Should trans people be accepted into the workplace?

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I think a more pertinent question about trans people is, should trans women be allowed in women's spaces, changing areas, breastfeeding classes, prisons, sports etc

In Texas last week a transgender 'Jammie Booker' won the world's strongest woman competition, he's a man. Glamour magazine gave 9 trans women activists the 'woman of the year' award, They're men. A black lesbian 'Tish Hyman' got kicked out of golds gym in L.a because she complained about a trans woman staring at her while she was naked in the shower.

All of that happened within a few weeks. It's illegal for a man to stand outside at a window and watch women undress but he can go INTO a women's changing area and do that if he SAYS he's a woman.

In Australia a trans woman broke a women's leg in soccer, her sporting career ended, women got took to court, fined thousands for SAYING what they're DOING.

The left call it inclusion.

That's just a few incidents there's many more.
 
Edit. She was in the changing area, not the shower, she got kicked out of the gym.
 
Trans activists don't advocate for trans only spaces, changing areas, sports. They don't want that.
 
The trans woman who Tish Hyman was complaining about is Alexis Black, convicted wife beater, he pleaded guilty to domestic assault 'among other convictions' and got jailed for it, broke his ex wife's jaw. He also took his ex wife's name.
 
Workplace? They can’t even accept the gender they are? NO they should not be. When I was a teen the gays,trans and the such were all in the closet. Once they were let out it got CRAZY! My kids are all adults thank God!
 
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Regardless of wether or not you are trans, most if not all workplaces have a code of conduct, and or a dress code.

You either adhere to that, or you dont work there for very long.

And given conduct and dress code are really the only things really effected by being trans ... it shouldn't matter.

Trans or not you can be an ass and not follow all that, and get fired. So no, it really shouldn't matter when it comes to hiring
 
DeletedMember7 said:
I think a more pertinent question about trans people is, should trans women be allowed in women's spaces, changing areas, breastfeeding classes, prisons, sports etc

In Texas last week a transgender 'Jammie Booker' won the world's strongest woman competition, he's a man. Glamour magazine gave 9 trans women activists the 'woman of the year' award, They're men. A black lesbian 'Tish Hyman' got kicked out of golds gym in L.a because she complained about a trans woman staring at her while she was naked in the shower.

All of that happened within a few weeks. It's illegal for a man to stand outside at a window and watch women undress but he can go INTO a women's changing area and do that if he SAYS he's a woman.

In Australia a trans woman broke a women's leg in soccer, her sporting career ended, women got took to court, fined thousands for SAYING what they're DOING.

The left call it inclusion.

That's just a few incidents there's many more.
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The trans woman who Tish Hyman was complaining about is Alexis Black, convicted wife beater, he pleaded guilty to domestic assault 'among other convictions' and got jailed for it, broke his ex wife's jaw. He also took his ex wife's name.
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If gender is a social construct how can anyone be born in the wrong body? 🤔

Imagine if it was never trans women in women's changing areas, sports etc and instead it was 'cis men' I bet the left, feminists, liberals would be absolutely outraged, they would call it out. What's the difference between trans women and men? The words.
 
Nobody’s skills and experience should be undermined in the workplace. If competent and capable, that’s what should be considered. In any person’s work ethic, productivity, capability etc.

As much as I agree with the toilets/changing room situation, that wasn’t the question.
 
Soapie said:
Regardless of wether or not you are trans, most if not all workplaces have a code of conduct, and or a dress code.

You either adhere to that, or you dont work there for very long.

And given conduct and dress code are really the only things really effected by being trans ... it shouldn't matter.

Trans or not you can be an ass and not follow all that, and get fired. So no, it really shouldn't matter when it comes to hiring
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So what happens when trans women are 'misgendered' at work? Many will regard it as being attacked, it compels their co workers to validate them even if it goes against their religious beliefs. It's walk on eggshells time around them.

It can create a hostile environment for everyone else even if there's only one trans woman there. Also if trans women get fired they could easily play the transphobic card and file a lawsuit against their employer, saying the reason they got fired is because they're trans regardless if their incompetent at their job.
 
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So what happens when trans women are 'misgendered' at work?
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What would you do if someone called you by the wrong name? Correct them. As long as its in a professional manner, I dont see why that would effect anything.
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Many will regard it as being attacked, it compels their co workers to validate them even if it goes against their religious beliefs. It's walk on eggshells time around them.
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Goes against religious beliefs? Surely that isn't a factor in the workplace, and if it is, surely one cant be expected to validate their feelings if it goes against mine, but expect me to go with theirs.
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It can create a hostile environment for everyone else even if there's only one trans woman there.
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Why would it? You go to work, to work. Who gives a **** if someone is called something that you personally dont think suits them. If that leads to a "hostile environment", you got alot more problems than one trans person.
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Also if trans women get fired they could easily play the transphobic card and file a lawsuit against their employer, saying the reason they got fired is because they're trans regardless if their incompetent at their job.
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...surely in that case, an investigation would take place to see wether or not it was due to the individuals work ethic, or discrimination. They can play the card all they want, dosent mean it'll work



(Ps, no mention of trans men i see)
 
Soapie said:
What would you do if someone called you by the wrong name? Correct them. As long as its in a professional manner, I dont see why that would effect anything.

