Should Pornography Be ILLEGAL???? šŸ™ˆ

Should Pornography of any kind be made against the law???? šŸ™ˆ


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hai friends, šŸ™‹šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

welcome to a very special edition of polls by dolla;

typically i'd still be taking my scheduled content break, but in light of this thread; https://forum.chat-avenue.com/threads/awareness-thread-for-teenagers-v-2.950939/#post-1356133

i thought that a poll, & good ol' fashion debate on the subject was in order; s0 im taking a moment from my content hiatus to present this very riveting poll šŸ‘‡šŸ¼

should pornography be made illegal????

my talking point was as followed;

pornography basically causes cancer of the mind,

it destroys a persons dopamine receptors so much, that eventually a person riddled with a pornography addiction starts seeking increasingly depraved things to such an extent normal things no longer are arousing to them (significant other, opposite sex, actual people, etc) bc their dopamine is so exhausted that it takes increasingly more depraved things to get that same feeling…

…its like doing increasingly harder drugs…

it sometimes is so bad that someone who is completely heterosexual becomes convinced they’re homosexual, when theyre mentally wired to be heterosexual; yes pornography is toxic enough to completely warp your sexuality; because heterosexual pornography becomes boring to them, & they start seeking something different to keep the high fresh…

it’ll completely ruin your imagination, masturbation is totally healthy & normal, but not when you require pornography to masturbate…

im 100% on board with pornography being banned, its practically heroin & is rotting the minds of the youth, creating sexual depraved adults; so it might actually be worse than heroin…

if u suffer from a pornography addiction, as embarrassing or shameful as it might be; seek help; you’ll be a much happier person without it…

take it from me, i never watch pornography & i exist in a state of perpetual happiness šŸ™‚ā€ā†”ļø

with that being said, wat do you think???

should pornography of all kinds be against the law to possess, produce, or indulge in????

...vote & discuss...

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peace,
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Porn makes the most of the youth braindead and most men and women get unrealistic standards from watching. Also, it corrupts young men's minds to only see women as something they can just use and abuse and they only see women as objects, it also makes it so younger women think they can only be an object for men or just in general show of their bodies because they are told that is what they are only good for. This has been a problem long before the internet and porn though, porn has just made the issue 10x worse.
 
I think part of that has to do with the unhealthy way we view sexuality in America.
Agreed that's why in some countries they don't have that issue, like Syria, Turkey and some others they don't have the issue of over sexualisation of women and everything else, but then they have their own issues one being women having to be slaves and follow orders no matter what from their husbands or a male figure and they can't work or go to school, so they have half of it right but if they sorted out the other parts that make it so women over there are not only seen and not able to do anything but be their husbands personal slave, then it would be perfect. I don't think any country does it right, its either less sexualisation but they are put down in other ways and have to obey everything their husbands say, or women are over sexualized until this issue is fixed then women will always be put down in some way and men will always view women as sexual objects or as a lesser person if they from a country that doesn't oversexualizing women.
 
They allow it because its "acting" but you don't see Chuck Norris really kicking people in the face.

Only softcore is "acting".

I am not giving my opinion on whether i believe it should be illegal or legal i am just stating that under the logic of pornography being legal then prostitution should also be legal as there is no difference.
 
I don't think it should be banned, I think there needs to be stricter laws surrounding it and the types of porn produced still, and I think we do need to educate people more on how it's not real, the risks of addiction, and the back story of the porn industry.

As I said in the other thread, there are production companies that are being more ethical, and it is a bigger subject in the porn industry... But that being said, there is still very much so a dark side of the industry and that still needs so much work to do better.

I'll keep reiterating. Education is key. Make sure the youth (I'm talking youth of an age that will start watching, not super young children before anyone kicks off) know porn isn't real so they don't think it's normal in real relationships, but don't tell them it can't be enjoyed in a healthy way because it definitely can.

All banning it does is make them want to go and find it more and also makes them feel uncomfortable. Shaming someone without giving them a chance to be educated on a subject just means they're more likely to fall into the trap of something, and most people do have a moral compass that when they see the facts might choose to watch a film from the above ethical productions rather than one of the less ethical ones... Wouldn't that be a better option?
 
Pornography isnt ethical. All those "actresses" are being exploited because theyre prostitutes and drug addicts. Typicaly with a history of sexual abuse. Their autonomy bears nothing in comparison to the coercion and exploitation these multimillion porno companies commit. Female adult film performers have significantly worse mental health and higher rates of depression than other women of similar ages because theyre all used and tossed aside for the next girl. Thats why they all end up commiting suicide.
 
