Open Letter

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purplerose

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Dear Site Admin, Cm(s)

Why have you let this site fail and fall into such disrepair?


Posts/Threads- Posts/Threads are ghost edited and closed for no reason. Many times not even breaking any rules. People with no concern with the forums ask for threads to be closed mid discussion most times, and it's done.
Why are posts/threads being deleted or moved to mod forums? especially when its not needed, and then having them be labeled “sensitive mod material” when it was clearly part of the discussion and no sensitive data was posted in open forums.
And then on the far end, users cannot use certain email truncation's to sign up or even contact you to alert you to issues with the site. Many times with issues going on days before action is taken. The fun threads are killed within 3 posts but the seriously, potentially serious threat threads are left for days.

Staff- It seems to be true that in SOME rooms a user must have VIP in order to become moderator? Basically what you/ the room admin are promoting is Pay To Play. Which makes it far less fair and balanced. not only for the other mods that have to work in the same room. but for the users they feel they wont get a fair decision when rules are broken. fair and balanced SHOULD be 1 of the qualities of a moderator, not their ability to pay. This site is missing out on some great moderators simply because they haven't paid (or paid recently).
Why do you treat the staff as they are poop on the bottom of your shoe? And no i certainly dont mean open an AMA or answer every single “HEY” pm. BUT you certainly should be answering your admins and reading what they say, not only do some have their rooms pulse , but most have their moderators insights as well, and no one has a better understanding of each one's room ( and even forums) better than the room's moderators, and anyone that tells you different is lying. Why don't you trust your admins to make good decisions for the room/forums? If you cant let them do the volunteer job, why did you hire them? It reflects badly on you when an admin/room/forum mods have to say, nope i cant do it. If they are your staff they should be given access to the tools to do what they were put there to do. If they don't do it, remove them if you must, not punish the entire group. we've been through this before and we learned taking tools/options away only hurts this site, its users and its bottom line. And yes, it's hurting the bottom line, 15 forums users online at a time is borderline dead.
Why is it taking months to turn mods blue? If users cannot tell who's who in forums how are users supposed to take what a mod says seriously and get users to follow the rules. Why are mods modding the room before being turned blue in forums?
Again , on the far end here, a moderator and an admin admitted to running a script in forums this past weekend. Historically, they would have been removed and banned. You've removed and banned for posting a poem before, and script running is far far far worse.

Rules- Why is there suddenly an influx of new rules? There are rules and then there are CORE rules, have fun, don’t hack, no flashing pictures, C,F,N,R word isn't acceptable. Now other words are now added to that list. And it seems that other unknown;unnamed rules are being placed and enforced. Forum bans are inconsistent with the crime, as well as no warnings or use of the ban reason box. Lack of users kills a site but so does over moderation/rules. Why is common sense not used more often? Why is it not inferred it should be used 1st when making a moderation decision?

You and I(the cm name) have gotten along like oil and water and i won't be sorry for it nor will I expect it to change. C/A is no longer a priority to you,and we(i) get that. But if you want this site to survive until the end of the year you're going to have to listen to some of us and change some things on this site. Or you'll be left with the f%%k week bots and script kiddies, and will be more of a laughing stock than it already is.




i have copies(mainly stated because of point 1)
#FreeLuka
TL😀R then get out, doors <----------- i dont do it often anymore but when i do its f%%ked up and it needs a change.
 
A few thoughts:
Yes, this site and pretty much any other successful chat site will never be able to completely get rid of undesirables, like pedos. I realize what I do is only band aids, but for me it’s better than nothing. And I’m ok with that.

And trying to get back to the OPs topic, there absolutely are changes that could improve the user/staff experience here. I’ve suggested some and many other people have also made suggestions over the years. But the owner(s) are the only one who can make those changes. If they choose not to, we all have the option to leave. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Staying here and constantly saying how bad the site is or constantly railing against the current staff seems counterproductive and a waste of people’s time. Life is short and as the great Warren Zevon said…….enjoy every sandwich. ✌🏻

Thanks for your input! It really helps!
 
I must say I’ve not spent much time reading the comments on this thread, a lot seems to be off-topic non sense. While I have spent the least time here, and most on sister sites, I can somewhat relate to some things that have been said. I have far less experience with this platform than many here so I understand if my points will come off as unreasonable, while that isn’t my intention.

I would start by pointing out it appears many of the active forum members have been around for many years, maybe even over a decade or two. While I don’t think they’re to be blamed for the current state of this platform, they certainly have had a great impact here. From the little I’ve seen, many admins have not been “brave” enough to question or argue against whatever decisions or guidelines they’ve been given. Many times, the higher up’s know what they’re doing, and it will be for the best in the long run. But definitely not always the case.

