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Whos_Laffing_now said:
He put her in a minimum security prison where she has two rooms, her own stove, a tv, phone, etc. Her place looks like a middle class condo. Shes a known liar, and Trump knows she'll lie for him under oath, which is why he moved her from a maximum security prison, to show her he means buisness.

Alternatively, if Trump wasnt guilty, he wouldn't need the testimony of her, and could prove his "innocence" by just releasing the 95% of the Epstein files he refuses to release. Pam Bondi made sure none of them can harm Trump enough, but she couldn't follow through on charging Comey for the seashells post, so he fired her.

Heck Epstein and Maxwell probably wouldn't have ever seen the inside of a cell if Trump ever won.

The sooner you guys wake up and drain that swamp, the sooner your party can get back to some normalcy, but I dont see that happening. Now you have these immigrant billionaire trouser stains trying to influence what this country stands for with their goofy ass "Dark Tech bro" bullsh*t with Plantir, three f*ck heads, including Elon who believe in white supremacy, and want to change the countrt, despite the founder of Plantir being half black and half South African Jewish.
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And like I told Ban Active if Kamala was president we'd have no files at all. You do know this has been a thing since 2005? Covered up by every president since that year? You wanna go back to that? To presidents and watchdog agencies covering up the Epstein files for decades? Epstein went to prison while Trump was president. The files were released while he was president. Bush jr, Obama, and Biden all pretended they didn't exist. You have no claim to morality or any indignation with your half truths, conspiracy theories, and lack of perspective.
 
That is not true. The democrats couldnt release them at the time. The fact is, Trump ran his campaign on releasing them, but like every campaign promise of his, he never kept it. It doesnt matter about woulda, coulda bs, what matters is the current state of affairs.
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
That is not true. The democrats couldnt release them at the time. The fact is, Trump ran his campaign on releasing them, but like every campaign promise of his, he never kept it. It doesnt matter about woulda, coulda bs, what matters is the current state of affairs.
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So the Democrats couldn't, but the Republicans can? How does that make sense? Lol. You do know they became aware of Epstein in 2005 don't ya? Also releasing them was not a campaign promise. When asked by a reporter he said he would. Two different things. He ran on changing the economy and deportation and putting America first.

How did he not keep any campaign promise, but you see people raging about tariffs and ICE? Kind of a weird statement to make.

Woulda coulda bs matters here because you Democrat supporters are using the files to bludgeon Trump voters with to make them feel bad, but tell me WHAT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE in the last election?
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
That is not true. The democrats couldnt release them at the time. The fact is, Trump ran his campaign on releasing them, but like every campaign promise of his, he never kept it. It doesnt matter about woulda, coulda bs, what matters is the current state of affairs.
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You are correct, once he became a candidate, the FBI has a hands off policy, until after the election. By then though the SCOTUS had said that the executive is immune to prosecution while in office or while transitioning into the office.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
You are correct, once he became a candidate, the FBI has a hands off policy, until after the election. By then though the SCOTUS had said that the executive is immune to prosecution while in office or while transitioning into the office.
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What are you even saying? Lol. That they are only released because he can't be prosecuted by them? If that is the case the AG under Biden said himself there was nothing in the files to convict anyone including Trump when asked so that kind of debunks that theory. Also when those 2 guys from the house went to look at the unredacted files they found they had already been redacted starting in the mid 2000's.

But you wanted to vote for the person who was pretending all the files never even existed? Or am I reading that wrong?

Someone has yet to explain why Trump resisting releasing them is any worse than the ones who pretended they didn't exist and did everything they could to keep Epstein out of jail. They're all guilty of trying to cover it up including Trump. We know Bush jr. sent his AG in 2005 to keep Epstein out of prison. Then Trump becomes president and Epstein ends up in jail. Why is that going unnoticed. If you look at events alone Trump has actually been the only president to talk about and do anything at all about the Epstein files.

When you start holding everyone accountable then maybe you will have a leg to stand on.
 
Thunderdome said:
What are you even saying? Lol. That they are only released because he can't be prosecuted by them? If that is the case the AG under Biden said himself there was nothing in the files to convict anyone including Trump when asked so that kind of debunks that theory. Also when those 2 guys from the house went to look at the unredacted files they found they had already been redacted starting in the mid 2000's.

But you wanted to vote for the person who was pretending all the files never even existed? Or am I reading that wrong?

Someone has yet to explain why Trump resisting releasing them is any worse than the ones who pretended they didn't exist and did everything they could to keep Epstein out of jail. They're all guilty of trying to cover it up including Trump. We know Bush jr. sent his AG in 2005 to keep Epstein out of prison. Then Trump becomes president and Epstein ends up in jail. Why is that going unnoticed. If you look at events alone Trump has actually been the only president to talk about and do anything at all about the Epstein files.

