All differences aside, let's please pray for Israel and what their people are going through right now.
@0EmmaUK0 You laughed at this with your emoji 🤣. NOT FUNNY!All differences aside, let's please pray for Israel and what their people are going through right now.
British Mandate for Palestine:In the aftermath of World War I, the League of Nations granted Britain the mandate to administer the territory of Palestine, which at the time included what is now Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza Strip. This mandate lasted from 1920 to 1948.
Balfour Declaration:In 1917, the British government issued the Balfour Declaration, which expressed support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine. This declaration has had a lasting impact on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Partition Plan:In 1947, the United Nations proposed a partition plan that would have divided Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states, with an international administration for Jerusalem. This plan was accepted by the Jewish leadership but rejected by Arab leaders. After the British mandate ended in 1948, Israel declared independence, leading to a war with its Arab neighbors.
Israeli Settlements:Israeli settlements are communities of Israeli citizens that have been established in territories that Israel captured during the 1967 Six-Day War, including the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip. The establishment and expansion of these settlements have been a major point of contention between Israelis and Palestinians.
Israeli Occupation:The Israeli occupation refers to Israel's control over these territories, which has been in place since 1967. The international community, including the United Nations, considers this occupation to be a violation of international law. The UN Security Council passed Resolution 242 and 338, calling for Israel to withdraw from the territories it occupied in 1967.
United Nations (UN) Position:The United Nations, through various resolutions, has consistently condemned Israeli settlements and the occupation. The UN Security Council, in particular, has passed numerous resolutions calling for a two-state solution, the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel, and the end of the occupation.
Peace Process:The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has seen numerous attempts at a peace process, with negotiations focusing on issues such as the status of settlements, borders, the right of return for Palestinian refugees, security, and Jerusalem. The Oslo Accords in the 1990s marked a significant step toward a possible resolution, but the peace process has faced many obstacles and setbacks over the years.
Controversy and Disputes:The construction and expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, in particular, have been a source of controversy and a major point of contention in negotiations. Many in the international community argue that these settlements hinder the prospects for a two-state solution, as they are often seen as encroachments on land that could be part of a future Palestinian state.
UK's Position:The United Kingdom has historically played a role in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict due to its historical connection with the region, including the Balfour Declaration. The UK has expressed support for a two-state solution and has criticized Israeli settlements. However, the specifics of its policies may have evolved over time and may differ based on the government in power.
- Ancient Israel: Jews have a deep historical connection to the land of Israel, which dates back over 3,000 years. The biblical account describes the Jewish people's settlement in the land of Canaan, and this is a central theme in Jewish history and identity.
- Babylonian Exile: In the 6th century BCE, the Babylonians conquered the Kingdom of Judah, leading to the Babylonian Exile, during which many Jews were taken to Babylon. After the Babylonian Empire fell, some Jews returned to the land of Israel.
- Roman Period: The Romans conquered Jerusalem in 70 CE and destroyed the Second Temple. This event is often considered the beginning of the Jewish Diaspora, as many Jews were dispersed throughout the Roman Empire.
- Ottoman Empire: From the 16th to the early 20th century, the land of Israel was under Ottoman rule, and there was a Jewish presence in some of the cities and towns.
- Zionist Movement: In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the Zionist movement emerged, which sought to establish a Jewish homeland in the land of Israel. This movement gained momentum over time.
- British Mandate for Palestine: After World War I, the League of Nations granted the United Kingdom a mandate to govern Palestine. During this period, Jewish immigration to the region increased.
- State of Israel: In 1947, the United Nations passed a resolution recommending the partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states. On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, declared the establishment of the State of Israel. This event marked the beginning of modern Israel.
Europe: Many Jewish immigrants came from Eastern and Central Europe, where they were facing increasing persecution and anti-Semitism, particularly in the early 20th century. The aftermath of World War I and the collapse of empires, such as the Russian and Austro-Hungarian empires, led to greater migration.
Middle East and North Africa: Some Jews also migrated to Palestine from other countries in the Middle East and North Africa, driven by a variety of factors, including economic opportunities and the desire to live in the emerging Jewish homeland.
Diaspora: Jewish communities in the diaspora worldwide also supported the Zionist movement and contributed to the population growth in Palestine.
