Open Letter

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purplerose

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Dear Site Admin, Cm(s)

Why have you let this site fail and fall into such disrepair?


Posts/Threads- Posts/Threads are ghost edited and closed for no reason. Many times not even breaking any rules. People with no concern with the forums ask for threads to be closed mid discussion most times, and it's done.
Why are posts/threads being deleted or moved to mod forums? especially when its not needed, and then having them be labeled “sensitive mod material” when it was clearly part of the discussion and no sensitive data was posted in open forums.
And then on the far end, users cannot use certain email truncation's to sign up or even contact you to alert you to issues with the site. Many times with issues going on days before action is taken. The fun threads are killed within 3 posts but the seriously, potentially serious threat threads are left for days.

Staff- It seems to be true that in SOME rooms a user must have VIP in order to become moderator? Basically what you/ the room admin are promoting is Pay To Play. Which makes it far less fair and balanced. not only for the other mods that have to work in the same room. but for the users they feel they wont get a fair decision when rules are broken. fair and balanced SHOULD be 1 of the qualities of a moderator, not their ability to pay. This site is missing out on some great moderators simply because they haven't paid (or paid recently).
Why do you treat the staff as they are poop on the bottom of your shoe? And no i certainly dont mean open an AMA or answer every single “HEY” pm. BUT you certainly should be answering your admins and reading what they say, not only do some have their rooms pulse , but most have their moderators insights as well, and no one has a better understanding of each one's room ( and even forums) better than the room's moderators, and anyone that tells you different is lying. Why don't you trust your admins to make good decisions for the room/forums? If you cant let them do the volunteer job, why did you hire them? It reflects badly on you when an admin/room/forum mods have to say, nope i cant do it. If they are your staff they should be given access to the tools to do what they were put there to do. If they don't do it, remove them if you must, not punish the entire group. we've been through this before and we learned taking tools/options away only hurts this site, its users and its bottom line. And yes, it's hurting the bottom line, 15 forums users online at a time is borderline dead.
Why is it taking months to turn mods blue? If users cannot tell who's who in forums how are users supposed to take what a mod says seriously and get users to follow the rules. Why are mods modding the room before being turned blue in forums?
Again , on the far end here, a moderator and an admin admitted to running a script in forums this past weekend. Historically, they would have been removed and banned. You've removed and banned for posting a poem before, and script running is far far far worse.

Rules- Why is there suddenly an influx of new rules? There are rules and then there are CORE rules, have fun, don’t hack, no flashing pictures, C,F,N,R word isn't acceptable. Now other words are now added to that list. And it seems that other unknown;unnamed rules are being placed and enforced. Forum bans are inconsistent with the crime, as well as no warnings or use of the ban reason box. Lack of users kills a site but so does over moderation/rules. Why is common sense not used more often? Why is it not inferred it should be used 1st when making a moderation decision?

You and I(the cm name) have gotten along like oil and water and i won't be sorry for it nor will I expect it to change. C/A is no longer a priority to you,and we(i) get that. But if you want this site to survive until the end of the year you're going to have to listen to some of us and change some things on this site. Or you'll be left with the f%%k week bots and script kiddies, and will be more of a laughing stock than it already is.




i have copies(mainly stated because of point 1)
#FreeLuka
TL😀R then get out, doors <----------- i dont do it often anymore but when i do its f%%ked up and it needs a change.
 
Taking pot shots at all staff (again) diminishes any valid point you are trying to make. Anyway….I’ve never said that pointing out problems or making improvement suggestions is wrong. You paint a very dark picture and while some of it may be true, it’s not as doom and gloom as you say it is. At least in AC, we are trying to improve the user experience. Trying to improve how we moderate. And it’s working.
And just so you know, I don’t take anything for granted. I’m well aware that improvements have been made here and I appreciate that. ✌🏻
not pot shots if its true and accurate. weve seen how it goes when they are singled out. and because your reading comprehension level is still not at par going into the 4th page. read and read well where i stated admins and mods all over this site should be trusted with the tools and options to do the "job" properly. and where that wasnt a mod/admin issue. that was a cm issue.... one might actually call that advocating.
 
