Ignoring Guests

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Nia V

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I'm sure this idea is not original. And it probably should be directed to Chatmaster. But since it relates to Girls Chat, I will post it here:

I feel that it's unfair that we can't have the same blocks on Guest accounts as we do Registered users...which I think are about a month.

The guests are far and away the most disruptive elements in the room (there are exceptions, of course...but just saying in overall quantity). They bring almost no constructive value to the room. But we can only block them, and when they log off or are kicked and come back, we have to block them again. This is unfair. If you don't want us responding to trolls, pervs, pedos, incest and animal freaks, etc in the room...give us a tool other than a temporary block. Why should I be forced to block the same guest again and again every single day...or 10 times a day in some cases, when I can block an irritating registered user once a month??

This would be for the overall benefit of the room. We keep hearing about how the room is meant to be a protected environment for under-18 users. But, in fact, most of the really gross people who attack our age group are the guests. Yes, they can be blocked and banned if we report them (if a mod happens to be around). But then, when they are around...we (or at least *I*) get criticized for over-reporting. And the kicks can last for as little as 5-15 mins anyway. What kind of protection is that, really?? Everybody with half a brain (and all the mods are plenty smart and have the best of intentions) knows when these guests are being creepy, but the rules are such that if they aren't explicit enough, they can't kick them. And even if they do, they have to warn and mute first. So a lot of times, they have the run of the room. Why not give the power of choice to the room users to ignore them right away with a lasting ignore, regardless of who is around?

I would just appreciate some consideration of this point. But I feel that we have inadequate options now.

- Nia
 
I hear your frustrations. The short answer of why this feature doesn't exist is because the system is not built for it. Because there are so many guests that come in and out of the room, their information is intentionally discarded after a short period of time as to not take up storage space. Any details on their profile, their fonts, their preferences / settings, their ignores, etc. are all discarded and they have to start a new every time they log in. Unfortunately, this also means that the people who have them on ignore also have to assign a new ignore each time the guest logs in. I understand why this can be annoying for some ******** such as yourself, but unfortunately I feel that this is a feature here to stay. You never know though, someone much higher up than myself may see your post and make change for the better.
 
If this site was run safely and to protect vulnerable users, then the simple answer wud be to turn of guest options and let folk decide if they want to make an account
But it looks like it's a pack as many in with the best possible option attitude and bring in the cash, then things won't change
This is not gripe at ca and I understand its here to make money and it's free to use, I have been using ca since digichat days when adult chat was not like it is today
I personally get that guests are here to stay and I've learnt to mentally ignore the idiots that try to disrupt chat. Maybe one day the problem with guests will be solved until then don't let then ruin ur time in chat
 
I understand what is being said about the guests and yes it can be annoying at times. Sadly though the most disruptive user in the room and biggest troll in the room is a VIP. The guests are nothing compared to that user most of the time .
 
Tadpole said:
If this site was run safely and to protect vulnerable users, then the simple answer wud be to turn of guest options and let folk decide if they want to make an account
But it looks like it's a pack as many in with the best possible option attitude and bring in the cash, then things won't change
This is not gripe at ca and I understand its here to make money and it's free to use, I have been using ca since digichat days when adult chat was not like it is today
I personally get that guests are here to stay and I've learnt to mentally ignore the idiots that try to disrupt chat. Maybe one day the problem with guests will be solved until then don't let then ruin ur time in chat
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Amy46 said:
Sadly though the most disruptive user in the room and biggest troll in the room is a VIP. The guests are nothing compared to that user most of the time .
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@Tadpole I hear you, but I think there's a lot of merit to what @Amy46 said. I mod a completely different room than the one this post is directed at, and hands down our "worst" chatter in the room is VIP. If you're from the old Digichat days, then you know the option of creating an account is a relatively new feature. Like many of the long term ******** here, I've taken multiple year+ long breaks in the 15+ years I've used this site. During one of the times came back, I was not comfortable registering an account because it felt so different than the Chat Avenue I remembered. The fonts were different, the layout was different, the account registration was different, it was just all different - and I opted to stay as a guest literally until I got my mod shield. Yes, there are some troublesome guest ********, but there are likewise troublesome registered and VIP ********. Allowing guests in a room isn't necessarily an issue of choosing money over safety, it's about making the room accessable to more people. I hear your frustrations and, especially in larger rooms, the number of guests can be overwhelming at times. That is why feature exists like ignoring guests in main and blocking guest PMs. Which brings us full circle back to where this thread started of being able to ignore guests for longer periods of time.
 