Canaan: The earliest settlements of the Israelites were in the region of Canaan, which encompassed parts of modern Israel, Palestine, Jordan, and Lebanon.
Kingdom of Israel and Kingdom of Judah: Ancient Israel eventually split into two separate kingdoms. The northern kingdom, known as the Kingdom of Israel, had its capital in Samaria. The southern kingdom, known as the Kingdom of Judah, had its capital in Jerusalem.
Judah and Jerusalem: Jerusalem, in particular, holds immense significance in the history of ancient Israel as it was the religious and political center, especially for the Kingdom of Judah. It is where the First and Second Temples were constructed.
Neighboring Regions: The influence of ancient Israel extended into neighboring regions, and conflicts and interactions with other nations, such as the Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonians, and Persians, played a crucial role in the history of the Israelites.
I agree on this bit. As Confucius once said: "If you are going to plot revenge, dig two graves". In an ideal world, this would not happen. But welcome to humanity.Indeed. Atrocity does not excuse atrocity.
A better idea is to re read the points chatgpt presented ...
Lets add to the prayer that all war ends
then i pray for your souli'm going to pray the war escalates,
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I don’t believe you really mean that. You can’t pray that more innocent lives are taken. Children. So many innocent lives have been lost including children who have been butchered. You’re better than that. Don’t ask or pray for that to continue. There’s a lot of blame to go round, but don’t ask for more bloodshed. Just take a deep breath and a step back and think of all the innocent people who just want to live their lives and protect their families. Praying for escalation is the same as praying for their deaths. Don’t do that. Again, you’re better than that. I know our passion can lead us to say things.....lord knows I’m guilty of it. But please reconsider what you’re asking for. 😌i'm going to pray the war escalates,
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I don’t believe you really mean that. You can’t pray that more innocent lives are taken. Children. So many innocent lives have been lost including children who have been butchered. You’re better than that. Don’t ask or pray for that to continue. There’s a lot of blame to go round, but don’t ask for more bloodshed. Just take a deep breath and a step back and think of all the innocent people who just want to live their lives and protect their families. Praying for escalation is the same as praying for their deaths. Don’t do that. Again, you’re better than that. I know our passion can lead us to say things.....lord knows I’m guilty of it. But please reconsider what you’re asking for. 😌
There's no legacy in these families no more*It really saddens me that some people are actually that brainwashed thinking that Hamas's move was a form of terrorism, it was never a country for Israelis, Its called PALESTINE and not Israel.
Its been 60+ years since the Israelis started kicking People out of their homes, and its still happening till this day, at this moment of me typing this people in Hamas, Gaza, el Defa etc etc, are getting murdered, bombed, stabbed and the most important part of whats happening to them is that every Palestinian refugee, or even the people that still live in Palestine and didnt get thrown out of their OWN rightful Country that got killed are officially martyrs, and noone can take that away from them, Palestinian families from all over the world hearing that their families are dying, and cant do anything and even the Arab countries, traitors who gave up on a Country that they all once loved and sided with Israel and what they're doing.
And, the war that started, it was destined to happen, because all the Palestinians are just tired, tired and exhausted of all these years of humiliation, their women, children , men and families, getting humiliated Infront of the enemy, they're just tired of all of this massacre thats been going on for years and years, too many decades, too many deaths, and you know what the " Israelis " that people sided with did? Apart from everything, they removed twenty five families off of the city passports, there's no legacy in this family <---, its completely <- vanished off of the records and because of who? Because they decided to bomb buildings.
Gaza was a beautiful part of Palestine, and there are videos of it before what the enemy did, and now? Its completely gone, THERE'S NO green in it, its all ashes and black, nothing else. They're trying to remove Gaza off of the map, but they'll never succeed because it'll always stay in the people's hearts that are not actually brainwashed to think and believe that Palestinians are the energy. <--
It really saddens me that some people are actually that brainwashed thinking that Hamas's move was a form of terrorism, it was never a country for Israelis, Its called PALESTINE and not Israel.