Lust Cinema
Make Love Not Porn
SPIT
Bellesa
JoyBear
A Four Chambered Heart
PinkLabel
Bright Desire
Lightsouthern Cinema
Dipsea
Afterglow
Dreams of Spanking
Lustery

All place a high importance on consent, sexual health, female led and driven stories (not limited to women being pleasured rather than as an object to be used by men), less degradation, diverse bodies, with a focus on what REAL SEX is including intimacy, foreplay emphasis, and laughter as part of sex. They are all usually paid sites so there is fair pay in the industry. This is literally just a small list of the companies trying to do better for people in porn and the viewers themselves.

Don't be so bloody stupid, Bread. Yes there is a problem in the industry, I've openly said that, but there are companies looking to change that, and if more people supported these companies, and more education was given instead of pornhub and xvideos being the "norm" of porn, then the change might happen in a more timely and widespread manner.
 
All place a high importance on consent, sexual health, female led and driven stories (not limited to women being pleasured rather than as an object to be used by men), less degradation, diverse bodies, with a focus on what REAL SEX is including intimacy, foreplay emphasis, and laughter as part of sex. They are all usually paid sites so there is fair pay in the industry. This is literally just a small list of the companies trying to do better for people in porn and the viewers themselves.
The parts in bold is true of all PORN companies. Even the "abusive" ones. Its part of what makes pornography legal. Just because they sign a paper consenting to be used doesnt mean theyre not being coerced exploited or abused.

The latter (not in bold) sounds more like a genre of porn.
Not all porn is of the "degrading" type, or women being used as "objects" by men.

I dont see any porn company prioritizing drug tests, drug addiction help, and mental health as a pre requisite to shooting porn. If they did theyd be all out of "new faces"
 
In general no it shouldn't be illegal but it needs a lot more regulation. All this "step mom", "step dad", "step sister", "step brother" crap as well as including actors that look about 12 is promoting and normalising things that shouldn't be par for the course.
 
f r a n k l y ,

i dont think you could possibly make such an industry ethnical, u can try to make it less fantastical & more so on the realm of reality;

…but there is nothing ethnical ever about being paid for sex, or making a living off another’s depravity…

beyond the grotesque content that is being pushed, such as the likes of which that @Inkandtatts emphasizes on; sure you can regulate the content produced, making it less perverse, but is that really the issue here??? no, thats just an issue that comes with such a dastardly & unregulated industry…

no, it doesnt solve the issue; bc the fact of the matter isnt unrealistic sex standards, or extremely perverse content that can be easily accessed by anyone that clicks * yes i am over 21 * but the fact is actually that pornography no matter how much you try regulating it, or making the industry more ethical it doesnt solve the grave issue which is pornography addictions šŸ™ˆšŸ™‰šŸ™Š

it’s the addictions that cause ppl to seek increasingly more depraved acts of sex to continue fueling the dopamine rush watching pornography gives them; this is a huge reason why you’ll find ppl who prior to developing a pornography addiction, were completely heterosexual but eventually as their addiction deepened, heterosexual pornography wasnt doing it for them & now they’re watching gay stuff, have grown into a dark state of insecurity thinking that theyre actually gay only for their sexuality to rest after curbing that addiction…

the problem with pornography is how it effects the mind, the way it can completely change the chemistry in your brain, like drugs; causing you to become withdrawn from your friends, family, your wife / husband & children šŸ’šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

pornography addictions literally destroys lives, corrupt minds, & immoralizes the soul; thats why it should be undoubtedly criminalized šŸ™‚ā€ā†”ļø

peace,
god-bless šŸ•ŠļøšŸ•Šļø
 
Generally speaking, Pornography is vile content that is a danger to society and the links between sexual violence and people who are porn hounds are well documented. It can and often is detrimental to normal sexual health and development in particular for young men.

Any kind of sex for sale is harmful to some degree, Also somewhat shocking that proponents of protecting women from sexual violence for example, are supporters of content that are well known to be associated, with very serious /violent behaviour towards women - so it it causation or corellation ?

Several studies have shown a large increase in content with sexually aggressive content towards women, and another study by the BBC (British Broadcasting lol) showed that gay males who watch sexually explicit material where condoms are not used- resulted in more gay males engaging in activities where they don't use condoms for example.

(This comment isn't intended to judge those people who watch porn)
 
No.

The only real ā€œdetrimentsā€ pornography can cause (if one allows it to) is desensitization (physically and mentally), sexist beliefs that can lead to aggression (specifically from men), the possible inability to maintain a healthy, sexual relationship (or any healthy relationship at all), and unrealistic expectations (including no condoms), which would be true across all sexual orientations.

Sexual aggression exists because kinks and sexist beliefs exist, and communication/comprehension is a thing of the past, so when one ā€œsexually aggressiveā€ person links up with a ā€œsexually vanillaā€ person, it can seem ā€œdangerousā€ to the bland flavor.