LostCause. said:
@Tadpole I hear you, but I think there's a lot of merit to what @Amy46 said. I mod a completely different room than the one this post is directed at, and hands down our "worst" chatter in the room is VIP. If you're from the old Digichat days, then you know the option of creating an account is a relatively new feature. Like many of the long term ******** here, I've taken multiple year+ long breaks in the 15+ years I've used this site. During one of the times came back, I was not comfortable registering an account because it felt so different than the Chat Avenue I remembered. The fonts were different, the layout was different, the account registration was different, it was just all different - and I opted to stay as a guest literally until I got my mod shield. Yes, there are some troublesome guest ********, but there are likewise troublesome registered and VIP ********. Allowing guests in a room isn't necessarily an issue of choosing money over safety, it's about making the room accessable to more people. I hear your frustrations and, especially in larger rooms, the number of guests can be overwhelming at times. That is why feature exists like ignoring guests in main and blocking guest PMs. Which brings us full circle back to where this thread started of being able to ignore guests for longer periods of time.
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Yes I get what you say completely, but the thread at first was about guests, I have met many many users who are far worse than guests and tbh I have not got a problem with the guest option, it brings ppl in and many guests are good ppl
Mostly tho the troublesome guests are account holders and vips
We managed to get by in the past without an ignore button or even mods at one stage
Chat has evolved several times, flashchat being my vote for worse system, overnight it changed digichat adult into a free for all which cud hold up to a thousand ppl
So to me now the guests are not so much a problem as back then, mods do their very best to curtail them but in a busy room it's hard to do

We all have our gripes but all in all its a good place to be if you can see past the trolls, idiots pervs and disruptive
 
The easiest solution to this problem would be to make a feature that just blocks all guests permanently. We already hav a feature to keep us from getting guest pms. I think it would be easy, but i aint an expert so.
 
I have heard the argument over and over that some VIPs are the worst offenders in a given room. But none of that has to do with whether my point is a worthy one. If it's true that the hardware can't handle it, then I unfortunately have no response to that. But I do think the next wisest move would be to do away with guests accounts entirely. At the very least...VIPs should never have to see them if they don't want as a benefit of having paid. Maybe that would be the strongest incentive for registered users to pay the extra (and even if it was an annual fee, instead of lifetime). All I know is that what is there now is no answer. I appreciate the mods, but even they are limited in what they can do. We need more help in dealing with these pervs. Its just a really unfair situation. Just my two cent's worth.
 
LostCause. said:
@Tadpole I hear you, but I think there's a lot of merit to what @Amy46 said. I mod a completely different room than the one this post is directed at, and hands down our "worst" chatter in the room is VIP. If you're from the old Digichat days, then you know the option of creating an account is a relatively new feature. Like many of the long term ******** here, I've taken multiple year+ long breaks in the 15+ years I've used this site. During one of the times came back, I was not comfortable registering an account because it felt so different than the Chat Avenue I remembered. The fonts were different, the layout was different, the account registration was different, it was just all different - and I opted to stay as a guest literally until I got my mod shield. Yes, there are some troublesome guest ********, but there are likewise troublesome registered and VIP ********. Allowing guests in a room isn't necessarily an issue of choosing money over safety, it's about making the room accessable to more people. I hear your frustrations and, especially in larger rooms, the number of guests can be overwhelming at times. That is why feature exists like ignoring guests in main and blocking guest PMs. Which brings us full circle back to where this thread started of being able to ignore guests for longer periods of time.
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#1- I don't see the point of bringing up registered users and VIPs. We can block them for a month at a time or whatever already. So how is that relevant? The mods might have to see them, but I don't for a month at a time, and that's good enough for me.

#2 - I can't understand your argument about "it's about making the room accessable to more people". Every person on the internet has access to free email addresses if they want them, even if they don't want anyone to know their personal info. They don't have to pay, so I don't understand how you think they are hindered.
 
One final thing: I do understand that some of the worst trolls are regs or VIPs. But there is not a chance that they outnumber the guests who are really troublesome, because they are completely unaccountable, and can leave and be back almost immediately if they roll their IPs. Their identities are completely disposable, so they just don't care about anything. Even bans are meaningless to them. Some of the regs and VIPs who seem to have been around the longest seem very disruptive because their trolling is often personal to other veterans and based on some grain of truth, and they are out to settle grudges and score points. But most of the truly creepy ones that I see (to be fair, I have hundreds blocked all the time)...the pervs, pedos, bestiality and incest freaks, scat stuff, and all the ones who are way older being non-specific with who they target or request chat with...not to mention the ones that are always asking for "open-minded" moms of teens or moms of kids or even babies, or who is alone with their parents or a sister, or who lives near a guy anywhere and has a window in their room...these creeps are intolerable. We have a number of them who are often seeking to r@pe babies or toddlers or other kids under 12. These are all guests. There ought to be some safety there. We can no longer confront them directly when the mods aren't there because of the tightening of the rules. But blocking them for the moment only accomplishes so much. They WILL be back as soon as they no longer feel they are getting adequate negative attention. Anyway, just venting. I'm not sure I have any answers. But it's unfair and unpleasant.
 
Nia V said:
#1- I don't see the point of bringing up registered users and VIPs. We can block them for a month at a time or whatever already. So how is that relevant? The mods might have to see them, but I don't for a month at a time, and that's good enough for me.

#2 - I can't understand your argument about "it's about making the room accessable to more people". Every person on the internet has access to free email addresses if they want them, even if they don't want anyone to know their personal info. They don't have to pay, so I don't understand how you think they are hindered.
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Hi there. As for #1 on your list, I was responding to the posts made by Tadpole and Amy46 and the content of their posts.