Its been 60+ years since the Israelis started kicking People out of their homes, and its still happening till this day, at this moment of me typing this people in Hamas, Gaza, el Defa etc etc, are getting murdered, bombed, stabbed and the most important part of whats happening to them is that every Palestinian refugee, or even the people that still live in Palestine and didnt get thrown out of their OWN rightful Country that got killed are officially martyrs, and noone can take that away from them, Palestinian families from all over the world hearing that their families are dying, and cant do anything and even the Arab countries, traitors who gave up on a Country that they all once loved and sided with Israel and what they're doing.
And, the war that started, it was destined to happen, because all the Palestinians are just tired, tired and exhausted of all these years of humiliation, their women, children , men and families, getting humiliated Infront of the enemy, they're just tired of all of this massacre thats been going on for years and years, too many decades, too many deaths, and you know what the " Israelis " that people sided with did? Apart from everything, they removed twenty five families off of the city passports, there's no legacy in this family, its completely vanished off of the records and because of who? Because they decided to bomb buildings.
Gaza was a beautiful part of Palestine, and there are videos of it before what the enemy did, and now? Its completely gone, THERE'S NO green in it, its all ashes and black, nothing else. They're trying to remove Gaza off of the map, but they'll never succeed because it'll always stay in the people's hearts that are not actually brainwashed to think and believe that Palestinians are the energy.
Believe whatever you want or like, but as much as you try to make other people believe and argue about it, one of the Israelis that lives outside of Jerusalem, got a viral video of him/her i dont remember exactly, and said that even in the Torah its says that the Israelis do NOT have a country, and if what your saying is TRUE ( which it is not ) noone is conforming that, not even the Israeli television, Israeli national people, came to Palestine and took it, each and every decade since 1948 Palestine has been getting worse and worse.i guess you never heard of judea of rome, which is modern day israel established as land for the jews where they work as rome’s bankers in exchange rome defends judea from invaders…
it wasn’t until the fall of the byzantine empire thousands of years after judaism came to be, that the ottoman muslims conquered that land & coined it palestine…
the original 12 tribes of ISRAEL has its origins directly in Jerusalem & judaism predates Islam by at least 4 thousand years…
israel was always for the israeli jews, palestinians are the outsiders…
muslims has their holy land, & thats mecca in saudi arabia not fuckin’ JERUSALEM
I don’t think you’re crazy 🙂. Tho I do think we may be seeing the beginnings of WW3 sooner than later. I hope not thothis is the opening act of the war mentioned in revelations, dont u see???
the creation of a purely jewish state in the holy land, the rising of the third temple of solomon & the end of days that follows…
the three kingdoms of the east (china), the north (russia), & the west (nato) will sleep walk into war & spread hellfire across the earth, babe….
clashing in the middle kingdom that is jerusalem, wat u see is the opening act of prophecy…
ive been telling u all that the world has already ended, youre all only just seeing it now bc the symptoms of the apocalypse are ever more apparent, but i’ve long known… my dolls confided this to me, & i can smell the mysticism & decay in the atmosphere…
no, im not crazy 🖕🏻
You’re an atheist. Why would you care?I'm not praying for anything. I'm an atheist. I'm espousing the belief that Israel is reaping what it has sown. Israel is not synonymous with Judaism.
I don’t think you’re crazy 🙂. Tho I do think we may be seeing the beginnings of WW3 sooner than later. I hope not tho
Because atheism does not preclude ethicality? I'm a good person because I believe it is right to be, not because magic sky god man threatens me with eternal punishment if I am not.You’re an atheist. Why would you care?
Don't try and conflate the Israel-Palestine conflict with the Russian-Ukrainian one. Those conflicts are vastly different and the outcome of the two outcomes will be vastly different.the legalization of the terrorist occupation of Palestine is a war crime. If you want to confirm my words, look at the war in Ukraine.
In the case of Ukraine, you give weapons to the Ukrainian army to confront the Russian occupation, which you called a terrorist occupation
even though it does not target civilians and does not kill thousands of children under false and cowardly pretexts, such as self-defense, as the terrorist occupation army does in Palestine
but this is your position supporting the Ukrainian resistance against the Russian occupation, and this is It is a legitimate matter according to international law, and between fighting and killing the Palestinian resistance after portraying them as just pure terrorism with millions of Palestinian civilians with them, and standing with the occupier, this is not only against international law, but rather it is participation in war crimes.
