"To Catch a Predator" sting interrupted by Staff

[Summerishere]

The staff on the boys' chat are known for their quick response in enforcing rules, but ONLY AFTER someone has been abused, hurt, or virtually . Motivated by this, I took it upon myself to proactively identify and report predators to ensure they face appropriate execution BEFORE they're allowed to hurt someone. However, during a recent undercover operation, this "STAFF MEMBER" inadvertently compromised my identity, resulting in this predator being scared off!

This incident raises questions: Was this an attempt to protect predators within the chat? Or was it to conceal the staff's awareness of pedophillic activities that goes on in PMs? Regardless of the intention, undermining the efforts of individuals genuinely striving to improve the community does not reflect well on the moderation team.

This is NOT a complaint. But simply an observation that I wanted to start a discussion about.

 

[Inkandtatts]

@NorCal a customer for you

This incident raises questions: Was this an attempt to protect predators within the chat? Or was it to conceal the staff's awareness of pedophillic activities that goes on in PMs? Regardless of the intention, undermining the efforts of individuals genuinely striving to improve the community does not reflect well on the moderation team.

Sounds more like the staff taking action against your pedophillic activities. How are the staff to know you're genuinely doing what you say you're doing - which isn't allowed anyway - and not a paedophile yourself? (Rhetorical question)

 

[Summerishere]

@NorCal a customer for you


Sounds more like the staff taking action against your pedophillic activities. How are the staff to know you're genuinely doing what you say you're doing - which isn't allowed anyway - and not a paedophile yourself? (Rhetorical question)

Are you delusional? Why would "a pedophile" be interested in targeting someone who's over 50 years old? This sounds like you're trying to divert the issue and blame the victim, which only emphasizes my argument further. It suggests that the staff could be hiding something or not being completely transparent about whats going on behind the scenes.

 

[Inkandtatts]

Are you delusional? Why would "a pedophile" be interested in targeting someone who's over 50 years old? This sounds like you're trying to divert the issue and blame the victim, which only emphasizes my argument further. It suggests that the staff could be hiding something or not being completely transparent about whats going on behind the scenes.

Actually, no. It could be that you're a pedophile trying to talk to other pedophiles about pedophiliac activities under the guise of "undercover" - or worse pretending to be a child which in itself is pedophiliac - so perhaps you're the delusional one here. I'm not saying that's what you are doing but it's a reasonable interpretation for staff to make. (Edit: Mistyped and corrected a word)

Nobody is victim blaming. There is no victim in what you claim to be doing.

 

[Summerishere]

Actually, no. It could be that you're a pedophile trying to talk to other pedophiles about pedophiliac activities under the guise of "undercover" - or worse pretending to be a child which in itself is pedophiliac - so perhaps you're the delusional one here. I'm not saying that's what you are doing but it's a reasonable interpretation for staff to make. (Edit: Mistyped and corrected a word)

Nobody is victim blaming. There is no victim in what you claim to be doing.

You must be attempting to troll me? First off, I'm 17. If you doubt that, PM me and I'll send you my socials, id, or whatever proof you need. Secondly, the notion that a **** would seek out conversations with another ****, and then flee when a "staff member" drops my name, is beyond irrational. Third your arugment lacks basic logic... why would a **** go undercover as a child to talk to another **** about doing **** activities??

NO VICTIM? The victims are the potential minors that could be hurt by allowing this behavior to continue. I am now starting to suspect that you, yourself might be a pedophile... I'm not saying that you are but it's a reasonable interpretation for users to make.

 

[Soapie]

And this is exactly why it's advise that people dont attempt to conduct these types of investigations yourself, since If we were to allow some people to break certain rules, but not others, not exactly fair is it.

In future, rather than attempting to make a "do mods protect pedos" post, maybe just stick to reporting anything you see and it will be dealt with given enough evidence to do so. That way, no one is "compromising identities"


@NorCal

 

[NorCal]

Which one of your 5 accounts of all different ages are you speaking for

 

[Summerishere]

And this is exactly why it's advise that people dont attempt to conduct these types of investigations yourself, since If we were to allow some people to break certain rules, but not others, not exactly fair is it.

