brightie
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Excellent post about the consequences.
I may just add ( I know it is not on topic but ... )
This is for everyone.
If you are not cleared by the government to do so, please do not impersonate minors online.
Suicide Talk for Attention
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I may just add ( I know it is not on topic but ... )
This is for everyone.
If you are not cleared by the government to do so, please do not impersonate minors online.
Rachel_NY
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September is Suicide awareness month. It is not a topic that I want to chat about, Unfortantly I had 2 people talking about it in my room. I see most people that voted are againt it, and it true its not a topic that its not a topic that I want to chat about, but i am obligated to try to help,
babydolla
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no, ur not obligated to try & help, ur only obligated to enforce the rules & one of the rules universally being no suicide talk...
the fact u feel obligated to help ppl with mental health issues, especially those as severe as this is unbelievably inappropriate, & arrogant...
ur a fuckin' chat-room moderator lmao!!!!
is it so u feel better about urself???
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Rachel_NY
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they are friends of mine
DarthErica
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Yea I mean chat room moderators aren’t mental health experts. And even if someone has a degree in that field and is moderating here or elsewhere a chat room isn’t the place to serve as counselor for someone who is thinking of self harm. Direct them to a help line. I’ve been suicidal before and I can tell you the last place I thought about was Chat Avenue. So there’s no way I’ll ever believe that anyone who truly is suicidal will come to a chat room to go on about it. And when it’s beyond obvious that someone is doing it for attention that crap should not be tolerated. Full stop.
babydolla
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u want to help ur suicidal friends??? tell them to get off chat-avenue, & seek out a professional...
& if these are ur irl friends, then u get off chat-avenue, & call the emergency services...
wat are u doing???
ppl who are genuinely suicidal aren't going on the internet doing sh*t like this;
@Samwisebc this isn't just being done for attention at all;
i can post more, bc it literally never stops no matter how often the mods mute or kick them & tell them to stop, & always only when the entire room stops paying them any attention... they'll even specifically wait until the mods leave to continue unchecked...
how is this not inappropriate, & grossly disrespectful??? IDK frankly how some of u think this is tolerable behavior, it's toxic & psychotic & glorifies suicide... it not only glorifies it, but glorifies it among a community that has potentially vulnerable minors...
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Deleted member 302564
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In the past I’d kick them but i leave a message with the suicide hotline number as well as a message just letting them know if they wanted to speak privately they were free to do so. Suicide is a tough topic and the last thing anyone needs is for suicide to be glorified in any way. Best thing is be a good person here so that others know you are safe place should they need someone.
Heathen2002
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Talking of or wanting to commit can be a trigger for people that have real issues, so attention seeking talk is dangerous and should not be tolerated in the chat or forum environment.
Talking of or wanting to commit suicide is a bigger issue than anyone on these forums or in the chat rooms are capable of handling, managing or advising and it would be dangerous by any individual outside of the medical or mental health professions.
A couple of posts I have seen here in the last few days, Michael being one, is a cry for help from a mentally and/or a emotionally disturbed/crippled person and they should be pointed in the right direction for the appropriate help if they chose to do so, BUT people are going to be their own worst enemies and not get the help they need and that will either end in loss or become a vicious cycle of attention seeking.
If people are going to commit suicide, there is very little you can do to stop them other than point them in the direction for help and hope that it helps.
Should it be ignored, MOSTLY NO....BUT you can only lead the horse to water, you can't make them drink.
Talking of or wanting to commit suicide is a bigger issue than anyone on these forums or in the chat rooms are capable of handling, managing or advising and it would be dangerous by any individual outside of the medical or mental health professions.
A couple of posts I have seen here in the last few days, Michael being one, is a cry for help from a mentally and/or a emotionally disturbed/crippled person and they should be pointed in the right direction for the appropriate help if they chose to do so, BUT people are going to be their own worst enemies and not get the help they need and that will either end in loss or become a vicious cycle of attention seeking.
If people are going to commit suicide, there is very little you can do to stop them other than point them in the direction for help and hope that it helps.
Should it be ignored, MOSTLY NO....BUT you can only lead the horse to water, you can't make them drink.