Let’s hope we’re both wrong. I hope so. You’re young, I’m young, we both have long lives ahead of us hopefully. I’m hoping for at least another 60 years in this life and more for you. Don’t give up hope. Without hope there’s nothing. Peace and the future is built on hope. 😊we are, this is the dawn of the apocalypse
it’s all been prophesied in just about every end time scenario, written in every religious text throughout history & every culture that has ever existed…
this isnt merely a biblical revelation, u can smell the decay & hear the trumpets in the air… could be the first, could be the last…
welcome to the age of aquarius, babe ♒️
WW3 would be the best thing to happen anyway. I hope it happens tbh.I do think we may be seeing the beginnings of WW3 sooner than later. I hope not tho
I understand violence. I have witnessed 2 wars first hand. don't talk about me if you don't even know me.Anyone who hopes for war has not seen war first hand and has literally no understanding of violence first hand. Just saying. People who talk about violence as if it’s something to aspire to or be hyped about only acts that way until they meet it in person. And then they wish that it had never happened to them. .
Alright. Pony up. Which two wars ?I understand violence. I have witnessed 2 wars first hand. don't talk about me if you don't even know me.
And. You’ve witnessed ? ExplainI understand violence. I have witnessed 2 wars first hand. don't talk about me if you don't even know me.
Why the phuck would you actually hope for a world war? Have you learned nothing from history? Your ignorance blinds youWW3 would be the best thing to happen anyway. I hope it happens tbh.
I witnessed my father, sister, brothers and most of my family get blown up, shot by Americans. innocent people getting killed for nothing. I want to see America fall at its knees for killing my family, many other people in all countries. that is why I hope for WW3, I hope America gets a taste of its own medicine and gets destroyed.And. You’ve witnessed ? Explain
In what war? What conflict?I witnessed my father, sister, brothers and most of my family get blown up, shot by Americans. innocent people getting killed for nothing. I want to see America fall at its knees for killing my family, many other people in all countries. that is why I hope for WW3, I hope America gets a taste of its own medicine and gets destroyed.
I witnessed my father, sister, brothers and most of my family get blown up, shot by Americans. innocent people getting killed for nothing. I want to see America fall at its knees for killing my family, many other people in all countries. that is why I hope for WW3, I hope America gets a taste of its own medicine and gets destroyed.
My heart hurts for and with you. You’ve really just proven my point though. The average person is not a war monger. And. As an American, I can honestly say that I had no say in the violence visited on your family, nor would I have condoned it if I did. . Can’t really say that I would have felt any different than you if I had been visited by such violence… my point is that senseless violence is something that humans need to steer clear of, collectively, and that the vast majority of violence is senseless..I witnessed my father, sister, brothers and most of my family get blown up, shot by Americans. innocent people getting killed for nothing. I want to see America fall at its knees for killing my family, many other people in all countries. that is why I hope for WW3, I hope America gets a taste of its own medicine and gets destroyed.
I agree, don't blame Americans, people like you are fine. it's the soldiers, generals in the war, the corrupt and bad ones of any country. they should all pay for their devastation, with either their life or life in prison.My heart hurts for and with you. You’ve really just proven my point though. The average person is not a war monger. And. As an American, I can honestly say that I had no say in the violence visited on your family, nor would I have condoned it if I did. . Can’t really say that I would have felt any different than you if I had been visited by such violence… my point is that senseless violence is something that humans need to steer clear of, collectively, and that the vast majority of violence is senseless..
O....k........this is the opening act of the war mentioned in revelations, dont u see???
the creation of a purely jewish state in the holy land, the rising of the third temple of solomon & the end of days that follows…
the three kingdoms of the east (china), the north (russia), & the west (nato) will sleep walk into war & spread hellfire across the earth, babe….
clashing in the middle kingdom that is jerusalem, wat u see is the opening act of prophecy…
ive been telling u all that the world has already ended, youre all only just seeing it now bc the symptoms of the apocalypse are ever more apparent, but i’ve long known… my dolls confided this to me, & i can smell the mysticism & decay in the atmosphere…
no, im not crazy 🖕🏻
We only get strongerI witnessed my father, sister, brothers and most of my family get blown up, shot by Americans. innocent people getting killed for nothing. I want to see America fall at its knees for killing my family, many other people in all countries. that is why I hope for WW3, I hope America gets a taste of its own medicine and gets destroyed.