In future, rather than attempting to make a "do mods protect pedos" post, maybe just stick to reporting anything you see and it will be dealt with given enough evidence to do so. That way, no one is "compromising identities"


@NorCal

So I agree with this 100%. However I was recently in situation that was beyond fucked up. A 60-year-old known **** decides I'm his next target, hitting me up in PMs to join him for a "fun" session on Skype after calling me cute. Disturbing, right? I do the sensible thing and what all mods ask us to do - report him, even took a screenshot to get this guy done for. And what happens? I'm told there's not enough "evidence" for anything more than a laughable 2-hour timeout for him and that a “fun Skype session” with a minor at the geriatric age of 60 could be harmless and innocent. So I yes, I was infuriated by that and decided to take things in my own hands and obtain the “EVIDENCE” needed to for you awesome mods to do serve the right amount of justice to people like this.

This guy's a known creep, he hangs out in the chatroom for 9-10 hours a day, his friends list basically a lineup of potential victims with no one over the age of 14, and all he gets is a tap on the wrist? What's it gonna take? I get hit with a 24-hour kick for a joke, and this ped roams free? The system is NOT broken, but the confines that limits it are. It's clear that just hitting the report button isn't enough with these seasoned creeps.

SO enough with this "just report and we'll handle it if there's enough evidence" nonsense. It's clear as day that these peds know exactly how to play this sick game, slipping through the cracks, because he’s been doing this for nearly 8 years. I'm beyond fed up with this weak response system that lets peds prey on whomever they want. So, it's time to collect irrefutable evidence that even the most oblivious staff members can't just shrug off or “misinterpret”. There are hundreds of user complaints screaming about mods who seemingly sit on their hands when it comes to situations like this. JUST LOOK AT THE RECENT FORUM POST TITLES in boy chat. BUT we simplyCANNOT just put the blame on mods, given the scraps of info they have to work with. So to anyone that actual hates this type of behavior you too need to step in and help bridge this gaping hole.

 

[Summerishere]

Which one of your 5 accounts of all different ages are you speaking for

I will answer this in PM becuase unlike SOME STAFF, why would I expose the tools using to help you keep the room safer and do your job better.

 

[Bread.]

I mean you're not wrong in the sense that something should be done about him but you are overlooking what CAN be done (the mods are instructed to be done).

Also how do you get hit with a 24hour kick when Max room kick is like 2hrs.

 

[Soapie]

So I agree with this 100%. However I was recently in situation that was beyond fucked up. A 60-year-old known **** decides I'm his next target, hitting me up in PMs to join him for a "fun" session on Skype after calling me cute. Disturbing, right? I do the sensible thing and what all mods ask us to do - report him, even took a screenshot to get this guy done for. And what happens? I'm told there's not enough "evidence" for anything more than a laughable 2-hour timeout for him and that a “fun Skype session” with a minor at the geriatric age of 60 could be harmless and innocent. So I yes, I was infuriated by that and decided to take things in my own hands and obtain the “EVIDENCE” needed to for you awesome mods to do serve the right amount of justice to people like this.

This guy's a known creep, he hangs out in the chatroom for 9-10 hours a day, his friends list basically a lineup of potential victims with no one over the age of 14, and all he gets is a tap on the wrist? What's it gonna take? I get hit with a 24-hour kick for a joke, and this ped roams free? The system is NOT broken, but the confines that limits it are. It's clear that just hitting the report button isn't enough with these seasoned creeps.

