-Luka
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Noes, because why should her personal life, have to somehow then be punished by her life at school?
Should pregnant girls be expelled from school?
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Noes, because why should her personal life, have to somehow then be punished by her life at school?
If they should be deemed as adults, then why treat them differently than adults? We don't fire adult women from their jobs when they get pregnant.
I still don't see what's so harmful about going to school.
This is outrageous. You make it sound as though getting pregnant is a criminal act. It is ok to get pregnant, and the government should never be able to punish you for doing so!
There's influence, but it's the opposite of what you're saying. The Girl From Ipanema is absolutely correct in pointing out that students who see a pregnant student walking the halls will think twice about having s3x. I remember hearing girls in High School talking about "the pregnant girl," and seeing a person like that every day really gave them a reality check. My friend became pregnant in High School; after she graduated, the school invited her back every year to talk about her difficulties to other students.
Again, you're making it sound like a crime! People are punished for crimes, not mistakes. When you make a mistake, you have to be accountable and deal with consequences. The consequences of having a baby while in High School are clear: your childhood is gone forever. You are no longer the most important thing in your life, your baby is.
Of course there's no guarantees, but school sure helps. I see no reason to close the doors on these young women at a time when they need the most help.
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iron maiden
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i say no....
Scary miss mary
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You're right. It's her decision to get laid. It's her decision to screw around, not use protection, and get pregnant. Therefore, she should suffer the consequences.
.........................A) maybe home schooling is better but that's up to them to decide not youB) in reference to your quote, people on this website have GOT to stop makign that assumptionNewsflash, not EVERY pregnant teenager is a lazy s.l.u.t who couldn't be bothered to use a condom.........................Some girls get raped.........................Others have s.e.x with a guy they genuinely care about but get pregnant due to bad luck and contraception not being infallible. It is SO judgemental to assume all teenage mothers deserve it.............................And honestly I think the ones that are just too lazy/stupid to use protection aare the kind who usually use the kid as an excuse to skive school anyways. If they are willing to sitll make a go of their education we should support that, not force them to be the sterotype single mother living off benefits in some dingy flat
.........................A) maybe home schooling is better but that's up to them to decide not youB) in reference to your quote, people on this website have GOT to stop makign that assumptionNewsflash, not EVERY pregnant teenager is a lazy s.l.u.t who couldn't be bothered to use a condom.........................Some girls get raped.........................Others have s.e.x with a guy they genuinely care about but get pregnant due to bad luck and contraception not being infallible. It is SO judgemental to assume all teenage mothers deserve it.............................And honestly I think the ones that are just too lazy/stupid to use protection aare the kind who usually use the kid as an excuse to skive school anyways. If they are willing to sitll make a go of their education we should support that, not force them to be the sterotype single mother living off benefits in some dingy flat
poisonXheart
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Very true. I think that way too many people are assuming that these prgnancies occur due to an outright lack of contraception. But it is also true that all forms of contraception can fail. Condoms, pill....they can both fail, and sometimes, albeit rarely, even in combination. Home schooling can be ok, I did my final two years of high school by home schooling and you really don't need a parent to help you, if you have half a brain you can do it all yourself, I did...and not cos I was pregnant either, btw lol. At the end of the day I think it can depend on the girl's school, and how comfortable she would feel and how strong her social circle (if any) at school is. Nothing is black and white.
It's truly frustrating to hold a view point, explain your view point and in every way justify said view point only for people to say "I understand where you're coming from but.." There is no buts. Countless times I have offered alternatives and explanations for my view points to balance out any sort of bias yet people ignore and manoeuvre around it in some sort of attempt to prove me wrong.
How much more obvious can it get.
It has nothing to do with taking away the rights of pregnant females.
It has everything to do with protecting the baby's life.
A school environment is bad for a pregnant teen girl. It's nothing like walking down the street. Its nothing like a working office environment or any other environment. You have young men and women bouncing around at a fast pace, you have people who at most of the time dont apply common sense.
Why take the risk.
Why should the school take the risk.
If people just cant seem to follow the logic, **** .. Let her go rally driving. :banghead:
How much more obvious can it get.
It has nothing to do with taking away the rights of pregnant females.
It has everything to do with protecting the baby's life.
