I was recently banned over false accusation in Girls Chat. The ban was lifted and I entered the room. After saying literally nothing to anyone or main, Cuddles room muted me and then kicked me for the same false accusations. Just wondering what's going on with that as the ban was lifted/over.
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As far as I am aware,most bans only last 7 days and they are automatically lifted, I believe that the offences were serious enough ro reapply the ban.

This is my descision on this matter and I stick by it.

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Enchantress
 
Everything has been a rumor or proven false. On the topic of "the kick came first", that is just yet another inaccurate statement. The room mute appeared a good 2 minutes before the kick.
 
Nope I have something to say before I close it.

I've bitten my tongue on this one for long enough. Someone explain to me what is going on here because from my point of view it's not Karina that is at fault. This whole thing is a farce.

Let's add a bit of history to this whole mess shall we...
It starts with the complaint about the girls chat mod talking about fucking dogs that ultimately got her removed. I'm sure you remember that. Nobody seems to be worried by that though in fact the GC cliche want to gang up on the person they believe got her removed.

Their plan was in several parts, part one was to spread rumors about Karina including her having multiple accounts, part two was for them to create other accounts in chat to harrass Karina in the hopes she would snap so they could screenshot it and she'd be gone, Part 3 was to edit some existing screenshots.

Maks (we all know who he is) was approached by Mori & ClaudiaTS (User & member of the mod cliche) to help with parts 2 and 3. It seems he agreed to help because Cuddles a mod he hates had been demodded and he was also told Karina, HillbillyAlien (also someone he hates), BrattyTinkerbell, Hanna, etc were all the same person. He admits to editing some screenshots and passing them on to ClaudiaTS who was supposed to send them to Enchantress, at least one of these screenshots made it onto the forum as 'fact'. https://forum.chat-avenue.com/forum/...etc#post917883

Screenshots are below.

What also made it to the forum was Enchantress (GC admin) posting what she believes to be Karinas IP in public which as you know is completely against the rules.
We also have an admin or possibly ex admin sharing screenshots of admin only information with non mods again totally against the rules, this also made it to the main forum.
Then alongside all this mess we have an alleged deal between the GC admin/mods and another site that several GC members now use. This deal seems to be the recruiter from the other site is allowed to stay in GC and not be harassed by the mods. In exchange for this they provide us with information like ******** emails and IPs from the other site. They also don't want Karina to have a mod spot because she is aware of the deal and won't turn a blind eye to it ------ ***I haven't got to the bottom of this whole mess yet I'm still working on it.

It seems between all of them their plan worked, Karina got banned.

The reason for the original ban....
https://imgur.com/a/poXC2p5
Wouldn't you be complaining non stop if all that was happening to you and the admin is telling you it's resolved clearly it wasn't? Surely it's Enchantress' job to look into these things not ban the victim?

The screenshots......
I'm sorry these are jumbled.
>> Lovely little chat with Maks https://imgur.com/a/Sx8znKi

>> Links the conversation with Maks.
https://imgur.com/a/IwEwULd
Image 1- Maks demonstrating how he'd alter images.
Image 4 - Mori backing up the fact that even fake screenshots of Karina would be okay because nobody checks them.
Image 5 - Mori claiming that Enchantress would accept the fake screenshots
Image 6&7 - Faked image to match the real forum image.

>>More from Maks
https://imgur.com/a/QkUW3Om
Image 1 - Mori trying to cause trouble.
Image 2 onwards - Claudia spreading lies and discussing the plans mentioned above with Maks.
Also mentioning her next mod targets and suggesting some mods (Blue in particular had agreed to look away if she saw them attacking Karina).
Claudia Expresses her desire to kill "this guy if he lived closer", This guy would be Karina.

