Should Pornography Be ILLEGAL???? šŸ™ˆ

Should Pornography of any kind be made against the law???? šŸ™ˆ


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you keep saying you've provided studies but you haven't. you've provided news articles and podcasts that interpret studies and present what they say the outcomes of the studies are. and random quotes from articles that supposedly back up some of your claims. or bring up studies that have zero to do with the topic at hand.
 
Indeed. Joe Rogan is a source of cancer inducing anabolic steroids, not an actual source. His podcasts are more detrimental to your health than being exposed to asbestos and having to deal with the likes of Aussie_Pride from Singles Chat on a day to day basis.
 
you keep saying you've provided studies but you haven't. you've provided news articles and podcasts that interpret studies and present what they say the outcomes of the studies are. and random quotes from articles that supposedly back up some of your claims. or bring up studies that have zero to do with the topic at hand.

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It was never any government’s job to control what consenting adults do in their bedroom. No, it should not be illegal unless you’d like to move towards authoritarianism. What’s next? What more rights should we take away? I’m good on that. As a fully functioning adult you have the choice to not consume it and it’s your fault if you do and suffer the consequences. And parents should control what their kids are doing. Also if it was made illegal, people would still do it and it would become an industry full of crime, abuse, murder and theft. This is an obvious ā€œNoā€, it should never be made illegal.
 
I agree, bias was shown.

seizing on a typo isnt the best argument
Oh come on - that’s even more weak than Dhamer.
I posted this : Consider this criminologist "Violent porn can be ā€œa facilitator for one person, while having no effect on others," a 2017 Psychology Today article citing research by criminologist Eric Hickey states. "Still, the fact the certain serial murderers have insisted that pornography was a major factor in their killing young women and children cannot be ignored.'"

(ive added the underline and bold)

Dr. Eric Hickey is a senior core faculty member in Walden University’s Forensic Psychology doctoral program. His primary duties include serving on many dissertation committees, mentoring doctoral students, attending residencies, conducting forensic psychology Intensives, participating in webinars, and serving as an SME in program development.

He consults with private agencies and testifies as an expert witness in both criminal and civil cases involving sex crimes against children and adults, criminal paraphilia, stalking, homicide, domestic violence, offender psychology, victim-offender relationships, and serial crimes. Dr. Hickey assists local, state, and federal law enforcement in training and investigations as well as assisting in the review of cold case files.

His expertise is chronicled in over 50 television documentaries including appearances on History Channel, NPR, 20/20, A&E Bio, Oxygen, Reelz, GMA, CBC, TruTV, Discovery, TLC, Fox, Buzz Feed, and CNN. An international survey identified Dr. Hickey as one of the top 15 active forensic experts in the world.
 
The poll question was clear, even if flawed, but since the goalposts are moving continually not point in continuing to go in circles.
 
seizing on a typo isnt the best argument
I didn’t know it was a typo, and this bit you edited in 20 minutes after your post made me think you were agreeing on the bias point
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Ad hominem
This is a fallacy in which a claim is rejected on the basis of an aspect of someone's character, identity, motivations, or even the relationships they have with others.

Now you’ve confirmed it was a typo: they’re an anti-porn group. Of course it’s going to be biased. They’re hardly going to present studies that undermine their position. I think we agree on that.

Consider this criminologist "Violent porn can be ā€œa facilitator for one person, while having no effect on others,"
I considered it and all that quote does is prove that it’s the personal characteristics of the offender that makes them offend - not the porn. Perhaps you could confirm what the definition of ā€œviolent pornā€ is in that quote because if the porn was already illegal in the first place it has no relevance at all to the debate

Guess what comes up when you search ā€œviolent pornā€ on PH. I’ve tarnished my browsing history for you:

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"Still, the fact the certain serial murderers have insisted that pornography was a major factor in their killing young women and children cannot be ignored.'"
Just like the ones who say ā€œgod told me to do itā€ when murdering people. Perhaps God should he made illegal too, because the number of murderers that blamed God cannot be ignored. Or the ones who blame their victims for their crimes.

The poll question was clear, but since the goalposts are moving continually not point in continuing.
The only person that can move the goal posts is @babydolla and she hasn’t.

You've pivoted with your arguments in favour of making porn illegal. You went from a mild comment about violence and saying that porn encourages the abandonment of safe sex, to saying it should be illegal because it causes or partly contributed to murder, dismemberment, cannibalism, necrophilia and other nasty things - citing Dhamer and Bundy, to then citing a study on how 4 year olds behave when presented with toys.