Also, the News/Magazines/etc. will only ever show you what they want you to see. Best to source scientific journals/research for examples of opinions or ā€œstatisticsā€ that haven’t already been formed prior to any actual research, but you’ll still find that the consensus is at a 50/50, with ā€œbeliefsā€ being the main reason as to why some deem it ā€œdangerousā€, and why others find the hilarity within the attempts to bypass accountability for one’s own actions due to said beliefs, similar to politics and religion.

Ultimately, though, 73.6% of statistics are made up, and Wikipedia isn’t a credible source, ever. 🄓
 
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Several studies have shown a large increase in content with sexually aggressive content towards women, and another study by the BBC (British Broadcasting lol) showed that gay males who watch sexually explicit material where condoms are not used- resulted in more gay males engaging in activities where they don't use condoms for example.
Maybe it depends on the type of porn you watch. I guess if a person’s only exposure to and knowledge of sex is by watching abusive/aggressive straight porn and condomless gay porn, I’d say they need to get out more rather than having porn criminalised.

Speaking from personal experience I can say that I’ve never been inclined to be aggressive or violent towards anyone of any gender and I’ve never had a burning desire to avoid safe sex.

BBC is a frequent haunt though especially at 6pm weekdays and the odd Saturday night.

Dang you tagged inkntat on a thread about sexual content in an open forum that is accessible to 13+ year olds. I wonder if he'll harass you and try to lock your thread into the adult chat forum instead of the debate thread where it belongs.
Let’s clear this up. I didn’t harass you and I didn’t ask for it to be moved to the adult section. I reported your post because you asked people for childhood memories of kids wanting to do adult things with adults.

If anyone believes that’s an appropriate discussion to have anywhere then that belief says a lot about the person. Such a conversation in Gay Chat would be met with an instant ban.

That thread was, thankfully, heavily edited to remove all of the references to ā€œchildhoodā€ and ā€œkidsā€. I don’t intend to debate it - the thread can be seen by all 3 UMs and all 3 can see exactly what you posted.

I’m pretty sure @babydolla doesn’t want this thread turning into a shitshow of you defending your weird thread, so this is all I’m saying on it.
 
...pretty sure if you're watching porn, and you genuinely think, despite the infamously bad acting, that THATS how its done/happens.... Sounds like a you issue tbh.

But personally really couldn't care less. Sure it'd be a bummer, but... probably get over it pretty quickly.
 
Maybe it depends on the type of porn you watch. I guess if a person’s only exposure to and knowledge of sex is by watching abusive/aggressive straight porn and condomless gay porn, I’d say they need to get out more rather than having porn criminalised.

The BBC didn't differentiate or was not clear if the corellation applied equally to straight/gay sex. I looks like their focus was on whether porn was harmful to the degree it was associated with unhealthy/abnormal sexual practices, and the gay example was only intended for that purpose.

edit: will site the studies and source for reference.

Here an article from the BBC

Is porn harmful? The evidence, the myths and the unknowns​

26 September 2017
By Jessica Brown, Features correspondent


Is Porn Bad for You, BBC Science Focus
BY Zoe Cormier Zoe Cormier is a science writer, broadcaster and public speaker with a BSc in zoology from the University of Toronto.

Published: May 8, 2023 at 8:00 am


A meta-analysis – a study of studies – published by Malamuth in 2009 found that hundreds of papers from the 1980s to 2008 were fairly consistent in "linking high rates of porn viewing with violence against women". But here’s the caveat: not all men respond to porn in the same way. Sources cited and authors related by BBC published first Oct 2009

Pornography and attitudes supporting violence against women: revisiting the relationship in nonexperimental studies published by Malamuth in 2009


Prof Valerie Voon is a neuroscientist based at the University of Cambridge who studies impulsivity, compulsion and addiction. Her research focuses on understanding the mechanisms underlying human self-control and compulsivity relevant to addictions and compulsive disorder.


Prof Neil Malamuth is an interdisciplinary social scientist who studies violence and conflict based at UCLA. His research looks at identifying the characteristics of men who commit sexual aggression against women.


Dr Taylor Kohut is a psychologist at the University of Western Ontario, where he studies human sexuality and the positive effects of pornography. His research has been published in PloS One and The Journal Of Sex Research.



Dr Nicole Prause is an American neuroscientist who researches human sexual behaviour and addiction. In 2015, she founded sexual biotechnology company Liberos LLC after studying at the Sexual Psychophysiology and Affective Neuroscience Laboratory for 10 years.

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The BBC didn't differentiate or was not clear if the corellation applied equally to straight/gay sex. I looks like their focus was on whether porn was harmful to the degree it was associated with unhealthy/abnormal sexual practices, and the gay example was only intended for that purpose.

edit: will site the studies and source for reference.

