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H.R. PufnStuf

H.R. PufnStuf

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Report nudity to the mods who will kick offenders .-and are . aware to up kick times for repeat offenders.

Nudity is not porn, and likely not bannable. use the ignore feature. report nudity to mods by flag, staff cannot be there 24-7 and I no longer do day to day modding---- if you want ******** banned for ..simple nudity you will need to have the boss tell me that because as far as I know thats not likely going to happen. Try calming down and if you repost ..and do not post personal information in these forums if you are so traumatized by addresses then dont repost them.

edit for clarity: Neither Simple Nudity or porn are allowed in this room. How we deal with either is different depending on severity etc

Every chatter posting phone numbers etc has been kicked by mods so that makes it clear the complaint is more one group wants a chatter banned than anyone caring about the room or its rules.

Wildwestwanderer aka ocean minded- is so concerned with nudity...then why has he posted his pelvis in your room for. months- and interesting his very good pal drew-piladieis-another ex mod who simply could not follow directions and was kick happy .... they make interesting bed fellows. Drama is all they want and their crocodile tears dont fool me or anyone who knows our room.

The mods of Gen chat are doing exactly what they should do which is why they are not ex mods like the two i mentioned. Also i find this so called crisis probably specious as not one chatter has sent me a flag-which tells me the mods are doing their jobs well.

Cozmokittee? just feeding drama. Another ex that would kick so many so fast she would be fired yet again- no you cant be a mod!

edit: was just in room- piladeis and pal ocean minded have no flagged one of the skimpy outfits being gifed. Smokey spoken to- and he denies posting anything like the ex mods say he did, and I note- no proof shown to me by anyone.

I do not ban on the word of known trolls, or ex mods or by any chatter without proof. And before I take any action like banning, I will investigate and warn where appropriate. This site does not want mods who robotically kick or admins who hand out bans without a second thought.

@Kim @purplerose OP answered this can be closed and if any gen ******** post on your forums nudity-porn or addresses etc feel free gto take any action you need to :) thank you
 
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I wasn't going to involve myself in these recent forum posts but seeing as my name is now being dropped anyway, here we go.

I stopped reporting and flagging because I was made fun of for doing such things, being called a mini-mod and other such bullshit rhetoric. This forum is a great example of this, I'm a very evidence based guy, when I saw a 22 year old soliciting sex from a 15 year old, I took screenshots that were time stamped and provided them in a private message, exactly what you ask us to do. That is not just "the word" of someone when you can verify this yourself using your very own chat logs and to prove the SSs were not doctored.

And even after following these directions, I'm now having my name flung around the forums. Since when did disliking sex offenders and child molesters become a bad thing? Why is this suddenly a "crocodile tear" thing and not being a normal, decent human being?

Again, I think you're completely missing the point of these complaints and labelling any criticism you don't like as "trolling". It's ridiculous and dehumanising. Every complaint that we've taken to management recently has been dismissed as "not a death sentence". You realise 99% of bad things that happen in this world isn't a death sentence, right?

Is this not a blatant contradiction to say that "Nudity is not porn" yet criticise us for not reporting "skimpy" outfits? It seems like you cant win here, damned if you do, damned if you don't. So are skimpy outfits allowed or not, because i've seen apple pie DIRECTLY ask if its ok to post these gifs, being given "1 minute of free-for-all" gif posting of skimpy outfits.

I have so, so many things I want to say but I feel as though its useless and will be hand waved regardless.
 
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I think a lot of regular ******** actually agree that the way this place is run is getting worse. I mean did anyone read Black Raidah's post where he admitted to trying to solicit sexual things from underage ********? Not to mention how every time someone has an opinion on the safety of others in the chat they're dismissed as being cry babies, angry ex mods etc etc. It's gotten so bad lately and honestly with the way HR has been presenting in chat I'm concerned about his ability to be an impartial and fair admin. It really does seem like he's cracking under any scrutiny of his methods.
 
