Should trans people be accepted into the workplace?

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Try reading what people post and stop jumping to conclusions. I never said people shouldn't be allowed to have a sex change. Not did I say people shouldn't be gay, bi or trans. Stop being stupid
YOUR the stupid one I’m WATCHING you argue with peoples opinions like yours is the most important it’s NOT WHO made you LAW on trans ??? Like you know these people ???
 
Cause it’s only red when air hits it
Er actually it's red and that's due to the haemoglobin carried in the red blood cells, it's slightly brighter red once it's been oxygenated by gas transfer in the alveoli in the lungs. Veins appear blue because they're under the skin which absorbs red wavelengths of light whereas blue is transmitted.

There are truly blue blooded creature, the horseshoe crab is one of them, but humans aren't 🙂
 
If gender is a social construct how can anyone be born in the wrong body? 🤔 You have subscribed to pseudoscience . Oh I'm fully aware that transexuality is a thing. It's shoved in our face constantly lol as for 'reasoned arguments ' do you think it's ok that men are winning awards that are for women, men winning in women's sports, convicted wife beaters rights 'trans woman Alexis Black' taking precedence over a woman's rights because he's trans, SHE got kicked out of golds gym banned from the gym because she objects to a trans women staring at her while she's naked.

I abhor pseudoscience. I'm currently studying for a masters degree in a scientific subject and I know how to check the bone fides of any theory.

Everybody develops as female at the start of embryonic development. The chromosomes provided by the haploids determine the eventual physical sex of the foetus as it develops but in some cases, the physical development isn't quite right and the brain develops as the other gender sometimes completely, sometimes less so and that means that you can be born into a female body but have a male conception of your physicality and vice versa. It's a spectrum of difference.

I've just realised from your obsession with sporting imbalance that you're not bread lol you're joseph the main bigot or whatever you were.

Woman getting their legs broken, ending their sporting career in soccer because of 'trans inclusive policy' etc . Is any of that ok?

No I'm not bread

I'm on record here as saying multiple times that the sport governing bodies need to drag their arses out of the past and change their rules to maintain a level playing field. It can be done. No sports person deliberately sets out to wreck another's career by the way, but accidents do happen and a lot of sport is inherently dangerous in that way. Participants know and accept the risk of injury. I myself am a pretty decent traditional rock climber. I use the protection availably in my chosen sport to mitigate the risks but I'm fully aware and accept that sometimes that mitigation will not work effectively and that I may be seriously injured or worse.

Your views are touted here to cause discord and argument, and to further your own dogmatically based agenda. Want to know the main difference between me and you? I'm open minded as a scientist should be. Present me with a compelling argument backed by credible sources (not you tube, x, or any of the other social quagmires) and I'll always be willing to change my view based on those arguments. You? You have a clear hatred of transexual people and probably other groups which is based on political dogma, religious dogma, or both. Thy name is bigot and as usual with you, there is no actual debate just you hectoring anyone that pays any attention.
 
@Soapie were you aware that any of this happened? Just asking
Wasnt aware of those particular events, but have heard similar by other people here. Just since they weren't particularly related to the topic of "workplace" didn't see the need to discuss them.
 
And, in @-Luka defence, yes blood is blue once its inside you, the act bleeding is once its exiting you, which makes it not blue.


Unless its internal bleeding in which case.... I dont know 😶
 
And, in @-Luka defence, yes blood is blue once its inside you, the act bleeding is once its exiting you, which makes it not blue.


Unless its internal bleeding in which case.... I dont know 😶
Nuh uh. Haemoglobin is red. Red blood cells gives it away somewhat. It's a commonly held misconception owing to the appearance of veins near the surface of the skin but that's caused by red absorption by the skin. 🙂
 
Just to point out and no I’m not a nerd But in fact we actually don’t know what colours run through our body’s because it’s protected by flesh and bones and marrow unless you study the human body I’m afraid I’m just not that geeky
 
I abhor pseudoscience. I'm currently studying for a masters degree in a scientific subject and I know how to check the bone fides of any theory.

Everybody develops as female at the start of embryonic development. The chromosomes provided by the haploids determine the eventual physical sex of the foetus as it develops but in some cases, the physical development isn't quite right and the brain develops as the other gender sometimes completely, sometimes less so and that means that you can be born into a female body but have a male conception of your physicality and vice versa. It's a spectrum of difference.

