Re *im sick of it*

[L'Angelo d'Mysterioso]

I'm surprised this is on General Forums quite frankly, but hey, the admin started it and he posted it here, so here it shall be.

I should like to point out that the issue isn't about firing admins and mods or whatever personal gripe white shield has against the world. It's about protecting minors from people who are trying to groom them, as well as ensuring that women and men can use chat without it being a hell hole of doxxing and nudes.

I mean, this site (and others) has always had a struggle trying to stop older users abusing minors, it's not like this is a new issue, the problem is that at the moment, the rules seems to be slanted to protect those who are preying on those who know no better (regardless of whatever sexual knowledge a 13 year old may have, I don't think they're quite ready for an onslaught of 55 year-old erect penis, you know?).

The cover-our ass mentality of chat is that the screenshots could be faked so we can't do anything about it, because it could be someone trying to destroy a chatter, or hey, if you don't like a 55 year old talking about how he'd like to have anal sex with you, just ignore him. So, the rules the mods have to follow say that you have to send them an unedited version of whatever unsightly thing someoine said or showed to you in the room, yet even if you do that, they say it could be fake.

I mean, yes, if a mod decides to follow the rules and kick and protect people from those who want to harm them, they'll be fired within a week, and people who mod do so because they want to help the rooms and the ******** who are there to have a normal conversation (at least, they did). So I understand why this whole issue is frustrating for them, because if you get fired you can't do anything, and if you do try to help without mod status you get accused of being a mini-modding troll who is bitter they've been fired (which is a very adult and serious thing for an admin to type about an issue).

This whole issue shows a far wider problem of enabling the dangerous behaviour of some ******** with no care of the effect it may have on those they choose to abuse.

 

[WhiteShield-]

I should like to point out that the issue isn't about firing admins and mods or whatever personal gripe white shield has against the world.

Before you point out the issue make sure it is correct.

Many people like you come and go. In the past The Shield didn't say anything to you doesn't mean you can say whatever you want and you can get away with it.


General Chat has many problems. It's not just about doxxing. You need to know behind the scene before you make any comments about WhiteShield.

 

[ElSerto]

Just making you all aware, I’ve flagged this in Gen Chat too, Englishgirl and Smokey are about to doxx and give Popo **** again. If you want to come witness this whole thread in live action.

Can’t report anymore cause my limits are up.

And there we have englishgirl posting the nudes again.

Edit: I’m not gonna post the zoomed in version but if the mods/admin or cm wants them, let me know and I can pass it on

 

[Deleted member 292068]

And there we have englishgirl posting the nudes again.

Edit: I’m not gonna post the zoomed in version but if the mods/admin or cm wants them, let me know and I can pass it on

Ugh, what's sad is, she constantly says shes deleting but stays to continue her bs. Any mods on? I'm making dinner but I'll log on if need be.

 

[ElSerto]

Ugh, what's sad is, she constantly says shes deleting but stays to continue her bs. Any mods on? I'm making dinner but I'll log on if need be.

Donut came in mate, do you want me to send the pic that she keeps posting of that nude guy?
They’ve all been kicked now but no doubt it’ll happen again lol

 

[Deleted member 263960]

Okay, if nudity isn't bannable, how about all the posts of popo's mother's name all over chat?
Or about other chatter's full names posted all over chat? And screenshots of their social media profiles all over chat?
► Do not post personal information belonging to anyone else- this includes (but not limited to) full names, address, emails, social media and photos. *Doxxing*- is the intentional sharing of personal information intended to harm another person. It is not allowed in this room. Excessive doxxing, or doxxing that involves children can result in a Ban.

good point. The rule about doxxing was to prevent the exploitation of minors by doxxers posting kids babies as victims of sex crimes etc etc and other vile references. Hoodie was banned on that. But doxxing itself- is not something I can ban at will I simply cant do it. I was hoping to move in that direction as I found management to be receptive to imput. I get full support to deal with pedos for example. I hoped that the rules to protect kids from doxxers would be a start. I hope to be persuasive from a respectful view- which encorporates the reality that all volunteers serve at the ;pleasure of management. Management does not work for me, I work for them. My guess is now my efforts will be made more complicated, and ******** will just have to see that- or come from their perspectives and not. It doesnt matter much. .