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Images 1&2 - This is MiamiVice they are from the site that gives the GC mods emails, IPs etc..
https://imgur.com/a/xiQVidk
as I said i'm still looking into this

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I honestly can't be 100% sure that Karina has never used other names but with all the fake screenshots and rumors flying around I'm choosing to give her the benefit of the doubt until I have evidence from a solid reliable source.
What I can tell you is the accounts shown on the AE detector screenshot do not appear to be listed anywhere on C/A and I cannot find a single instance where any of the accounts they claim to be Karina have shared an IP here in the forum.
I honestly couldn't tell you if the alleged chat history screenshot they have is faked or even if it came from this site.

Your decisions are based on lies, rumors and faked images. This is ridiculous.
 
The only thing I'd like to add as it shows more history of the nasty, lying, and abusive clique that has been in Girls Chat killing it for years, is that this problem with me started months ago when I was able to piece together the Flame, Enchantress, and Cuddles (I'll admit he is an assumption because he is Flames right hand) were keeping Seachelle alive and well in Girls Chat. Early 2019 I busted her as well, almost became a moderator under Flame Songs rule. It seems these select few have always had their interests in other sites. I can provide screenshots of all this as well id needed. My point is, this is history repeating itself with this bunch. The abuse has been out of control, I stood up for this site and it's ********.
 
anyone advertising, or attempting to advertise for other sites are gone instantly,and anyone that uses them is watched closely, i find it hard to believe anyone would ever make deals with anyone to let them stay when its simple enough to keep them gone they are 100% not tolerated and i couldn't believe anyone else would tolerate them either, as if one person wasn't kicking them, other people would be anyway. But if we just wanna throw around random comments, Karina was friends with 5-6 users from 2 other chat-sites, but weirdly, when brought to their attention, was defriended, and also kicking them. Which i am sure is the same case all around.

And secondly, no one listens or cares what maks has to say, as his story changes depending on who he is talking to, or about, or what he wants, preemptively threatening to edit things, or claim things were edited, or badly editing things kinda ruins his whole plan on every occasion, or claiming things were him, after a completely unrelated fact, Same with anything that comes from people we know talk to him, its unreliable and out of context at best, and edited in chat or photoshopped at worst. No one is going to listen to someone that has evaded kicks and bans and has flooded for close to a year, he is just a waste of space flailing around in the background who is sometimes on the same track as what is going on but not relevant to anything.

The ease of editing literally anything on modern makes all of it a joke considering you don't even need to photoshop it, along with ease of evading and hiding multiple accounts to the point that a single source is not enough, nothing is ever gonna be based of single source single event images and thanks to modern everything is longer and harder than it needs to be,

This is something that shouldn't of been able to/allowed to go on the first time near the start of lock down, or creep up again, or ultimately AGAIN more recently, there have been things that have been requested multiple times that would of put an end to this a lot quicker and with no doubt that still havn't been implemented.

And constantly trying to break this down into a group vs group, instead of an issue vs solution does more harm than good without proposing any solutions atall, and ultimately means nothing, one person spreads one lot of things to people, other people could be doing the same, everything is easily faked,other people interfere to try getting what suits them and the cycle continues.

There is obviously a big disconnect between what people have been told by who, and what people actually know. Going off opinion or friendships or outside views doesn't really help without knowing everything or at least aspects of both sides, but ultimately there is a right and wrong and obscuring it in random drama just means this disruption continues.

Everyone acts like its this us vs them agenda and forgets about the importance that is the room,or that its just a matter of friendships, It's not so simple when the people are involved are or were your friends, or even someone you recommended for a position to start with, it's not easy when you learn about things that break or change that and a lot of time and effort goes into checking things or double checking, and from multiple sources, and i am sure everyone puts in that level of checking cos we've all been in chat long enough to know how things are. So it would be a mistake to think anything is just a spur of the moment decisions or actions taken easily.