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Deleted member 293502
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You could very well be correct that they're faking it, and I find the behavior reason for a KICK, as per my usual protocol when anyone says they're suicidal - I treat it as serious and provide the resources.bc this isn't just being done for attention at all;
i can post more, bc it literally never stops no matter how often the mods mute or kick them & tell them to stop, & always only when the entire room stops paying them any attention... they'll even specifically wait until the mods leave to continue unchecked...
how is this not inappropriate, & grossly disrespectful??? IDK frankly how some of u think this is tolerable behavior, it's toxic & psychotic & glorifies suicide... it not only glorifies it, but glorifies it among a community that has potentially vulnerable minors...
Saying it glorifies suicide is a little silly though. People who fake suicidal ideations drive me crazy, too - but they aren't glorifying it, they're just manipulative degenerates.
But touching back on my original point in all of this: you, nor I, are qualified to classify suicidal ideation. Which means, by default, we can't determine if someone is faking or not.
Even those screenshots aren't enough to convince me that they are faking it. I can think of many instances where I've said "kill me" and everyone kinda chuckled like it was a joke and I winded up having an attempt later. Which I guess is why this all struck a nerve - because it feels borderline personal.
You're attacking someone who displays their ideation, which according to you doesn't ever happen and is only for attention, when I myself have displayed my own ideation and it been 100% serious.
This is what I'm trying to relay to you. We simply don't know and can't be expected to know. We have and - if I have any say - will continue to treat EVERY person that claims to want to hurt themselves (or want to die) as serious, we will remove them from our rooms on the grounds of discussion of suicide, and I have no say in bans but quite frankly I'd be peeved if someone got banned over any of what I've seen so far.
No amount of screenshots or mud-slinging is going to change this simple fact. We aren't qualified to know - you likely are not qualified to know. We assume it's serious because failure to do so can and has ended lives.
UMs, I have no idea if this thread is resolved or not, I know I can't request to close it but this isn't going anywhere productive. Idk, I can't tell ya how to do your job.
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Deleted member 260961
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said like a total psychopath without any empathy for others. Maybe they should have a warning at log-in - psychopaths frequent this chat site pls do not enter if you have feelings and might be going through a hard time.
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Deleted member 260961
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how irresponsible and stupid of you (reeks narcissism). YOU cannot know what someone else is going through. Save your ignorance for yourself when you might find yourself in a similar situation. I hope you come across someone like you right now. Frankly, people like you should be kicked and banned.
babydolla
Gold Member
sanguine,
ur literally a low-functioning sociopath, you has cried about killing urself entirely for attention too just bc u were banned from general...
get the hell out of here, ur exactly the kind of person this thread is about
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Deleted member 260961
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i think your language shows what a degenerate you are. You log into chat everyday and act like a complete sluuut vying for attention constantly. What's the matter? did a chatter with a real problem log in and took attention away from you? And that warrants you running to forums to undermine a real person going through a hard time? As for what your friends/trolls/regs who posted about me wanting to kill myself, please be assured I have felt no such thing.; but question arises why THEY and YOU haven't been banned for cloning accounts and posting garbage about wanting a chatter to kill themselves.
Kim
Gold Member
Oh the irony.
babydolla
Gold Member
weird,
i go on chat maybe 3 days a week, & most of that time is spent being afk doing other sh*t anyway...
i can't count on two hands how many times u has come into chat in just the mere amount of time i actually spend there having a psychotic breakdown, spamming that bc sammy banned u & not us, that he is going to be responsible for ur death bc u cant take the so-called *bullying & abuse* anymore...
their problems are just as real as u being a lawyer / doctor / super model...
& i'm not banned bc i'm not some twisted unhinged sociopathic old hag like u, so u can f*ck off witch bc im not dorothy...
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Deleted member 260961
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listen to yourself !!! you sound like a total loon repeating the rubbish being disseminated by your troll friends. Stop doing drugs. You're incomprehensible. Grow some self respect and stop attacking other people because they don't play along with your self-absorbed crap. YOU cannot know what other people are going through, so stop acting like you own this chat site and decide who can and can't be here. There are people who have gone to war, there are people who have been through REAL trauma, others who are trying to process some major sh..it in their lives. They come here to try and connect, not have you and your troll buddies abusing them. Show some compassion and extend a hand of friendship. This world isn't just about you and your troll buddies.
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