Trump wants

I think someone flew of the USA with LSD Spraying the population and allot of the population is just on a bad trip and the other part thinks this is the best trip ever!

I am out of this one.
 
Thunderdome said:
1) I literally just said that. That's why I said you are half right.
3) We elected him based on his economic plan and deportation stance. He's doing exactly what he said he would do. You don't have to like it, but at least respect the democratic process. People would argue establishment politicians have been dismantling this country for nearly 5 decades now and they wouldn't be wrong.
4) Tribalistic? Like you guys aren't? You all parrot everything your leaders say just like his followers parrot everything he or the right side media say. NavyWings saying they have killed over 1000 Americans is the latest bullcrap from the right on Iran. I apologize, but don't sit here and pretend you are anymore independent thinking than anyone else. The media called him Hitler. Then you guys call him Hitler. They have straight up lied about him like the very fine people on both sides thing and destroyed their credibility. They all turned into Fox news. It's like the boy who cried wolf. 99.9% of people voted for Trump based on his policy. Not smear. Stop villainizing them and maybe argue why Kamala had the better plan. You are literally trying to convince people left sided liars are better than right sided liars. They're both turds painted different colors. Lol.
5) No they are leftists that complain about gas and the Iran war. Lol.
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3.) This is bs. No one wanted this economic plan, nor did anyone want what ICE is doing, which is why many of those who voted for him, are shocked when ICE retains them. I wont even get into the farmers. He lied, you guys bought into it and have to keep telling yourselves "trust the plan". Hes been a failure on all
4.) I dont think you know the difference between an echo chamber and tribalistic nationalism. Trump idolizes Hitler because of the power he held. Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed post, his father endorsed the KKK. Trump has a history of racism, specifically when he was a landlord, and denied black people from applying for membership to his golf course. Hitler is the easiest and laziest way to compare him to someone. In case you havent noticed, some in his cabinet even spout white supremacist talking points like Stephen Miller, who was active on Stormfront, despite being Jewish. I think Trump embodies Nero more than Hitler, and no, Im an independent thinker. Theres just no shred of decency with Trump, which is why only 30% approve of anything hes doing. People voted for Trump because its a game to them, and Trump is their sports team. Not a single Trump supporter Ive spoken to could name his policies or what hes done that they benefit from, its always been about "owning the libs". Most of them are not smart or educated. This is why they stay in their echo chamber, the conservative ****** and dont go to /pol. Theyre nothing more than dweebs who want to get a reaction out of liberals, because they have no leg to stand on.

5.) Yes, and with good reason, but to act as though Republicans havent spent their entire existence talking about gas prices is asinine. Whats even more asinine is how MAGA voted for Trump because they claim hes America first and Kamala, Biden, Hillary would drag us into a war. MAGA AND Trump spent years accusing Democrats of potentially starting wars if elected or not removed. Then this happens, and suddenly its "oh were there to save the protestors!" Then they suddenly have nuclear weapons? Now hes focusing on Cuba? Nothing like having a demented, misanthropic moron at helm who would take to Twitter to announce a war. Also, he does this to influence the stock markets for him and his buddies.
 
Thunderdome said:
I don't care he tried to keep a sex scandal secret. He shouldn't have tried to reimburse himself with campaign funds though. Lol.

Actually Trump was never convicted of r**e. The news organization that said that lost the lawsuit over it. I am sure you already knew that. I think it was for 10 million or so. Oh you wanna talk about Hillary and them? Hillary who literally said during her questioning over the Epstein files that Pizza Gate was a hoax even though the Epstein Files have proven they are absolutely real. The FBI under Obama assured everyone they were a hoax too. Obama had 8 years to go after Epstein. Biden had 4. Instead they all just pretended it was not real. They are so innocent and never protected monsters did they? Lol.
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Because it was in civil court, and the goal was to sue for defamation, he wasnt convicted in the usual sense. "The jury did not find him liable for rape but the presiding judge later said that the jury’s finding of sexual abuse met the common definition of r*pe."

I dont like Hillary, especially after what she did with the DNC, but Pizzagate in the qAnon sense, where she was accused of wearing faces of kids she killed and ate, under a pizza parlor, is fake. Pizza is a code word for pedos, thats it, there wasnt this underground network running under a f*ckin pizza parlor.

The Democrats began to seek records on Epstein in 2018 after the Miami Herald's piece on Epstein. I find it comical that its the Democrats fault, when this administration removed 95% of whats in the files, most pertaining to Trump. Pam Bondi was told not to release it. She kept her job because of it, but when she said she had nothing to convict Comey on, thats when she was fired.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
I think someone flew of the USA with LSD Spraying the population and allot of the population is just on a bad trip and the other part thinks this is the best trip ever!