Schism said:
I think a lot of regular ******** actually agree that the way this place is run is getting worse. I mean did anyone read Black Raidah's post where he admitted to trying to solicit sexual things from underage ********? Not to mention how every time someone has an opinion on the safety of others in the chat they're dismissed as being cry babies, angry ex mods etc etc. It's gotten so bad lately and honestly with the way HR has been presenting in chat I'm concerned about his ability to be an impartial and fair admin. It really does seem like he's cracking under any scrutiny of his methods.
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Kick me again for posting links to forums. PLEASE! I'm gonna get myself banned over this and I really can't give a ****, but if you care about this chat not being overrun by literal fucking retards follow this link and make a comment: https://forum.chat-avenue.com/threads/re-im-sick-of-it.936534/
 
Well then, isn't this interesting. Did you...perhaps...just maaaybe forget this? I think you did. Let me remind you.
Edit : Mini refering to "Minimodding" in the sence that the admin can grant me modship directly in the room without CMs knowledge or permission, effectively skipping the mod limit.
https://imgur.com/J90Tqe2

Let me also remind you that we're asking for bans on people who have been doxxing each other and their targets FAMILIES, not just the issues we've had with nudes being spread. Nudity isn't allowed in there because there's kids in there, HR. Plain and simple. We're not asking for the world, we're just asking you do SOMETHING about the absolute hell that is going on.


Oh and one more thing, HR, I've quit all three times I've stopped modding.=3 Glad to see you're following the trolls tall tales of all mods are fired, looks real good on you.
 
HR man, I know it's you kicking me on chat right now for posting a link to this forum post.
It's fine though, even though it's known that posting links to forums on General is not a kickable offense. Are you ashamed of something you've said here or something? That's what the edit button is for, not the kick button.
This post makes me pretty much 100% sure you've not asked a single one of the mods you're in charge of about this whole issue. If you had they would tell you that they've been kicking Smokey for posting screenshots of him talking to the families of ******** on Facebook, posting their private photos and plastering chat with photos of popo's fully frontal nudes. ******** get kicked for posting girls in bikinis but when ******** are sick of a chatter posting fully frontal nudes of a chatter with his penis in full clear view in a room meant for 13 yos and up, that's not so bad. And you don't ask the mods, who you can supposedly trust, you ask the person posting the offensive content. How does that make sense? Of course anyone would tell lies in the face of punitive action so they can continue with their activity. It's not the first time a chatter has been known to pull this on you.
If you don't want to believe Drew or Ocean or Cozmo about this- Ask Badger, TOC or Rapi. They will tell you that they're sick of kicking the same 3 ******** every damned day for this same nonsense.
 
PLEIAÐES said:
I wasn't going to involve myself in these recent forum posts but seeing as my name is now being dropped anyway, here we go.

I stopped reporting and flagging because I was made fun of for doing such things, being called a mini-mod and other such bullshit rhetoric. This forum is a great example of this, I'm a very evidence based guy, when I saw a 22 year old soliciting sex from a 15 year old, I took screenshots that were time stamped and provided them in a private message, exactly what you ask us to do. That is not just "the word" of someone when you can verify this yourself using your very own chat logs and to prove the SSs were not doctored.

And even after following these directions, I'm now having my name flung around the forums. Since when did disliking sex offenders and child molesters become a bad thing? Why is this suddenly a "crocodile tear" thing and not being a normal, decent human being?

Again, I think you're completely missing the point of these complaints and labelling any criticism you don't like as "trolling". It's ridiculous and dehumanising. Every complaint that we've taken to management recently has been dismissed as "not a death sentence". You realise 99% of bad things that happen in this world isn't a death sentence, right?

Is this not a blatant contradiction to say that "Nudity is not porn" yet criticise us for not reporting "skimpy" outfits? It seems like you cant win here, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I have so, so many things I want to say but I feel as though its useless and will be hand waved regardless.
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your complaints are based on wanting disliked ******** banned for your selfish reasons. You lack people skills, and thats why you cant fathom why things have to go a certain way. Life isnt a test tube. And yes you are who your friends are. And remember tghe sword you ask me to draw is 2 edged, the processes in place prevent me from banning a chatter found in another room for example. Thts why your concern is phoney you want your enemies treated harshly on offhanded remarks-ss yet turn a blind eye to other SS of interesting things.