SO enough with this "just report and we'll handle it if there's enough evidence" nonsense. It's clear as day that these peds know exactly how to play this sick game, slipping through the cracks, because he’s been doing this for nearly 8 years. I'm beyond fed up with this weak response system that lets peds prey on whomever they want. So, it's time to collect irrefutable evidence that even the most oblivious staff members can't just shrug off or “misinterpret”. There are hundreds of user complaints screaming about mods who seemingly sit on their hands when it comes to situations like this. JUST LOOK AT THE RECENT FORUM POST TITLES in boy chat. BUT we simplyCANNOT just put the blame on mods, given the scraps of info they have to work with. So to anyone that actual hates this type of behavior you too need to step in and help bridge this gaping hole.

If what your saying is true, that a 60 year old man was asking these things, knowing that you aren't of age, and was reported on site (not with ss, since those can be faked), then I see no reason as to why that would be ignored/ blown off.

Do you want to provide the username of this person so that we can keep a closer eye in future

 

[Bread.]

No one here is trying to be a FBI detective. If you were nearly virtually raped by a creepy man 4x your elder, maybe your blinders would fall off and you could potentially emphasize with the emotional damage that's caused, when someone experiences something like this.

The title of your thread indicates this is a sting operation.
iE an operation you are willingly participating in.

You are actively taking part in your emotional trauma by baiting yourself and putting yourself in these situations. You should block and report them. If they continue to contact you especially with pedophilic intent then contact law enforcement.

 

[Soapie]

Scratch that, this is that **** with kiwee isn't it

 

[Summerishere]

I mean you're not wrong in the sense that something should be done about him but you are overlooking what CAN be done (the mods are instructed to be done).

Also how do you get hit with a 24hour kick when Max room kick is like 2hrs.

In their eyes, something was already done about him. He was kicked for 2 hours...

Also, I'm not "overlooking what CAN be done" or the instructions given to the mods. I shifted responsibility away from them by saying what I said...

BUT we simplyCANNOT just put the blame on mods, given the scraps of info they have to work with.

Regarding this "Also how do you get hit with a 24hour kick when Max room kick is like 2hrs."

Last year, the mods implemented some specific rules targeting me. I must admit, the kick was somewhat warranted, but the severity? Questionable. This all happened when my trolling was at its peak, and I was dealing with alot of mental issues, but I've really dialed it back as of late.

 

[Summerishere]

Scratch that, this is that **** with kiwee isn't it

I'm trying not use specific names, but since the cat is out the bag. Indeed, it was Kiwee. After I raised the issue publicly in the main chat, I got bombarded with PMs from others who had experienced similar issues with him. If it helps, I can encourage them to come forward, but they're hesitant. In their view, why bother when there's never "enough evidence" for any action to be taken against him?

 

[Soapie]

I'm trying not use specific names, but since the cat is out the bag. Indeed, it was Kiwee. After I raised the issue publicly in the main chat, I got bombarded with PMs from others who had experienced similar issues with him. If it helps, I can encourage them to come forward, but they're hesitant. In their view, why bother when there's never "enough evidence" for any action to be taken against him?

Since you have them, and posted them on the chat, do you mind sharing the ss you took of the conversation?

 

[Summerishere]

Since you have them, and posted them on the chat, do you mind sharing the ss you took of the conversation?

So TWO mods already informed me, that actions has already taken against him. And how there wasn't "enough evidence" to warrant more than a 2-hour kick and that what he said could actuall be "harmless and innocent".

Well, here's some context for you all:

This "harmless" old man is the very predator I've been covertly trying to expose—a 60-year-old guy who spends his retirement lurking in boys' chats for 9-10 hours EVERY SINGLE DAY. Don't believe me? Go there anytime outside New Zealand's sleeping window, and HE WILL BE THERE! His friends list? A disturbing collection of kids, none older than 14. Tell me, how is that anything but alarming and downright predatory?

And here's the kciker: His defense to the mods about why he couldn't have sent those PMs? He claimed he had me on ignore that day! Yet, he interacts with me and quotes my messages in the main chat on a daily basis... Interesting to say the least.

 

[Bread.]

24hr kick must be brutal lol

 

[Bread.]