I am out of this one.
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Yeah, its fruitless. The World is watching, yet were all the ones who are wrong, have TDS, and Trump is the best president ever, some are saying the greatest man to ever live!
 
NavyEA-6B said:
1. he still has to anchor his number in some form of real data.
2. no one tried to kill me in any of the countries I went to unless I was dropping ordy on them
3. I don't care
4. I care about the other crimes he was convicted of.
5. It doesn't even make sense.
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Here, let me do your research for you.

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So this is the way this works. One person posts a claim, supported by data, and the other person attempts to dispute said claim with....wait for it.....data. Your opinion that you don't belive it is irrelevant. You don't believe it? It's now on you to disprove it "anchored in some form of real data."
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
3.) This is bs. No one wanted this economic plan, nor did anyone want what ICE is doing, which is why many of those who voted for him, are shocked when ICE retains them. I wont even get into the farmers. He lied, you guys bought into it and have to keep telling yourselves "trust the plan". Hes been a failure on all
4.) I dont think you know the difference between an echo chamber and tribalistic nationalism. Trump idolizes Hitler because of the power he held. Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed post, his father endorsed the KKK. Trump has a history of racism, specifically when he was a landlord, and denied black people from applying for membership to his golf course. Hitler is the easiest and laziest way to compare him to someone. In case you havent noticed, some in his cabinet even spout white supremacist talking points like Stephen Miller, who was active on Stormfront, despite being Jewish. I think Trump embodies Nero more than Hitler, and no, Im an independent thinker. Theres just no shred of decency with Trump, which is why only 30% approve of anything hes doing. People voted for Trump because its a game to them, and Trump is their sports team. Not a single Trump supporter Ive spoken to could name his policies or what hes done that they benefit from, its always been about "owning the libs". Most of them are not smart or educated. This is why they stay in their echo chamber, the conservative ****** and dont go to /pol. Theyre nothing more than dweebs who want to get a reaction out of liberals, because they have no leg to stand on.

5.) Yes, and with good reason, but to act as though Republicans havent spent their entire existence talking about gas prices is asinine. Whats even more asinine is how MAGA voted for Trump because they claim hes America first and Kamala, Biden, Hillary would drag us into a war. MAGA AND Trump spent years accusing Democrats of potentially starting wars if elected or not removed. Then this happens, and suddenly its "oh were there to save the protestors!" Then they suddenly have nuclear weapons? Now hes focusing on Cuba? Nothing like having a demented, misanthropic moron at helm who would take to Twitter to announce a war. Also, he does this to influence the stock markets for him and his buddies.
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3) Over half the country did actually. You can tell by the votes he got. Good indicator there.
4) He might be, but i didn't hear this issue brought up in 2020 when Biden was elected. Once again clean your own house before judging another's.
5) Starting wars we didn't fight is what they did. Sorry, but that's just the way it is.
 
Interesting that every pole in the US today puts him underwater on both the war and his unfilled campaign promises.
Especially now that we have learned that the Ability of Iran to get though US Air Defenses in the middle east are sorely lacking in low and slow flyers.
Even the SPY-( figure it out because sure it is open source information) on the Burkes have issues with low and slow, And we are trading 3 million dollar missiles for 30000 dollar missiles. The cost to benefit ratio is so far been insane.
But Hey lets toss those an an minor adversary rather than keep them for a near peer adversary like say the PLA (PRC Military.)
$4.64 and going up, and the illusion that it is short term is a lie. The Damage to OPEC facilities and not the break away by some OPEC nations will ensure we stay well above $2.50 for a long time.
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
Because it was in civil court, and the goal was to sue for defamation, he wasnt convicted in the usual sense. "The jury did not find him liable for rape but the presiding judge later said that the jury’s finding of sexual abuse met the common definition of r*pe."

I dont like Hillary, especially after what she did with the DNC, but Pizzagate in the qAnon sense, where she was accused of wearing faces of kids she killed and ate, under a pizza parlor, is fake. Pizza is a code word for pedos, thats it, there wasnt this underground network running under a f*ckin pizza parlor.

The Democrats began to seek records on Epstein in 2018 after the Miami Herald's piece on Epstein. I find it comical that its the Democrats fault, when this administration removed 95% of whats in the files, most pertaining to Trump. Pam Bondi was told not to release it. She kept her job because of it, but when she said she had nothing to convict Comey on, thats when she was fired.
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QAnon is not what I'm talking about. Pizza Gate involved Hillary Clinton's campaign manager and his brother. Later confirmed by the Epstein files. Also this wasn't just a democrat issue. Bush jr sent his AG to get Epstein out of jail back in 2005. I've said everyone who tried cover them up belongs in prison including Trump. Covering up a crime is a crime.