So for dummies , this is basically what went/goes on mostly in forums and how certain staff have made up their own rules not only in their room but here ( and YES proof can be provided ) it's mostly a forum thing about corruption when the powers that be keep the problem yet take away what's really needed.
 
So for dummies , this is basically what went/goes on mostly in forums and how certain staff have made up their own rules not only in their room but here ( and YES proof can be provided ) it's mostly a forum thing about corruption when the powers that be keep the problem yet take away what's really needed.
still dont think they will comprehend your summary. but there is hope.
 
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Please don’t preach to me about reading comprehension when you try using big words and fail.
“it was always there but not to this extent. its further exasperated because of site traffic needs…”
The word you were attempting to use is *exacerbated* 🤦🏻‍♂️

Anyway….you and your friends once again turn hostile and combative which makes those of us wanting to have a civil, adult conversation lose interest. Good luck with your thread ✌🏻
 
have you not seen my use of there their your youre.... omg you might just die and then roll over... dont much care though, just thought youd like to know youll come across it again so you can plan to be upset.

you werent into having an adult discussion or you wouldnt have nitpicked over numbers or tried to drag kim out into a fight about how AC is working well now vs in than in the past.

hate say this is an example, but its true. the site isnt running fine, mods dont have options, admins arent listened to or even acknowledged. Everyones entitled to an opinion and a voiced one at that, but the staff is so scared of saying anything they sit and suffer. admins and mods shouldnt be sitting and suffering. they should be out there having fun laughing and wanting to promote the site and its users instead of working a designated 9-5 shift, for a free "job".
 
Okay lets have a civil discussion. Point there is someone with certain powers that make forums and chat a toxic place for a lot of us. His behavior on forums have been questionable. For example one time quoting this person , I found my post edited. The reason given was that part of the post was meant for OP. So why put it in a public post. There is so much editing and this is done to cover up questionable things which are being brought up but not being addressed.
A point has been made that if I don't like what is going on why do I stay? The point is I should not have to leave. My point is forums needs to be expunged from this editing freak that makes up his own rules in forums. I will always fight for justice.
This site is not running fine. Well it may be for the select few who want forums and chat filled with their own yes men and women. But the numbers are significantly down. As it has been said these forums are dead unless you count one kid mod making their own thread and flooding it themselves. The only other time forums are busy if there is a thread about the not mentioned person which ultimately gets moved then closed.
 
well i appreciate them even if they are annoying and gif filled... means you took at least some time to read part of the thread to understand whats going on.
Om ... Ooooof ..Purplerose (Curtsies .. Bows Head) .. Please Excuse Me ..Apologies For The Frivolities, Just Trying To Lighten It Up A Tad

And Yes, I Have Read And I'm Quite Sure (And I'm Not Being Sarcastic) That Your Point To This Thread Is Most Assuredly Valid

Being Who You Are And Your Professional Experience Here On The "Ave" I've Always Been Impressed By Your Resume ... I'm Serious

And Never Forgetting What You Did For Me, And Most Of All, Your Sense Of Humor,

I Read lot's Of Your Posts, When You Get Going In A Cheeky Banter With One Of The Other Vets In Here ..

It's Awesome .. Creative, Sarcastic, And Funny, And The Way Some Of Those Read

It's Like In The Style Of A Haiku, I Love That, Luka Does That Too .. And Some Of The Other OG's From Back In The Day ...

Soooo .. Just Remember .. Cindy Always Got Chur Back ... An Dat's A Fact .. Cause I Never Fergits ...

Cat Spin GIF by Keanu Movie
Strait Outta Chat Ave 😎
 
scripts/programs have never been allowed. and a mod using them has been the worst of the worst.. whether for 1 thread/ 1 room or 2000 threads/20 rooms.

AND

dont lay this all on 0sen either.

this should be common sense. dont bring the site to its knees. but i do admit the fact that youve probably never been told, which lays on cm.
ill admit using a script to spam was rather stupid.
i should have known not to since its pretty much common sense never to spam on anywhere using a script but i did it anyway so in the end its my fault.

honestly suprised i didn't get banned and only received a warning
 
ill admit using a script to spam was rather stupid.
i should have known not to since its pretty much common sense never to spam on anywhere using a script but i did it anyway so in the end its my fault.

honestly suprised i didn't get banned and only received a warning
Good man, much respect for you putting your hand up and owning it.