Goes against religious beliefs? Surely that isn't a factor in the workplace, and if it is, surely one cant be expected to validate their feelings if it goes against mine, but expect me to go with theirs.

Why would it? You go to work, to work. Who gives a **** if someone is called something that you personally dont think suits them. If that leads to a "hostile environment", you got alot more problems than one trans person.

...surely in that case, an investigation would take place to see wether or not it was due to the individuals work ethic, or discrimination. They can play the card all they want, dosent mean it'll work



(Ps, no mention of trans men i see)
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'who gives a **** if someone is called something that you personally don't think suits them? Trans people, that's who. Are you aware that many people have been cancelled, fired for not using their pronouns? And that includes in the workplace.

I'm not saying trans people should not be allowed to work, of course they should however their co workers should not be compelled to validate them, use their pronouns and then be reprimanded and sometimes fired if they don't.
 
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Trans people, that's who. Are you aware that many people have been cancelled, fired for not using their pronouns? And that includes in the workplace.
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And how many times has that *actually* happened? Most people i know, myself included, were you to call them the wrong name, would simply correct you, and if you were to continue... ignore you, cause you clearly aren't worth the effort.


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however their co workers should not be compelled to validate them, use their pronouns and then be reprimanded and sometimes fired if they don't.
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I fail to see why you wouldn't tho? It hardly effects your day in any meaningful way to call someone a name you dont think suits them. Its work, you go there, you work, you go home and dont think about it.

Being fired is a bit rough. But reprimanded, for being petty and intentionally going out of your way to not call someone their name? Absolutely, thats extremely unprofessional
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Both trans men and trans women ^^
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And glad we've added that now
 
Soapie said:
And how many times has that *actually* happened? Most people i know, myself included, were you to call them the wrong name, would simply correct you, and if you were to continue... ignore you, cause you clearly aren't worth the effort.



I fail to see why you wouldn't tho? It hardly effects your day in any meaningful way to call someone a name you dont think suits them. Its work, you go there, you work, you go home and dont think about it.

Being fired is a bit rough. But reprimanded, for being petty and intentionally going out of your way to not call someone their name? Absolutely, thats extremely unprofessional

And glad we've added that now
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What you're saying is akin to if Christians demanded that all trans people say they believe in god because they do and it hurts their feelings if they don't do their beliefs must be validated. 'i fail to see why you wouldn't though' because people shouldn't have to deny reality, tell lies to 'be polite' lol if people take umbrage to being called something eh he/him, male and it matches their biological sex then that's their problem.
 
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What you're saying is akin to if Christians demanded that all trans people say they believe in god because they do and it hurts their feelings if they don't do their beliefs must be validated. 'i fail to see why you wouldn't though' because people shouldn't have to deny reality, tell lies to 'be polite' lol if people take umbrage to being called something eh he/him, male and it matches their biological sex then that's their problem.
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Ok, immediately, forcing someone to believe in a religion, and finding it rude to have someone intentionally call you a different name is quite different.

And sure, out and about, be as "grounded in reality" as you want. But in a workplace, all members, for an effective working environment, should have some level of politeness and respect for each other. That could mean calling someone by the name they have given you, and not insulting someone based on what they belive in as a religion. You make an exception at work cause again, you just work there to get paid, while your there you act nice, soon as you're home speak all the crap you want about whoever.
 
Skeezy said:
No heffa I'm not in a mental hospital,trans people are mentally ill and whoever supports those delusional people belong in the asylum with them
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DK shut up for 1 no1s more delusional than you and u ain’t a trans what’s ur excuse & everyone should be accepted in the work place no matter what their gender it’s like saying only white people can work and no other race can cause the colour of thier skin it’s STUPID to tar people with the same brush
 
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So what happens when trans women are 'misgendered' at work? Many will regard it as being attacked, it compels their co workers to validate them even if it goes against their religious beliefs. It's walk on eggshells time around them.

It can create a hostile environment for everyone else even if there's only one trans woman there. Also if trans women get fired they could easily play the transphobic card and file a lawsuit against their employer, saying the reason they got fired is because they're trans regardless if their incompetent at their job.
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