Its obvious that you are incapable of grasping the irony of being ok with skimpy suits but outraged with your enemy. WE follow guidliners here- not known failures at modding. Or like schism who just
Schism said:
I think a lot of regular ******** actually agree that the way this place is run is getting worse. I mean did anyone read Black Raidah's post where he admitted to trying to solicit sexual things from underage ********? Not to mention how every time someone has an opinion on the safety of others in the chat they're dismissed as being cry babies, angry ex mods etc etc. It's gotten so bad lately and honestly with the way HR has been presenting in chat I'm concerned about his ability to be an impartial and fair admin. It really does seem like he's cracking under any scrutiny of his methods.
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Hello schism, how is your petition to get the c bomb allowed in our room?
IsThisFun said:
HR man, I know it's you kicking me on chat right now for posting a link to this forum post.
It's fine though, even though it's known that posting links to forums on General is not a kickable offense. Are you ashamed of something you've said here or something? That's what the edit button is for, not the kick button.
This post makes me pretty much 100% sure you've not asked a single one of the mods you're in charge of about this whole issue. If you had they would tell you that they've been kicking Smokey for posting screenshots of him talking to the families of ******** on Facebook, posting their private photos and plastering chat with photos of popo's fully frontal nudes. ******** get kicked for posting girls in bikinis but when ******** are sick of a chatter posting fully frontal nudes of a chatter with his penis in full clear view in a room meant for 13 yos and up, that's not so bad. And you don't ask the mods, who you can supposedly trust, you ask the person posting the offensive content. How does that make sense? Of course anyone would tell lies in the face of punitive action so they can continue with their activity. It's not the first time a chatter has been known to pull this on you.
If you don't want to believe Drew or Ocean or Cozmo about this- Ask Badger, TOC or Rapi. They will tell you that they're sick of kicking the same 3 ******** every damned day for this same nonsense.
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you cant spam our room plain and simple
 
HR - I’ve done this in pm.
You know that this is going on. Your rules even mention excessive doxxing is a ban. Your mods kick everyday the same people for doxxing.
If you check the kick history - you will see it too. The mods will tell you.

I’m being told in PM to maybe find another room because I’m telling you there is an issue in your room with doxxing.

I don’t appreciate this, as mods are meant to be making this place safe and so are admins.

Sort the room out.
 
HR do you not understand the difference between humor and being serious? That was a tongue in cheek post intended to be humorous. But nice deflection there. Proving my point that anytime your methods are scrutinised you deflect and dismiss it by desperately trying to find anything you can to invalidate the person scrutinizing you.
 
So why is the reason listed for my kick "links" and not "spam"?
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"your complaints are based on wanting disliked ******** banned for your selfish reasons. "

My complaints are based on wanting ******** like black raidah banned for SOLICITNG SEX FROM MINORS.

If that's selfish, you need to take a looooooooooong look at yourself in the mirror, and possibly ****** the definition of selfish.

Doxxing, too, has real world effects. ****** "swatting deaths" if you don't believe this. I've never advocated bans for differing opinions or basic arguments, just the things that cross real world lines into abuse. Based on your own goddamn rules:

"Any evidence of a person attempting to exploit a minor will be turned over to law enforcement and your ISP reported. There is zero tolerance for this behavior and you will receive a ban."

Yet it appears as though saying "I apologise it was a prank" (when the SSs show otherwise) is an absolutely valid tolerance?

No one said they were ok with skimpy outfits, mate, similar to how you told cassie "I don't agree with that picture morally but there's nothing under the rules we can do" the same logic applies to us.
 
H.R. PufnStuf said:
Report nudity to the mods who will kick offenders .-and are . aware to up kick times for repeat offenders.

Nudity is not porn, and likely not bannable. use the ignore feature. report nudity to mods by flag, staff cannot be there 24-7 and I no longer do day to day modding---- if you want ******** banned for ..simple nudity you will need to have the boss tell me that because as far as I know thats not likely going to happen. Try calming down and if you repost ..and do not post personal information in these forums if you are so traumatized by addresses then dont repost them.

Every chatter posting phone numbers etc has been kicked by mods so that makes it clear the complaint is more one group wants a chatter banned than anyone caring about the room or its rules.

Wildwestwanderer aka ocean minded- is so concerned with nudity...then why has he posted his pelvis in your room for. months- and interesting his very good pal drew-piladieis-another ex mod who simply could not follow directions and was kick happy .... they make interesting bed fellows. Drama is all they want and their crocodile tears dont fool me or anyone who knows our room.

The mods of Gen chat are doing exactly what they should do which is why they are not ex mods like the two i mentioned. Also i find this so called crisis probably specious as not one chatter has sent me a flag-which tells me the mods are doing their jobs well.

Cozmokittee? just feeding drama. Another ex that would kick so many so fast she would be fired yet again- no you cant be a mod!

edit: was just in room- piladeis and pal ocean minded have no flagged one of the skimpy outfits being gifed. Smokey spoken to- and he denies posting anything like the ex mods say he did, and I note- no proof shown to me by anyone.

