The Musings of DeletedMember7

[Bam!]

Kind of agree with some points, others not so much.

 

[emileh]

Oh and I'm definitely moving furniture into the hugely vacant space that's your head. So many echoes...

 

[Deleted member 308590]

I think a more pertinent question about trans people is, should trans women be allowed in women's spaces, changing areas, breastfeeding classes, prisons, sports etc

In Texas last week a transgender 'Jammie Booker' won the world's strongest woman competition, he's a man. Glamour magazine gave 9 trans women activists the 'woman of the year' award, They're men. A black lesbian 'Tish Hyman' got kicked out of golds gym in L.a because she complained about a trans woman staring at her while she was naked in the shower.

All of that happened within a few weeks. It's illegal for a man to stand outside at a window and watch women undress but he can go INTO a women's changing area and do that if he SAYS he's a woman.

In Australia a trans woman broke a women's leg in soccer, her sporting career ended, women got took to court, fined thousands for SAYING what they're DOING.

The left call it inclusion.

That's just a few incidents there's many more.

That post^^ that's the reason she went batshit crazy and repeatedly told blatant lies calling me 'bigot' 'far right' saying I'm being 'hateful' with 'an agenda ' etc. she's done the same thing to many others and will continue to do so. merely SAYING what some in her beloved so called 'oppressed' group are DOING is infuriating to her. It's against the woke rules isn't that right @emileh . Yeah changed my mind I will tag her.

At first she says none of those things are happening. then when she gets proof 'you're free to goog le it' she screams bigot! Dogma! Far right! Transphobe! Agenda pusher! Etc etc truly pathetic.

Let's look at some of her other posts...

 

[Deleted member 308590]

Do you think it's ok when trans women activists biological males win woman of the year awards, is it ok for a lesbian to get kicked out of a gym and banned because she objects to a trans woman, biological man staring at her while she's naked? Do you think it's ok that a trans woman, a biological man won the world's strongest WOMAN competition? That's what my first post was about.

Blah blah dogma dogma...

You couldn't actually debate your way out of a paper bag. I answered all of your questions at various points in this thread and did you debate them using credible sources to refute? No. You just continue to use straw man arguments (which are blatant and transparent) and continue to trot out your mindless bigotry.

You're not even a particularly good troll. You certainly have no argument of any substance here.

0/10 Do better. Oh wait, you can't

Look at my post and her reply. According to her ASKING those questions it's... Dogma dogma. Mindless bigotry ^^^

 

[Deleted member 308590]

Yawn . Staying FACTS is not hate. What facts? My first post in this thread. Like I said before I get it, merely saying what some in that community are DOING infuriates you. 'no debate ' yeah you won't answer if I was bullying you or answer what a woman is despite being asked several times now.

When straight white 'cis men' do something wrong and you, people on the left call it out, does anyone ever assert that you're 'hateful' or straightphobic' do they say it's 'dogma' an 'agenda' ?

Do they assert you have a 'phobia' NO. ok in contrast whenever we merely SAY what some in the trans community are DOING suddenly you opine we are being hateful, it's dogma, we're bigots etc etc . That's the game many on the left play.


This is not about people BEING trans, that's not the issue. It's about what some in that community are DOING. There's a difference. Many leftists 'including you' are incapable of understanding this.

Blah blah blah dogma agenda agenda. More of the same old same old trotted out with no actual refutation of any of the science given in my answers or any decent responses given. Why? Because you clearly lack the ability.

That was her actual reply to my post above.^^^ According to her it's.... dogma, agenda agenda!

 

[Deleted member 308590]

@emileh tell me how any of my beliefs, what I say is 'far right ' 'bigotry' ' hatred' ok

1. Women should have a right to single sex spaces

2. Trans women should not be in women's sports or changing areas because they are men

3. Children cannot consent to puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, surgery
4. People should not have to use compelled speech to validate others ,
5. Trans women should not be in women's breastfeeding classes because they are men

6. People should not be fired, cancelled for not using compelled speech, pronouns

7. Men convicted of a crime
should not be moved to women's prisons if they identify as a woman.

8. Language should not be twisted distorted to erase the meaning of woman.

9. People shouldn't be labelled as cisgender. Male/ female, man/woman is suffice
10. Feelings should not have precedence over facts

Blah blah blah. Agenda agenda. Obvious prejudice. Quotes on cherry picked non-articles and tropes with very little basis in fact and that don't actually apply to everyday existence for the majority of normal people but are beloved of the far right/religious right...

Now read the scientific paper that I've suggested in my previous post and try your best to digest and understand it.

I have a bet with myself what your response is going to be. Let's see if I win.