.My perspective is that the very reason we have mods is to kick nudity. If you want nudity banned ie me banning-no warning to suit your goals- you will need to get CM team to order it. Until then, I am clear- we will kick . . .and kick and kick some more. As to the bs ACCUSATIONBS ABOUT THIS SITE- .my perspective is management is not rash, and they are fair and deliberate-they dont want a mass of bans based on hysteria ... . the actually seem to care that mods are fair- .and see their role through the lens of those who ......actually own this place- because none of us- or me do. And as admin I will carry out the policies management deems appropriate because I am a man of my word and loyal to a fault.

To sum up- all pedos are kos- but that must be based on solid evidence. If you want mothers names etc to be banned by me-you wi.ll need the CM team to direct me toi do it.

 

[ElSerto]

good point. The rule about doxxing was to prevent the exploitation of minors by doxxers posting kids babies as victims of sex crimes etc etc and other vile references. Hoodie was banned on that. But doxxing itself- is not something I can ban at will I simply cant do it. I was hoping to move in that direction as I found management to be receptive to imput. I get full support to deal with pedos for example. I hoped that the rules to protect kids from doxxers would be a start. I hope to be persuasive from a respectful view- which encorporates the reality that all volunteers serve at the ;pleasure of management. Management does not work for me, I work for them. My guess is now my efforts will be made more complicated, and ******** will just have to see that- or come from their perspectives and not. It doesnt matter much. .

.My perspective is that the very reason we have mods is to kick nudity. If you want nudity banned ie me banning-no warning to suit your goals- you will need to get CM team to order it. Until then, I am clear- we will kick . . .and kick and kick some more. As to the bs ACCUSATIONBS ABOUT THIS SITE- .my perspective is management is not rash, and they are fair and deliberate-they dont want a mass of bans based on hysteria ... . the actually seem to care that mods are fair- .and see their role through the lens of those who ......actually own this place- because none of us- or me do. And as admin I will carry out the policies management deems appropriate because I am a man of my word and loyal to a fault.

To sum up- all pedos are kos- but that must be based on solid evidence. If you want mothers names etc to be banned by me-you wi.ll need the CM team to direct me toi do it.

If we’re protecting kids, that would be to stop nudity on general main chat. IE, someone’s naked photos. It’s fantastic that we are allowing for this to continue, HR.

 

[cozmokittee]

To quote our loveable Mimsy bun bun....

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I like to think that I'm a fairly neutral chatter- I'll talk to pretty much everyone- and if I have a problem with somebody, I usually just ignore them (Yes I do know how and where the ignore button is). I've only spoken out against a few ******** with valid reasoning. That brings me to these lovely gems that may be helpful. These are also taken directly from the Department of Justice web-site.

“Cyberthreats” can simply mean threatening communications that are conveyed via the Internet, cellphone, or other digital means. The communication in interstate commerce of threats to harm a person or property, to kidnap a person, or to damage a person’s reputation, is a violation of federal law pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 875.

" Cyber Stalking" talking is a pattern of repeated and unwanted attention, harassment, contact, or any other course of conduct directed at a specific person that would cause a reasonable person to feel fear. Examples include-- Repeated, unwanted, intrusive, and frightening communications from the perpetrator by phone, mail, and/or email, Making direct or indirect threats to harm the victim, the victim's children, relatives, friends, or pets, Harassing the victim through the Internet • Posting information or spreading rumors about the victim on the Internet, in a public place, or by word of mouth, Obtaining personal information about the victim by accessing public records, using Internet search services, hiring private investigators, searching through the victim's garbage, following the victim, and contacting the victim's friends, family, co-workers, or neighbors, etc.
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With this being the reference point, in accordance to this, is it genuinely so unreasonable to ban people who are repeatedly doxxing? We understand you can't just ban them on a whim, we have NOT been asking for an immediate ban and you're doing that "you're asking for too much" bs again. We're asking that the repeat offenders of both doxxers and pedos/porn posters be banned ( pedos are finally on that list but the repeat porn posters like Popo/Carnage are kinda still a pretty big problem ). We shouldn't just aim to keep the kids safe, we need to give some attention that peoples families are getting exposed to our bullshit site and users.... If it was just someone with a mom name that'd be one thing, but this is clearly not the case. I stand by that I don't think you should be letting this level of doxxing slide.

I've been using chat rooms since I was 10 years old, in all my years, I've not seen this level of crap being done...... That should honestly speak fucking VOLUMES. But, I'm just an unreliable source, obviously here for the fucking drama.🙄

 

[Deleted member 263960]

napping princess, it's hard to watch chat and do flags? you mean you actually do something??

she said she didnt want to be an army of one. ..............

If we’re protecting kids, that would be to stop nudity on general main chat. IE, someone’s naked photos. It’s fantastic that we are allowing for this to continue, HR.