A school environment is bad for a pregnant teen girl. It's nothing like walking down the street. Its nothing like a working office environment or any other environment. You have young men and women bouncing around at a fast pace, you have people who at most of the time dont apply common sense.
Why take the risk.
Why should the school take the risk.
If people just cant seem to follow the logic, **** .. Let her go rally driving. :banghead:
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Toenail.
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No.
***** have a right to be at school too.
***** have a right to be at school too.
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-sigh- 🙄AжзMann;1916810 said:
We understand where you're coming from, but you have yet to explain why going to school is so dangerous to a fetus!
Bouncing around at a fast pace? That's it? Are you talking about dance school or what?
What about little kids running around a department store while the mother is shopping for infant clothes? What about the family dog jumping all over her? You make it sound as if kids are going to tackle her in the hallway! The fact is, young people can be courteous and they will give her room.
I have never heard of a girl losing her fetus because of rambunctious teens at school, and a seriously doubt that you have either.
Sephiroth 666
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being retarded shouldnt be an excuse to throw away your intelligence :disgust:
:lol: It's truly enough to make you rip your hair out and laugh manically.
When I went to school people WERE rambunctious, people had little regard for where and how they bounced around. Time's might have changed but seriously I cant not see how it could have changed that much.
Kid's and teens, no matter which way you look at them ARE still Kids and teens.
That's because when I went to school none of the girl's fell pregnant. Thinking about it, yes I do know this for a fact.
Maybe we can take this in a new direction. Can anyone find the policy on pregnant females in school's? Are there any principals on forums? Maybe without our personal feelings on a debate and some cold fact's it might be a little better to understand my logic and justification.
Princess of Thieves
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Mmmk.
I read most of the posts but not every single one - so forgive me if I just blabber on about something that someone else has pointed out.
I'm utterly against it.
Like it's been said, a baby should not equal the loss of friends and the loss of an education. I was homeschooled for 2 years so I know about it - it costs money, it requires determination, there are distractions, it is alot harder than normal high-school, you don't have anything to look forward to, you don't have your friends supporting you, you're under constant pressure from the government to keep up with the work - Government check-ups and requirements etc etc etc. A free insitution? That would cost the Government alot more money, construction, books, equipment etc - why should they shell out afew thousand pounds because a school refuses to keep afew girls on due to falling pregnant when they can go on providing for the girls? The way I see it is this: Taking girls out of school will ruin everything, expecting females stay highly active for most of the pregnancy, taking them away from friends will upset them, putting them into new surroundings will cause stress. Not all schools are death traps - many are improoving no end in so many ways. What's all this about "She had unprotected sex, it's her fault!!" BULLSHIT!! A friend of mine fell pregnant about a month ago - she used protection and she's still in school. So don't go around assuming that all girls who fall pregnant do so because they didn't use protection because most do.
What if they do get thrown out by their parents, too? Taking them away from friends in school is just going to add onto the stress and pain. The girl would feel rejected by the world, cast aside by those she trusted.
Alot of the time it is her fault that she got pregnant but she should never be punished for what is natural. Because reproduction and sex are just instinctive. We are animals like anything else. You can't give the choice of "Instincts or a stress free education? Eh? Which one then? EH EH EH???"
Further more - If you're saying that she should be placed into an adult education system then bang: She is only deemed a child by law; Not nature. Sooooo...realy, the true time any of us become adult is when we are able to reproduce - making most people over the age of 14 adults in theirown natural right...so are we to take everybody who has passed puberty out of school and place them into adult institutions? Because that's what you basicly stated with your adult comment.
I read most of the posts but not every single one - so forgive me if I just blabber on about something that someone else has pointed out.
I'm utterly against it.
Like it's been said, a baby should not equal the loss of friends and the loss of an education. I was homeschooled for 2 years so I know about it - it costs money, it requires determination, there are distractions, it is alot harder than normal high-school, you don't have anything to look forward to, you don't have your friends supporting you, you're under constant pressure from the government to keep up with the work - Government check-ups and requirements etc etc etc. A free insitution? That would cost the Government alot more money, construction, books, equipment etc - why should they shell out afew thousand pounds because a school refuses to keep afew girls on due to falling pregnant when they can go on providing for the girls? The way I see it is this: Taking girls out of school will ruin everything, expecting females stay highly active for most of the pregnancy, taking them away from friends will upset them, putting them into new surroundings will cause stress. Not all schools are death traps - many are improoving no end in so many ways. What's all this about "She had unprotected sex, it's her fault!!" BULLSHIT!! A friend of mine fell pregnant about a month ago - she used protection and she's still in school. So don't go around assuming that all girls who fall pregnant do so because they didn't use protection because most do.
