Clarity on consistency of moderation

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THE QUESTIONS I NEED ANSWERED ARE AT THE BOTTOM. PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC.
I posted previously about my profile pics being repeatedly removed. Quick recap: I had a holiday photo in a bra—not raunchy, just cleavage. No mod said anything while online, but the pic disappeared when they weren’t. After it kept happening, I complained and got kicked for complaining. I posted a forum about it and it turned out it was Leigh moderating incognito. She said on the forum she removed it and to stop reuploading the pic. I didn’t even know mods had incognito mode—she could have just messaged me when I complained about my pic disappearing. Again the pic wasn’t super suggestive but I figured it had something to do with the cleavage so I changed it to a side-angle shot from the same set—no cleavage, very tasteful. Still removed. Leigh said it was because the first and second pics are in a bra. I pointed out the bot “bobby” has a pic in bra, and she said it was cropped so it didn’t look like lingerie. Fair enough. I tried a third photo: a Macy’s holiday tank top and skirt (think Mean Girls Christmas talent show outfit). Not underwear, but she removed that too. I cropped it to match how bobby’s pic is framed, and she didn’t remove the picture. Even in the original forum she said she left the pic alone when I had it cropped. What she didn’t mention is that YES she left it alone, but she kicked me with a message saying “your kicks will go up until you change the bra pic.” I posted another forum to which she replied that undergarments/lingerie aren’t allowed period, but ignored that this final outfit WASN’T lingerie. All my pics were also scrubbed from that forum so she could safely claim I was posting bra photos without backlash. (for an example of this outfit she claimed was underwear)

Let me get to my recent point here: another user, Liberty Belle, has a pic involving a woman in panties. I mentioned the standards are being held differently and Sweet_Ums told me not to “whine,” just report. Sweet_Ums removed it, but it was back up today. I reported it. Jose ignored it. Jose DMed me about a separate issue so I decided to follow up about Liberty in DMs. He sent a voice message saying “No I’m not going to get into this, No, there’s nothing inappropriate about her profile picture, so, No, I’m not going to remove it. You’ve already been told you’re not putting lingerie pictures up in here. I’m sure the men appreciate it, but we don’t. You’re not special because you’re a celebrity.”
(To be clear, I’m married, gay, and barely active. So what was with the “men appreciate it” comment? Especially considering my photos aren’t lascivious, and I’m not interested in male attention.)

Here’s where I need clarity:
Leigh said no visible undergarments/lingerie, PERIOD. When I report or bring attention to this, I’m being told to drop it, let it go, and stop whining about the past. I’m witnessing the same rule that was applied to me in the past be dismissed in the present. Another point to make is that my camisole (which extended down to the top of my bellybutton), was labelled and disciplined as a “bra.” And then you have minors wearing shorter cami-tops than mine was?

I want real, clear answers, not unaccountability from staff. I’m tired of the ol’ “it’s up to the mod’s discretion,” bull crap. If an admin disciplines someone and says ‘this is the standard, period’ and moderators stray from that standard as they so choose, then it creates inconsistency, undermines the admin’s authority, and leads to confusion and rebellion amongst the chat. Which is what you’ve seen recently with people attacking mods on throw away acocunts. YOUR inept inconsistency caused that.
So answer:
Why a photo involving alcohol, underwear, and straddling a man while kissing IS appropriate for an 13+ room?
Why is clothing disciplined differently depending on who wears them?
 
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Hi @melaninwaifu -

I’m not even sure what to answer here.

I told you that if you cropped your one image that it was fine and I still stand by that, so I’m not sure what you’re on about as far as that’s concerned.

If a mod makes a decision you don’t agree with, you can always (and very easily) DM me on Forums if you’d like to discuss it.

I’ll tag @Mr. Jose - maybe his reply will shed more light?

I’ve also removed Liberty’s image.

If there’s anything else I can answer for you, let me know.
 
THE QUESTIONS I NEED ANSWERED ARE AT THE BOTTOM. PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC.
I posted previously about my profile pics being repeatedly removed. Quick recap: I had a holiday photo in a bra—not raunchy, just cleavage. No mod said anything while online, but the pic disappeared when they weren’t. After it kept happening, I complained and got kicked for complaining. I posted a forum about it and it turned out it was Leigh moderating incognito. She said on the forum she removed it and to stop reuploading the pic. I didn’t even know mods had incognito mode—she could have just messaged me when I complained about my pic disappearing. Again the pic wasn’t super suggestive but I figured it had something to do with the cleavage so I changed it to a side-angle shot from the same set—no cleavage, very tasteful. Still removed. Leigh said it was because the first and second pics are in a bra. I pointed out the bot “bobby” has a pic in bra, and she said it was cropped so it didn’t look like lingerie. Fair enough. I tried a third photo: a Macy’s holiday tank top and skirt (think Mean Girls Christmas talent show outfit). Not underwear, but she removed that too. I cropped it to match how bobby’s pic is framed, and she didn’t remove the picture. Even in the original forum she said she left the pic alone when I had it cropped. What she didn’t mention is that YES she left it alone, but she kicked me with a message saying “your kicks will go up until you change the bra pic.” I posted another forum to which she replied that undergarments/lingerie aren’t allowed period, but ignored that this final outfit WASN’T lingerie. All my pics were also scrubbed from that forum so she could safely claim I was posting bra photos without backlash. (for an example of this outfit she claimed was underwear)