Mary Whitehouse made similar points in the 60s to advocate for the banning of Tom & Jerry

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Several studies have shown a large increase in content with sexually aggressive content towards women, and another study by the BBC (British Broadcasting lol) showed that gay males who watch sexually explicit material where condoms are not used- resulted in more gay males engaging in activities where they don't use condoms for example.
The BBC didn't differentiate or was not clear if the corellation applied equally to straight/gay sex. I looks like their focus was on whether porn was harmful to the degree it was associated with unhealthy/abnormal sexual practices, and the gay example was only intended for that purpose.
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Here’s a direct quote from the end of the first article cited:
ā€œ..the evidence so far suggests that the likelihood that porn has a negative effect very much depends on the individual consuming it.ā€

Here’s a direct quote from the middle-ish of the second cited article:
ā€œā€˜There is as much of a case to be made for the benefits as well as the harms,’ Prause says.

ā€˜The field is riddled with misconceptions and biases that are not supported by the data,’ she says.ā€
 
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Here’s a direct quote from the end of the first article cited:
ā€œ..the evidence so far suggests that the likelihood that porn has a negative effect very much depends on the individual consuming it.ā€

Here’s a direct quote from the middle-ish of the second cited article:
ā€œā€˜There is as much of a case to be made for the benefits as well as the harms,’ Prause says.

ā€˜The field is riddled with misconceptions and biases that are not supported by the data,’ she says.ā€
Okay but what about the individuals producing it

How is their mental health
 
& you believe it's an industry that should be allowed to continue to thrive???
I find it strange that you would be against it based on your conservative values.

I mean, Republicans who want to ban porn but want the government to keep their hands off your guns seems to be a bit sh!t in the consistency department.

You can say that adult porn is not hurting anyone watching it, the the adult stars performing are not forced to do it.
 
I don’t think it should be banned. To each their own. If someone wants to watch it, it should be their decision. Certain types of porn is gross, but yeah to each their own.
Is that a fact? NSFW time... šŸ˜‰ hahahaha lol
 
Any kind of sex for sale is harmful to some degree, Also somewhat shocking that proponents of protecting women from sexual violence for example, are supporters of content that are well known to be associated, with very serious /violent behaviour towards women - so it it causation or corellation ?
I wouldn’t say they are necessarily ā€œsupportersā€ of pornographic content, just that it shouldn’t be banned. Most who are against a ban are likely well aware that what you have pointed out is contradictory. They just don’t want it to be banned. I mean, most stuff in life has negative sides when indulged in obsessively, doesn’t mean it should be banned. We’d have to go on a banning spree…..

Awareness goes a long way. Lift taboos and stigmas. Make sure people don’t get exploited. Invest in education and support programs for people who struggle with addiction, but don’t take away a healthy functioning person’s right to indulge in something they deem pleasurable.
 
And I'll reiterate...

Education is key. The words of some people in here are showing that actually we're a society not being educated enough on it, and there's a lot of people not taking accountability for their own actions.

other than the likes of; * educating people that pornography creates an unrealistic standard for sex, & isnt real * what else exactly do people need to be educated for?

bc even if u has so-called-ethnical pornography, & u educated ppl on it being fake; that still doesnt magically solve the most serious aspect of the pornography question, & that is pornography addiction along with the terminal effects that has on the mind & brain chemstry…

making the * industry * more informative, educational, & ethnical isnt going to make ppl less addicted to it; instead they’ll still suffer from pornography addictions, but will instead also has the knowledge that not all vaginas look like a teenager’s & that the ones like that in adult films are surgically modified to look that way…

they wont be ignorant af anymore sure, but their mind is still being polluted by digital cancer thats fuckin’ permanently with their brain chemistry šŸ‘ŗ
 
I think the education would refer to the practice of safe sex, respect and consent. That’s what I would educate on. Oh and limitations

When you get sadistic torture porn scenarios of someone being choked and (since it’s in adult forum now I’ll say it polite as possible) penetrated extremely rough, that doesn’t give off a positive at least not in my eyes. Would anyone really consent to that? Possibly, but it’s not for me.

Oh and as for the education of safe sex, yes I understand there are couples who don’t for many reasons- monogamy, trusted FwB etc, that’s absolutely fine and can be educated about. Not some smut of someone taking a multitude of men unprotected.

Applies to straight and gay porn JS.

Edit- limitations
 
I think the education would refer to the practice of safe sex, respect and consent. That’s what I would educate on. Oh and limitations

When you get sadistic torture porn scenarios of someone being choked and (since it’s in adult forum now I’ll say it polite as possible) penetrated extremely rough, that doesn’t give off a positive at least not in my eyes. Would anyone really consent to that? Possibly, but it’s not for me.