What if they do get thrown out by their parents, too? Taking them away from friends in school is just going to add onto the stress and pain. The girl would feel rejected by the world, cast aside by those she trusted.
Alot of the time it is her fault that she got pregnant but she should never be punished for what is natural. Because reproduction and sex are just instinctive. We are animals like anything else. You can't give the choice of "Instincts or a stress free education? Eh? Which one then? EH EH EH???"
Further more - If you're saying that she should be placed into an adult education system then bang: She is only deemed a child by law; Not nature. Sooooo...realy, the true time any of us become adult is when we are able to reproduce - making most people over the age of 14 adults in theirown natural right...so are we to take everybody who has passed puberty out of school and place them into adult institutions? Because that's what you basicly stated with your adult comment.
I disagree. They are young adults, hence the pregnancies. And to illustrate ...AжзMann;1916940 said:
I think the policies vary depending on the country/region, school system, and individual school.AжзMann;1916940 said:
Pregnant teens were allowed to attend my High School. We always gave them plenty of room to move about, were always concerned for their well-being, and helped them in any way we could. I was often surprised to see even the most rude and ignorant students helping them.
Today, the schools in my city have several pregnant girls attending (alas, too many), but there has never been an incident of miscarriage in the school setting, and if there were I'm certain the policy would be reviewed.
I'm sure that sometime, somewhere, the incidents you're alluding to have taken place, but I cannot say I have ever heard of one; which leads me to conclude that a school environment is no more dangerous than any other setting, and may even be safer.
Cherries in the snow
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No, in cases of r.ape and date r.ape it is not a girl's fault. That is the definition of r.ape, it means against her will. And girls acting or dressing sexy isn't a free-for-all for a guy to pin a girl down and fukk her. If you force a girl to fukk you, it's your fault, not hers.
The government already provides free education. Poor people don't have money for other alternatives. Even cheaper alternatives. And even if one isn't poor, they're entitled to a public education in the same school as their peers.
I agree with whoever said that pregnant girls tend to give girls a reality check, not influence us to go out and get pregnant, :lol: , wtf, who sees a pregnant girl and wants to get pregnant? I'm sorry Fearless Virgin, that made no sense. I know what you're saying, but no, I'm not buying it.
For whoever said people bounce at schools, I never saw that shlt in school. I don't hear of too many pregnant girls losing their unborn children in public school from being bounced on. Can we see the link where pregnant girls have lost the baby from being exposed to rambunctious teens?
Voice, same here. There were pregnant girls in my high school too. I don't recall any of them endangered because of their bouncy peers. :lol:
Bottom line, it's not the government's job to severly punish pregnant school girls. I agree with whoever said the pregnancy itself IS dealing with the consequences. I've never been pregnant but it doesn't look like a walk in the park.
The government already provides free education. Poor people don't have money for other alternatives. Even cheaper alternatives. And even if one isn't poor, they're entitled to a public education in the same school as their peers.
I agree with whoever said that pregnant girls tend to give girls a reality check, not influence us to go out and get pregnant, :lol: , wtf, who sees a pregnant girl and wants to get pregnant? I'm sorry Fearless Virgin, that made no sense. I know what you're saying, but no, I'm not buying it.
For whoever said people bounce at schools, I never saw that shlt in school. I don't hear of too many pregnant girls losing their unborn children in public school from being bounced on. Can we see the link where pregnant girls have lost the baby from being exposed to rambunctious teens?
Voice, same here. There were pregnant girls in my high school too. I don't recall any of them endangered because of their bouncy peers. :lol:
Bottom line, it's not the government's job to severly punish pregnant school girls. I agree with whoever said the pregnancy itself IS dealing with the consequences. I've never been pregnant but it doesn't look like a walk in the park.
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AжзMann;1917695 said:
Well, some people still have their boyfriend or whoever got them pregnant.
