Ok. before I start, I just wanted to say that the views expressed here aren't necessarily my persoal views regarding the topic. I only chose to be for the motion because I know most of you people will be against it. And I don't want this to be a debate where everyone is on the same side.
Noes. Just a rhetorical question, not a question aimed at anyone. I was thinking out loud.
I'm against it, because it's not anyones choice if she gets pregnant or not, and it's only her that's responsible for her actions, which doesn't mean her education could falter.
Then again, the teachers/headmaster etc could think it's a bad thing, because not setting a good example to younger girls.
Meh, I'm against it and thank god I can't get pregnant.
Actually Luka, it
is their choice. That is one of the things you can't argue about. I mean, people just don't get pregnant out of the blue. They are pregnant because they choose to have unprotected s
ex.
You're saying that if a girl is pregnant then she should be expelled, which shows young ones that they shouldn't sleep around and all that, well if you are expelling the girl for sleeping around then the father of the child should be expelled too when possible, if they are in the same school like. Because otherwise the boys will still be carrying on as they do and the girls will be getting punnished for it in more ways than one.
What you said about r.ape victims is absolutely dicussting how the hell can you say something like? So some poor innocent girl of 14 walking home from school who gets abducted and all that was asking for it? YOU have a messed up mind if that is what you believe.
The education system shouldn't just abandon these girls by kicking them out, alright so it might be easier/safer if they weren't around a million other students in case of accidents, then someone should set up a programme which would basically be a centre where the girls could be taught in a 'safer environment' if you will.
Kids who are expelled in England aren't dropped totally, they useually have the option of going to a centre thing where they can carry on the basics of their education, girls who fall pregnant should have the same option.
SO there you go... :dontknow:
Expelling the fathers are problematic. Firstly, they will deny that they are the father << Which will lead to possible DNA testings, which can be costly, as well as unconstitutional. Secondly, the reason for expelling girls is for the safety of the baby. And seeing as boys don't carry babies, expelling them for that purpose would be a bit rediculous.
With regard to r
ape victims, I said they can take the morning after pill. :hmm: How the heck is that messed up? And you cannot say to me that date-r
apes don't occur because they DO. In that case, the girls brought it onto themselves by being s
lutty. And please note I'm generalising. So don't tell me that your sister or w/e is innocent, because she might be an exception...that doesn't mean that all girls are like her.
The education system is not abandoning them. The government can build special institutions for them. Places that are safer than a normal school.
Everyone deserves an education.
Read above comment. Just because we're taking them out of a school doesn't mean we're refusing them an education.
WHAT A FUCKING IRRESPONSIBLE AND IDIOTIC THING TO SAY!!!
So a girl goes to a party, just with a group of friends she has known for years but there's some people there she doesn't know. She's drinking non-alcohlic drinks all night but one of them gets spiked while she's dancing. She doesn't feel well so she decides to get some fresh air, she then can't remember a thing, and all anyone else remembers is her leaving to get some fresh air. How the hell is any of this her fault?
I believe girls who get pregnant should be able to have the same rights as adults in the wrokplace who get pregnant. As has been said it isn't always their fault. If it was that girls were automatically expelled for getting pregnant then there is a danger that this would increase the amount of teenage pregnancies, because lets be honest about it about 60% of young people are just waiting for a chance to get out of school.
And another thing you haven't mentioned, what about the fathers of the foetus, are they expelled to, or this a move away from the Equal Oppurtunities females have been striving for for the past century?
Dude, if you think that everyone gets pregnant like that - because their drinks got spiked - then you're really delusional. Fact of the matter is...some of these girls dress s
lutty...they go to parties looking for trouble...and when they get pregnant, they moan and say they got r
aped, etc. What you said...is like this idealistic viewpoint on these pregnant girls. You think they're all innocent and that it's not their fault. But in most cases, it is their own doing. I mean, r
ape cases aren't even the main causes of teen-pregnancies. So why you're even bringing up the point I don't know. I mean, there will always be exceptions...and we're trying to focus on the majority here.
And thank you for saying that pregnant girls should have the same rights as an adult...after all, they've done an 'adult' thing. So I ask you this question. Do you see
adults going to school? I mean 30, 40 year olds? No. Because a
school is an institution for
children. Not
adults. Therefore, if you want to treat them like adults, then take them out of school, and put them in an adult learning facility/institution.
I get what your sayin, but what we also have to remember is that not too long ago most girls were married off by the time they were like 16 and had children. When and how did this change come about? I dunno...........
I jus think it's all slightly madness. These girls are being punnished enough without being taken away from their friends and what they've known for all of their lives. Think how scared you must be when you find out you're pregnant, you have to tell your parents/family/friends. People look at you on the street so disapprovingly. Some girls are rejected by their families, they hav eto live on their own. They worry about money and being able to cope and all of that. They don't need what is supposed to be a support net, torn from under them.
Enough said. Shouldn't be talking about things that we personally don'tn know about. Get a teenage mother here to tell you what it's like and what she thinks then start heving your debate innit, thats the right way.
Laters!
This isn't the 18th century. We cannot compare the status quo with what happened back then. And we have to remember that peer-pressure is rife. Therefore, in most probability, the reason why some of these girls get pregnant is that they they are hanging around with the wrong ppl. Therefore, taking them away from that environment is actually beneficial.
Secondly, if the girls are going to be rejected by their parents, then that is going to happen regardless if they stay in school. Because the reason why the parents reject their daughter is because they got themselves pregnant, and not because they got expelled. So that point pretty much falls flat.
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Expelling pregnant girls from school is a ridiculous notion. Just because they are young and pregnant, why should they be denied an education which might be the very thing that they need to support themselves and their child?
Also, this would lead to a girl having to choose either an abortion or her education- NOT ON.
Everyone has a right to an education. Whilst these girls are very young, a baby is a life, not a disease or a crime.
Girls who want to continue school if pregnant should be supported for their courage, not cast out.
I am not saying that every teenage girl should go get pregnant, but this is not the 1800s anymore.
And I've said again and again...there are alternatives. :hmm: This may not be the 1800s anymore, but there are things that we still cannot condone. I mean, teenage pregnancy should never be ... praised.