Let me get to my recent point here: another user, Liberty Belle, has a pic involving a woman in panties. I mentioned the standards are being held differently and Sweet_Ums told me not to “whine,” just report. Sweet_Ums removed it, but it was back up today. I reported it. Jose ignored it. Jose DMed me about a separate issue so I decided to follow up about Liberty in DMs. He sent a voice message saying “No I’m not going to get into this, No, there’s nothing inappropriate about her profile picture, so, No, I’m not going to remove it. You’ve already been told you’re not putting lingerie pictures up in here. I’m sure the men appreciate it, but we don’t. You’re not special because you’re a celebrity.”
(To be clear, I’m married, gay, and barely active. So what was with the “men appreciate it” comment? Especially considering my photos aren’t lascivious, and I’m not interested in male attention.)

Here’s where I need clarity:
Leigh said no visible undergarments/lingerie, PERIOD. When I report or bring attention to this, I’m being told to drop it, let it go, and stop whining about the past. I’m witnessing the same rule that was applied to me in the past be dismissed in the present. Another point to make is that my camisole (which extended down to the top of my bellybutton), was labelled and disciplined as a “bra.” And then you have minors wearing shorter cami-tops than mine was?

I want real, clear answers, not unaccountability from staff. I’m tired of the ol’ “it’s up to the mod’s discretion,” bull crap. If an admin disciplines someone and says ‘this is the standard, period’ and moderators stray from that standard as they so choose, then it creates inconsistency, undermines the admin’s authority, and leads to confusion and rebellion amongst the chat. Which is what you’ve seen recently with people attacking mods on throw away acocunts. YOUR inept inconsistency caused that.
So answer:
Why a photo involving alcohol, underwear, and straddling a man while kissing IS appropriate for an 13+ room?
Why is clothing disciplined differently depending on who wears them?
Don't hold your breath for a concise answer - it all depends on who likes who and who wants to see the pics in question. Mr Jose is a biased trump thumping mod he removes users based on his personal choice and not a thing will be done about now or ever. Choose a different room with different mind set.

I reported with image of a very young naked under 13 year old female to the admin and was told if I did that again I would be reported to law enforcement - go figure how this site or the team work
 
I reported with image of a very young naked under 13 year old female to the admin and was told if I did that again I would be reported to law enforcement - go figure how this site or the team work

No. That’s not accurate. What you did was send a screenshot of a profile containing a nude minor’s image to my Forums account. I thanked you for the report and handled it, even acknowledged the fact that I know you meant well by reporting it, but also informed you that sending screenshots containing nude images of minors was not allowed under any circumstance and that if it continued you’d be reported to law enforcement.

Let’s also not derail this thread, as the OP clearly asked. Thank you.
 
Don't hold your breath for a concise answer - it all depends on who likes who and who wants to see the pics in question. Mr Jose is a biased trump thumping mod he removes users based on his personal choice and not a thing will be done about now or ever. Choose a different room with different mind set.

I reported with image of a very young naked under 13 year old female to the admin and was told if I did that again I would be reported to law enforcement - go figure how this site or the team work
wow that's sick
 
I reported with image of a very young naked under 13 year old female to the admin and was told if I did that again I would be reported to law enforcement - go figure how this site or the team work
In the eyes of the law, that’s considered distribution by you and receiving by her. And both you and Leigh could be in trouble.

I know how frustrating it is that the creepers remove vile images before the report can be processed, but doing what you did is definitely not the way to do it.

Just saying. And she’s way more approachable than HR Diddy was.
 
every room has favorites and if you speak about favoritism or favorites then the mods and admins fine little things to attack you on for calling out the practice.
It took forever but one of the best things that could happen was them banning you from at least two rooms . You’re 40 and tried to ask a 15 year old about her bra in girls chat .
 
I told you that if you cropped your one image that it was fine and I still stand by that, so I’m not sure what you’re on about as far as that’s concerned.
Accountability? You removed the full pic in the camisole, so I reposted it cropped. You kicked me saying it’s a bra, and if i keep using the same pic that you removed (true that it was the same pic, but it was now cropped like you asked) my kicks would go up.

