Do sex workers(prostitues/OF) respect and empowerment or to be morally and societally criticized?

[Bread.]

Do sex workers(prostitues/OF) respect and empowerment or to be morally and societally criticized?

You’re letting sweaty, hideous old men (and possibly women) slap their s***** on you and use you as a *** rag. Unattractive, stinky people who you wouldn’t even look at without a paycheck. there is nothing empowering about it. it’s repulsive. if you’re not harming yourself physically with diseases, you’re harming yourself mentally.

OF too. You are nothing more than an object whose only value is sexual appeal.

Those that argue that autonomy is what its important and thats why sex workers do what they do, are wrong. Many of these people, especially OF (modern day prostitution) do not do this to "get out" of poverty. They willingly do sex work (like CORN) for the promise of money and the lifestyle it provides.

This is not a necessity it is a choice.

If Dolores, a single mother immigrant living in the bronx with 5 kids can work 2 or 3 minimum wage bobs to provide for her family (necessity), why cant these people?

Because they want the easy road (choice)

Dignity is priceless.

 

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He’s using chat gpt 🤣

 

[Juddy]

Do sex workers(prostitues/OF) respect and empowerment or to be morally and societally criticized?

You’re letting sweaty, hideous old men (and possibly women) slap their saggy balls on you and use you as a *** rag. Unattractive, stinky people who you wouldn’t even look at without a paycheck. there is nothing empowering about it. it’s repulsive. if you’re not harming yourself physically with diseases, you’re harming yourself mentally.

OF too. You are nothing more than an object whose only value is sexual appeal.

Those that argue that autonomy is what its important and thats why sex workers do what they do, are wrong. Many of these people, especially OF (modern day prostitution) do not do this to "get out" of poverty. They willingly do sex work (like CORN) for the promise of money and the lifestyle it provides.

This is not a necessity it is a choice.

If Dolores, a single mother immigrant living in the bronx with 5 kids can work 2 or 3 minimum wage bobs to provide for her family (necessity), why cant these people?

Because they want the easy road (choice)

Dignity is priceless.

That’s the beauty of living in a free modern society, if people are offended by the oldest profession in the world then so be it, if a woman wants to allow her body to be used and abused let them it’s their choice and who are we as men to judge them for it OF couldn’t care less about that site I say good on them for the free choice that allows them to do as they please. There are many male sèx workers these days I say good on them if they are not hurting you or your family let them do as they want, if a married man or woman goes and sees a sěx worker that says a lot to lol

 

[Soundz123]

as for the “topic”: if women want to be sex workers, that’s fine. whether it’s something they enjoy or not depends entirely on them. they shouldn’t rely on outside criticism, unless they’re requesting it. but that’s a rule on pretty much everything. outside criticism is usually just projection or something done with malicious intent. if anything, the only “criticism” worth noting would likely be their customers.

 

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I do see the side of the conversation that sex workers main clientele are perverts, but, I don’t see that it’s any of my business who their clientele are… I mean. Especially in the case of OF workers who don’t necessarily have to ever meet said persons. I have a general disdain for social media (in general) for many reasons. There are two sides to a coin though.

As to whether or not they deserve respect? That depends on your definition of respect. I don’t think it’s possible to “respect” something (or someone) that can’t hurt you. So. I’m not sure respect is the term I would use. Do they deserve the same common decency that you’d afford any other human being ? Yes.

Is it an avenue for empowerment? I’m pretty sure the OF chic that’s making 6 figures gives two fuggs about what people think about her. So. Also Yes. If she’s sad about it she can wipe her tears away with crispy blue hundreds.

If Dolores, a single mother immigrant living in the bronx with 5 kids can work 2 or 3 minimum wage bobs to provide for her family (necessity), why cant these people?

Because they want the easy road (choice)

Dignity is priceless.

As for this. If Dolores could forego working 2 or three minimum wage “bobs” for one that didn’t take up all of her time…. Wouldn’t that be smart?

Dignity is a social construct. If Dolores wants to sell cheeks to simps, and it doesn’t bother Dolores, why the fugg do I care? Sell them cheeks. Why do you care so much about what Dolores is doing? That’s Dolores’s
business. . . .