Oh and as for the education of safe sex, yes I understand there are couples who don’t for many reasons- monogamy, trusted FwB etc, that’s absolutely fine and can be educated about. Not some smut of someone taking a multitude of men unprotected.

Applies to straight and gay porn JS.

Edit- limitations

im growing convinced that most of you (maybe not specifically you) are all suffering from porn addictions…

everyone is so concerned with educating on the reality of adult films, the ethics of the industry, & how extremely perverse things need to be regulated…

but so far i’ve only seen myself highlighting the dangers of a pornography addiction, something which regulations, eduction, & a more ethical industry wouldn’t even remotely solve…

the only way to combat a porn addiction is the same way you combat heroin addictions, & that’s by banning it šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

golly guys, if u need to masturbate that bad, just use your imagination; your mind is more powerful than anything u could possibly watch on a screen, & youre destroying it with smut

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I don’t watch porn because it reminds me that I cannot have a hairy straight builder in rigger boots ( obVioUsLY I’m jOkInG šŸ‘€) and most of all, can’t be arsed (no pun!). 🤣

I for one wouldn’t educate on normalising the perverse- I’m on the far end of the opposite side!

babydolla sweets- heroin users get methadone- what would the porn addicts get if banned?
 
actually now you remind me it is the fukn gays fault.

I wanted the resident evil symbol tattoo when I was younger (still do because Chris redfield is my bf) until I found out what that symbol also meant. šŸ–•
 
while we're at it lets ban alcohol, gambling, religion, sports fandom, all social media, video games since all these things if taken to the extreme can ruin lives.
Food, too. Because the issues surrounding the most basic of needs are also a killer. This is a very valid point.

im growing convinced that most of you (maybe not specifically you) are all suffering from porn addictions…
I've outright said, I don't watch porn often at all. My imagination is my go-to, but equally other people are allowed to watch it and enjoy it.
everyone is so concerned with educating on the reality of adult films, the ethics of the industry, & how extremely perverse things need to be regulated…
Because if you make porn more ethical and you educate people on porn then usage would change and people would go into it with a clearer picture of what is real and what isn't. It would also mean more pay sites rather than free sites, and again that would lessen access, it would educate young men and women on the issues of consent and how everything can play a role in life without it being the be all and end all.
but so far i’ve only seen myself highlighting the dangers of a pornography addiction, something which regulations, eduction, & a more ethical industry wouldn’t even remotely solve…
I'm not saying porn addiction isn't an issue, but there's a responsibility on the lack of education surrounding it, how to notice the signs, how to get treatment, how in real life it isn't the same.

FYI, chronic masturbation even without porn causes males and females to both develop sensitivity issues. It might not make you go blind, but it will mean you might not get off penetrating a vagina or without the use of a vibratory. Social media influencers who can be followed by minors openly advertise sex toys.

the only way to combat a porn addiction is the same way you combat heroin addictions, & that’s by banning it šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø
As Luka said, most addictions come with legalised versions to stop withdrawals. People can't even access therapy for drug use in a lot of cases due to a system that is failing itself (we could use more education on drug use, too) and is overrun.
golly guys, if u need to masturbate that bad, just use your imagination; your mind is more powerful than anything u could possibly watch on a screen, & youre destroying it with smut
And sometimes my mind doesn't want to work at creating images, sometimes I just want to cum and then get on with my day. Does that make me a bad person?

Should I think about spanking my neighbour or think about spanking a girl on the Internet who openly put herself on that (in the majority of cases before we make this a consent thing. I'm discussing porn of the consensual, ethical kind not companies that walk a thin line of barely being legal)

Again there are issues in porn, but if you educate people most people on it being a FANTASY and ensure consent, safe sex, and other such things, porn wouldn't be half as bad. E.g posting something over produced as amateur.

If we're going the route where it's porn's fault... Why can people watch Harry Potter and not think they're going to become a wizard? Or play GTA and not go kill a prostitute and take their money? They're aware that is fantasy. And why if people don't like horror, they just don't watch a horror. It's accountability after education and people engaging in their tastes.

Even hardcore porn has it's place because some people are actually into that. There's plenty of sites dedicated to people finding like for like minds with sex... So educate people to explore it in a safe way so they know what they are into and can go into a community that accepts their tastes in a safe way in the real world, too. I'm not going to demonised someone for sexual tastes if it is legal, safe, and consensual. If those three things are followed what people do in the bedroom is their choice and none of my business.