I don’t want to keep talking about the past. I did a shoot last night cosplaying Liberty Belle’s photo. I will be using that photo since Jose said there is nothing inappropriate about it. I’d love get his input.
 
The only way I’d of told you “no” after saying “ok” is if you changed the cropping of your image, which you’ve done before. Also, that kick reason you shared wasn’t issued by me.

Again, I removed Liberty’s image from her profile. It would be best to not use any image replicating what she had up as it will also be removed.

I’m sure @Mr. Jose will respond when he’s able. Please be patient.
 
I don’t not want to dwell on the past but I won’t stand for details to be left out to paint me a certain way.
The only way I’d of told you “no” after saying “ok” is if you changed the cropping of your image, which you’ve done before.
You’re right about the cropping changing. After the full cami+skirt pic was removed I cropped it to just the start of the cami (like bobby’s pic). Although the pic wasn’t removed I was kicked for 30mins and told my kicks will go up unless I changed it. I re-cropped it to the bottom of the cami so you can easily tell it’s not a bra seeing as the top extended down to the start of my bellybutton—As you said in the forum, it could be assumed to be a dress when cropped like that, and you left it alone. But I was kicked for 1hr being asked to change it again. I don’t appreciate the mention of the cropping changing without the mention that it was still within your guidelines, and still disciplined. Now let’s move forward.

Again, I removed Liberty’s image from her profile. It would be best to not use any image replicating what she had up, as it will also be removed.
@Mr. Jose is active in the chat and hasn’t removed it. While experimenting with this photo I’ve received many DMs asking if “I’m on top” and “If i have sex with the guy” in the photo. Inappropriate conversation I’ve never been DMed with any of my other photos. We can confirm this image isn’t suitable with the traction it brings in. Jose was very stern in telling me that Liberty Belle’s photo was NOT inappropriate and truly only he can say why.
However he’s made it clear he intended to ignore my further inquiries about it, so I’m not certain he will take the time to elaborate here.
 
I don’t not want to dwell on the past but I won’t stand for details to be left out to paint me a certain way.

You’re right about the cropping changing. After the full cami+skirt pic was removed I cropped it to just the start of the cami (like a bobby’s pic). Although the pic wasn’t removed I was kicked for 30mins and told to change it or my kicks will go up. I re-cropped it to the bottom of the cami so you can easily tell it’s not a bra seeing as the top extended down to the start of my bellybutton—As you said in the forum, it could be assumed to be a dress when cropped like that, and you left it alone. But I was kicked for 1hr being asked to change it again. I don’t appreciate the mention of the cropping changing without the mention that it was still within your guidelines, and still disciplined. Now let’s move forward.
Right, so when I said it was ok and you were still actioned for it, the best course of action would’ve been to reach out to me directly so I could find out what happened, correct it, and explain to whichever moderator actioned you how to handle things moving forward. A helpful tip for next time, if there is one.
@Mr. Jose is active in the chat and hasn’t removed it. While experimenting with this photo I’ve received many DMs asking if “I’m on top” and “If i have sex with the guy” in the photo. Inappropriate conversation I’ve never been DMed with any of my other photos. We can confirm this image isn’t suitable with the traction it brings in. Jose was very stern in telling me that Liberty Belle’s photo was NOT inappropriate and truly only he can say why.
However he’s made it clear he intended to ignore my further inquiries about it, so I’m not certain he will take the time to elaborate here.
@Mr. Jose is not in the room as of current - I am. If you disclose what your username is, I’ll be happy to remove your image myself if it goes against room rules.
 
This is also a wonderful example of inconsistency. Neither Jose nor Drock actioned me for the photo despite both being active in the room. Action was only taken to be funny/passive aggressive after reading this thread.
Actually action was taken after our admin reviewed the picture based on your complaint and deemed it inappropriate for the room. Leigh removed it from Liberty, so to keep consistent, I removed it from the other account as well. Consistency was what you wanted, isnt it?
 
I'm kinda busy at work and don't have time for this ****. What's this all about? I told you last night when you brought up some pics you were actioned for in December that Leigh had already explained it to you why it was inappropriate. If she makes a decision that's it. If she decides Liberty Bell's picture is inappropriate as well then that's it. Leigh is the administrator of General chat and if she makes a decision then I abide by her decision. Period. I'm not here to debate you about any decisions she makes! I told you that last night! I'm not really sure what you hoped to accomplish here.
And Ken and Stinkerbelle.... Who cares about your opinions? Seriously. All you two do is try to stir up drama and never pass up an opportunity to try to slander staff.
 
..and on that note:
that's all folks GIF by Space Jam
 
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