Otherwise, I'm sure most parents or grandparents would be willing to look after their grandchild while you're out working for a few hours.
We had a pregnant girl in our school who spent 4 years there, roughly, then on the 5th year when her exams were... she got pregnant and didn't take them (I think)... way to go. >_>;
Otherwise, I'm sure most parents or grandparents would be willing to look after their grandchild while you're out working for a few hours.
We had a pregnant girl in our school who spent 4 years there, roughly, then on the 5th year when her exams were... she got pregnant and didn't take them (I think)... way to go. >_>;
Because school and work are different. Their policies regarding pregnancies are different.
so you're saying we should all go and get pregnant, because it is ok to do so?
Let me put it to you this way. Some might be positively influenced, BUT some may not. Fact of the matter is, there WILL be girls who will see them as 'role models' and will thus try to imitate them. So we have to take them into consideration. The only way to prevent other girls from copying the 'wrong sort of people' is to remove the 'wrong sort of people' from schools.
Well, judging from the status quo, it is quite obvious that the consequences we have now aren't enough to stop these teens from having ***. That's why we have to have harsher 'consequences'.
I think you've missed the point. Your side said that the reason why pregnant girls should stay in school is because they can get a good education and that they will become successful. So then I said that that point is invalid because a school doesn't guarentee a job etc...so there really isn't a point to force them to go back to school because it won't benefit them in any way. If the girls are determined, then they can be successful no matter what.
Can you please quote the part where I said EVERY girl is a lazy ****? I always make sure I say 'probably' or 'in SOME cases'. :hmm: And I think you are taking this 'Choice' thing way out of proportion. Yes, we have rights, but there are boundaries. We cannot do whatever we want just because it is our right to do so. Therefore, really...that point...I really don't get it.
Also, you are trying to put across that rape is the main cause of teen pregnancy, where in fact, it is not. It only constitute a small percentage, and I believe I've stated that before.
Um...well...there is something called ABSTAINING. Seriously, I've never heard of a girl falling pregnant by abstaining from sex.
Do you see 9month pregnant girls going shopping every day? No, because they know they might hurt their baby, that's why they stay home during the late stages of their pregnancies.
Also, we can never predict what might or might not happen. Therefore, we should expect the unexpected. You might think nothing bad will happen, but accidents always happen. There's a first time for everything, so even though you might not have heard a girl losing her baby...that doesn't mean it can't happen.
your mother's a woman. :hmm:
I've answered all of those points actually.
I've answered that too. If they DO get thrown out, it will be because of the fact that they are pregnant...not necessarily because they gt expelled.
😵 So we should all go get laid? Seriously...
Umm...I didn't say they ARE adults. I said they should be TREATED like adults. There's a difference.
It might not be her fault, but then again, we have to keep in mind that rape isn't the main cause of teen pregnancies. Therefore, you can't really use that to support your arguement if 9/10 pregnancies aren't rape-related, but rather choice-related.
So the government can provide the pregnant teens with free edu. as well. 😵 I mean, at the end, the cost would still be the same.
Let me give you an example.
You have this extremely popular girl who has parties every weekend where they get laid. One day, she falls pregnant at one of her parties. She has her baby and comes back to school. And what do you know? Because she's so popular, she has somehow made this ordeal into something glamourous. So the next time she has her party, lots of other girls go...they get pressured into having ***, they fall pregnant.
That was an example hun. you cannot deny the fact that in certain schools, the environment aren't exactly safe.
The times have changed.
IT's not your job to say what the government's job is. 😱k:
Princess of Thieves
Care.
I know. I never said it was because of getting expelled. I'm pointing out that expelling the girls is going to add onto their problems - making things all the more difficult and you know how some people can react to situations like this - The combination of being expelled, thrown out, with no qualifications to get a job to feed the coming child could result in the suicide of a pregnant female. Because that stuff happens!
Combination of hormones and instinct - it can be hard to overcome. But basicly the only reason we are on this earth it to "mate" just because we walk on 2 legs dosn't change that fact. No matter what you or anybody else says. But that's a whole new detabe in it's self.
I didn't say you said they WERE adults - I pointed out that you said they should be treated as such - which makes my comment about all humans that have gone through puberty remaining valid - if they should be treated like adults then so should all "children" over the age of 14, no?
Is it your's?