The room is at its best when everything is running in sync like it has done and has been for the majority of time short of a few bumps at the start of modern after the closure of flash, these events have been good for no one. And involve a lot of people at a lot of levels and its not like everything can be disgusted openly as you yourself pointed out Clare, nor should it be if it involves things other users may not want people knowing, on both sides of this.
I don't think any of this, is what anyone would of wanted, but whatever happened happened, and it could not go ignored for longer, they weren't easy decisions, Enchantress has alot of information from alot of sources over a long length of time,and a decision was made, Do try to consider whatever you think about this, you may not know everything,

But solutions instead of arguments would be alot better than more fighting with biased opinions
 
Gets more popcorn.

Karina or whom ever you are. You have had accounts in the old version of chat both over and under aged all the same ip address more than once, This is evidenced,
One of the names has a dog related name.
You have had a long term relationship that ended with Mori. Who you displayed Screen shots of her under an account Mori knew was you. This caused Mori to loose her job as mod as should you.Revenge much?
Seachelle seems to be a fixed obsession with you, Linking me to her seems a desperate attempt at a smeer. I wonder what caused such venom. You repeatedly kicked a chatter on the basis of being a Minion" of hers. Saying it was her GF ari.This is laughable for many reasons.
The thing is at the end of all your accounts you have had I am left wondering if Karina is just another account you have used to hide the real you.
The thing is you were a good mod for some of the time,
I really do wish you sucess as the Ultra admin where you currently chat.

AS for the current reaplication of the ban I fully support enchantress in her reaplication of it.

Flame
 
Okay, so where were we? Cuddles threatens physical harm on people, threatens apparent hitmen, and tells users they need a bullet in the brain. However he's the level headed one? Nah. On that regard it's now proof Enchantress has been on contact with Maks throughout all this.

As far as The Clique and Seachelle go, here is proof beyond argument. This goes from the end of 2018 to early 2019 where Seachelle was in under a name. Almost became a moderator. What is also shown is Flame being a "seachelle expert" and almost feeling sorry for her, but it also shows she knew what a danger this person is to literally everyone. What is also see, since Flame wanted to bring Mori into all this, is Mori openly talking about what is dicussed in present time, the fact The Clique will fake screenshots. Later, a discussion with Enchantress where she was accused of being Seachelle by Flame and Cuddles back in Classic. Seems like this is a pattern by The Clique. Although at that time, Flame and Enchantress were dating (Enchantress underage), so I assume that was why Flame wanted Enchantress gone, though I don't know. Now while Mori NEVER tried to recruit for Seachelle, even Enchantress herself says Mori and an ex moderator would visit Seachelles site. As a staff member for this site, this should be your priority as it was and still is, not Seachelles sites and/or other competitors. These are just regarding The Clique and their involvement with Seachelle, a clear history of supporting other sites, their willingness to fabircate lies, and their willingness to accept fake "proof". https://imgur.com/a/h3sGFM0
 
Ah, one thing I forgot to add in all this, the most reason attempt of Seachelle being in Girls Chat, she brought a friend. This friend (unless banned now because I wouldn't know) was in Girls Chat as PrincessBratBree. So for the "We don't allow recruiters", seems they are there quite often.
 
So Mori & Claudia are banned to right?

I mean it's hardly fair if the now ex mod who chatted in PM about bestiality over many months is to be allowed in chat and treated as if nothing happened. Wouldn't even have been removed if CM hadn't seen the reported forum thread because it's apparently not an issue. In fact you seem mighty p'd off that she was unmodded. She did it to herself. She chose to discuss disgusting illegal things nobody forced her too.

Then the cliche friend who has similar PMs and fakes evidence to get people they dislike removed is also allowed to stay in chat.

But the person you think may have multiple accounts but you don't really have proof that they do is banned.
 
- Clare - said:
So Mori & Claudia are banned to right?

I mean it's hardly fair if the now ex mod who chatted in PM about bestiality over many months is to be allowed in chat and treated as if nothing happened. Wouldn't even have been removed if CM hadn't seen the reported forum thread because it's apparently not an issue. In fact you seem mighty p'd off that she was unmodded. She did it to herself. She chose to discuss disgusting illegal things nobody forced her too.

Then the cliche friend who has similar PMs and fakes evidence to get people they dislike removed is also allowed to stay in chat.

