ban active
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He's also looking at pardoning Gisele Maxwellhe needs this
Trump wants
- Thread starter BlackLivesMatter
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Mate if he does that, even if he does, she'll have to look over her shoulder for the rest of her life, or get very expensive face altering surgery or leave the US and still watch over her back.
What she has been accused of, whether wrongfully accused or whatever, is near certain death in certain prisons, if not today, tomorrow then at a set time by other prisoners.
Nah man, she has some but very little chance outside of prison, take a look at what happened to what was her name? Virginia, no way was it a suicidal event...and it wasn't mhmm and she wasn't even in prison, that Princess Andrew looks shifty (Randy Andy) lol. (Might send him to Scotland to visit anna) hahaha lol
Virginia had a nice house out in the woods in WA tho (cameras at every corner yer) Well at least her kids will enjoy the proceeds and the property i guess, she didn't have to die seriously, struth.
BlackLivesMatter
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Someone who supports Trump please weigh in and tell us how he is improving the economy?
On a lighter note , they will suspend Food Stamps on Nov 1.
On a lighter note , they will suspend Food Stamps on Nov 1.
BlackLivesMatter
Gold Member
Question still stands now as gas is nearing 4 a gallon and the war no closer to the end. Despite this massive cover up in forums the Epstein Files are still not released.
ban active
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they wont its like they have blinders on
Thunderdome
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I drive for a living and pay for my own gas. It's $4.19 a gallon here now. It's hurting me more than the majority of most people here. I drop nearly 60 to 80 dollars in my tank every day right now. I'm adjusting and making it work though. My bills are still paid on time. I'm not going hungry.
As far as the war is concerned I really do hope it ends soon, but i understand why Trump is doing it. I also understand not being able to buy as much fast food, video games, concert tickets, collectibles, ect is really upsetting everyone, but sometimes to fix things you gotta go through some difficult things. Now if there wasn't a reason for this war I'd be singing a very different tune right now. Lol. I admit at the beginning of it I was upset too. I listened to both sides though and came to an understanding of it.
As far as the Epstein files I agree everyone involved in trying to cover them up belongs in jail including Trump, but unless you can admit Bush jr, Obama, and Biden along with most of the watchdog agencies involved in the cover up since 2005 belong in jail too it just shows me this is a Trump thing for you and you don't care about the files or victims at all. It's extremely disingenuous.
Like what do you hope to accomplish here? Nobody is going to jail over the Epstein files because both sides would lose power. Yes Trump is disgusting for choosing power over justice, but you're acting like there was a better choice in this regard. Both sides have been covering it up. So be mad about it as much as you want. It's never going to affect anything.
If you want to strip away all politics and talk to just look at events you'd lose. Epstein went to jail while Trump was president. The Epstein files were released now while he is president. Where was Obama on these files? Biden? Kamala? They knew they were real too, but kept quiet. **** Bush jr literally sent the United States AG to get Epstein out of jail in Florida while he was president.
So stop pretending like there was a better choice in the previous election on this. There wasn't. We'd still have no idea what is in ANY Epstein file if Kamala was president. That's a fact. You are not winning any moral argument on the files.
You all need to realize there's a 3rd group of voters. It's us in the 3rd group that decide the elections. We vote based on policy. In the next election if the Democrat nominee presents the better ideas they absolutely get my vote if i find they are genuine unless the Republican is like Marco Rubio. Then the odds go way up I vote Democrat because Marco Rubio is a shill and establishment republican that hops on any bandwagon he thinks will get him power. That's been his whole career in politics. Unless the Democrat is Gavin or AOC. At that point i might just roll a 20 sided dice to determine my vote. Us independents will never give a crap about smear. We actually use it to crack jokes.
Thunderdome
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You might want to research things before you speak. Ghislaine Maxwell has said she refuses to testify without a pardon. When asked Trump said he would consider it for the purpose of her testifying. He didn't announce he was thinking about pardoning her willy nilly. He just answered someone's question on the matter. Bit different now that it has been put into context right?
The real question is should she be given a pardon if her testimony leads to people that were involved being prosecuted AND convicted. For me right now it's a no. She deserves to rot in prison for the rest of what life she has left and her testimony might not even yield any convictions anyway.
Now if she gets a bunch of people put in jail for these crimes... well that's a pretty big deal too. Do we set one monster free if it leads to more of them in jail? Then again if she could provide any meaningful testimony she'd probably be dead by now too like Epstein. Unless she has real proof that will be released publicly upon her death. Mutually assured destruction. Then again if that proof does exist and is protecting her life that means her testimony could easily get others put in jail too because she has proof.
Also she would only be pardoned in the USA. Not in other countries so she could still end up in jail if she left the USA. She is 63 so she maybe has 15-35 years of life left or so based on female life expectancy and life expectancy going up with new treatments in modern medicine. AI is really gonna jump our life expectancy too. Her current sentence is 20 years. She might live long enough to get out of jail anyway. Now I am talking myself out of my own opinion. See I don't only challenge other people. I challenge myself most of all. Lol.
It's a lot to consider. I am not set on anything now. Would love to hear more thoughts and insights on this.
frying nemo
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Thunderdome
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Trump just had a call with Putin. Putin offered to help secure the Iran nuclear material because Russia and Iran are friends, but Trump told him to focus on ending the war with Ukraine first. Lol. He's pressuring both sides to make a deal.