So TWO mods already informed me, that actions has already taken against him. And how there wasn't "enough evidence" to warrant more than a 2-hour kick and that what he said could actuall be "harmless and innocent".

Well, here's some context for you all:

This "harmless" old man is the very predator I've been covertly trying to expose—a 60-year-old guy who spends his retirement lurking in boys' chats for 9-10 hours EVERY SINGLE DAY. Don't believe me? Go there anytime outside New Zealand's sleeping window, and HE WILL BE THERE! His friends list? A disturbing collection of kids, none older than 14. Tell me, how is that anything but alarming and downright predatory?

And here's the kciker: His defense to the mods about why he couldn't have sent those PMs? He claimed he had me on ignore that day! Yet, he interacts with me and quotes my messages in the main chat on a daily basis... Interesting to say the least.

People can ignore/unignore freely. The best way to protect yourself against these stupid defenses is to use the report function under the top right setting icon. They will get flagged by the system and reviewed by a moderator. That way there is no claiming something did or didn't happen via screenshots.

The event will be logged.

 

[Summerishere]

People can ignore/unignore freely. The best way to protect yourself against these stupid defenses is to use the report function under the top right setting icon. They will get flagged by the system and reviewed by a moderator. That way there is no claiming something did or didn't happen via screenshots.

The event will be logged.

Agreed and Noted!

During that ordeal, I discovered that ignoring and then unignoring someone wipes the chat history. Is there a way to introduce a feature in Cody Chat's software that lets mods access chat history, even when it's been intentionally cleared by using the ignore function?

 

[Soapie]

Well judging by the date, I wouldn't have really been active. So I cant confirm or deny wether or not action was taken. And to my knowledge, we Don't have 24 hour kicks, so that must have been someone high high up, so yeah a 2 hour is all we could do.

Anyways, now that's been shown, on about the initial comment, about the investigations or what have, try to avoid it in future, as it can cause issues

 

[Summerishere]

Well judging by the date, I wouldn't have really been active. So I cant confirm or deny wether or not action was taken. And to my knowledge, we Don't have 24 hour kicks, so that must have been someone high high up, so yeah a 2 hour is all we could do.

Anyways, now that's been shown, on about the initial comment, about the investigations or what have, try to avoid it in future, as it can cause issues

@NorCal So did you break the rules when you kicked me for 24 hours last year? Sorry I didn't mean to expose you

 

[Bread.]

lol tf @last year

 

[Realxavier]

Summer you’re so full of shlt ur hair is turning brown. Your get caught tryna groom kids then run to find a fellow **** to call out and make ur self look better. Every single person in bc has seen your bs and half the people on CA all together. Like man give it the fuk up already @Simply Karina replied to you about gc so nice and proper bless her she has no clue the shlt u have said to soapie and other trans identifying people in bc and the weird sexual shlt u have tried to talk to minors about. Ur not a fukn minor we both know this because u have admitted to me but idrc about your bs identity breakdown or whatever tf your going through just end ur bs and chat respectfully or gtfo it’s simple.

 

[StarflowerChild]

I personally like the moderators here, they have always treated me with kindness when I have needed them. Thank You.

 

[Summerishere]

Summer you’re so full of shlt ur hair is turning brown...

So now you want to focus all your anger and attention on attacking me rather than zeroing in on the 60-year-old ped who I’ve been building a mountain of evidence against. And you have the nerve to think I’m doing all this to make myself look better than other pedos? WTF kind of logic is that? Reading that really pissed me off… so tonight I got time…

Let's get a few things straight:

First off. YES! I troll. It’s what I do in chat. My therapist says it stems from both a lack of attention from my childhood and a punching bag I use to let out pinned up anger from all the **** I’ve been through in my real life. And so yes I continue because those who don’t like it? ignore me and those that do? engage. But when it came to actually experiencing some old cook attempting to prey on me for his sexual pleasure. I’m as SERIOUS as it gets.

... Your get caught tryna groom kids then run to find a fellow **** to call out and make ur self look better. Every single person in bc has seen your bs and half the people on CA all together. Like man give it the fuk up already...