And for #2, just because someone can doesn't mean they will. I was speaking to my own personal experiences and how I personally did not register an account when it became an option. By allowing me to enter the room as a guest, I was more comfortable chatting here. Personally, if registered account were required to chat, I would have moved on to another chat site. By allowing guests to chat without a registered account, it helps the chat rooms appeal to a greater number of people that may or may not want to register.

Girl power! said:
The easiest solution to this problem would be to make a feature that just blocks all guests permanently. We already hav a feature to keep us from getting guest pms. I think it would be easy, but i aint an expert so.
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This is my favourite recommendation I have seen to this issue for people such as yourself @Nia V. Although I've seen a lot of suggestions regarding doing away with guests all together, I love the idea of just adding an extra perk that blocks the ability for you to see guest messages in main. It's an option with PMs, and it would be great to see that expanded further. Thanks for the great idea @Girl power!.
 
Nia V said:
I have heard the argument over and over that some VIPs are the worst offenders in a given room. But none of that has to do with whether my point is a worthy one. If it's true that the hardware can't handle it, then I unfortunately have no response to that. But I do think the next wisest move would be to do away with guests accounts entirely. At the very least...VIPs should never have to see them if they don't want as a benefit of having paid. Maybe that would be the strongest incentive for registered users to pay the extra (and even if it was an annual fee, instead of lifetime). All I know is that what is there now is no answer. I appreciate the mods, but even they are limited in what they can do. We need more help in dealing with these pervs. Its just a really unfair situation. Just my two cent's worth.
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im kinda against the idea of something that could be considered a basic feature being vip exlusive. we already hav so many feature like just posting pics or literally scrolling up past a certain point being vip exlusive. i would hope if they implemented a feature like that, that it wouldnt be vip exlusive.
 
I hear what you're all saying about Guests but to be fair, I, myself, started out as a Guest and am now a VIP, (as did many other girls). If it weren't for the girls that are regular Users and VIPs, girls who befriended me, encouraged me, supported me, and then became the friends I've come to know, love and appreciate, I probably wouldn't be here now.

I agree that many Guests are disruptive, as is the VIP Amy46 mentioned, but that is what Ignore and Report is for. However, I feel that we have to give them a chance . While yes, so many are just trolls, pervs and abusers, there are those that are really just reaching out, looking for someone to talk to and just enjoy decent conversation.

I think to block all Guests would be unfair. You never know, once they see what the room is really all about, they might to want to actually join our community and it would be unfair to deny them that opportunity.

One idea might be to have a specific room just for Guests, that is if the system could handle the volume. Another might be to extend the Ignore time from one month to a much longer period. Another might be to make age, gender and location required fields when logging in, whether as a Guest or when creating a new account.

Keep smiling and have a great day! 🙂
 
AshleeLightBringer said:
Another might be to make age, gender and location required fields when logging in, whether as a Guest or when creating a new account.
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This is a feature in some rooms already like Video Games Chat. When you enter the room as a guest, you have to enter your age and gender, and your location is auto-populated. I'm not really sure why it's on VGC specifically, but I could see that being a useful questionnaire when entering the rooms geared more towards specific genders like Girls and Boys Chat, and maybe even Lesbian and Gay Chat.
 
AshleeLightBringer said:
I hear what you're all saying about Guests but to be fair, I, myself, started out as a Guest and am now a VIP, (as did many other girls). If it weren't for the girls that are regular Users and VIPs, girls who befriended me, encouraged me, supported me, and then became the friends I've come to know, love and appreciate, I probably wouldn't be here now.

I agree that many Guests are disruptive, as is the VIP Amy46 mentioned, but that is what Ignore and Report is for. However, I feel that we have to give them a chance . While yes, so many are just trolls, pervs and abusers, there are those that are really just reaching out, looking for someone to talk to and just enjoy decent conversation.

I think to block all Guests would be unfair. You never know, once they see what the room is really all about, they might to want to actually join our community and it would be unfair to deny them that opportunity.

One idea might be to have a specific room just for Guests, that is if the system could handle the volume. Another might be to extend the Ignore time from one month to a much longer period. Another might be to make age, gender and location required fields when logging in, whether as a Guest or when creating a new account.

Keep smiling and have a great day!
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I was a guest myself for a long time as well and finally became a member and have found through the years some of the guests are actually really great people. I personelly will not sign up for VIP because of some users that tarnish that status in that room in a daily basis . i don;t mean to offend any other vip's . I know most know the vips who disrupt the room the most , lol actually one or two sounds like the same user under 2 different screen names as VIP but that is another issue
 
I understand that the guest accounts in girls chat aren't always fun, but let's not draw them all on the same page. Maybe suggest a good system like girl power said? Amy46 oh yes , who do you mean by that ?
 
Amy46 said:
I was a guest myself for a long time as well and finally became a member and have found through the years some of the guests are actually really great people. I personelly will not sign up for VIP because of some users that tarnish that status in that room in a daily basis . i don;t mean to offend any other vip's . I know most know the vips who disrupt the room the most , lol actually one or two sounds like the same user under 2 different screen names as VIP but that is another issue
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Random question, tell me which vips i should look out for lol 😛
 
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