I do not ban on the word of known trolls, or ex mods or by any chatter without proof. And before I take any action like banning, I will investigate and warn where appropriate. This site does not want mods who robotically kick or admins who hand out bans without a second thought.

@Kim @purplerose OP answered this can be closed and if any gen ******** post on your forums nudity-porn or addresses etc feel free gto take any action you need to :) thank you
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Interesting. "Nudity is not porn" So, the D pic a pedophile sent me "is not porn"? Oh, it's just a bloody nude pic, no big deal. Jesus Christ.
Stop contradicting yourself and do your job, the mods too. It makes me mad how you think your poor excuses will get you anywhere.
 
cozmokittee said:
Well then, isn't this interesting. Did you...perhaps...just maaaybe forget this? I think you did. Let me remind you.
Edit : Mini refering to "Minimodding" in the sence that the admin can grant me modship directly in the room without CMs knowledge or permission, effectively skipping the mod limit.
https://imgur.com/J90Tqe2

Let me also remind you that we're asking for bans on people who have been doxxing each other and their targets FAMILIES, not just the issues we've had with nudes being spread. Nudity isn't allowed in there because there's kids in there, HR. Plain and simple. We're not asking for the world, we're just asking you do SOMETHING about the absolute hell that is going on.


Oh and one more thing, HR, I've quit all three times I've stopped modding.=3 Glad to see you're following the trolls tall tales of all mods are fired, looks real good on you.
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I think you misunderstood the whole point. You can never mod in gen chat after fighting with another mod, and especailly after you told me you called a peer the c bomb- and you will note- I have never modded you-mini or otherwise. Its a known running joke you mini mod all the time. And no we dont grant it in the main room- unless there was perhaps a exploit or spamming we couldnt stop. see? here you are again- mini modding because you hhave nev er held a position in modern.

Nudity is not bannable we kick for it and will 100000 times if we must

Pieck said:
Interesting. "Nudity is not porn" So, the D pic a pedophile sent me "is not porn"? Oh, it's just a bloody nude pic, no big deal. Jesus Christ.
Stop contradicting yourself and do your job, the mods too. It makes me mad how you think your poor excuses will get you anywhere.
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redacted ss are not proof.
 
Okay, if nudity isn't bannable, how about all the posts of popo's mother's name all over chat?
Or about other chatter's full names posted all over chat? And screenshots of their social media profiles all over chat?
β–Ί Do not post personal information belonging to anyone else- this includes (but not limited to) full names, address, emails, social media and photos. *Doxxing*- is the intentional sharing of personal information intended to harm another person. It is not allowed in this room. Excessive doxxing, or doxxing that involves children can result in a Ban.
 
Right... The fight that Dess started WITH ME, but you seemed to under the impression that I started. Would you like me to repeat again what happened?
You know, the same mod who seems to already be on that month long break ( Can't confirm, I don't come in early these days ) that you wanted to minimodship me for? You know, to cover the hours missing...... I was really confused as to why you asked me and why you even worked out the details with me, but it's a bit more clear now.
We've all gotten into arguments at some point with mods about something or rather. You're acting like it's a death sentence.

And Aaaaccctually I did mod modern, just not gen modern. I was one of the first mods in DC for that transition so would you like to try AGAIN, or have you finish fishing out of the troll story pool yet?
 
ElSerto said:
HR - I’ve done this in pm.
You know that this is going on. Your rules even mention excessive doxxing is a ban. Your mods kick everyday the same people for doxxing.
If you check the kick history - you will see it too. The mods will tell you.

I’m being told in PM to maybe find another room because I’m telling you there is an issue in your room with doxxing.

I don’t appreciate this, as mods are meant to be making this place safe and so are admins.

Sort the room out.
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I told you if you want a room where the admin bans ******** on your say so- yes find another room that is more to your liking. Excessive doxxing *with intent to cause harm* that involves a minor \ CAN resukt in a ban. read the rules written before you quote me thanks. And am I correct you are no longer a mod? If its serious perhaps something can be done. im NOT banning for the equivelant of chatter a drawing a moustache on ******** B pic. We want a fun room-not one that is hartsh and treats all ******** with contempt based on the bartest of threads of proof. Not going to happen.

Piladies, another one who fails to grasp rea]ity- wants me to ban on SS -an incomplete record- for really a off colour remark that a chatter apologized for. Which is an indication why he cant mod here-
 
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