I've just realised from your obsession with sporting imbalance that you're not bread lol you're joseph the main bigot or whatever you were.



I'm on record here as saying multiple times that the sport governing bodies need to drag their arses out of the past and change their rules to maintain a level playing field. It can be done. No sports person deliberately sets out to wreck another's career by the way, but accidents do happen and a lot of sport is inherently dangerous in that way. Participants know and accept the risk of injury. I myself am a pretty decent traditional rock climber. I use the protection availably in my chosen sport to mitigate the risks but I'm fully aware and accept that sometimes that mitigation will not work effectively and that I may be seriously injured or worse.

Your views are touted here to cause discord and argument, and to further your own dogmatically based agenda. Want to know the main difference between me and you? I'm open minded as a scientist should be. Present me with a compelling argument backed by credible sources (not you tube, x, or any of the other social quagmires) and I'll always be willing to change my view based on those arguments. You? You have a clear hatred of transexual people and probably other groups which is based on political dogma, religious dogma, or both. Thy name is bigot and as usual with you, there is no actual debate just you hectoring anyone that pays any attention.
They are stuck in the past because of gender ideology, the notion that stereotypes define one's gender. If you're male and you don't comform to male gender stereotypes = You're female, drugs, surgery is the panacea to that . Same for females not conforming to female stereotypes it's not progressive it's regressive.

'participants know and accept the risks' oh really, since when were women asked if they agree to having trans women, men in their sports? They weren't, it was forced onto them under the guise of 'inclusion' Trans rights are the antithesis to women's rights. In order to have women's rights you need the proper definition of woman and that's predicated on biology.

Men and women are not arbitrary categories that we can refine with the distortion of language. In your dogmatic world view language is taken to shape reality, not describe it. Gender identities are entirely subjective you can be male on monday, female on tuesday, gender fluid on wednesday, non binary on thursday etc lol

Instead of trying to change reality to align with their thoughts they should try to change their thoughts to align, fit reality.

I'm not Joseph, it's not the first time you accuse people of being someone who they aren't and it won't be the last. Big difference between obsession and concern. 'compelling argument ' for what exactly? That a man cannot become a woman and vice versa, use your eyes and ears, have a modicum of common sense also you're free to goo gle about Tish Hyman, the trans activists winning 'women of the year' etc.

You attribute an emotion to me because you disagree. Stating facts and disagreement is not hatred. You've tried that bs over and over and over again, it doesn't work anymore.
 
@emileh I bet you never knew about this either. In Massachusetts hospitals gave forms to mothers for them to declare on hospital forms whether their newborn baby is transgender, non binary, gender fluid etc yeah you can goog le that too. It gives woke mothers the option of declaring their baby as trans from BIRTH and they have the audacity to say it's not being forced onto children.

An extreme ideology 'gender ideology ' is being forced onto people under the guise of 'tolerance' and 'inclusion' yeah they took full advantage of you being 'tolerant' and 'accepting' and now your female only spaces are gone, the word woman has a prefix.

I know you must virtue signal though because if you don't and you say something that goes against the narrative you will be shunned, ostracized from the 'tolerant' and 'inclusive' group. Not very inclusive is it. Diversity also means diversity of different views.
 
@emileh if you ever manage to make your way out of the woke matrix you reside in, the first song you should play is 'back to life back to reality ' by De La Soul lol
 
They are stuck in the past because of gender ideology, the notion that stereotypes define one's gender. If you're male and you don't comform to male gender stereotypes = You're female, drugs, surgery is the panacea to that . Same for females not conforming to female stereotypes it's not progressive it's regressive.

And yet you fail to understand the biological science behind this. It's a fact of life, not regressive. Just something that's always existed, the only reason you're ranting about it is because it's more widely discussed because of the various Internet platforms, and it's becoming far more widely accepted because of that.

The religious/political dogmatists hate that because they can't control it.

'participants know and accept the risks' oh really, since when were women asked if they agree to having trans women, men in their sports? They weren't, it was forced onto them under the guise of 'inclusion' Trans rights are the antithesis to women's rights. In order to have women's rights you need the proper definition of woman and that's predicated on biology.

