Sexist draft

[! Burnt Pizza]

In the united states they make men sign up in case of a draft but not women. It implies women aren't fit to be in the military and men aren't fit to take care of the home. Who else thinks it's sexist and all Genders should have to register in case of a draft

 

[Deleted member 292068]

Piss poor troll thread and that's not why women aren't included in the draft.

 

[little cindy lou who]

Who else thinks all Genders should have to register in case of a draft

I'm For Women Being Drafted .. It"s Called Equality ... But The Republican Congress Does Not Support That ..

And The Republican Stacked Supreme Court Will Not Even Hear A Case Involving Women And The Draft .

So .. It's Political ... Like A Women's Right To Choose What She Can Do With her Own Body In Terms Of Human Reproduction

Republican Stacked Supreme Court And Hard Right Nazi Activist Republican State Legislatures Took That Right Away .

Yeah Lets Go Back To Our Slave Owning Apartheid Nazi Past

Women Back In The Kitchen.. African Americans To The Back Of The Bus ..And Gay Folks Back Into The Closet ....

Real Nice ... Make America Hate Again ... Hope The Evil Orange Clown Gets His Orange Jumpsuit .

 

[purplerose]

So you're saying that all men have to register that's not true.

this is false. at 18 men are required to register or face federal felony charges. those that do not. are called draft dodgers and not only get publicly harassed for lack of morals they face a slew of federal blocks and bans, like no federal student loans, no federal housing or loans and it could mean your social security would be at risk. only AFTER registering and being called can they be deemed ineligible for the draft. some of those reasons are mental or physical health, being an only MALE child, being an only child, or already committed to a different countries army due to duel citizenship.

you lost your post?! its ok i found it.

 

[Finn2.0]

Shut up, Corey

 

[! Burnt Pizza]

this is false. at 18 men are required to register or face federal felony charges. those that do not. are called draft dodgers and not only get publicly harassed for lack of morals they face a slew of federal blocks and bans, like no federal student loans, no federal housing or loans and it could mean your social security would be at risk. only AFTER registering and being called can they be deemed ineligible for the draft. some of those reasons are mental or physical health, being an only MALE child, being an only child, or already committed to a different countries army due to duel citizenship.

you lost your post?! its ok i found it.

I read only children still could be drafted to

 

[purplerose]

I read only children still could be drafted to

there are many reasons why they find a person eligible or ineligible. point is.. males starting at age 18 in America must sign up for the draft, for women it is still a choice. and signing up is step 1 of many. i should note the draft is only enacted in times of war and ONLY if the numbers of choice enrollees are low. last time i knew, the numbers of those that choose to enroll was healthy and enacting the draft is a far off dream.

 

[! Burnt Pizza]

there are many reasons why they find a person eligible or ineligible. point is.. males starting at age 18 in America must sign up for the draft, for women it is still a choice. and signing up is step 1 of many. i should note the draft is only enacted in times of war and ONLY if the numbers of choice enrollees are low. last time i knew, the numbers of those that choose to enroll was healthy and enacting the draft is a far off dream.

I know the draft hasn't been enacted since Vietnam but still sexist to threaten men for not registering and women don't have to. With how things are heading with Russia and China worrying about war with a major power is at a all time high recently

 

[-Luka]

I’d never even heard of this “draft” thing but makes sense - especially when purplerose stated about the sanctions they can face if they don’t such as government assistance. I do think the sanction of social security is a bit extreme, as there are many people who leech off the government in any country.

In saying that though, if it’s anything like the UK, you’re rewarded for your service with a box and a cardboard sign outside a shop entrance.

I feel this should be done here in the UK for the wannabe gangsters and the arseholes who want to cause misery- get that lot to fight on the frontline and we’ll see how hard they are.

 

[SerenityMoon]

Since 1980, men have been required to register for the Selective Service, in case the United States reinstates the draft. In 1981, the Supreme Court concluded that women could not register for the Selective Service, because they were not then eligible for military combat roles.

 

[purplerose]

I’d never even heard of this “draft” thing but makes sense - especially when purplerose stated about the sanctions they can face if they don’t such as government assistance. I do think the sanction of social security is a bit extreme, as there are many people who leech off the government in any country.

In saying that though, if it’s anything like the UK, you’re rewarded for your service with a box and a cardboard sign outside a shop entrance.