Others should learn from you. *coughs* @Radiation *coughs*

But I am not here to say 'I told you so' ;-)
 
But will it ever change though purps will cm/admin listen i'm afraid it probably never will happen i agree with what you stated fully, i think cm expects too much to be honest you can't say boo because mods are afraid of getting fired, i totally agree on that.
 
Is the site running fine? Not my job to say. But reports of it's imminent demise seem to be greatly exaggerated. It's still a good site and the biggest rooms have loads of ********.

mods don't have options? Not sure what that means, but they do in fact have options.

"admins aren't listened to or even acknowledged." This is completely opposite to my personal experience. Being "listened to" doesn't mean upper has to agree or act on advice. When asked? I can get good advice. If something is "chat important" I get answers I can understand, and seem reasonable. If I ask for "help" I can get it. It is easier in my experience to be critical/complain than it is to find ways to solve issues or work with what we have. And sometimes ideas that "seem good" might just not be doable for reasons that are none ones "fault" Even if not popular to have enough humility to realize you can't always get what you want- I get the sense those that own the site have a good idea of what works or what won't.

Oil and water is one approach.

Another (better) approach imo is finding constructive ways to work with what we have- and creating a decent relationship with upper/owners to hopefully improve things where needed. So far so good from my little corner of the Avenue.

I do like the suggestion to make forums more visible, but given the chatrooms are where the users want to be, having good staff in room helping users is the easiest and best route imo. (or perhaps linking the 5 most useful forums on staff accounts- ie are you new/Announcements/SCandF /Kick/ban appeals/Tech Support.
 
"admins aren't listened to or even acknowledged." This is completely opposite to my personal experience. Being "listened to" doesn't mean upper has to agree or act on advice. When asked? I can get good advice. If something is "chat important" I get answers I can understand, and seem reasonable. If I ask for "help" I can get it.
you can post it or i can.. either your lying now to save face/ make it look like your in a better position (& i understand this), or you lied on the 25th.

think carefully, because i wont go to bat for you a 2nd time.
 
Imo purps is wrong about any imminent demise. The forum has been "nearing death" for over five years and it's still here. This place isn't going anywhere so long as the chats persist. But on the chats subject, the real question is by and large who is attracted to them? The sort of people you think you're an admin or mod to keep at bay from the "good people" are themselves the actual target market

Right mindset wrong diagnosis

The website is very much alive, it's just designed to proliferate degeneracy for profit and provide the very worst of society, the people whom you are sworn to defeat, a lasting platform. Because doing it that way makes money

Prove me wrong, get mods the ability to ban for longer than two hours
 
Imo purps is wrong about any imminent demise. The forum has been "nearing death" for over five years and it's still here. This place isn't going anywhere so long as the chats persist. But on the chats subject, the real question, is by and large who is attracted to them? The sort of people you think you're an admin or mod to keep at bay from the "good people" are themselves the actual target market

Right mindset wrong diagnosis

The website is very much alive, it's just designed to proliferate degeneracy for profit and provide the very worst of society, the people whom you are sworn to defeat, a lasting platform. Because doing it that way makes money

Prove me wrong, get mods the ability to ban for longer than two hours ago
i am wrong. we all know the bots/cam ho's never leave and load 1st into the room when it crashes so the place wont completely be empty but its not going in the right direction with genuine users and hasnt for a long time.
 
i am wrong. we all know the bots/cam ho's never leave and load 1st into the room when it crashes so the place wont completely be empty but its not going in the right direction with genuine users and hasnt for a long time.
See my post above your quoted one.
 
Prove me wrong, get mods the ability to ban for longer than two hours

They can, in certain rooms. Like kids chat.
I know you're a former mod of Boys chat, so you might not know, but I'm happy to inform you that some of us are able to kick for 6 hours max, at least in Kids chat!
Very helpful.
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