One World Order

Thunderdome

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I saw an interesting video last night. A man working as a diplomat for decades talking about the United States using NATO for the expansion of US power. He stated and provided evidence why near every war since 1990 or so has been caused by the USA expansionism. He said the routine was the same. If the CIA could not covertly cause regime change then it would be caused overtly. We are now knocking on China's and Russia's door. He's warning there's no nuclear framework set since the USA walked away from it in 2004. He said although presidents change USA strategists don't. Our main weapons are SWIFT for economic pressure and the CIA for propaganda and regime change incitement. In the last 30 years alone the CIA has done over 100 regime change attempts. We overthrow. Get the country into NATO. Then if it serves our purpose put a base of ours there as well.

I'm not sure if I can share the link here, but if you want to see it I can pm it to you.

What is everyones thoughts if this was true? A unipolar world? Here's a definition I found for that and it really describes the USA foreign policy if you ask me:

In international relations, a unipolar world refers to a global power structure in which a single state possesses predominant military, economic, political, and ideological influence, enabling it to shape international outcomes with minimal resistance from other states.
 
If the shoe fits, wear it.

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As long as we stay on the course we are on, and do not deviate, I think things will smooth out.

Well we've been on this course a long time. Since the invention of radio and television really. Through multiple presidents. In 2012 the Smith-Mundt act was repealed so the CIA can also run propaganda campaigns in America now and not just the rest of the world. It's really interesting and kinda relieving to know there's a bigger plan in play here for world peace.
 
Well we've been on this course a long time. Since the invention of radio and television really. Through multiple presidents. In 2012 the Smith-Mundt act was repealed so the CIA can also run propaganda campaigns in America now and not just the rest of the world. It's really interesting and kinda relieving to know there's a bigger plan in play here for world peace.
Im not quite sure we are going about bringing peace to the world the right way. And I am a Trump supporter.
 
Im not quite sure we are going about bringing peace to the world the right way. And I am a Trump supporter.

It's okay you are a Trump supporter. My approval rating for him is about 60%. From Venezuela to Iran it has been all moves to weaken Russia and China. The idea behind a unipolar world is to control outcomes in favor of those in control. Remember the presidents will change. The strategies on foreign policy don't. America has already turned the world unipolar honestly.
 
I saw an interesting video last night. A man working as a diplomat for decades talking about the United States using NATO for the expansion of US power. He stated and provided evidence why near every war since 1990 or so has been caused by the USA expansionism. He said the routine was the same. If the CIA could not covertly cause regime change then it would be caused overtly. We are now knocking on China's and Russia's door. He's warning there's no nuclear framework set since the USA walked away from it in 2004. He said although presidents change USA strategists don't. Our main weapons are SWIFT for economic pressure and the CIA for propaganda and regime change incitement. In the last 30 years alone the CIA has done over 100 regime change attempts. We overthrow. Get the country into NATO. Then if it serves our purpose put a base of ours there as well.

I'm not sure if I can share the link here, but if you want to see it I can pm it to you.

What is everyones thoughts if this was true? A unipolar world? Here's a definition I found for that and it really describes the USA foreign policy if you ask me:

In international relations, a unipolar world refers to a global power structure in which a single state possesses predominant military, economic, political, and ideological influence, enabling it to shape international outcomes with minimal resistance from other states.
Okay so the historical events you describe are largely true, however:
1) The reasons/motives behind those actions described is purely speculative. The reasons could be as simple as greed, or switching of alliances due to shortsightedness.
2) The US dollar continues to lose value. Also, BRICS nations (and others) have been slowly weening themselves off of the USD.

If the plan described is true, I would say it is failing.

Yes, the USA is the most powerful and influential civilization in the history of planet earth, but I suspect our constant meddling in the affairs of others will accelerate our demise, not create a "One World Order" with Uncle Sam at the helm.

Not to mention China, who appears content to sit back and watch this all play out while they wait for the right moment to do ... whatever it is that Chinese communists like to do.
 
Many countries are distancing themselves from the USA - Australia as a nation has reached out to other parts of the world to ensure Australia is not held hostage when Trump has a tantrum which is fantastic for a nation - we are also begining to start our own sources from within which should have happened decades ago but it was cheaper to outsource. Finally we can start to rely on ourselves instead of begging other countries to assist in shortages.
 
Okay so the historical events you describe are largely true, however:
1) The reasons/motives behind those actions described is purely speculative. The reasons could be as simple as greed, or switching of alliances due to shortsightedness.
2) The US dollar continues to lose value. Also, BRICS nations (and others) have been slowly weening themselves off of the USD.