I think everyone else has had a pretty consistent position
 
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i think the desire for sex in general insights lusts for murdering ppl in perverse ways, but not porn specifically šŸ’€

sex has been the inspiration behind violence for centuries, it's toppled entire nations; long before porn has ever existed, so violence isn't why porn is dangerous or harmful to the mind imo šŸµ

...ppl that suffer from pornography addictions, i feel like, are more of a danger to themselves than they are other people which makes it particularly serious...

what makes pornography dangerous to the mind is how it can / will effect someone's mental health, & overall well being, as well the way it could effect the people within' the inflicted's life...

i think legally banning it would make ppl become more proactive, & sexually active in a healthier way šŸ¤™šŸ¼

p.s; adult / gay / sex chat's numbers would vastly decrease if porn was made illegal, so im starting to think some of u has a stake in the legality of pornography 🧐
 
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what makes pornography dangerous to the mind is how it can / will effect someone's mental health, & overall well being, as well the way it could effect the people within' the inflicted's life;
I completely agree with this. People watching it can think they have to look a certain way, ā€œperformā€ in a certain way, have the same effect on their partner that’s depicted in porn, and for men give the impression that the average size is more like a footlong than the reality which is half that.

I don’t think that should be a reason for banning it though and for me it goes back to education and where people learn about sex from. I do think life pre-internet must have been better in that respect.
 
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i think the desire for sex in general insights lusts for murdering ppl in perverse ways, but not porn specifically šŸ’€

sex has been the inspiration behind violence for centuries, it's toppled entire nations; long before porn has ever existed, so violence isn't why porn is dangerous or harmful to the mind imo šŸµ

...ppl that suffer from pornography addictions, i feel like, are more of a danger to themselves than they are other people which makes it particularly serious...

what makes pornography dangerous to the mind is how it can / will effect someone's mental health, & overall well being, as well the way it could effect the people within' the inflicted's life...

i think legally banning it would make ppl become more proactive, & sexually active in a healthier way šŸ¤™šŸ¼

p.s; adult / gay / sex chat's numbers would vastly decrease if porn was made illegal, so im starting to think some of u has a stake in the legality of pornography 🧐
Driving cars are dangerous. Should we ban that too? Should we ban hiking mountains because that’s dangerous too? What about potential books that cause people to think outside the mainstream? It’s a dangerous road. I think you’re vastly underestimating how huge the human trafficking problem would skyrocket because of this ridiculous idea. Legal porn is relatively safe for the people involved, but the second it becomes illegal, well I’d be terrified for the hundreds of thousands of adults and even worse that would be kidnapped and forced to make illegal videos. It’s the same thing with marijuana. Just because it was illegal didn’t stop hundreds of millions of smoking it. And it won’t stop people from watching pornography. Whatever harm comes from people with no self control watching porn is not even close compared to the severe dangers involved with making it illegal.
 
Can I just add I've seen softcore porn movies that are shown after watershed hours that are less explicit than some music videos played on TV before watershed hours.

Also, you're all talking about violence against women. Some women enjoy rough sex, you do realise that, yes? Consent is key. Being educated enough to talk openly about sex with any partner you have and the education around setting boundaries and safety is what stops it being percieved as violence and makes it pleasure.

Also there's a real correlation between porn LESSENING sexual violence.
According to the Justice Department’s authoritative National Crime Victimization Survey, since 1995, the U.S. sexual assault rate has fallen 44 percent
The argument is that in teenagers (mostly male teenagers) the sexual violence reports have gone up. Early access to porn and a lack of education is to blame for boys thinking it's an expectation that a woman enjoys being choked. Not the porn film depicting it because some women DO enjoy being choked. Educate our youth on consent and reality. I'm sure you can ****** the quote and find the source.

Nancy Friday wrote whole books of women discussing their very debased, debaucherous fantasies in 1973 right through to the early 90s (and that was before porn was as mainstream) proving that these fantasies were there before porn, even for women, and that we now just have a visual for those who want to see it. The below quote is from her 1973 book 'My Secret Garden'
There is something quite secret about My Secret Garden. All Friday’s interviewees, who talk about fantasies ranging from being sex workers to being urinated on, talk anonymously. One interviewee explains how, when she has sex with her husband, her fantasy is imagining ā€œthe bed practically torn apart and us ending up on the floor wet and sticky and happyā€. The reality though is that, ā€œAll he’s really doing is lying on top of me and thrusting away

Back to violence and porn or sex work and take it even more historical...
What can be mentioned more sordid, more bereft of decency, or more full of turpitude than prostitutes, procurers, and the other pests of that sort? Remove prostitutes from human affairs, and you will unsettle everything because of lusts
386AD. Augaustine discusses prostitutes (let's assume female porn stars or women in porn in general are the equivalent, since HR has himself before called women on OF whores which some agreed with on here) and suggests they are in fact a necessary "evil" - which I guess is one way to view it... But he's basically suggesting that the sexual relief of men is paramount to them not being worse people... Thomas Aquinas also agrees with this notion in 'Summa Theologiae' for all you ones spouting religion.

... Isn't porn actually already just a safer, cheaper, more socially accepted version of visiting sex workers? Because prostitution is legal in many places, it is pimping and solicitation that isn't. And isn't prostitution one of the world's oldest professions?

I'll say it again. EDUCATION. IS. KEY.
 
The only person that can move the goal posts is @babydolla and she hasn’t.
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You mean it’s been being referenced incorrectly this entire time? šŸ¤“ I had no idea.
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sex has been the inspiration behind violence for centuries, it's toppled entire nations
America needs a break from toppling.

Guess we’ll have to ban sex now. 🄓
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