But the person you think may have multiple accounts but you don't really have proof that they do is banned.
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To answer your question "Yes"
 
I'll say this one thing, it's really sad to see The Clique sacrifice their friends that even helped perpetuate some of the lies against me. I can say this for a fact, Mori was 100% bullied into every situation The Clique put her into. It's pretty disgusting their horrible agenda to support banned users and other sites mean more to them than friends. At the end of the day we are all humans, yet this Clique seems to do anything and everything they can to bring down anyone around them.
 
-KandyKarina- said:
I'll say this one thing, it's really sad to see The Clique sacrifice their friends that even helped perpetuate some of the lies against me. I can say this for a fact, Mori was 100% bullied into every situation The Clique put her into. It's pretty disgusting their horrible agenda to support banned users and other sites mean more to them than friends. At the end of the day we are all humans, yet this Clique seems to do anything and everything they can to bring down anyone around them.
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This seems to be 100% exactly what you have done and to multiple people, and the main point is still being missed, we are 2 mods down and had to replace you and her and all of this on the build up to the busiest time of year. all because of you, And there are other people you lashed out at and attacked when you didn't get your way, so you don't get to flip your own actions around and say it is what other people were doing.

You would of been gone a lot sooner if what you were saying is true, because other names would of just been put out there to "achieve a goal" that weren't brought up to save them from anymore trauma than they had already been subjected to.

You try to play innocent whilst at the same time betraying all the people that once called you a friend, or more, or trusted you, then try to use them once more as if it wasn't you that was doing it to them. And it isn't fooling anyone. People have been through enough of it, and don't need dragged through anymore for anyone's needs.

This ends here, enough damage has been done and this will effect some people a lot more than some of you realise but don't care about outside of how it benefits you/them directly. What was allowed to go on, was unacceptable, and went on longer than it should in the hope it would avoid hurt, and drama and hope for a less disruptive resolution, All you've achieved is to damage the one person you should of cared about the most, and you arn't that oblivious to know how they are going to be, and if nothing else comes out of this on top of your ban, i hope you realise the pain and upset you have caused to the people you tried to use along the way.

When me, of all people, has stayed quiet on a situation cos the most direct method would cause stress for people that didn't deserve it or had already been through enough you know something very wrong has happened, But even now, i won't name names, They don't need the drama or the stress, and you can no longer cause anyone any more.anyway.
That is for you to live with.

But, someone did pose solutions not opinions or attacks or biased arguments, at least something constructive happened, a good lesson going forward.
 
Cuddles- said:
This seems to be 100% exactly what you have done and to multiple people, and the main point is still being missed, we are 2 mods down and had to replace you and her and all of this on the build up to the busiest time of year. all because of you, And there are other people you lashed out at and attacked when you didn't get your way, so you don't get to flip your own actions around and say it is what other people were doing.

You would of been gone a lot sooner if what you were saying is true, because other names would of just been put out there to "achieve a goal" that weren't brought up to save them from anymore trauma than they had already been subjected to.

You try to play innocent whilst at the same time betraying all the people that once called you a friend, or more, or trusted you, then try to use them once more as if it wasn't you that was doing it to them. And it isn't fooling anyone. People have been through enough of it, and don't need dragged through anymore for anyone's needs.

This ends here, enough damage has been done and this will effect some people a lot more than some of you realise but don't care about outside of how it benefits you/them directly. What was allowed to go on, was unacceptable, and went on longer than it should in the hope it would avoid hurt, and drama and hope for a less disruptive resolution, All you've achieved is to damage the one person you should of cared about the most, and you arn't that oblivious to know how they are going to be, and if nothing else comes out of this on top of your ban, i hope you realise the pain and upset you have caused to the people you tried to use along the way.

When me, of all people, has stayed quiet on a situation cos the most direct method would cause stress for people that didn't deserve it or had already been through enough you know something very wrong has happened, But even now, i won't name names, They don't need the drama or the stress, and you can no longer cause anyone any more.anyway.
That is for you to live with.

