There is no LGB without the T
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ban active
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Thank you for you input ma'am noted thrown in the bin and dismissed
ban active
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I would say I have bigger balls than a lot around here
RandomGuyUK
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-Luka
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What do you expect when you made an assumption by calling her male and asking her if she has ever “experienced a period”, to which you then answered your own assumption, when she is a biological female!?
Your misunderstanding caused it, she responded, and she’s the rude one? Phuck off
RandomGuyUK
Silver Member
So the reply "Thank you for you input ma'am noted thrown in the bin and dismissed" is appropriate?
Sure, If you like.
Only women can experience 'periods'. That is biological reality.
I'm sorry if you find that difficult to understand.
dont twist my words. I was commenting in general. Not specifically to 'ban active'.
Merely, simply, a general comment.
Oh, I did comment to ban active when they started getting rude. Obviously.
RandomGuyUK
Silver Member
I didnt say any of those things you are claiming I said.
It was a general point, not directed towards anyone specifically.
BUT - okok. My bad. its all our misunderstandings. 'K?
We all misunderstood each other I think. ME, yes, and all of us.
I was trying to be nuanced and real, I guess.
I'm certainly not here to argue or have troublesome chats.
I just say thing how I see it.
@ban active I apologise if I hurt your feelings. That was not my intention.
But if you say you throw my input in the bin and dismissed - seriously - How do you expect me to react?
Lets be kind again. Please. I'll try and be understanding with ban active, albeit he she, they, whatever, has mostly been rude to me.
RandomGuyUK
Silver Member
dammit - edit
@ban active was calling other people's views "Rubbish".
So I responded in kind.
BUT - okok. My bad. its all our misunderstandings. 'K? - Hopefully.
We all misunderstood each other I think. ME, yes, true, and all of us.
(well, i did not misunderstand what banactive said about the catholic church and pedophila; your generalisations, and calling all religion rubbish. [which it may be, but you aren't exactly polite nor caring about others' beliefs].
I was rude myself, though, true.
I'm certainly not here to argue or have troublesome chats.
I just say things how I see them.
@ban active I apologise if I hurt your feelings. That was not my intention.
But if you say you throw my input in the bin and dismissed - seriously - How do you expect me to react?
Lets be kind again. Please. I'll try and be understanding with ban active, albeit he she, they, whatever, has mostly been rude to me.
@ban active was calling other people's views "Rubbish".
So I responded in kind.
BUT - okok. My bad. its all our misunderstandings. 'K? - Hopefully.
We all misunderstood each other I think. ME, yes, true, and all of us.
(well, i did not misunderstand what banactive said about the catholic church and pedophila; your generalisations, and calling all religion rubbish. [which it may be, but you aren't exactly polite nor caring about others' beliefs].
I was rude myself, though, true.
I'm certainly not here to argue or have troublesome chats.
I just say things how I see them.
@ban active I apologise if I hurt your feelings. That was not my intention.
But if you say you throw my input in the bin and dismissed - seriously - How do you expect me to react?
Lets be kind again. Please. I'll try and be understanding with ban active, albeit he she, they, whatever, has mostly been rude to me.
RandomGuyUK
Silver Member
I see I am in the wrong here. So sorry. forget it all? please delete my last couple of posts
@ban active sorry, no offence intended, I was not insulting YOU personally
i just got annoyed when you dismissed others views as 'rubbish'
Also got annyoyed because when i made a friendly comment about Green Tea, in the other chat, you needlessly insulted me.
HalfHand
New Member
The trans community only makes up like 0.4% of the entire population so why people hate on them, you would think they make up 50% of the population the way people act. But anything different is like that anyway take gays, lesbians or mexicans like me. everything is hated at first and kind of more accepted in the future. The world is **** anyway so to me just enjoy yourself and stop caring about how morons view you or think of you. I used to be miserable, that was because I cared way too much about how the world was, I nor anybody can change it, so I just live my best life, worry about my family and myself. Everybody elses problems is theirs not your own so it shouldn't bother you either.
ban active
Gold Member
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain
For the record you did not hurt my feelings, you are neither relevant or have any input into my life. You are a tool yes a victim yes and still trying to turn this around on me for being rude. As @-Luka said your judgement was not warranted or your comments on the LGBT and trans community is in poor form.
Now kindly stop interacting with me as I with you - you made a judgement I was trans female then preceded to ask if I had my period if I used pronouns and I was hurt via your text.
Please show maturity and move on and let the adults chat about the under recognized in our society.
Green Tea? dismissed again
RandomGuyUK
Silver Member
My comment about biological women experiencing periods - and males having no idea what that is like - was not directed against you personally. --- You say "You are a tool yes a victim yes"; and again, you resort to rude insults. I guess that is your choice to behave like that.
ban active
Gold Member
RandomGuyUK
Silver Member
It's all good. I will stop interacting with you if you dont want.
no worries.
PS - I like the Mark Twain quote.
D
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LGB is sexuality, T is gender identity, Q is questioning their sexuality or gender identity, as for the + I'm not sure what that means, I doubt you can define what the + means in LGBTQ+? 'Gender has always been tied into the LGB community' yes because gender and sex are intertwined, in tandem, everyone in the LGB community has a gender whether you like it or not. Being labelled as 'cisgender' is an insult also you and many on the left use the words 'transphobic' as a slur but your fav is using the word 'bigot' as a slur against people who convey a different view than your own.As many of you may have noticed, there's currently a movement for "LGB without the T" - and I just wanted to make a post to say that there are so many of us on this site alone who will continue to be an ally for the trans community.