I don’t think anyone can argue the fact that social media platforms have more or less obliterated the appeal of going on a web browser to actively search for a chat site. That paired with how things are run to this day, I don’t see how any chat room would recover or even halt the slow but obvious downfall. Many new ideas, presented by younger generations that have a better clue of what’s trendy out in the world, are most often rejected, and many times even without hesitation. Again, I do I believe the higher ups know better from experience in some situations. But what I’ve seen and experienced, tells me the fear of change is greater than the progress of improvement.

I personally have never found any major interest in forums, especially not ones linked to chat rooms. To me, they’re only a tool to resolve issues, complaints and other concerns. But then I’ve mainly been around sister site forums, where it seems not even the higher ups care about what’s going on there. Well actually- they only use it for ad revenue, as the last 1-2 years, ****** ads have been clogging up the threads with drop-down ads interfering with the actual content, making it more of hassle than a joy to use.

I fear the same would happen to this forum eventually. Hopefully I’m wrong. Either way, my POV tells me there is no real effort put into welcoming, directing and engaging newcomers with the forums. My short experience with the teen room here proved me the users find the forum confusing, and I can’t say I disagree with them. I found it confusing too, and still do. Why? Because our lack of experience with forums. I don’t think it makes it better having all rooms share the same forum rather than separating them completely like on sister sites.

I have a lot to say, but I think I will stand down to see the response to this. Some here might know who I am, the majority I believe don’t know. If you do know, it will be easier to see where I’m coming from with this post. I don’t intend to bring up my backstory here. If anyone is actually interested in that they can dm me or reach out to me elsewhere. I have no intent to argue or convince anyone about anything, this post is just to share and gauge my brief experience with this topic.
 
thousands of ******** are not posting , or actively chatting. 400 ******** are not posting or actively chatting. ( granted some would be strictly in pm chatting) but if you went in and straight down the list you would find an uncountable amount of bots, advertising to draw users out of the chat rooms... and you wanna know what... they do. this site loses an immeasurable amount of users because of it. but if you want to believe they are all there because of the greatness of the chatroom and its staff... go be happy.
Literally every time I sign in as a guest (Hell yeah I lurk before I login to see if there's anyone I can be bothered with - there rarely is) I get 3-10 auto pm's from bots linking me to porn sites. Even when these are reported they don't get removed, lol.


We easily get a majourity lf VIP on singles. Bots/pedos are banned within a few hours of being decected and reporting to me. Number may have dropped yes ofc. Purple has been gone kver a year. The rooms finally like it once was under her. Knowing she gave it her all like I do. Knowing she had the rooms best interests at heart
Singles is a joke. If you think it's anywhere near on par with how Rose ran it, you're delusional. It's become a cesspit that most can't stand for longer than 5 minutes, and that includes some of your mods being more troll-like than the trolls. Any reg that didn't come over with you or that has been there longer than 18 months and they will tell you the same. I can log in and see known paedophiles, and trolling going on, including AussieSang on the list when she's KOS whilst your mods are in. You might want to rethink and take another look at your room.


Anyway….you and your friends once again turn hostile and combative which makes those of us wanting to have a civil, adult conversation lose interest. Good luck with your thread ✌🏻
Why does someone addressing real issues and showing concern make them "a gang" wouldn't that just mean you're part of an opposing gang - You know, the ones with questionable morals?


I have only been here for 4 or 5 years, previous account was Heathen, but in those 5ish years I have seen the same changes, so I can only imagine how people who have been here for 10 or plus years must feel. This is a social platform and people have formed friendships and bonds, some have even found a life partner and I can only imagine how disheartening is must be to watch it decline like it has

Yeah, it's sad what it's become. I've been here years on and off, and the decline seems to be steam rolling more and more quickly as of late. It's never been 100% perfect, we've always had some issues, but there's a reason that long term staff and members are leaving positions and the site. I can't blame them in any way. Seems they're penalised for standing up for things or questioning actions, too, which makes it even worse.


Hey boss. I just did a tour this evening, pmd no one. I believe there are realities you are not privy to as a staff member, or even as a registered chatter. I will share my experience from the first (and only) thirty seconds I perused General Chat. I would like to reiterate that this occurred within thirty seconds.

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This excludes similar content from the main chat area. The website is unwell, but at least it is profitable.