Right now with the Panama canal, Greenland, Iran, and Venezuela the plan is resource and trade dominance. We are boxing in China and if we do that we also weaken Russia. They are Russia's biggest trading partner. If we weaken Russia the war ends sooner. A lot Russian ships travel north of Greenland to pick up the resources Russia is getting out of the Arctic right now. Climate change has opened up a lot of land up there with melting going on. If we control Greenland it makes it harder for Russia to get those materials out because they would be officially waters of the USA.
The point of all this? Well let's say everything goes according to plan. We achieve all this dominance. In future we could squeeze countries like China and Russia even more than sanctions can let's say if they start an invasion. China wants Taiwan bad. Constantly threatening to take them over and Taiwan is shitting its pants. It doesn't want to be part of China because it likes the USA better. Once this Ukraine war is ended Russia will think twice before invasion as an option. I understand why Russia invaded them, but it needs to end now.
The globalist plan is dying. That's what it boils down to.
NavyWings
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For YEARS every single president has said they need to do something about Iran, Iran can't obtain a nuclear weapon. Since 1979 they've killed over 1000 Americans and have "Death to America" basically as their country's slogan. So along comes Trump who actually does something about it and liberals cry about putting gas in their tank. Talk about myopic vision....
ban active
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You really need to assess the situation before you speak. So you are doing ok and so am I as I earn a decent wage to cover the increases to the economy. I also agree it is not necessary for Iran to have neuclear weapons the same as every other country in this world. But to assume people are only missing out of luxury extras is beyond stupid. There are families struggling to feed their children, elderly unable to source heating/cooling at the high cost of services, there are people who are unable to pay for gas to get to/from work as their wages are low. Stop being so egotestical to believe this is not affecting anyone beyond luxary items!
Thunderdome
Member
Let's run some numbers! I love numbers.
The average American uses about 600 gallons of gas a year. Hmmm divided by 12 months... that's 50 gallons a month multiplied by 4.19 (current price of gas in my area)... $209.50 a month.
Let's rewind back to previous gas prices. 50 gallons a month... multiplied by 2.89(old price of gas in my area)... $144.5 a month.
Now... subtract 144.5 from 209.5 and you get... an increase of 65 a month.
So what you are saying is... an extra 65 dollars a month is a crisis that is going to end the world? Lol.
Would you like me to keep going?
ban active
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Do I need to type slower? Its not just gas prices wow you are not a very sharp tool in the shed!
Whos_Laffing_now
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Youre just repeating their lies. Trump spent years saying Obama and Biden would attack Iran. This is what we call "moving the goal post". Trump attacked Iran for Bibi. Because Trump is borderline mentally challenged and a narcissist, he didnt even have a plan, or if he did, it was drawn on partially fecal caked toilet paper with a crayon. Were close to being depleted of missiles because Trump once again, managed to misuse something until it falls apart. Unfortunately, you cant declare bankruptcy with the military.
Just give it a rest, you guys are just performative, stubborn, and too prideful to admit you spent over a decade blindly supporting a sub mental of a President. Your entire party is a grift and has you brain washed. Thats why you guys flip flop like a pair of Crocs. Do you even have any standards you stand by, or does it depend what Trump says each day?
Also, hes gotten government contractor jobs for both his sons, which is illegal, and something Im sure you spent time bitching about over Hunter Biden. But, Trump can do no wrong. His own close allies even said he "feels like the most powerful man in history" after the King visited.
When this is all said and done, and hes gone one way or the other, hell go down as the worst President, even worse than Nixon/Regan, (who btw just had phone calls released from the archives where both of them are referring to black people as "monkeys who dont wear shoes") because he also happens to be a pedo who undid everything this country once stood for.
Whos_Laffing_now
Bronze Member
He put her in a minimum security prison where she has two rooms, her own stove, a tv, phone, etc. Her place looks like a middle class condo. Shes a known liar, and Trump knows she'll lie for him under oath, which is why he moved her from a maximum security prison, to show her he means buisness.
Alternatively, if Trump wasnt guilty, he wouldn't need the testimony of her, and could prove his "innocence" by just releasing the 95% of the Epstein files he refuses to release. Pam Bondi made sure none of them can harm Trump enough, but she couldn't follow through on charging Comey for the seashells post, so he fired her.
The sooner you guys wake up and drain that swamp, the sooner your party can get back to some normalcy, but I dont see that happening. Now you have these immigrant billionaire trouser stains trying to influence what this country stands for with their goofy ass "Dark Tech bro" bullsh*t with Plantir, three f*ck heads, including Elon who believe in white supremacy, and want to change the countrt, despite the founder of Plantir being half black and half South African Jewish.
Whos_Laffing_now
Bronze Member
Also, the administration wants to try to revoke citizenship, deny citizenship or green cards based on your social media posts. At what point does the MAGA see realize were in a watered down authoritarian state, simply because Republicans have the power and choose to look past this? Every f*cking day I come home, unwind and read the news, and this egg in a diaper has said and done stupid sh*t, then when Friday rolls around, he kicks it up a notch. He does this to influence the stock market btw, because then hes back to his normal sh*t posting on Monday.
Thunderdome
Member
Listen with all the information out there... and you think the files were only redacted while he was president... you obviously have no idea what is going on. Smh.
Thunderdome
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I like Trump's authoritarian state better than the Democrats authoritarian state. What can I say?