If the plan described is true, I would say it is failing.

Yes, the USA is the most powerful and influential civilization in the history of planet earth, but I suspect our constant meddling in the affairs of others will accelerate our demise, not create a "One World Order" with Uncle Sam at the helm.

Not to mention China, who appears content to sit back and watch this all play out while they wait for the right moment to do ... whatever it is that Chinese communists like to do.

This is not my guess at the future. Merely an observation of the past 36 years alone.

So the USD losing value means nothing. I wish people would understand that. Lol. You really need to look into SWIFT. It's the USA created banking system that allows countries to make payments to each other easier and cheaper. So USD value in that regard is irrelevant. So lets say a guy in the UK is selling a chair he made. He puts it online for 30 pounds. A guy in Mexico is looking for a chair and he likes that one. On his screen the amount is automatically converted into pesos. He pays the pesos which are converted to USD and sent to the UK and converted back into pounds and put into the sellers account. Now cut off a country from that system because they did something America didn't like. Payments are frozen. If your country is buying asphalt for new roads from a neighbor country well that's not gonna happen now. You hire an international construction company to come in and build a new hospital sorry. That will have to wait. If you're at war and want to buy ammo from an ally you gotta use gold and hope the payment arrives intact and on time or you run out of ammo. That's economic warfare.

Back when we joined the UN it was agreed no member would militarily occupy a country. So the USA decided to use different tactics to make other countries comply. Money, CIA operations to cause regime change, and later economics we the USA convinced the world to join SWIFT. However a bill was passed called the Smith-Mundt act to protect America itself from our own intelligence agencies affecting our elections and public opinion.

Well that was repealed in 2012. Along with that and Citizens United ruling in the mid-2000s America itself is now fully open to propaganda straight from the bureaucracy itself to election interference and the funds to push the most messaging. Just like in other countries. The rise of Antifa groups setting buildings on fires being funded by unknown sources. Coincidence? Maybe.

The fall of the Berlin wall came with an agreement that NATO would not push east beyond Germany. Through destabilizing countries by arming rebels that were pro American to using political promises we've broken that agreement more than 10 times. We have over 70 bases outside of America now. During Obamas presidency Joe Biden worked on Ukraine. We managed to make a regime change that was pro American which lead to the Ukraine war. When the Ukraine war began a top strategist for the USA said, "This is the best possible thing. We can drain Russia and not lose any American lives."

We've had the same foreign policy and strategists for decades now. Look how far our reach goes. We can strike anywhere in the world within minutes. Cause economies to collapse in weeks by cutting them off from SWIFT. We didn't get here by accident.

Yes BRICS is trying to contend... but is it too late? Ukraine is draining Russia. A BRICS member. We're hitting Iran. Another BRICS member. Iran is allegedly hitting members of the UAE who are fellow BRICS members, but who do you think they will side with after this? Trump mentioned a genocide happening in South Africa. Another BRICS member. I'm sure we're gonna "help" there at some point. Also while talking about moving troops out of Europe I believe it was Rubio who said they thought those forces could be used better elsewhere like Malaysia. So arming up near another BRICS member Indonesia.

The list of evidence goes on and on. Like I said i can send you the video link. The guy is warning all out war could break out.

All of this is a big maybe. I know this. Just worth talking about i think.
 
The general trend in Europe seems to be: get independent of the US, fast. So, not only do you have to contend with China, BRICS and whatever becomes of Russia. You'll have to contend with an increasingly self-confident and self-reliant Europe. It seems that many Trump supporters seem to think that Europe is nothing more than an open air museum. Well, it is that _and_ the third largest economic block on the planet.

Turns out, the US was much stronger, when it cared about having strong relationships with allies, rather than pissing off everyone. So, if the US strategy was indeed to be the ruler of a unipolar world, the current leadership is massively screwing that part up.
 
The general trend in Europe seems to be: get independent of the US, fast. So, not only do you have to contend with China, BRICS and whatever becomes of Russia. You'll have to contend with an increasingly self-confident and self-reliant Europe. It seems that many Trump supporters seem to think that Europe is nothing more than an open air museum. Well, it is that _and_ the third largest economic block on the planet.

Turns out, the US was much stronger, when it cared about having strong relationships with allies, rather than pissing off everyone. So, if the US strategy was indeed to be the ruler of a unipolar world, the current leadership is massively screwing that part up.