Second point, the whole grooming accusation must be a joke. Are you referring to that troll post from ages ago about self-harm wrist? Is that what your entire rant was based on? Come on. I've ONLY dated people older me, full stop. You can see my full dating history on IG. So show me one shred of real evidence, by all means I’m giving you permission to share for all to see —because it doesn't exist.

Every single person in bc has seen your bs and half the people on CA all together. Like man give it the fuk up already @Simply Karina replied to you about gc so nice and proper bless her she has no clue...

Third, Yes I agree with you. I’m infamously known around CA for my antics and trolling, but if you look... Everytime I'm trolling it has a satirical sarcastic humor tone around it. But on this matter, I'm not joking around. This is not a game. Do you see any indication of me taking this lightly? Do you want to see a copy of the police report I filed? Also @Simply Karina thank you for being nice even if I didn't deserve it.

... the shlt u have said to soapie and other trans identifying people in bc and the weird sexual shlt u have tried to talk to minors about...

Fourth, about @Soapie —yeah, I fucked up big time. And I hate myself for it everyday. I was dealing with a ton of my own issues, struggling with who I am, and yes, I got jealous. I've apologized to her. Everything I said was out of personal pain. She has the right to hate me forever. I'm sorry. I respect her and she is really an awesome person once I got to know her a little more.

And all weird sexual **** jokes to minors? They were in public chat. The “That was only tip, you haven’t even felt the girth of my argument yet” comment? YES that was sexual but I promise that was trolling banter, nothing more!

...Ur not a fukn minor we both know this because u have admitted to me but idrc about your bs identity breakdown or whatever tf your going through just end ur bs and chat respectfully or gtfo it’s simple.

Although I did tell you my age before.. and this is going to be a shocker for you.. IM NOT 80 FUCKING YEARS OLD. I was trolling and its still somewhat funny because you still believe it. However because of the gravity of the situation and that fact I’ve already filed a police report about this issue, that's public record I’m going to lay it all out for you. And I don’t care... I will just block the trolls and peds. I'm willing to video chat with you wherever, if you still doubt.

I'm sharing all this precisely because it's clear you're NOT treating this issue SERIOUSLY, all because you think I’m some 80 year old man? But what’s really disgusting if you haven’t said a word about this 60 year old ped even after seeing the mountain of evidence against him and after I told and showed you what he did to me. BUT YET you continue to ATTACK ME? That is FUCKING LUDICROUS!

But if you want to continuing attack me because you think I’m an special old troll going through an identity crisis? FINE
You want to continue hating me because I hurt one of your friends, when I myself was hurting inside? I UNDERSTAND
You don’t want to take this serious because you see me as the boy who cried wolf? I’M GIVING YOU EVERY OPENING TO SEE FOR YOURSELF

But letting a 60 year old ped who’s known for exploiting actual minors off the hook all just to take a personal jab at me because of what the troll **** I said to you and your friends in the past IS NOT OK. I’m sorry! but don’t let others suffer what I had to experience all because you want to settle a personal vendetta to get back at me. And I say it was personal becasue of your TONE, FRUSTRATION, and ANGER is fuming from your response at me. Trust me If you knew me IRL you would know my life is punishment enough and anything you could ever do or say to get back at me, is just a drop in the ocean. Please take this serious.

 

[Realxavier]

Wow um this actually seems sincere for once. I’m actually kinda beside myself right now. Well I mean I can def lighten up as for the 60 yo pedos we kick them as fast as they are reported or we find them u can see the non stop kicking and banning it’s all we do and you know very well I don’t like peds that’s my only mission in there. U really don’t need to post ur ID don’t think that’s a good idea urs or not.

@H.R. PufnStuf @Apollo @Ness_eb please remove his id and socials

 

[Apollo]

Posting socials and identification cards is NEVER ok. I’ve now removed them, if caught again you’ll be banned from forums.
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