I feel this should be done here in the UK for the wannabe gangsters and the arseholes who want to cause misery- get that lot to fight on the frontline and we’ll see how hard they are.

the united states military conscription is a law that can be enacted by congress or by presidential decree. it is commonly known as the draft. males must register between the ages of 18 and 26. at 18 yrs 6 months you get bi yearly reminders to register. those males who want federal student loans, government housing or government backed loans will be denied if they dont have record of registration. it should be noted that all military service in the USA has been volunteer basis only since 1973.

social security is money taken from your pay that you pay into the federal system and are owed it at age of retirement. it is also the system that pays a stipend for disabled citizens in order for them to live. it is not a lot and in fact you cannot live on it by its self. however if you worked a federal government level job and never registered for the draft it is said the govt can withhold your social security. you can also face jail time. again however they hardly ever do that, simply because the draft isnt enforced currently.

many vets here do get the raw end of the deal the can sign up for veterans benefits but those programs keep getting cut and theres currently a lot of vietnam veterans that mistrust the govt because of their service. but others do well and use it for free housing, free food and free education. Many foster children who age out sign up for it because of the benifits.

to be completely robotic and uncaring... if woman would be drafted and KIA numbers were high... how would america produce any more eligible soldiers to enlist?? forcing your producers to go to battle might be fine in the short term but will leave you weak in the long term.

have some couth corey.

 

[little cindy lou who]

The Last Time The USA Had A Draft Was The Vietnam War .. AntiWar Protestors Evaded The Draft By Seeking Political Asylum In Canada

After The War Ended All The Draft Dodgers Were Granted Immunity And Allowed Back Into The USA Without Any Penalties

It Wasn't A Popular Thing Then Just As It Wouldn't Be Now .. And The Only Reason To Instate A Military Draft In A War

Is In Desperation And Fear Of Losing A War And Capitulating To An Occupying Enemy ... Vietnam Was A " Meat Grinder " For The

American Front Line Soldiers Fighting That War Most Of Whom Were Draftees That Could Not Get A College Deferment ..

The Working Class The Poor The High School Dropouts The Economically Disadvantaged Were The Ones Who Were Killed And Wounded

In An American War On An Asian Nation That Never Attacked The USA 10 Years Of Bloody Occupation

The Draft Will Never Be Reinstated So That Makes This Thread's Subject Matter Irrelevant ... But As A Matter Of American Equality ..

If They Ever Do Reinstate A Military Draft In The USA As An Act Of Survival In A War ... Then Yeah .. Women Are Eligible Too

 

[! Burnt Pizza]

the united states military conscription is a law that can be enacted by congress or by presidential decree. it is commonly known as the draft. males must register between the ages of 18 and 26. at 18 yrs 6 months you get bi yearly reminders to register. those males who want federal student loans, government housing or government backed loans will be denied if they dont have record of registration. it should be noted that all military service in the USA has been volunteer basis only since 1973.

social security is money taken from your pay that you pay into the federal system and are owed it at age of retirement. it is also the system that pays a stipend for disabled citizens in order for them to live. it is not a lot and in fact you cannot live on it by its self. however if you worked a federal government level job and never registered for the draft it is said the govt can withhold your social security. you can also face jail time. again however they hardly ever do that, simply because the draft isnt enforced currently.

many vets here do get the raw end of the deal the can sign up for veterans benefits but those programs keep getting cut and theres currently a lot of vietnam veterans that mistrust the govt because of their service. but others do well and use it for free housing, free food and free education. Many foster children who age out sign up for it because of the benifits.

to be completely robotic and uncaring... if woman would be drafted and KIA numbers were high... how would america produce any more eligible soldiers to enlist?? forcing your producers to go to battle might be fine in the short term but will leave you weak in the long term.

have some couth corey.

Women want equality that means equally registering Incase of a draft. some people want equal rights only when equality benefits then. As soon as it doesn't then they want to keep getting special treatment. The producers thing is not a good argument because wars aren't lasting lifetimes. WW2 and WW1 didn't even last 10 years.

 

[Deleted member 292068]

Women want equality that means equally registering Incase of a draft. some people want equal rights only when equality benefits then. As soon as it doesn't then they want to keep getting special treatment. The producers thing is not a good argument because wars aren't lasting lifetimes. WW2 and WW1 didn't even last 10 years.

No one wants a draft, you're making tge same argument that sexist men make when they beat the crap out of a woman because the woman slapped him on his shoulder and they should be treated equally. I don't think you know what equality means. Do you have this same argument for women to be allowed in the NFL?

