Open Letter

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purplerose

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Dear Site Admin, Cm(s)

Why have you let this site fail and fall into such disrepair?


Posts/Threads- Posts/Threads are ghost edited and closed for no reason. Many times not even breaking any rules. People with no concern with the forums ask for threads to be closed mid discussion most times, and it's done.
Why are posts/threads being deleted or moved to mod forums? especially when its not needed, and then having them be labeled “sensitive mod material” when it was clearly part of the discussion and no sensitive data was posted in open forums.
And then on the far end, users cannot use certain email truncation's to sign up or even contact you to alert you to issues with the site. Many times with issues going on days before action is taken. The fun threads are killed within 3 posts but the seriously, potentially serious threat threads are left for days.

Staff- It seems to be true that in SOME rooms a user must have VIP in order to become moderator? Basically what you/ the room admin are promoting is Pay To Play. Which makes it far less fair and balanced. not only for the other mods that have to work in the same room. but for the users they feel they wont get a fair decision when rules are broken. fair and balanced SHOULD be 1 of the qualities of a moderator, not their ability to pay. This site is missing out on some great moderators simply because they haven't paid (or paid recently).
Why do you treat the staff as they are poop on the bottom of your shoe? And no i certainly dont mean open an AMA or answer every single “HEY” pm. BUT you certainly should be answering your admins and reading what they say, not only do some have their rooms pulse , but most have their moderators insights as well, and no one has a better understanding of each one's room ( and even forums) better than the room's moderators, and anyone that tells you different is lying. Why don't you trust your admins to make good decisions for the room/forums? If you cant let them do the volunteer job, why did you hire them? It reflects badly on you when an admin/room/forum mods have to say, nope i cant do it. If they are your staff they should be given access to the tools to do what they were put there to do. If they don't do it, remove them if you must, not punish the entire group. we've been through this before and we learned taking tools/options away only hurts this site, its users and its bottom line. And yes, it's hurting the bottom line, 15 forums users online at a time is borderline dead.
Why is it taking months to turn mods blue? If users cannot tell who's who in forums how are users supposed to take what a mod says seriously and get users to follow the rules. Why are mods modding the room before being turned blue in forums?
Again , on the far end here, a moderator and an admin admitted to running a script in forums this past weekend. Historically, they would have been removed and banned. You've removed and banned for posting a poem before, and script running is far far far worse.

Rules- Why is there suddenly an influx of new rules? There are rules and then there are CORE rules, have fun, don’t hack, no flashing pictures, C,F,N,R word isn't acceptable. Now other words are now added to that list. And it seems that other unknown;unnamed rules are being placed and enforced. Forum bans are inconsistent with the crime, as well as no warnings or use of the ban reason box. Lack of users kills a site but so does over moderation/rules. Why is common sense not used more often? Why is it not inferred it should be used 1st when making a moderation decision?

You and I(the cm name) have gotten along like oil and water and i won't be sorry for it nor will I expect it to change. C/A is no longer a priority to you,and we(i) get that. But if you want this site to survive until the end of the year you're going to have to listen to some of us and change some things on this site. Or you'll be left with the f%%k week bots and script kiddies, and will be more of a laughing stock than it already is.




i have copies(mainly stated because of point 1)
#FreeLuka
TL😀R then get out, doors <----------- i dont do it often anymore but when i do its f%%ked up and it needs a change.
 
70 some odd forums users a little while ago.

nearly 400 in general Chat 15 minutes ago. (which is more than double than what it was 3ish years ago)
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I totally agree with what purps say dd it is going downhill very slowly look at me asking to put a thread which should of been moved to adult section ignored if cm/admin sees that it will be questioned why was'nt it moved to adult forum.
 
If the purpose was to ask CM all those questions, it seems a PM would have sufficed 🤔 🤷🏻‍♂️

Anyway……at least in the Adult Chat rooms business is booming and we regularly have thousands of ******** there. As for the forums, on other sites the forums section is much less busy than the actual chat rooms, which makes sense. Yes, for those people who seem to live in the forums I’m sure more users here would be nice for them. But I can see where most people would want the real-time feed back of a chat room. Also, that’s where the ads are and the more eyes on the ads the better the revenue.

I’ve been on this site almost 10 years and there have always been dire predictions that 1. the site will be shut down by the police, FBI, etc. 2. the site is dying because of (pick your poison here: bots, lack of users, too many rules, not enough rules, etc). Yet the site continues to be very popular.
Is the site perfect? No. Can improvements be made? Sure. But I have a feeling this site will continue to thrive long after many of us are gone.
 