Look at my post and her reply. She says 'agenda agenda obvious prejudice. Lol I think the vast majority of sane people would agree with most of 1. -10. She says 'cherry picked non articles ' No. It's having common sense and morals, something she lacks. I seriously think @emileh has a severe mental illness and I hope she gets urgent help I mean that sincerely.

 

[Deleted member 308590]

Her intolerance of anyone who has differing views is truly sickening. as for her obsession with 'roundabout painters' she's desperately trying to play the racist card lol pathetic. @emileh does it make you feel good to just blatantly lie about others when you disagree with them . Can you give ANY proof that I'm 'far right ' ANY posts? No you can't because I'm not. I know myself better than you do.

IF I was far right I would have no problem telling you that. Unlike you I don't virtue signal, I'm not here to be in the woke gang. I'm not far right. That's just a label you try to tar people with when you can't take truth, differing views, same when you repeatedly scream bigotry, agenda, transphobe. Etc. l

Like all extreme woke intolerant deluded leftists you do that to try and vilify others, to stifle speech.

People see through that bs. It's also what trans activists do. When people paint roundabouts does it enrage you? Lol I don't paint roundabouts. When people put up an England flag on their house does that enrage you? Probably. To intolerant, deluded, idiot ,woke leftists 'you' Truth is hate, facts are bigotry, differing views are an agenda. You're mentally ill!

I don't need your bs 'studies' to know a man is not a woman because he says he feels like one. Woman is not a feeling it's not an identity it's not a costume. Any 'sources' that say otherwise are ideologically captured. It's from activists it's Pseudoscience.

 

[Deleted member 308590]

Substitute the words trans women for 'cis men'. If it was never trans women in women's changing areas, breastfeeding classes, winning in women's sports, etc and instead it was 'cis men' @emileh , leftists, liberals, feminists would be absolutely outraged. They would call it out.

 

[Deleted member 308590]

Kind of agree with some points, others not so much.

Hi what points do you agree with and disagree with if I may ask?

 

[Bam!]

Hi what points do you agree with and disagree with if I may ask?

Those are kept private.

I agree and disagree with several points across this thread from everybody. Hints why I didn't quote anything or tag anybody.

 

[emileh]

I think I may have caused some butthurt in the transphobe. Aw diddums 🙂

It's fun living rent free though.

 

[RandomGuyUK]

.. i couldn't be bothered to read all the latest posts here.

but i just wanna say - i have nothing to do with deleted member.
i dont know them - here or anywhere ..., and they are nothing to do with me.

i agree with some of their points, but i understand other views too.
i'm also a kindly and understanding person.

I got VIP in the chat yesterday.
My current name is ''Kindly Corporal'.
I hope that username helps to explain who I am.

 

[Bam!]

I think I may have caused some butthurt in the transphobe. Aw diddums 🙂

It's fun living rent free though.

 

[Deleted member 308590]

 

[Deleted member 308590]

Okay - Genuine question... Why do you say it is "not your scene" is it your scene when it is only LGB? Is it the T portion that puts you off it?

I'm not trying to cause drama here - I'm trying to understand the thought process of someone who seems to disagree without being a vile person about it, if that makes sense?

Everyone is allowed their opinion, I fully support that, but you can have an opinion and berate or belittle others whilst doing so for simply existing

'Everyone is allowed their opinion ' unless their opinion differs from yours on the topic of Lgbt. Isn't that right Louize. When people who are NOT lgbt convey their opinion and you disagree, you denigrate them, you assert they have a phobia, you say they're hateful, bigots etc etc. Many on the left do this. In real life and on this forum.

They do exactly what they say shouldn't be done to them i e attack people for being different and having different beliefs, views.

The words bigot, transphobe are the words you 'and many use as a slur. The 'trans people are being attacked for existing ' narrative is ridiculous. All humans exist. They are losing the support of the majority of people because of what some in that community are DOING it's not because of them BEING trans. There's a difference.

Even some trans people have said it's gone too far. What are they doing?

Demanding compelled speech, demanding people use their pronouns, cancel culture, demanding to use the changing areas of the opposite sex, compete in the sports of the opposite sex, distorting language, trying to erode the meaning of woman to accomodate their own identity, ideology is being imposed onto children as if it's imperical scientific fact, the ramifications of this include confusion , sterilization, medicalistion, mutilation.
They are Infringing on women's rights.

It's not about them 'existing ' it's about what they're doing.

How many trans activists advocate for trans only spaces, sports? None, zero.