 

[SerenityMoon]

The Last Time The USA Had A Draft Was The Vietnam War .. AntiWar Protestors Evaded The Draft By Seeking Political Asylum In Canada

After The War Ended All The Draft Dodgers Were Granted Immunity And Allowed Back Into The USA Without Any Penalties

It Wasn't A Popular Thing Then Just As It Wouldn't Be Now .. And The Only Reason To Instate A Military Draft In A War

Is In Desperation And Fear Of Losing A War And Capitulating To An Occupying Enemy ... Vietnam Was A " Meat Grinder " For The

American Front Line Soldiers Fighting That War Most Of Whom Were Draftees That Could Not Get A College Deferment ..

The Working Class The Poor The High School Dropouts The Economically Disadvantaged Were The Ones Who Were Killed And Wounded

In An American War On An Asian Nation That Never Attacked The USA 10 Years Of Bloody Occupation

The Draft Will Never Be Reinstated So That Makes This Thread's Subject Matter Irrelevant ... But As A Matter Of American Equality ..

If They Ever Do Reinstate A Military Draft In The USA As An Act Of Survival In A War ... Then Yeah .. Women Are Eligible Too

I'm sorry you are so uninformed.

The Draft Will Never Be Reinstated So That Makes This Thread's Subject Matter Irrelevant

You're speculating.

If They Ever Do Reinstate A Military Draft In The USA As An Act Of Survival In A War ... Then Yeah .. Women Are Eligible Too

With out changing the Law this is so wrong.

 

[little cindy lou who]

I'm sorry you are so uninformed.

You're speculating.

With out changing the Law this is so wrong.

How Am I Uniformed On The Draft And It's Prior History In Regards To The Vietnam War, In My Post ?

I'm All Ears Dear .. As I Do Respect Your View Opinion Or Version Of Facts On A Subject From Reading Some Of Your Prior Posts .

What I Stated As A Historical Outline Of The Effect The US Military Draft Had On American Society Is A Matter Of Historical Record

Not An "OP-ED" Piece .



Saying I'm Speculating About My Statement " The Draft Will Never Be Reinstated " Yeah That's An Easy " Speculation " Too .




And Laws Are Changed In A Democracy As It's Society Evolves ... Or Devolves As In Regards To " Roe vs Wade "

There's Historical Fact And There's Opinions On Historical Fact And It's Specific Effects,

 

[SerenityMoon]

Uninformed may have not been the best verbiage. How about Misinformed. It wasn't only the "poor" or under privileged that were drafted. Although they did make up the majority of those drafted, that was only because of how the Draft Bill was written.

In the event of a national emergency which required a draft, there is a Sequence of Events, the different Classifications which have been used in the past, Postponements, Deferments, and Exemptions, and the peacetime Medical Draft.

 

[little cindy lou who]

Uninformed may have not been the best verbiage. How about Misinformed. It wasn't only the "poor" or under privileged that were drafted. Although they did make up the majority of those drafted, that was only because of how the Draft Bill was written.

In the event of a national emergency which required a draft, there is a Sequence of Events, the different Classifications which have been used in the past, Postponements, Deferments, and Exemptions, and the peacetime Medical Draft.

Never Said "Only" The Poor And Thank You For Confirming What i Said " The Majority Of Those Drafted " ...

Now Who's "Rambling" ? .. THE DRAFT WAS UNFAIR AND TO THOSE IT EFFECTED THE MOST .. THE POOR AND WORKING CLASS

Why ? .. Because The Middle Class And Those Of The Privileged Wealthy Class Could Easily Obtain A College Deferment Or Get A Private Medical Doctor To Classify Them Unfit For Military Duty For A Fraudulent Medical Condition Like Donald J Trump And His "Bone Spurs"

 

[Inkandtatts]

The draughts in my house aren’t sexist. They chill you regardless of gender

 

[AshleeLightBringer]

I suppose you could blame the men who established the draft back in 1940, because in that era, "a woman's place was in the home". Since 1980, men have been required to register for the Selective Service, in case the United States reinstates the draft. In 1981, the Supreme Court concluded that women could not register for the Selective Service, because they were not then eligible for military combat roles. The constitutionality of excluding women was tested in the courts. A Supreme Court decision in 1981, Rostker v. Goldberg, held that registering only men did not violate the due process clause of the Constitution.