I also wanted to explain why there cannot be an LGB without the T.
- Gender has always been tied into the LGB community. Insults have always leant into misogyny and cross-gender behaviours. Slurs towards the gay community are almost always tied into gay men not being seen as "masculine" and lesbians being seen as TOO masculine. Flamboyancy, butchness. The slurs focus on the non-conformity of our peers to their given gender. Fairy, Tom-Boy. And much, much worse slurs.
- The "It's a choice" and "it's an abomination" shouts from anti-trans movements are much the same as they were when Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual communities were fighting for their own rights. Rights they still find themselves fighting in many ways, but have moved so far on from in others. It is a recycled argument now that our LGB peers aren't as easily bullied into silence and hiding. The focus has now shifted to the T community.
- The queer community has always played with the standards of gender and embraced gender-bending. Think drag queens, drag kings, and mannerisms of those who identify as "masc" or "twink" how plenty of the gay male community with converse and refer to each other as "she" how lesbians have adopted the use of "boi"
- The trans community fought alongside our LGB in riots even pre-dating Stonewall. Marsha P. Johnson, Sylvia Rivera, and Stormé DeLarverie are all instrumental figures in the Stonewall riots of 1969.
"The trans movement has needed to adopt this same position [it's not a choice] to receive validity, but a new generation of young nonbinary/gender-fluid people are leading us away from that. In that, transgender is now a phenomenal umbrella community and a huge opportunity for all of us to be part of. I don’t have to choose who I am, I can choose who I want to be. I love that. We’re here, we’re queer, get used to it."
So, I, for one, won't be partaking in "LGB without the T" I'll instead continue to be an ally and an ear for every one of my peers, and I know there are very many others who are also here to not only support, but welcome the T in LGBT.
Those words are used so often by LGBT people it's lost it's meaning. It's akin to how the F word was used to refer to gay people or the N word was used to refer to black people. You use the word transphobic, bigot as a slur and you know you do. Example ' women should have single sex spaces, children cannot consent to puberty blockers and body mutilation, men shouldn't be in women's sports' .
Many on the left will scream transphobe bigot! to try and stifle speech and vilify people who they disagree with.
Being trans is a choice. If it wasn't then de transitioners would not exist. 'The queer community has always played with the standards of gender and embraced gender bending ' yeah and before gender identity ideology took hold of our institutions, kids who didn't conform to gender stereotypes i.e boys liking things typically associated with girls were not told they were 'born in the wrong body' and need scalpels, drugs and to become lifelong customers of big pharma so they can 'be who they are' The ideology you advocate for is based on stereotypes and lies.
What rights do you think LGB people don't have? What exactly are trans rights, what rights do trans people think they don't have and what rights do they want? The right to force others into believing in what they do, usurping women's rights because of their feelings, being in women's sports, changing areas etc, indoctrinating children with their ideology, demanding compelled speech, getting people fired, cancelled for not using their pro nouns etc yeah that's not human rights it's tyranny.
No one says trans people shouldn't 'exist' the problem is what some in that 'community' are doing. What are they doing? See above.
I probably won't reply to any comments here as I sent chat master a pm requesting my account be deleted. If and it's a very big if, someone replies with a rational counter argument without resorting to insults and asserting that I have a 'phobia' then I may reply.
Louize
Gold Member
So why reply to someone who won't be around to actually discuss anything because they've requested their account be deleted?
Out of hundreds of threads, this is the only one you choose to comment on. Suspicious.
If you ever decide to come back and discuss properly and without the "oh I'm deleting" excuse, maybe I'll engage beyond calling out the very odd behaviour of this being your only post.
Out of hundreds of threads, this is the only one you choose to comment on. Suspicious.
If you ever decide to come back and discuss properly and without the "oh I'm deleting" excuse, maybe I'll engage beyond calling out the very odd behaviour of this being your only post.
If I ever get into these debates, I just go with “brainless obsessive moron with nothing better to do.” If someone’s fragile enough to treat that as a slur, that’s their insecurity talking. The reality is, brainless obsessive morons don’t wake up one morning and choose it — it’s a feeling that grows inside them.
They start out perfectly average, then their lack of purpose rots into obsession, and their stupidity calcifies until it defines them.
Some sulk quietly in their own irrelevance, others broadcast it loud enough for everyone to suffer. A rare few manage to claw their way into therapy and patch together something resembling a life, but most just keep circling the same pathetic drain, convinced their obsession matters to anyone but themselves.
Perhaps the brainless obsessive morons’ obsessions with trans people is because they have parallels with the way they grow and mature, the difference being that trans people live their lives fairly quietly and deal with any issues they have whereas the brainless morons with nothing better to do get more brainless, more moronic, more obsessive, and they end up bitter braindead morons.
No reply necessary.
RandomGuyUK
Silver Member
deleted comment. life. difficult for everyone.
RandomGuyUK
Silver Member
quick question - where do we draw the line?
i agree we should be kind to people with issues - eg trans -, but we should also respect reality.
I respect my mother for her feminism in the 60s, 70s.
Men and women are fundamentally different.
We cannot change our genitals. that is impossible.
i think it is an issue because some people in our societies are claiming that we can change genders if we want.
That is a nonsensical idea.
And some other people disagree with that idea. So, are people 'bigots', or brainless obsessive morons? if they disagree, or get affronted by that idea?
um I agree, not a particularly fun debate to get into , in general.