Yes. Anyone that takes part in a sport knows the risks and accepts them. Nothing controversial about that. People in sports don't intentionally set out to injure each other either. Contact fighting sports excepted of course.

Trans rights don't affect women's rights. They're a separate thing entirely and speaking as a woman, I'm not threatened by any of this.

But then again, I'm not on a political extreme and I'm an atheist.

Men and women are not arbitrary categories that we can refine with the distortion of language. In your dogmatic world view language is taken to shape reality, not describe it. Gender identities are entirely subjective you can be male on monday, female on tuesday, gender fluid on wednesday, non binary on thursday etc lol

Instead of trying to change reality to align with their thoughts they should try to change their thoughts to align, fit reality.

Let's look at this again. Male and female as a sex is defined by chromosomes. It's a biological definition. Gender is far more fluid than that and is a social construct. Men and women have been born into the wrong bodies throughout history.

It's always been the political and religious extremes that are bothered by something they can't control.

I'm not Joseph, it's not the first time you accuse people of being someone who they aren't and it won't be the last. Big difference between obsession and concern. 'compelling argument ' for what exactly? That a man cannot become a woman and vice versa, use your eyes and ears, have a modicum of common sense also you're free to goo gle about Tish Hyman, the trans activists winning 'women of the year' etc.

You attribute an emotion to me because you disagree. Stating facts and disagreement is not hatred. You've tried that bs over and over and over again, it doesn't work anymore.

You're a dogmatist. Your posts shout that out in an unmistakeable manner. You're not looking for a reasoned debate, you're looking for an argument and you want to batter your audience with your dogmatic views rather than engage properly.

As for the Joseph thing, if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck...
 
@emileh if you ever manage to make your way out of the woke matrix you reside in, the first song you should play is 'back to life back to reality ' by De La Soul lol
@DeletedMember7 if you ever manage to extricate yourself from your conspiracy ridden politico-religious cults, you might want to try learning to debate, use reputable sources, and maybe, just maybe, learn some critical thinking skills. Or failing that, just learn.

I won't hold my breath though.
 
And yet you fail to understand the biological science behind this. It's a fact of life, not regressive. Just something that's always existed, the only reason you're ranting about it is because it's more widely discussed because of the various Internet platforms, and it's becoming far more widely accepted because of that.

The religious/political dogmatists hate that because they can't control it.



Yes. Anyone that takes part in a sport knows the risks and accepts them. Nothing controversial about that. People in sports don't intentionally set out to injure each other either. Contact fighting sports excepted of course.

Trans rights don't affect women's rights. They're a separate thing entirely and speaking as a woman, I'm not threatened by any of this.

But then again, I'm not on a political extreme and I'm an atheist.



Let's look at this again. Male and female as a sex is defined by chromosomes. It's a biological definition. Gender is far more fluid than that and is a social construct. Men and women have been born into the wrong bodies throughout history.

It's always been the political and religious extremes that are bothered by something they can't control.



You're a dogmatist. Your posts shout that out in an unmistakeable manner. You're not looking for a reasoned debate, you're looking for an argument and you want to batter your audience with your dogmatic views rather than engage properly.

As for the Joseph thing, if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck
Do you know why the narrative that 'trans women are women ' and ' some people are born in the wrong body ' is becoming more widely accepted? It's because of... Internet platforms. To reiterate I don't have religious views.

Vast majority of women do not accept men who identify as women in their sports it's forced onto them under the guise of 'inclusion' 'trans rights don't affect women's rights ' tell that to Tish Hyman the lesbian who was kicked out of golds gym and banned because she objects to a trans woman 'man' staring at her while she was naked.

Tell that to all the women in sports who couldn't win because trans women 'competed' in their sports. Tell that to the MILLIONS of women who were overlooked for the women of the year award with glamour magazine. ONLY trans activists won the woman of the year award 9 of them.

Tell that to the woman in soccer who had her leg broken, her sports career ended because of their 'trans inclusive policy' of allowing trans women into their sports. Trans rights absolutely infringe on women's rights you're stupid to believe otherwise.
 
It’s kinda making me ashamed of being straight here but he sounds like one of them people with alien behaviour if you ain’t straight you ain’t right it’s very judgmental
 
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