Female UM?

Louize

Louize

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I made a point in another thread that sometimes, people prefer speaking to a particular gender in regards to issues.

Could we consider getting a female UM for this reason?

A woman reporting sexual harassment might not want to deal with a male, for example. On the other foot, a male might not want to speak to a female... or maybe he does want to speak to a female over more sensitive issues that wouldn't be deemed masculine or something. It could also help to have someone see something from another viewpoint.

Not disregarding current UMs (Well, not the majority of them) being approachable or anything. Just think it might be a nice idea to have both a female and a male in a UM position for moments where this might be the case?

Thoughts?
 
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StubleU said:
how did this conversation become the reverse of every other conversation because he's trying to flex his woke
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He's not, he's trying and failing to make me look stupid... Whilst again making himself look desperate.

I used to mod years ago, CM is male. Always has been male. Are you calling CM female? Also, you're literally arguing having a female on your team wouldn't be a good thing to help people feel comfortable.

Are you really doing this publicly and giving us all more ammo about how you are dangerous to people with your own agenda? Just in some needy desire to try to belittle me, and even now failing.. You're honestly making yourself look worse with this argument and proving my point that we need a female UM by trying to make me feel uncomfortable. I don't, btw. I'm just even more convinced that you're a scumbag by your posts in this thread. You cannot be taken seriously.
 
Soapie said:
Well, usually when getting to know people they will tell you that. And if someone is gender fluid, in which it changes from time to time to suit how they are currently feeling. Most of them let it be known which one is currently... "active".

I knew someone who would simply put a little message on their profile on discord to say.

(Edit: altho, theirs wasn't for gender related, it was something else which I wont get into for privacy, but same thing can and has been done)
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that's a good point I never knew that. Still, this seems to be a lot of bluster to manifacture gender representation in OP- specifically female. (id say the same if it was revered btw)

Im curious though, assuming a trans (of any kind) was a staff member- and a user objected to them handling an issue, (on any grounds) then what?

With 20-30 regular forums users, it might just be easier to make them all staff👽
 
H.R. PufnStuf said:
that's a good point I never knew that. Still, this seems to be a lot of bluster to manifacture gender representation in OP- specifically female. (id say the same if it was revered btw)

Im curious though, assuming a trans (of any kind) was a staff member- and a user objected to them handling an issue, (on any grounds) then what?
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I'd assume they were more capable than you and were following actual rules not their made up rules? If so, they could request speaking to another UM and the trans UM could pass it over. Just like I can request I deal with @Apollo instead of you should I want to query something or appeal something.

Having a female on the team makes sense. Everyone here knows it does. Your hatred of me for showing you up is really getting to you, huh?

As I said... You're just proving the exact reason we should have a female UM right here.
 
H.R. PufnStuf said:
that's a good point I never knew that. Still, this seems to be a lot of bluster to manifacture gender representation in OP- specifically female. (id say the same if it was revered btw)

Im curious though, assuming a trans (of any kind) was a staff member- and a user objected to them handling an issue, (on any grounds) then what?
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Could be. Honestly don't know, just think it's not a terrible idea as a whole.

And if someone objected to have a trans person deal with their issues since they aren't comfortable sharing with them? Personally, that's fine 🤷‍♀️. As long as the request to not speak to them is handled polietly, which would be the same for anyone in the position, man woman or somewhere in between, there shouldn't be a problem. (And this is coming from someone who is trans. Obvisouly I doubt many share the same opinion, but eh)
 
Soapie said:
A gotcha maybe? Genuine ask? I have no idea. But I feel I answered well enough
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You did. Because even now, as I said, I could request speaking to a different UM as is. The only issue as you said would be if it isn't done respectfully... The fact is, there are definitely people who feel more comfortable talking to a feminine presence (is that a better phrasing?) than a masculine one. Trauma, religion are just two of the reasons.
 
Louize said:
You did. Because even now, as I said, I could request speaking to a different UM as is. The only issue as you said would be if it isn't done respectfully... The fact is, there are definitely people who feel more comfortable talking to a feminine presence (is that a better phrasing?) than a masculine one. Trauma, religion are just two of the reasons.
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That's pretty much the issue with most things lol. Doing it polietly. Say I didn't wanna talk to a trans um, I wouldn't turn around and say "oh god no, feck off, I wouldn't want to speak to something like you"... thats being a penis. Id just polietly decline and ask if anyone else is around

And of course the said um wouldn't then turn around and cry transphobia, cause this is something that would be agreed on beforehand, thick skin n all that.

And yeah, there is definitely people out there who would prefer a different... presence lol, and maybe offering that isn't a bad idea. Well, not maybe lol, it's a good idea

Edit: swearing 🫢
 
Inkandtatts said:
I know you’re addressing Soapie but what’s the reasoning behind the question? Seems a bit of an odd thing to ask
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OP has suggested appointing people specifically based on gender, (Soapie replied)it seems to me if one supports the OP premise, the question logically flows-

If it seems less "odd" feel free to reverse the roles, or feel free to interpret it as "any gender"

so my intent was to see what others thought about the effects of filling positions specifically on genders without considering possible consequences, since Soapie replied to me and was one of the few not flinging insults or derailing, I chose to engage.
 
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