Actually when those two guys went to the DoJ they found redacting in the unredacted files from every president since Bush jr. So it's not all Trump. Why wasn't any democrat leading the charge in this either? It should have been a major issue, but even Trump barely mentioned it.

I'm just being fair. You guys rage against Trump, but you have yet to explain why Kamala had the better plan at the time of the election. We wanted change. Trump offered it. We voted for him. Do you really think things just started falling apart in 2016? It's been going on a long time. Some of us haven't forgot that.
 
I haven't raged about anyone.
I have stated Fact.
What the Clinton's did or didn't do has no relevance to what he does. And he was convicted.
He has spent Blood and treasure with out consideration as to the end game of his actions.
He has not improved the cost of living as he promised he has tanked it.
He continues to use the US Military extra Judicially to kill suspected (Operative Word) civilians.
Because it was called the war on drugs doesn't actually make it a war.
Hey but you keep protecting a Convicted Felon. When is out of office, he can't even purchase a fire arm, good thing he gets USSS for life.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
Interesting that every pole in the US today puts him underwater on both the war and his unfilled campaign promises.
Especially now that we have learned that the Ability of Iran to get though US Air Defenses in the middle east are sorely lacking in low and slow flyers.
Even the SPY-( figure it out because sure it is open source information) on the Burkes have issues with low and slow, And we are trading 3 million dollar missiles for 30000 dollar missiles. The cost to benefit ratio is so far been insane.
But Hey lets toss those an an minor adversary rather than keep them for a near peer adversary like say the PLA (PRC Military.)
$4.64 and going up, and the illusion that it is short term is a lie. The Damage to OPEC facilities and not the break away by some OPEC nations will ensure we stay well above $2.50 for a long time.
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Yikes even after 2016 you still believe in polls? Remember Hillary'a 90+ percent chance to win? Lol.

I'm not against the Iran war. I just hope it works.

Name one president who fulfilled every campaign promise they made.

I've already done the math. The average American uses 50 gallons of gas a month. A comparison of pre-war prices and the price of 4.19 is an increase of 65 dollars a month for the average American. Losing 65 dollars a month is a crisis? Lol.

Btw I drive for a living. I currently spend more on gas than most of you. And not by a little.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
I haven't raged about anyone.
I have stated Fact.
What the Clinton's did or didn't do has no relevance to what he does. And he was convicted.
He has spent Blood and treasure with out consideration as to the end game of his actions.
He has not improved the cost of living as he promised he has tanked it.
He continues to use the US Military extra Judicially to kill suspected (Operative Word) civilians.
Because it was called the war on drugs doesn't actually make it a war.
Hey but you keep protecting a Convicted Felon. When is out of office, he can't even purchase a fire arm, good thing he gets USSS for life.
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What are his felonies exactly?
 
NavyWings said:
Here, let me do your research for you.

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So this is the way this works. One person posts a claim, supported by data, and the other person attempts to dispute said claim with....wait for it.....data. Your opinion that you don't belive it is irrelevant. You don't believe it? It's now on you to disprove it "anchored in some form of real data."
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Yeah, this seems like its big brain time. You know why they were killed? Because they were deployed in an area they shouldn't have been. Remember war for profit and proxy wars? And now, youre okay with more dying, which makes your excuse for this war for Israel, pointless. You cant be mad over Americans being killed by Iranians, then be fine with sending more to their deaths. Just like you cant be for criminals being punished, yet vote for a convicted criminal.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
I haven't raged about anyone.
I have stated Fact.
What the Clinton's did or didn't do has no relevance to what he does. And he was convicted.
He has spent Blood and treasure with out consideration as to the end game of his actions.
He has not improved the cost of living as he promised he has tanked it.
He continues to use the US Military extra Judicially to kill suspected (Operative Word) civilians.
Because it was called the war on drugs doesn't actually make it a war.
Hey but you keep protecting a Convicted Felon. When is out of office, he can't even purchase a fire arm, good thing he gets USSS for life.
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These are the felony charges you are raging about. I knew you wouldn't look them or you would make them up.
Would like the technical definitions of these next?