The fact that this website continues to find traffic at all is a miracle. The chat rooms themselves have been flooded with bots posting scripted messages (for years) that advertise sex alternatives, which means the owners have actively identified their demographic. This entire website is a relic of a lost age, and the niche it formerly filled (for normal people) is now overtaken by other community-specific message boards. The age of the chat room is long dead. Take note that almost everyone who has replied here is over age 30.

HR Puff is HR Puffing his chest out over the population of General Chat. I admire that a man takes pride in his "work," but that is undue pride and the population of the chat room has absolutely nothing to do with any of its moderators. It is due to the website's surprising longevity in an ever-declining market and some degree of search indexing advantage. There are essentially no competitors in this space. Beyond that, the majority of ******** now and in this website's heyday represent the very worst of society, but at least they populate a room for advertising revenue or—better yet—buy VIP! There is a reason that kicks last for two hours, and that is a conscious decision made by the powers that be. There were once actual bans levied by moderators, but as the age of the chat room died off, so too did that. A number is a number. Moderators fight a losing battle, because the business interest here is not skewed toward removing these people from the equation: they are the equation.

This forum is the last vestige of what the website once was, populated by varied vBulletin 3 nostalgics who keep getting older and older. This thread is about the forum.

Unpaid staff always need some other means of compensation, and here as well as elsewhere, that takes the form of social standing in a limited niche. Some would call that authority. That's how you get overmoderation: they've left their mark somewhere.

Just leave the forum be. If you want to leave a mark on this place, you can ban people who use scripts to flood the forum instead.

Orange for UM
 
There is not much left in chat avenue. I blame that in part on the loss of the game room. I have not seen 70 users in forums since way back when. The only time we have a ton of users is when we have one of those posts which often get edited and deleted to protect the guilty.
 
considering you replied seems you have thoughts as well. im sure he'd love to hear all of them in pm. ( he doesnt, he doesnt even read them, he just mass deletes)

thousands of ******** are not posting , or actively chatting. 400 ******** are not posting or actively chatting. ( granted some would be strictly in pm chatting) but if you went in and straight down the list you would find an uncountable amount of bots, advertising to draw users out of the chat rooms... and you wanna know what... they do. this site loses an immeasurable amount of users because of it. but if you want to believe they are all there because of the greatness of the chatroom and its staff... go be happy.


orange- it pays to be 1st result which is where a bit of the money goes. the rest is supposed to go to improvements but it does not, the excuse is its behind the scenes... ive seen behind the scenes... its not there.
 
when the guests out weigh the members by half. its in a load of trouble. you editing to prove your point, just disproved it.
Can you explain why you feel the site is in trouble if there are more guest accounts than members in forums? Couldn’t it be that most members would rather spend time in the actual chat rooms? Or maybe they choose not to register on the forums? Thanks.
 
70 some odd forums users a little while ago.

nearly 400 in general Chat 15 minutes ago. (which is more than double than what it was 3ish years ago)
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400 in General Chat? been a very long time since that time, and @purplerose said most of those are guest accounts, pedophiles, spammers with numerous accounts asking for kiddy porn, links to bots and sex rooms (not CA ones).

I have been in CA a very long time as well and during that time you can see the same preditors names on the list time and time again even after reporting with SS nothing is done, they continue to come in asking for sex with minors. Now the room seems to be flooded with "singlemumwithdau" "daustayingwithdad" "granddaddau" etc they are obvious as a nose on your face but do they get removed no - the reason being "no solid proof" with 99% of them asking openly in the room - looking for younger 12+ continously and ive flagged them until i have no flags left and still they are posting in the room with mods sitting in the room or or someone invisable kicking and still nothing is done.

I have been told several times in the room by the hired staff boss I am a troll and a bitter ex mod which is far from the truth, I want to come in and have fun not seen people like expoxy and numerous others who continues to spam/abuse the femals and harrass them to the point they leave, on a continual basis. Admin unbans then and they returns every single time abusing the females, with all kinds of degrogatory names and then moans when its given back to them. Bread is a prime example in girls/lesbian chat. Or the main chat several posters asking for kid porn or links to kid porn.

Squid a regular in General caught several in the space of a couple of days or regular ********, asking or talking about underage and what they would like to do to them and only one has been banned.

If this site cleaned itself up it would be an awesome place to come, relax, banter etc but the way things are with General Chat and the control freak at the helm its only going to get worse. I am sure this will be edited or delted or I will go on a forum mute for a week like last time posting a return post on bread for saying someone should be rid of him.
 
The website isn't in trouble numerically, it's just in trouble morally. 80% of the forum guest population is tracking spiders like purp said, but much of the chat room's user base (the 75 percent of X total number who are not PM spam bots) are actually people, they are just morally decrepit, and the website's moderation policies are designed to keep them around eg: no perm bans, eg: C/A-sponsored main chat sex bots.
 
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