. we kick for nudity. I cant ban for nudity. and definately not without a warn. You need

If we’re protecting kids, that would be to stop nudity on general main chat. IE, someone’s naked photos. It’s fantastic that we are allowing for this to continue, HR.

we are not allowing anything- working on it but things take time

 

[ElSerto]

she said she didnt want to be an army of one. ..............


. we kick for nudity. I cant ban for nudity. and definately not without a warn. You need

we are not allowing anything- working on it but things take time

HR, nudity is being exploited to underage kids. That’s a serious offence. I don’t know how else I can put this.

Doxxing is against the law, and cyber harassment mate. Again, I just.. there’s no point even continuing because you’re not listening.

 

[Deleted member 263960]

. .. Smokey if he re.peats any more doxxing. is facing a perm site ban and has been while you were all running in circles. if you see him post anymore-pm it to me and management will site ban him others are still pending

 

[ElSerto]

. .. Smokey if he re.peats any more doxxing. is facing a perm site ban and has been while you were all running in circles. if you see him post anymore-pm it to me and management will site ban him others are still pending

And about the others? Like Hannah and Carnage?

 

[L'Angelo d'Mysterioso]

Before you point out the issue make sure it is correct.

Many people like you come and go. In the past The Shield didn't say anything to you doesn't mean you can say whatever you want and you can get away with it.


General Chat has many problems. It's not just about doxxing. You need to know behind the scene before you make any comments about WhiteShield.

Okey dokey, mate, guess I'll have to go and come again, huh. I mean, it's not like I've been on this site for almost ten years now, have been a mod and have been friends with at least 3 past admins of gen chat or anything, but hey, keep referring to yourself in the third person, because that makes you look really cool, bro.

 

[Deleted member 263960]

And about the others? Like Hannah and Carnage?

those are pending and have been . you can make the assumption that any flag or complete unredacted SS . need to come direct to ..... not to mods. not yo your pals direct to me. hanna may be on a final . .which ive been trying to work on .during the love-in. But im well aware no matter whatr the mods do- it will never satisfy some people. You simply need to trust that certain things take time. But u likly wont.

 

[ElSerto]

those are pending and have been . you can make the assumption that any flag or complete unredacted SS . need to come direct to ..... not to mods. not yo your pals direct to me. hanna may be on a final . .which ive been trying to work on .during the love-in. But im well aware no matter whatr the mods do- it will never satisfy some people. You simply need to trust that certain things take time. But u likly wont.

I’ve sent them to mods but I can send you the ones I’ve got if you want.

 

[cozmokittee]

Yes, we were INDEED the ones running around in circles with big flashy signs trying to get y'all to pay this some fucking mind.

carnage is equal parts guilty of posting ACTUAL PORNOGRAPHIC GIFS that we've all had the absolute displeasure of seeing and reporting time and time again but hey, that's fiiiine right? Right. He's been doing that since before you became admin but mkay, lets just...put that on pending.


Please, lemme just be humbly grateful for the fact that you dare even consider the heavy burden of banning someone who doxxes people and shows porn to kids........ It would be SUCH A TERRIBLE LOSS TO OUR ROOM.

 

[ban active]

To summarize; everyone thinks you should resign Hr. You suck.

Again your input is irrelevant ~ pathetic at best havent you got nudes to send or use half naked pics in chat

Either HR can resign or CM will have to remove HR's admin status.

Chances of either of those outcomes? Id say less than 50%.

So removing an Admin for the next one to take up the bullshit that already occurs and has occured for the last upteen years is the solution?

HR is trying his best to order the room in the confines of CM and site Admin ~ like any business (this is CM's actual business) you have to go through the chain of command and find a solution. This is not as simple ban them ban them!! Hence why I was asking CM and Admin to enter the room and watch the complete idiots doxxing, posting porn, naked pictures of ******** they post themselves an so forth to see what the acutal issue are.

I am sure this is not going to happen and im wasting my time with asking them to come and witness the issues.

 

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After reading all 125 posts of this thread, I decided to take another look at the site's terms of service. Not sure who wrote them, but in a nutshell it pretty much says "we're not responsible for anything, we can't be held liable, and we'll do as we please with people that don't adhere"........................................

 

[L'Angelo d'Mysterioso]

After reading all 125 posts of this thread, I decided to take another look at the site's terms of service. Not sure who wrote them, but in a nutshell it pretty much says "we're not responsible for anything, we can't be held liable, and we'll do as we please with people that don't adhere"........................................

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