There is no age verification process and no other filtration mechanism to enter this chat. You click a button and you get in.
Lol - This is what I was talking about further up my post. It happens in any room I guest up in. Worrying at the best of times, horrific when it's a room where there's underage children populating it.

While I don’t think they’re to be blamed for the current state of this platform, they certainly have had a great impact here. From the little I’ve seen, many admins have not been “brave” enough to question or argue against whatever decisions or guidelines they’ve been given
Plenty admins/mods/users have been brave enough, they were banned from the site and removed from their positions because the safety of the sites users aren't as important as monetary revenue for them and it's been a long time since that wasn't the case.



Anyway, can't exactly argue with what Rose said, to be honest. The site is declining, and in the era we're in, that was always going to happen, but helping it along by inviting trolls, paedophiles, sex bots, and the sort to roam freely doesn't seem like you're going to help it nor does it make it look like you care about people. All you have to do is look at the time we showed up on a TV show about child grooming, or look at the videos uploaded on to ******* where you can openly see it happening.

Sad that plenty people are willing to avert their gaze and say "No, it's not happening" then bring that same denial into a forum post and try to imply someone is bitter for addressing concerns any human with empathy for others would have. Maybe if she paid her VIP more regularly, she'd be listened to. 🤷‍♀️
 
Plenty admins/mods/users have been brave enough, they were banned from the site and removed from their positions because the safety of the sites users aren't as important as monetary revenue for them and it's been a long time since that wasn't the case.
I am aware many speak up. From experience too. But generally, most would rather stay in their lane than risk their position. Admins have a great opportunity to affect decisions from higher up. Not just question but even argue against, stating several points. I do think most admins have questioned new directions and guidelines once in a while but I have a feeling most haven’t tried going as far as pushing the absolute limit, without violating any rules. That’s what I thought of when writing the earlier post.
I do admire those who actually have tried to stand up against unreasonable decisions. As long as they stay true to their claims and don’t just spit out claims crafted from personal grudges.

I remember there was a short period on the sister sites I administered where we’d have no bots flooding your pms as soon as you entered the room. Unfortunately that ended some months ago. Not to say the bot issues have ever been solved, but you can tell when it’s getting worse. Even guests can see how bad it is.
 
Admins have a great opportunity to affect decisions from higher up. Not just question but even argue against, stating several points.
They have no power, and if they argue against things, they're removed from admin positions for people who paid for admin positions.

without violating any rules
They don't need to break rules to be removed/banned/both. More to the point, how is reporting paedophiles and arguing they should be removed bannable? That's actually happened. If just being a human who is concerned for the safety of children gets them banned (wouldn't a person seeing it IRL and not reporting it to police be negligent? So why is ACTUALLY reporting it here seen as a slight against the site) imagine how little he cares about admins wanting trolls and bots removed. Admins have less and less power as time goes on, and CM doesn't want to do anything to pick up the slack he's causing.... Which is exactly Rose's point. And why would anyone kick up a fuss if they're seeing no changes being made after others made such an effort?

Which sister sites are you talking about, and why didn't it last?
 
They have no power, and if they argue against things, they're removed from admin positions for people who paid for admin positions.
Not always the case. All admins have some say. In which degree varies. I had countless conversations repeating same disagreements yet that wasn’t what caused my removal.

Admins have less and less power as time goes on, and CM doesn't want to do anything to pick up the slack he's causing.... Which is exactly Rose's point.
Keep in mind CM is not the only responsible here.

And why would anyone kick up a fuss if they're seeing no changes being made after others made such an effort?

Which sister sites are you talking about, and why didn't it last?
With that mindset, I doubt this thread would be active. Changes are made in various rooms, whether good or bad. They may not be frequent or drastic though.

Rest I’ll let be unsaid
 
That fool really said Singles Chat is run just like it was when Purplerose ran it. How disconnected from reality do you have to be? 9/10 times no mod is on tge list because they're invisible and the room is going haywire
 
I'm so glad that Rosie and her sinful crew will realize soon that no matter what they do and vote, places like this aren't democracies.
dumb - Dumbsters, this is Autocracy.

I do not understand why Rosie thinks she can lead the revolution against the admins and the chat master when she did the same thing to me while she was an admin before I was banned.
Karmaaaaaaa?
It's like she is copying all my efforts when I was opening many topics and making her run all the time after me - sweeping with her broom.🤣
Rosie and the lost crew... leave stop complaining.
When you were a relevant factor you did the same thing to some members...

Take my example, just get lost, leave, or something, when you see that you can't change things to your own liking... stop whining - that's not sexy.😉
 
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