But, someone did pose solutions not opinions or attacks or biased arguments, at least something constructive happened, a good lesson going forward.
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You have no stayed quiet, you and The Clique all participated in what is now proven to be falsified screenshots. Sorry Cudds, this isn't going away. As badly as you want to make your Clique out to be decent people, it's all in the spotlight now that you use and abuse pretty much anyone that has ever come into contact with any of you, which is horrible. The things you claim others to be are exactly what the three of you are, multiplied by 10 due to your enjoyment of the situations. Lastly, it was you and The Clique that ran to Finja, a banned person who work for another site and recruits in GC to bring Mori into all this. It was YOU who asked for a reason as to why Finja would stand up for Mori. But then again, it's on record you like to assault women, so what should we expect?
 
Yeah claimed i was banned in a messeage for kicking me but apparently Enchantress cant prove who is banned or isnt so he obviously lied about it plus bans are only for a limited time so he cant kick once a ban is lifted and he kicks me if i am silent on flase claims of trolling and disrupting chat after sitting there silently. He is by far the worse mod ever. I dont know how he keeps his position other then being friends with enchantress and flamesong
 
-KandyKarina- said:
You have no stayed quiet, you and The Clique all participated in what is now proven to be falsified screenshots. Sorry Cudds, this isn't going away. As badly as you want to make your Clique out to be decent people, it's all in the spotlight now that you use and abuse pretty much anyone that has ever come into contact with any of you, which is horrible. The things you claim others to be are exactly what the three of you are, multiplied by 10 due to your enjoyment of the situations. Lastly, it was you and The Clique that ran to Finja, a banned person who work for another site and recruits in GC to bring Mori into all this. It was YOU who asked for a reason as to why Finja would stand up for Mori. But then again, it's on record you like to assault women, so what should we expect?
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my clique, i would like to know who that is, considering the members seem to change between posts, and if i am or aren't a part of it. I am straight to the point and not flexible with right and wrong, people don't like that, even some of your own screenshots show that most wouldn't consider me a friend, maybe being part of a clique is a complement for a change, sometimes people agree, or have the same opinion, sometimes i chat or say hi or talk about food or music would hardly say that is a clique. i send updates and facts to people, or ask what they have seen or what has been going on in the room. if that is a clique then so be it,

Finja is gone, multiple times over, normally outed by the ones that you say protect her? or have been used against? the same with groups of people from other sites, the same way they will be again,and again. And now, we can see PM's that are reported, recruiters will have an even harder time.

Your making the mistake to resort to lies and attacks against me, something you have mostly not done in public or to my face. a bit of a mistake when i get rid of more recruiters and advertisers than most people combined.

And you would act like i would tolerate other people trying to cover for them, i would love to see the proceedings of these deals to know what was negotiated, and by who and as a consequence who was stabbing me in the back undoing my work. you keep saying im part of a clique, but also say i would throw friends under a bus, you do have one part right,if anyone was negotiating for people to recruit, the kind of sites people have advertised for in the past, i would throw them under the bus, friend or not.

And short of a few posts on the forums recently, when have i not been quiet? short of them posts, the last time i said anything was directly to you, was that things needed to stop, or be taken out of main and kept to PM if it was going to continue, you agreed, it stopped for a few months. My only comments since have been on the forum.

You may not of got the position you wanted that started all of this, but you most certainly have taken it out on everyone you once called a friend enough. But you are right, this isn't going away any time soon, everything will have to be checked, and rechecked anytime something new comes up, people will be talked to when they are upto it, and then everything will be checked all over again like it has been for months. But the disruption has stopped, and no one else will be dragged into this or hurt by it.

But again, if you can show me anyone negotiating anything that undoes the work that is put in, or puts people at risk then great, But historically people trying to bargain with banned users for their own benefit, have not had a good ending , i find it hard to believe anyone remaining would risk it, but if you can prove me wrong you would be doing the room one last favour.
 
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