And I'm three pints deep so this is as much sense as you're getting out of me right now.
 
someone being choked and (since it’s in adult forum now I’ll say it polite as possible) penetrated extremely rough, that doesn’t give off a positive at least not in my eyes. Would anyone really consent to that?
You might be surprised. We have many people in our rooms who enjoy rough sex, that some might see as violent or abusive. Binding, choking, clamping, gagging, constricting, suspending, etc.

To each their own šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø
 
You might be surprised. We have many people in our rooms who enjoy rough sex, that some might see as violent or abusive. Binding, choking, clamping, gagging, constricting, suspending, etc.

To each their own šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø
Yes correct which is why limitations should be taught also because it (hopefully) would register that there’s a choice and not expected. But porn doesn’t feature that aspect which is why I think snippets of factual experiences should be educated for everyone.

No kink shame to anyone. Unless it’s illegal then I wish the worst.
 
Yes correct which is why limitations should be taught also because it (hopefully) would register that there’s a choice and not expected. But porn doesn’t feature that aspect which is why I think snippets of factual experiences should be educated for everyone.

No kink shame to anyone. Unless it’s illegal then I wish the worst.
Exactly. It has to be consensual and isn't an expectation for someone to be into that. Telling someone they're wrong to enjoy something does more damage than educating them on it. Telling them no makes it's taboo in itself with makes the appeal to rebel even worse.
 
Exactly. It has to be consensual and isn't an expectation for someone to be into that. Telling someone they're wrong to enjoy something does more damage than educating them on it. Telling them no makes it's taboo in itself with makes the appeal to rebel even worse.
Spot on!

I should’ve been born female but clearly my parents wanted a gay. 🤣

Universally porn centres on straight (don’t @ me with stats of other porn categories) but out of hetero/homo, its hetero gets the most which is where it stems from (again categorising depicted acts) its never (never really ) the male getting roughed up by the female - affirming my point it must be taught that its not reality, there are options, and especially boys being taught the same as girls if not more.

If that makes sense

Edit: bold because soapie traumatised me
 
Food, too. Because the issues surrounding the most basic of needs are also a killer. This is a very valid point.


I've outright said, I don't watch porn often at all. My imagination is my go-to, but equally other people are allowed to watch it and enjoy it.

Because if you make porn more ethical and you educate people on porn then usage would change and people would go into it with a clearer picture of what is real and what isn't. It would also mean more pay sites rather than free sites, and again that would lessen access, it would educate young men and women on the issues of consent and how everything can play a role in life without it being the be all and end all.

I'm not saying porn addiction isn't an issue, but there's a responsibility on the lack of education surrounding it, how to notice the signs, how to get treatment, how in real life it isn't the same.

FYI, chronic masturbation even without porn causes males and females to both develop sensitivity issues. It might not make you go blind, but it will mean you might not get off penetrating a vagina or without the use of a vibratory. Social media influencers who can be followed by minors openly advertise sex toys.


As Luka said, most addictions come with legalised versions to stop withdrawals. People can't even access therapy for drug use in a lot of cases due to a system that is failing itself (we could use more education on drug use, too) and is overrun.

And sometimes my mind doesn't want to work at creating images, sometimes I just want to cum and then get on with my day. Does that make me a bad person?

Should I think about spanking my neighbour or think about spanking a girl on the Internet who openly put herself on that (in the majority of cases before we make this a consent thing. I'm discussing porn of the consensual, ethical kind not companies that walk a thin line of barely being legal)

Again there are issues in porn, but if you educate people most people on it being a FANTASY and ensure consent, safe sex, and other such things, porn wouldn't be half as bad. E.g posting something over produced as amateur.

If we're going the route where it's porn's fault... Why can people watch Harry Potter and not think they're going to become a wizard? Or play GTA and not go kill a prostitute and take their money? They're aware that is fantasy. And why if people don't like horror, they just don't watch a horror. It's accountability after education and people engaging in their tastes.

Even hardcore porn has it's place because some people are actually into that. There's plenty of sites dedicated to people finding like for like minds with sex... So educate people to explore it in a safe way so they know what they are into and can go into a community that accepts their tastes in a safe way in the real world, too. I'm not going to demonised someone for sexual tastes if it is legal, safe, and consensual. If those three things are followed what people do in the bedroom is their choice and none of my business.

