Are people born gay or are they made

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Bread. said:
There is no gay gene.
There are genes that contribute to sexuality but there is no gene that says this person is chosen to be gay.

The study you cited did not even ask the participants about what their sexual preference was, only their sexual behavior.

Since everyone here argues that sexuality can change willy nilly.

Not only but it also concluded that genetic twins often have completely different sexual preferences.
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Just a question. For someone who has so many questions/concerns about homosexuality, why do you have rainbow colors on your pfp? 😏
 
Louize said:
Twice you've been given science to go and look into, twice you've not given any citations and merely said "no u wrong I right" in a round about, caveman-like way.

You're not very good at this are you, @Bread.
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I've cited in my on words the conclusion of the scientific study.

DarthErica said:
Just a question. For someone who has so many questions/concerns about homosexuality, why do you have rainbow colors on your pfp? 😏
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Why do you have a pic of Darth Vader?
 
The real question is does it really matter? What matters to me is how I lead my life...Not how someone else does... I've never felt attraction to the opposite sex, so I could argue I was born this way. I don't recall a moment when I chose to feel this way.

There are times Id rather not be lesbian. Who would choose to be in a minority of people where the pool of potential partners is quite limited? Theres no other gay girls where I live.

Having said that I am not concerned if I was born or developed being lesbian.

yes I know this is a Troll thread and I should not have answered...but I was born to reply to troll threads....
 
SerenityMoon said:
Even when presented with evidence the fool refuses to see. I'm going to bail out on this thread. Someone only wants it open so they can argue.
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I responded (in my own words) to the Biobank/23andme study you cited(evidence). Ironically I used the same journal you used to tell me about 5 gay genes to back up my own responses.

Let me cite my responses. As well as the responses from scientific studies.
Bread. said:
There is no gay gene.
There are genes that contribute to sexuality but there is no gene that says this person is chosen to be gay.
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"But taken together, these five genes explained less than 1 percent of the differences in sexual activity among people in the study. When the researchers looked at the overall genetic similarity of individuals who had had a same-sex experience, genetics seemed to account for between 8 and 25 percent of the behavior"

“We found that the genetic variants associated with having had same-sex partners are also associated with having more opposite-sex partners in people who’ve never had a same-sex partner"

Bread. said:
The study you cited did not even ask the participants about what their sexual preference was, only their sexual behavior.
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"The researchers emphasize that their study dealt primarily with sexual experiences, not sexual orientation or identity"

"The downside of using these huge data sets was that the studies were not specifically designed to find genes for sexual preference, so we were limited by the questions participants happened to have been asked about their sexual behaviour. For both UK Biobank and 23andMe, participants reported whether they had ever had a same-sex sexual partner."

Bread. said:
Not only that but it also concluded that genetic twins often have completely different sexual preferences.
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"Across measures, heterosexual male twins responded more strongly to women than to men. Their homosexual co-twins showed an opposite pattern. Heterosexual female twins responded equally to both sexes, whereas their homosexual co-twins responded somewhat more to women than men. These differences within pairs were similar to differences between unrelated heterosexual and homosexual males and females. Our study provides physiological evidence confirming twins’ discordant sexual orientations, thereby supporting the importance of the non-shared environment for the development of sexual orientation and sexual arousal."

So back to your exerpt,

Your 5 "gay genes" only accounted for as little as 8% to 25% of the gay population.

Much more, those same 5 "gay genes" that were a commonality in homosexuals, were also found amongst heteros.

Genetic Twins, despite having the same genetic code (5 gay genes), somehow develop different sexual orientations.

Religion aside,
the science and evidence cited above strongly suggests that people aren't born gay.

If people were born gay, darwinism(natural selection) would have wiped gays out thousand of years ago since gays can't reproduce.

So if people aren't born gay then how do they become gay? The answer is probably environmental factors outside of their genetics (like Sinning and Satan, grooming, drag story hour, BDSM parades for children, etc)
 
Bread. said:
So if people aren't born gay then how do they become gay? The answer is probably environmental factors outside of their genetics (like Sinning and Satan, grooming, drag story hour, BDSM parades for children, etc)
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BDSM parades for children? The hell you talking about mate? If you really think that being gay is spread around from exposure like a virus, then you'd think you'd be more concerned about the massive number of religious clergy who molest kids... but nope, keep going on about your fake culture war.

Also you never explained why the hell it's your business what consenting people do behind closed doors.
 
best cancek Christmas around the globe.

Those actors/actresses in pantomime drag how dare you. Think of da children.

Stupid.
 
Bread. said:
So if people aren't born gay then how do they become gay? The answer is probably environmental factors outside of their genetics (like Sinning and Satan, grooming, drag story hour, BDSM parades for children, etc)
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Hands up gays, how many of you met satan? (Don’t think I ever have) How many were turned by drag story hour (didn’t even exist when I was a kid), how many went on or were subjected to a BDSM parade? (Never heard of them), how many were groomed to be gay? (Quite the opposite for me - my family weren’t keen on same sex relationships)

Bread. said:
Religion aside,
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Turns to…
Bread. said:
Sinning and Satan
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🙄
 
Inkandtatts said:
Hands up gays, how many of you met satan? (Don’t think I ever have) How many were turned by drag story hour (didn’t even exist when I was a kid), how many went on or were subjected to a BDSM parade? (Never heard of them), how many were groomed to be gay? (Quite the opposite for me - my family weren’t keen on same sex relationships)


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Put your hate aside and take the time to read.
Bread. said:
Religion aside,
the science and evidence cited above
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You start off “religion aside…the science…” and however much you highlight the word “above” in yellow, you still blabber on about religious beings after saying “religion aside”

You can’t even debate straight
 
That means there's no religion in the science cited above not that I'm going to stop talking about religion.
 
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