 

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That’s the beauty of living in a free modern society, if people are offended by the oldest profession in the world then so be it, if a woman wants to allow her body to be used and abused let them it’s their choice and who are we as men to judge them for it OF couldn’t care less about that site I say good on them for the free choice that allows them to do as they please. There are many male sèx workers these days I say good on them if they are not hurting you or your family let them do as they want, if a married man or woman goes and sees a sěx worker that says a lot to lol

Likewise thats the beauty of having an opinion.

It is crippling society. If the drug dealer around the corner is not hurting me or my family let them do what they want? Right? Its not like its damaging those families. The stripper dancing for money is not being sexually objectified. the prostitutes dont lead to abuse and human trafficking. The corn actresses arent being degraded and damaging societal views on relationships.

Or can you explain to me why the destruction of the nuclear family is a good thing?

As the end approaches, people are going to be self-absorbed, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

 

[!tulsa!]

The real travesty is minimum wage jobs. Tell me you don’t give a fugg about someone else’s quality of life without telling me you really don’t give a fugg about someone else’s quality of life.

 

[Bread.]

I do see the side of the conversation that sex workers main clientele are perverts, but, I don’t see that it’s any of my business who their clientele are… I mean. Especially in the case of OF workers who don’t necessarily have to ever meet said persons. I have a general disdain for social media (in general) for many reasons. There are two sides to a coin though.

As to whether or not they deserve respect? That depends on your definition of respect. I don’t think it’s possible to “respect” something (or someone) that can’t hurt you. So. I’m not sure respect is the term I would use. Do they deserve the same common decency that you’d afford any other human being ? Yes.

self - respect.

It is nearly mpossible to respect something that bears no respect to themselves.

Is it an avenue for empowerment? I’m pretty sure the OF chic that’s making 6 figures gives two fuggs about what people think about her. So. Also Yes. If she’s sad about it she can wipe her tears away with crispy blue hundreds.

Arrogance is a good trait? What do you have to say to the OF chick losing her dignity trying to earn 6 figures and selling her 🐈 for $3 a month. Now having to deal with her family, employers, and everyone judging her and treating her with the respect she chose for herself?

There is more to life than money.

As for this. If Dolores could forego working 2 or three minimum wage “bobs” for one that didn’t take up all of her time…. Wouldn’t that be smart?

Dignity is a social construct. If Dolores wants to sell cheeks to simps, and it doesn’t bother Dolores, why the fugg do I care? Sell them cheeks. Why do you care so much about what Dolores is doing? That’s Dolores’s
business. . . .

It affects everyone not just dolores. The best thing dolores is setting an example of living a morally good life even if its a struggle. You seem to think that everyone who is selling their soul and cheeks is earning 6 figures. When the reality is lots of these people still end up broke and or quitting their "professio", but now along with that comes self destruction and the destruction of everyone and everything around them. Not exactly Empowerment. Now compares Dolores who still managed to end up broke but still has her dignity left. Everyone can respect that and that respect can give her a better future.

 

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self - respect.

It is nearly mpossible to respect something that bears no respect to themselves.

Arrogance is a good trait? What do you have to say to the OF chick losing her dignity trying to earn 6 figures and selling her 🐈 for $3 a month. Now having to deal with her family, employers, and everyone judging her and treating her with the respect she chose for herself?

There is more to life than money.


It affects everyone not just dolores. The best thing dolores is setting an example of living a morally good life even if its a struggle. You seem to think that everyone who is selling their soul and cheeks is earning 6 figures. When the reality is lots of these people still end up broke and or quitting their "professio", but now along with that comes self destruction and the destruction of everyone and everything around them. Not exactly Empowerment. Now compares Dolores who still managed to end up broke but still has her dignity left. Everyone can respect that and that respect can give her a better future.

Tell me how effects everyone if Dolores wants to sell her body?

 

[Bread.]

Tell me how effects everyone if Dolores wants to sell her body?

Ive already explained it.

 

[Juddy]

Likewise thats the beauty of having an opinion.

It is crippling society. If the drug dealer around the corner is not hurting me or my family let them do what they want? Right? Its not like its damaging those families. The stripper dancing for money is not being sexually objectified. the prostitutes dont lead to abuse and human trafficking. The corn actresses arent being degraded and damaging societal views on relationships.

Or can you explain to me why the destruction of the nuclear family is a good thing?