And I'm three pints deep so this is as much sense as you're getting out of me right now.

i think all that would do is serve to just educate ppl on the falsehood of pornography, that'll perhaps at the most make ppl who would otherwise be sexually ignorant be maybe more passionate & selfless luvers...

i don't think anything you've mentioned above would do anything to solve the addiction problem, it might make it more difficult to access if they were all to be paysites; similar to laws being in place that supposedly make drugs less accessible to the addicts that indulge in them...

now rather than being free, these people will pay for it, they'll pay for it all the same a degenerate gambler would pay for scratch off lottery tickets until they don't even has money for the bare essentials; which would make having such an addiction even more dangerous bc of the financial repercussions that oh so often come with feeding any addiction at all; just so happens to be that one of the most ferocious addictions is pornography, which can be argued is a form of sex addiction which is too ferocious...

chronic masturbation isn't nearly as dangerous to the mind or body as a chronic porn addiction is, yes youre genitals will become desensitized which is another kind of hell, i imagine 🄲

but chronic masturbation isn't going to warp the chemistry of your brain, it's not going to overload your dopamine receptors, it's not going to give you hormonal imbalances that starts making you aroused by things you wouldn't find arousing if u didn't have a porn addiction, it's not going to cause you to become sexually dysfunctional, it's going to at worse give ur penis or vagina nerve damage from friction that'll cause the skin to chafe desensitizing you which there are things like KY that has products which help with sensitivity problems; but a pornography addiction is going to do all of those things, porn addiction which is a form of sex addiction is legally considered a disease šŸ™Š

i wouldnt doubt if there is someone who watched harry potter, hopped on a broomstick, & jumped off their roof šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚

but in all seriousness, u can't compare harry potter & the sorcerer's stone to backdoor sluts 9; sex is part of human nature, it's biologically imbedded into your dna to desire sex, no doubt hollywood movies & video games influence ppl's decisions & how they think...

but sex is a completely different beast than magic; like, harry potter might make someone interested in being a wiccan loser, but porn can completely ruin someone's life & destroy entire families, possibly even pass that trait along to their children šŸ™ŽšŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

it really doesn't matter how ethical, nice, friendly, consensual, & educational you make the porn industry; it won't solve the grave addiction that is spawned from it, there is a reason why the saying * sex sells * exists šŸœ

p.s @Louize; no babe, you arent a bad person; watching porn doesn't make you or anyone else a bad person, porn is just bad for you, & my emphasis on why is bc of the horrid addiction associated with it as well how easily a person can become addicted to it šŸ«¶šŸ¼

peace,
god-bless šŸ•ŠļøšŸ•Šļø
 
do not listen to those people who don't make a difference from the difference.
 
From the CBC , so BBC aversive are protected.
Ngl I couldn’t stand the robot voice to be able to listen to all of it but they started banging on about addiction and ā€œthe scienceā€ behind it.

If the science of addiction is used as an argument for ā€œporn is bad and should be illegalā€ then I guess we should all be advocating for weed to be illegal everywhere again, sweets/candy to be illegal, all caffeinated drinks to be illegal, all alcohol to be illegal, not to mention absolutely any and all serialised TV shows and books.

Ultimately let’s just make sex illegal because that can be pretty addictive

Anyone got the number of a good rehab clinic? Asking for a friend

btw...the CBC that is referred to in that video is Consider Before Consuming and not Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
I assumed the first C would stand for ā€œCaucasianā€ and the B would be for ā€œBigā€. I couldn’t work out what the second C would have been.
 
it also states in the video description "Consider Before Consuming is brought to you by Fight the New Drug, a non-religious, non-legislative nonprofit dedicated to educating individuals on the harms of pornography using only science, facts, and personal accounts."
Fight the New Drug was started by Fight for Love Ministries whose website states:
By availing yourself of our resources, community, and recommended avenues of help, you can take biblically-based, proactive action to take back your marriage from porn.

So yeah, i'm going to question any "science" they bring up.
 
If the science of addiction is used as an argument for ā€œporn is bad and should be illegalā€ then I guess we should all be advocating for weed to be illegal everywhere again, sweets/candy to be illegal,

Not really intended as an argument, rather a snapshot on how it affects the brain. The recreational use of weed (here) is regulated, but still criminal otherwise. Its illegal to produce moonshine (here) or to sell booze without a LCB permit. Sugar while addictive, tends to harm the user (only) but Im unaware of sugar addiction being correlated to violence on women ( other than one off hypoglycemia rages perhaps) cigarettes , are illegal to produce and sell without authorization.

This poll didnt include the option of "regulation" only prohibition, which is known to not be a good means of changing behaviour but can impede access. Given the choice presented, legal (without regulation) or illegal, the latter at least - would probably reduce violence against women.

How the pleasure centers of the brain work- is quite well documented, so its not relevant who presents that info, nor grounds to assume it's inherently biased. Anyone taking a position on anything would be charged with bias if that was the case. But it is grounds to check their studies/sources)

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This is a fallacy in which a claim is rejected on the basis of an aspect of someone's character, identity, motivations, or even the relationships they have with others.
 