I guess you did not hear about Hamas launched 5000 missiles into Israel on October 7th, and they were in Israel beheading babies and raping women and girls and burning them alive that day as well. I guess that is not terrorism to you.It really saddens me that some people are actually that brainwashed thinking that Hamas's move was a form of terrorism, it was never a country for Israelis, Its called PALESTINE and not Israel.
Its been 60+ years since the Israelis started kicking People out of their homes, and its still happening till this day, at this moment of me typing this people in Hamas, Gaza, el Defa etc etc, are getting murdered, bombed, stabbed and the most important part of whats happening to them is that every Palestinian refugee, or even the people that still live in Palestine and didnt get thrown out of their OWN rightful Country that got killed are officially martyrs, and noone can take that away from them, Palestinian families from all over the world hearing that their families are dying, and cant do anything and even the Arab countries, traitors who gave up on a Country that they all once loved and sided with Israel and what they're doing.
And, the war that started, it was destined to happen, because all the Palestinians are just tired, tired and exhausted of all these years of humiliation, their women, children , men and families, getting humiliated Infront of the enemy, they're just tired of all of this massacre thats been going on for years and years, too many decades, too many deaths, and you know what the " Israelis " that people sided with did? Apart from everything, they removed twenty five families off of the city passports, there's no legacy in this family, its completely vanished off of the records and because of who? Because they decided to bomb buildings.
Gaza was a beautiful part of Palestine, and there are videos of it before what the enemy did, and now? Its completely gone, THERE'S NO green in it, its all ashes and black, nothing else. They're trying to remove Gaza off of the map, but they'll never succeed because it'll always stay in the people's hearts that are not actually brainwashed to think and believe that Palestinians are the energy.
There's no legacy in these families no more*
It completely vanished*
Enemy*
By another Moderator no less tooCan a forum moderator lock this thread? Wasn't meant to be a debate or argument thread, but terrorist sympathizers had to come and stink this thread up. It's long been derailed.
Israel is not the problem and never was, the problem has always been Hamas. Not the people of Palestine, going back to old maps or timelines and saying dur we were here first, means jack ****. If it meant anything, then everyone on the planet needs to respectively go back to their country of origin. If one wants to be as stupid as possible.
All the bloodshed in Israel and Palestine right now is completely on the hands of Hamas. And Hamas is nothing short of a true neo nazi regime.
Hopefully, when Hamas is completely destroyed, Israel will leave Palestine alone, but it all just depends on how the people of Palestine react. If they continue to spew the hate that Hamas taught them, they may just lose everything.
Either way, Israel has every right to defend itself from Hamas and any other country that wants to destroy it.
And it would do peaceful Muslims in America good to show that Hamas and other terrorist groups that claim to be Muslim, do not represent Islam, they should be coming out in force just has the pro-hamas people have.
I suspect that as well, but the optimal outcome would be that Israel lets Palestine remain, but I think things are way past the point of no return, and the good people of Palestine have no one to blame but Hamas and those who supported Hamas.there wont be a palestine after this,
hamas ruined that for them, israel is going to now seige the entirety of gaza & the west bank
promises
Lots of antisemitic rhetoric in this thread. Uncalled for.
Judaism: Judaism is one of the world's oldest monotheistic religions and is primarily associated with the Hebrew people. It is based on the sacred texts of the Torah and the Talmud and centers around the worship of one God, Yahweh. The Western Wall in Jerusalem is one of its most sacred sites.
Christianity: Christianity evolved from Judaism and is centered around the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. It is a monotheistic religion that believes in the Holy Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). The Bible, including the Old and New Testaments, is its sacred text.
Islam: Islam emerged in the Arabian Peninsula in the 7th century CE, and it is based on the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad as recorded in the Quran. It is a monotheistic religion that emphasizes submission to the will of Allah (God) and has various branches and sects, with Sunni and Shia being the two largest.
I suspect that as well, but the optimal outcome would be that Israel lets Palestine remain, but I think things are way past the point of no return, and the good people of Palestine have no one to blame but Hamas and those who supported Hamas.
get ready for the first jewish state, & the coming symptoms of the apocalypse ✌🏻