Now you are taking it to another level stick to the subject matter at hand ? This is about the oldest profession in the world, if a man and woman want to sell their body for money let them it’s none of your business, most women get their clients from married men, sports stars , high profile celebrities and politicians that’s fact, now you want to discuss the local drug dealers I actually couldn’t care less about the drug dealers if you are stupid enough to take drugs then that’s on you , drugs and prostitution go hand in hand for the most part , then again I know quite a number of stripper and prostitutes who wouldn’t touch drugs or go anywhere near anyone from this site , you are worried about women being degraded and abused take this seriously and start in your own community the fact is Mr and Mrs jones from next door is your biggest problem considering 1 in 4 homes has a woman abuser more women and children are being degraded and abused by men who work and come home to abuse their families.

 

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Now you are taking it to another level stick to the subject matter at hand ? This is about the oldest profession in the world, if a man and woman want to sell their body for money let them it’s none of your business, most women get their clients from married men, sports stars , high profile celebrities and politicians that’s fact, now you want to discuss the local drug dealers I actually couldn’t care less about the drug dealers if you are stupid enough to take drugs then that’s on you , drugs and prostitution go hand in hand for the most part , then again I know quite a number of stripper and prostitutes who wouldn’t touch drugs or go anywhere near anyone from this site , you are worried about women being degraded and abused take this seriously and start in your own community

You used the subject of their profession "not hurting your family, they shouldnt be judged because its their life".
I gave you a similar outcome with drug addicts.
I can use the exact same example you give. If someone is stupid enough to be a prostitute and get murdered by Jeffrey Dahmer then thats on them too? Right? Like what is the difference between a drug dealer prostitute? If prostitutes can use the excuse that the profession is a necessity because theyre poor then why cant drug addicts?
Why have compassion for prostitutes but not drug addicts?

Youre saying stick to the subject now why are you bringing up domestic abuse? You can keep relating everything to everything and it all trickles down to 1 thing. Whether something is good or bad. Morals and ethics are at the core of pretty much every debate.

the fact is Mr and Mrs jones from next door is your biggest problem considering 1 in 4 homes has a woman abuser more women and children are being degraded and abused by men who work and come home to abuse their families.

strange how the facts say otherwise. It is women who are more abusive towards children.

Its explained at least 8 different times. If you have difficulty understanding what a debate is or how to read context go to school and learn how to read.

 

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Moved from debate- but debate forum rules to apply to this thread.

 

[-Luka]

Moved from debate- but debate forum rules to apply to this thread.

Why? Because it’s a sex related topic? That’s daft under 18s are taught about this stuff (maybe not OF) but sex Ed in general.

Plus it prevents other mindsets simply because they’re under 18 as per adult forum rules.

 

[Bread.]

because some dumb bitch cried about it as an attempt to silence my viewpoint


What a nice "debate" tactic

 

[Pandora]

"....until you've walked a mile in their shoes"
"Judge not, lest ye be judged"
"Live and let live"

 

[-Luka]

because some dumb bitch cried about it as an attempt to silence my viewpoint


What a nice "debate" tactic

I very much doubt emileh wanted this moved here. She’d have silenced herself. Plus she was debating with you as per debate thread in debate forum. There was no reason for it to be moved here.

Also she’s 16! Don’t forget the age with the names Bread! You’re better than that. Don’t morph into Hannah 👌

 

[Bread.]

I very much doubt emileh wanted this moved here. She’d have silenced herself. Plus she was debating with you as per debate thread in debate forum. There was no reason for it to be moved here.

Also she’s 16! Don’t forget the age with the names Bread! You’re better than that. Don’t morph into Hannah 👌

I didn't say her. I said dumb bitch.

She has made 0 debates in this thread (like most other threads) all she has done here is spread insults and accusations.

 

[Deleted member 263960]

Why? Because it’s a sex related topic? That’s daft under 18s are taught about this stuff (maybe not OF) but sex Ed in general.

Plus it prevents other mindsets simply because they’re under 18 as per adult forum rules.

Can't say I disagree, tbh. However there were complaints from staff so this is a decent compromise.

 

[Bread.]

"....until you've walked a mile in their shoes"
"Judge not, lest ye be judged"
"Live and let live"

To be human is to make judgements about everything around you.

To claim degrading yourself is empowerment is simply absurd. Take all sex work aside and reread the first sentence. Degradation is not an attribute that only you can attribute to yourelf and there is nothing that's respectable about being degraded.

Everything around us has a moral and societal judgement.

The whole point of a debate is to express and defend your opinions on a topic that has one or more differentiating opinions. You do this by expressing arguments, logic, and evidence .

Not to express your opinions about a chatter which is why you have just been reported.