Count 1 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
Count 2 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842457
Count 3 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842460
Count 4 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000138
Count 5 - Guilty
March 16, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
Count 6 - Guilty
March 17, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 846907
Count 7 - Guilty
March 17, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000147
Count 8 - Guilty
April 13, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 9 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858770
Count 10 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002740
Count 11 - Guilty
May 22, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 12 - Guilty
May 22, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 855331
Count 13 - Guilty
May 23, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002700
Count 14 - Guilty
June 16, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 15 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858772
Count 16 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002741
Count 17 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 18 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 861096
Count 19 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002781
Count 20 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 21 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 863641
Count 22 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002821
Count 23 - Guilty
Sept. 11, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 24 - Guilty
Sept. 11, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 868174
Count 25 - Guilty
Sept. 12, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002908
Count 26 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 27 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 872654
Count 28 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002944
Count 29 - Guilty
Nov. 20, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 30 - Guilty
Nov. 20, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 876511
Count 31 - Guilty
Nov. 21, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002980
Count 32 - Guilty
Dec. 1, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 33 - Guilty
Dec. 1, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 877785
Count 34 - Guilty
Dec. 5, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 003006
 
Thunderdome said:
These are the felony charges you are raging about. I knew you wouldn't look them or you would make them up.
Would like the technical definitions of these next?

Count 1 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
Count 2 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842457
Count 3 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842460
Count 4 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000138
Count 5 - Guilty
March 16, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
Count 6 - Guilty
March 17, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 846907
Count 7 - Guilty
March 17, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000147
Count 8 - Guilty
April 13, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 9 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858770
Count 10 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002740
Count 11 - Guilty
May 22, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 12 - Guilty
May 22, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 855331
Count 13 - Guilty
May 23, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002700
Count 14 - Guilty
June 16, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 15 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858772
Count 16 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002741
Count 17 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 18 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 861096
Count 19 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002781
Count 20 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 21 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 863641
Count 22 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002821
Count 23 - Guilty
Sept. 11, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 24 - Guilty
Sept. 11, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 868174
Count 25 - Guilty
Sept. 12, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002908
Count 26 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 27 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 872654
Count 28 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002944
Count 29 - Guilty
Nov. 20, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 30 - Guilty
Nov. 20, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 876511
Count 31 - Guilty
Nov. 21, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002980
Count 32 - Guilty
Dec. 1, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 33 - Guilty
Dec. 1, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 877785
Count 34 - Guilty
Dec. 5, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 003006
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Again I am not raging and does it matter what he was convicted of he was convicted of?
He was convicted.
Just as you or I would be he is a felon. Why he is one does not matter.
 
You seem to want to insist anyone that has an issue with Trump is anti American or a Liberal. There are many that voted for him and have lost faith in his ability to lead.
Stop trying to color my views as Rage.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
Again I am not raging and does it matter what he was convicted of he was convicted of?
He was convicted.
Just as you or I would be he is a felon. Why he is one does not matter.
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I admit he shouldn't have done it, but 34 felonies for trying to cover up he had sex with an adult entertainer is very tame.

When people think of fraud they think of malicious fraud that hurts people. Here he was only trying to help his campaign although someone should have told him nobody would care about it. Saved him money and convictions. Lol.

And I fight the right too. Ask NavyWings.

Both sides look the same to me now. Both focused on the wrong things because you are mislead.
 
I do no converse with NavyWings. He implies he is a Naval Aviator. He maybe be Aircrew, but has no knowledge of basic Naval Aviations skills, and acronyms. In Short at best he is misleading, at worst he is stealing Valor.

Tame or not, the fact is he is a felon.

The other fact is, he has put this Nation in a position of Ridicule from every nation partner we have.

He started a conflict of Extra-Judicial killings the are illegal in our country and the world.

He has with out forethought released classified information to the press by explaining how SpecOps were able to conduct a military action on foreign soil with little to no resistance.

He ordered an attack on a nation that was no clear threat to the US homeland, before he explored any other options, and doing so has cost the lives Military service members.

Under his command, he allowed the SecDef to conduct operations that brought about retaliations from the above country, that the Area Commanders knew we were not prepared to defend against. Low and Slow required and is getting a Billion dollar upgrade to the Patriot System, after the fact.

He now has 3 carrier battle groups and at least 1 Amphibious Readiness Group in one Geographic area, reducing this countries ability to rapidly respond to Near Peer threats much higher on the order of battle and they already have Nuclear weapons.

And I don't need to reiterate the economy, the one blaring issue in every citizens face.

This is not rage it is a statement of fact. People may love that he took on Venezuela's drug cartels. But it was illegal.
They may love that he took the leader of another country to the US, its been done before (though the last time there was an actual federal warrant for the leader) but it was illegal.
Hell it might even be a great thing he attacked Iran, but it still was not in the nations best interest at the time.
 
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