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Awareness goes a long way. Lift taboos and stigmas. Make sure people don’t get exploited. Invest in education and support programs for people who struggle with addiction, but don’t take away a healthy functioning person’s right to indulge in something they deem pleasurable.
People just keep repeating **** I said 10 posts earlier. It’s what us Dutchies do best, being tolerant and acceptive.

#First country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage and one of the few countries where euthanasia and abort are legal on request. Pro Choice mf’ers. You dig? What I do with my body is my choice and none of your business.

In the meantime:
 
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It’ll never be banned. Not on a global or even a national level. Even the most autocratic of regimes allow p0rnhub. So isn’t this debate just mere hypothetical? People’ll do anything for a buck and p0rn generates wealth. People’ll set aside their moral scruples because p0rn is big business. It’s all about keeping your funds in without any ā€œprematureā€ withdrawals both financially and sеxually….
 
Not really intended as an argument, rather a snapshot on how it affects the brain. The recreational use of weed (here) is regulated, but still criminal otherwise. Its illegal to produce moonshine (here) or to sell booze without a LCB permit. Sugar while addictive, tends to harm the user (only) but Im unaware of sugar addiction being correlated to violence on women ( other than one off hypoglycemia rages perhaps) cigarettes , are illegal to produce and sell without authorization.

This poll didnt include the option of "regulation" only prohibition, which is known to not be a good means of changing behaviour but can impede access. Given the choice presented, legal (without regulation) or illegal, the latter at least - would probably reduce violence against women.

How the pleasure centers of the brain work- is quite well documented, so its not relevant who presents that info, nor grounds to assume it's inherently biased. Anyone taking a position on anything would be charged with bias if that was the case. But it is grounds to check their studies/sources)


It would be interesting to see any independent studies showing the number of cases of violence against women being attributed to watching porn which at trial would likely (if the argument is accepted) provide a defence/mitigation on the basis of diminished responsibility or insanity. The only published examples I recall of people arguing ā€œporn made me do itā€ involved offenders who had mental illnesses.


Maybe we could do a real study here. Before I get on to that though, all the staff of the Adult,, Sex, and Gay rooms are exposed to pornographic material daily. I could be wrong but I don’t think it’s done anything to our brains.

Everyone, I think we should do a study:

Have you/do you watch porn? Has it caused you to be violent towards anyone?


I’ll go first:

Yes I see a lot of pornographic material in Gay Chat.

Yes I’ve watched porn.

No I’ve never been violent towards a woman. Other than defending myself, I’ve never been violent towards anyone else


it already is regulated.
This is what I was thinking too. It’s a given that the question posed is ā€œshould regulated porn be illegal?ā€ since it’s not asking about the types of porn that are already illegal
 
It’ll never be banned. Not on a global or even a national level. Even the most autocratic of regimes allow p0rnhub. So isn’t this debate just mere hypothetical? People’ll do anything for a buck and p0rn generates wealth. People’ll set aside their moral scruples because p0rn is big business. It’s all about keeping your funds in without any ā€œprematureā€ withdrawals both financially and sеxually….
Agreed, if anything it’s only getting bigger and more accepting globally. However, it now seems to be more age regulated which is appreciated considering how many kids have access to the internet now. Either way, is it healthy for the brain? I think we all know it isn’t.

Should it be banned? I don’t think so, adults should be able to manage their own life and capabilities.
 
It would be interesting to see any independent studies showing the number of cases of violence against women being attributed to watching porn which at trial would likely (if the argument is accepted) provide a defence/mitigation on the basis of diminished responsibility or insanity. The only published examples I recall of people arguing ā€œporn made me do itā€ involved offenders who had mental illnesses.


Maybe we could do a real study here. Before I get on to that though, all the staff of the Adult,, Sex, and Gay rooms are exposed to pornographic material daily. I could be wrong but I don’t think it’s done anything to our brains.

Everyone, I think we should do a study:

Have you/do you watch porn? Has it caused you to be violent towards anyone?


I’ll go first:

Yes I see a lot of pornographic material in Gay Chat.

Yes I’ve watched porn.

No I’ve never been violent towards a woman. Other than defending myself, I’ve never been violent towards anyone else



This is what I was thinking too. It’s a given that the question posed is ā€œshould regulated porn be illegal?ā€ since it’s not asking about the types of porn that are already illegal
exactly, the idea that a study is concrete fact and nothing but absolute science is silly. there are many factors like who is conducting the study, who is funding the study, the parameters of the study, how the results of the study are presented.

Taking somebody's word for it about what a study says and what the results are is ludicrous. especially when they aren't jut saying here is the study read it and analyze it. if a group that wasn't even involved in conducting the study is the one presenting it, there's zero way to know they are relaying the info accurately. And even reading a study yourself doesn't mean you understand the data you're being given.
 
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