When you start holding everyone accountable then maybe you will have a leg to stand on.
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You are reading it wrong, who I voted for or would vote for has nothing to do with FBI policy.
It was an ongoing investigation, so the DOJ could not and would not release anything to do with it.
Once he became a candidate for President the case was closed, bad timing but what happened, but they have a standing policy that anything that might effect the out come of the election will not be released, they release Bengazi and it trashed Clintons run.
At that point the DOJ will not release anything that is not public record till after the election, and even then if no prosecution is planned they will not comment.
And no SCOTUS has rendered any ability to prosecute him nullified, it doesn't matter what is realeased.

This is what happens when we put Judges in office based on politics.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
You are correct, once he became a candidate, the FBI has a hands off policy, until after the election. By then though the SCOTUS had said that the executive is immune to prosecution while in office or while transitioning into the office.
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These people replying to you never were into politics. Their kiddy f*cker of a God made them. None of them are true Republicans as they've been groomed and raised by the internet. You literally repeat every excuse this Satanic president puts out. They claim we gave TDS when they have more Trump memorabilia than I do Giants memorabilia.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
You are reading it wrong, who I voted for or would vote for has nothing to do with FBI policy.
It was an ongoing investigation, so the DOJ could not and would not release anything to do with it.
Once he became a candidate for President the case was closed, bad timing but what happened, but they have a standing policy that anything that might effect the out come of the election will not be released, they release Bengazi and it trashed Clintons run.
At that point the DOJ will not release anything that is not public record till after the election, and even then if no prosecution is planned they will not comment.
And no SCOTUS has rendered any ability to prosecute him nullified, it doesn't matter what is realeased.

This is what happens when we put Judges in office based on politics.
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A 21+ year investigation... really? Yeah we shouldn't rush it. Lol. I'd agree if it was 2010 or so.

With that being said how many more decades of investigation do you think they need to finally release information? Hmmm 🤔

I guess my point is this. You can't attack people over crap like this because you all turned a blind eye to it when Trump wasn't president. The hypocrisy is amazing.

Just a couple months ago during questioning Hillary Clinton referred to Pizza Gate as a hoax even though it was already proven at the time by the Epstein files.

Pizza Gate if you remember involved her campaign manager and his brother in 2015. Anyone who talked about it on air lost their jobs. Online they were deplatformed. The FBI at the time said it was a hoax, but now we know different. Of course while a democrat is president you believe the FBI. Not now though.
 
Thunderdome said:
A 21+ year investigation... really? Yeah we shouldn't rush it. Lol. I'd agree if it was 2010 or so.

With that being said how many more decades of investigation do you think they need to finally release information? Hmmm 🤔

I guess my point is this. You can't attack people over crap like this because you all turned a blind eye to it when Trump wasn't president. The hypocrisy is amazing.

Just a couple months ago during questioning Hillary Clinton referred to Pizza Gate as a hoax even though it was already proven at the time by the Epstein files.

Pizza Gate if you remember involved her campaign manager and his brother in 2015. Anyone who talked about it on air lost their jobs. Online they were deplatformed. The FBI at the time said it was a hoax, but now we know different. Of course while a democrat is president you believe the FBI. Not now though.
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Okay Fransis. Stop taking acid. and Stop watch Fox news
 
BlackLivesMatter said:
Well the fun begins as the US is ready for a rocky ride, with Trump telling Ukraine they better concede to Russia and his latest announcements.
I will want to hear from Trump supporters on him coming out and saying he wants to annex the Panama Canal and buy Greenland.
What is the going price for Greenland?
If you are a conservative do you support him buying Greenland?
For all you outside of the US feel blessed you are not American for the next four years.
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Nobody is gonna sell him Greenland, if he wants it he's gonna have to start a war and Europe stands ready to protect Denmarks kingdom
 
GoodVsBad said:
Nobody is gonna sell him Greenland, if he wants it he's gonna have to start a war and Europe stands ready to protect Denmarks kingdom
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No he's not gonna start a war. Lol. He's gonna threaten to pull out of NATO. He's already preparing to move troops out of Germany. When he went after Iran this time he asked NATO for help. Here's the thing. We didn't need help. He was setting a tone that we don't need them and when we do ask for help they don't do anything anyway. He's forming the argument to pull out of NATO. Once we are done with Iran they will be crippled for a very long time. Isreal won't have to worry about them and it wouldn't be hard for Isreal to police them. We can pull out of the middle east then too. We'd immediately save nearly 900 billion a year if we stopped being the world police.