What countries caused the last 2 world wars? Maybe our alliance with Europe was never to contend with Russia and China? That was just the slogan or what it turned into? Lol. BRICS exists because of America using SWIFT for economic warfare as well.

Also America became the richest and strongest because after WW2 Europe was in ruins. Factories blown up. Decimated militaries and infrastructure. China wasn't apart of the world stage yet.

The problem is with how American politics works one can not simply sever ties. Even if they could the next administration could come back in and reestablish them. So how do you make sure they stay severed? You make those other countries hate you. Lol.

Btw most of the American people don't want a unipolar world. Look how much debt we've sunk into funding our military and intelligence agencies. Did you know if the debt was around 2 trillion or less we'd be spending a dollar for a gallon of gas? That's how it works. The more money we print the less valuable it becomes and the less we can buy. Our military budget has really sunk us.

On the flipside in a unipolar world a world war is pretty much a thing of the past. So it's good in that sense. Also an American lead unipolar world comes without the blood feuds and what not so it makes us more impartial. We only care about economics. How much our rich elites can benefit from exploiting other countries.
 
Maybe our alliance with Europe was never to contend with Russia and China? That was just the slogan or what it turned into? Lol. BRICS exists because of America using SWIFT for economic warfare as well.

I'm fairly confident, that for the first few decades it really was to keep the Soviet Union from spreading into western Europe and to keep a leash on the Germans. By the way, before you get the wrong impression, growing up in western Europe, i feel i've lived a life in relative freedom, peace and prosperity, because of that alliance. So trust me when i say, that i am grateful for that and i wish nothing than the best for the US. And it's exactly that sentiment, that makes me so sad about the direction it is currently going in.
 
I'm fairly confident, that for the first few decades it really was to keep the Soviet Union from spreading into western Europe and to keep a leash on the Germans. By the way, before you get the wrong impression, growing up in western Europe, i feel i've lived a life in relative freedom, peace and prosperity, because of that alliance. So trust me when i say, that i am grateful for that and i wish nothing than the best for the US. And it's exactly that sentiment, that makes me so sad about the direction it is currently going in.

Then you know about the post Berlin Wall agreement that NATO would not push east of Germany and has so many times since that they are literally knocking on Russia's door? There's substantial proof that the anti Russia doctrine originates from Britain. The issue is in order to create a unipolar world we've goaded Russia until they drew the line with Ukraine.

The best example i can think to describe this is the Cuban missile crisis in reverse. We overthrew the Ukrainian government while Obama was president to make Ukraine pro American and pro NATO and started arming them. Remember when Russia tried the same thing in Cuba and the US said if those missiles crossed the line it would be considered an act of war? We've literally done the same thing with Ukraine.

As a result Russia annexed Crimea. Remember they called him crazy for it? It was actually so they could maintain some control of that waterway between Crimea and Ukraine. Look at a map of where Russia first invaded and held territory in Ukraine. All around that warm water port and water way across from Crimea. The USA has been literally trying to cripple Russia economically for a long time. Controlling that water way would accomplish this.
 
The best example i can think to describe this is the Cuban missile crisis in reverse. We overthrew the Ukrainian government while Obama was president to make Ukraine pro American and pro NATO and started arming them. Remember when Russia tried the same thing in Cuba and the US said if those missiles crossed the line it would be considered an act of war? We've literally done the same thing with Ukraine.

The US overthrew the Ukrainian government? I think, the Ukranian people managed that all by themselves and with good cause. I too would be annoyed, if my sitting president was about to sell my country off to Russia.
 
The US overthrew the Ukrainian government? I think, the Ukranian people managed that all by themselves and with good cause. I too would be annoyed, if my sitting president was about to sell my country off to Russia.

Russia was buying Ukranian favor as so was America. Look into it. Biden worked on Ukraine as vice president. His son was appointed to an energy board there and was paid millions. Only thing is his son had never been in charge of anything energy related. It's all public information if you wish to research it.

The CIA has caused over 100 regime changes since 1990 through propaganda, campaign funding, and funding rebel forces. Ukraine was just the latest in a long line. All to promote American interests.

So far the plan is working and everyone seems to be none the wiser.

Best example I can give people is when the Ukraine war started a top US strategist said publicly, "This is the best case possible. Russia is going to get drained and we don't have to sacrifice American lives to do it."

I guess my thoughts are what does everyone think about a unipolar world lead by the US and the rich? Because that's what is happening.
 
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