You say christians believe in an imaginary being. Ok I say trans people believe in an imaginary identity. Funny how you never tell muslims they believe in an imaginary being, it's against the woke rules isn't it Louise you can only mock , criticise Christians because muslims have 'oppressed group 'status. You won't be called christianphobic.

It's illegal to be lgbt in muslim countries but most LGBT people, most leftists are silent about that fact, instead their vitriol is directed at Christians and Christian countries. If lgbt people moved to muslim countries and be openly lgbt there they would understand what discrimination and oppression is.

 

[emileh]

'Everyone is allowed their opinion ' unless their opinion differs from yours on the topic of Lgbt. Isn't that right Louize. When people who are NOT lgbt convey their opinion and you disagree, you denigrate them, you assert they have a phobia, you say they're hateful, bigots etc etc. Many on the left do this. In real life and on this forum.

They do exactly what they say shouldn't be done to them i e attack people for being different and having different beliefs, views.

The words bigot, transphobe are the words you 'and many use as a slur. The 'trans people are being attacked for existing ' narrative is ridiculous. All humans exist. They are losing the support of the majority of people because of what some in that community are DOING it's not because of them BEING trans. There's a difference.

Even some trans people have said it's gone too far. What are they doing?

Demanding compelled speech, demanding people use their pronouns, cancel culture, demanding to use the changing areas of the opposite sex, compete in the sports of the opposite sex, distorting language, trying to erode the meaning of woman to accomodate their own identity, ideology is being imposed onto children as if it's imperical scientific fact, the ramifications of this include confusion , sterilization, medicalistion, mutilation.
They are Infringing on women's rights.

It's not about them 'existing ' it's about what they're doing.

How many trans activists advocate for trans only spaces, sports? None, zero.

You say christians believe in an imaginary being. Ok I say trans people believe in an imaginary identity. Funny how you never tell muslims they believe in an imaginary being, it's against the woke rules isn't it Louise you can only mock , criticise Christians because muslims have 'oppressed group 'status. You won't be called christianphobic.

It's illegal to be lgbt in muslim countries but most LGBT people, most leftists are silent about that fact, instead their vitriol is directed at Christians and Christian countries. If lgbt people moved to muslim countries and be openly lgbt there they would understand what discrimination and oppression is.

Oh he's off on one of his transphobic agenda broadcasting rants again. Same tired old far right/religious right tropes "oh won't somebody think of the children/women". etc. etc. Repeat ad nauseum until he realises he's done then leave for a while and come back with yet another new user account under a different username...

So boring.

 

[Deleted member 308590]

The whole point of the LGBT movement is to treat people as equals and embrace the differences. While being trans isn't the same boat as being gay, the community itself can be joined because they're fighting for the same cause and were discriminated against for the same reason and time as the gay community.

Remember - the people that fought really hard for gay rights in the first place, back when rolling people into carpets and lighting them on fire was a normal Tuesday - were mostly cross dressers and trans women. (Stonewall et all)

What cause are gay people fighting for exactly? They have same rights as everyone else. Perhaps you're inventing problems in your head that don't exist. LGB has nothing to do with the T it's completely different.

What rights do trans people want and what rights do they think they don't have?

The people who fought for gay rights in the first place were not cross dressers and trans women that's just the narrative from trans activists and captured organisations like stonewall. It's bs.

 

[Deleted member 308590]

Oh he's off on one of his transphobic agenda broadcasting rants again. Same tired old far right/religious right tropes "oh won't somebody think of the children/women". etc. etc. Repeat ad nauseum until he realises he's done then leave for a while and come back with yet another new user account under a different username...

So boring.

In other words no counter argument. Dismissed

 

[emileh]

In other words no counter argument. Dismissed

Plenty of counter arguments in the other threads you've tried pushing your tired old transphobic agenda in. You've never attempted to actually respond to them even when I gave you the title and reference number of an actual scientific paper that might have straightened your head out a bit. I wonder why that was? Did it ruin your confirmation bias? Hmmm?

By the way all of the parts of the LGBT movement are minorities that face open bigotry like this thread regularly. They're much the same as far as that goes but again, that doesn't support your tired old agenda does it?

Class dismissed.

 

[Deleted member 308590]

Plenty of counter arguments in the other threads you've tried pushing your tired old transphobic agenda in. You've never attempted to actually respond to them even when I gave you the title and reference number of an actual scientific paper that might have straightened your head out a bit. I wonder why that was? Did it ruin your confirmation bias? Hmmm?

By the way all of the parts of the LGBT movement are minorities that face open bigotry like this thread regularly. They're much the same as far as that goes but again, that doesn't support your tired old agenda does it?

Class dismissed.

In other words no counter argument. Dismissed

See above