This is how it is gonna happen. The ultimatum will be sell us Greenland or we pull out. If the EU says no we pull out and leave them to deal with their own defense. Before you say the EU don't need defense so it doesn't matter tell that to Russia who together we and NATO have been messing with for decades. We pull out our troops. Planes. Navy. We cut their access to our defense telecommunications we provide them. To replace all that the EU is gonna have to raise money quick... the quickest and easiest way... by selling Greenland to the USA. Lol. What a coincidence. Wouldn't be the first time America has acquired land by buying it. Like the Louisiana Purchase we bought from Napoleon to fund his conquest. We'd buy Greenland so the EU and NATO can arm itself. All that wasted money though on buying Greenland from the EU though... unless they buy their weapons from us which we just so happen to make most of the best weapons on the planet. Of course they could buy from China and Russia to smooth over relations, but then they would lose any hope of us coming to their defense in the future and they'd be making their enemies stronger. Lol. We'll see how it all plays out, but trust me America is not going to war over Greenland.

You guys really need to start paying attention though. Lol. I am tired of doing all the heavy lifting around here. Can someone else take over being objective for a day on here? I need a break.
 
What he is doing is playing with fire. So far in 2 years he has public talked about Principles, Procedures, and Tactics, that while not secret not normally discussed in Private.
And in those same years I have head him release information by indirect reference to SAP Code word projects, the will be incalculably value to any near peer adversary.
He has violated US Law, International Law, The code of Conduct governing him and our military (Commander in Chief) means technically he is subject the UCMJ.
He has violated the law of the sea, and caused by unlawful orders, to which he did order the commanding officers in the Venezuela action to commit murder, to which they ordered their subordinates to kill:
1st Civilians that the US DOJ and The DEA, and not violating any law, there is a reason the Coast Guard does Visit Board Seach and Seizure. Because they have to have probable cause, and are feerally sworn.
2nd Buy relating how a classified weapon effected the Venezuelan, he has literally, with intel work by a near peer actor how to investigate the location of the attack, what to ask, and they will unravel it till they can reverse engineer it.
3rd By using the Military to attack and even violate thier airspace and conduct military action against the Country of Venezuela, has placed the United States at a state of War.

the list goes on.
He will be the reason or children had to fight another major war.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
What he is doing is playing with fire. So far in 2 years he has public talked about Principles, Procedures, and Tactics, that while not secret not normally discussed in Private.
And in those same years I have head him release information by indirect reference to SAP Code word projects, the will be incalculably value to any near peer adversary.
He has violated US Law, International Law, The code of Conduct governing him and our military (Commander in Chief) means technically he is subject the UCMJ.
He has violated the law of the sea, and caused by unlawful orders, to which he did order the commanding officers in the Venezuela action to commit murder, to which they ordered their subordinates to kill:
1st Civilians that the US DOJ and The DEA, and not violating any law, there is a reason the Coast Guard does Visit Board Seach and Seizure. Because they have to have probable cause, and are feerally sworn.
2nd Buy relating how a classified weapon effected the Venezuelan, he has literally, with intel work by a near peer actor how to investigate the location of the attack, what to ask, and they will unravel it till they can reverse engineer it.
3rd By using the Military to attack and even violate thier airspace and conduct military action against the Country of Venezuela, has placed the United States at a state of War.

the list goes on.
He will be the reason or children had to fight another major war.
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Actually America tampering with other countries elections and its regime change wars landed us in wars or did that slip your mind? Us tampering with elections and not honoring the post Berlin Wall deal with Russia nearly landed us in a big war with them. In 2023 Russia passed a law stating that if a non-nuclear country was aided by a nuclear country in attacking Russia that it would be considered a joint attack and Putin could declare war on the helping nation. They also expanded the language on what Putin could do with their nuclear weapons. They signed the friendship pact with Iran at this time. They called in North Korean troops to Ukraine to get them battle experience. They were ramping up.

Where was the call from the left for justice when Obama was missile droning innocent families in the middle east because there was a 50% match one of the family members were on the terrorist watch list? Let me tell ya a lot of them weren't. Or when he bombed Libya without congressional approval?

You guys seem to forget history very easily. Also nobody's kid in America is gonna have to fight wars for much longer. That is gonna be taken over by AI too. Lol.

Globalism is dying. Get over it.
 
Thunderdome said:
Let's run some numbers! I love numbers.

The average American uses about 600 gallons of gas a year. Hmmm divided by 12 months... that's 50 gallons a month multiplied by 4.19 (current price of gas in my area)... $209.50 a month.

Let's rewind back to previous gas prices. 50 gallons a month... multiplied by 2.89(old price of gas in my area)... $144.5 a month.

Now... subtract 144.5 from 209.5 and you get... an increase of 65 a month.

So what you are saying is... an extra 65 dollars a month is a crisis that is going to end the world? Lol.

Would you like me to keep going?
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Thank you. That was exactly the same analysis I was going to do.
 
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