Trump wants

the immigrant question/topic is a hot potato right now (similar to brexit, its a toxic political topic and people have opposing views). Honestly tho, I dont think trump is toooo terrible

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World peace? Buying Gaza? Annexing Greenland? Tanking the world economy? Putting tariffs on penguins?

Still waiting for the war in Ukraine to stop. His ‘secret’ plan was supposed to end it in 24 hours. I don’t think Trump is good for anything but Trump himself.
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yes, true "Buying Gaza? Annexing Greenland?" that was slightly insane, no doubt
 
I'm not a fan of drumpf, i just dont think he's the end of the world, i guess.

WELL I can't argue, what you say is true. The annexing Greenland idea was the funniest most insane idea/thing ever though. We can laugh right. Better to laugh rather than cry x
 
RandomGuyUK said:
I'm not a fan of drumpf, i just dont think he's the end of the world, i guess.

WELL I can't argue, what you say is true. The annexing Greenland idea was the funniest most insane idea/thing ever though. We can laugh right. Better to laugh rather than cry x
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There are bits of irony. FEMA denied Arkansas aid for their disaster clean up. Arkansas is a deep red state. I am sorry they will not be getting much needed assistance. I am also not sorry because they got what they voted for.
 
RandomGuyUK said:
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We get our fair share of bad weather events and FEMA was created to help with those. No, it is not tough love not at all. It is more mocking. Arkansas vote overwhelmingly for Maga/Trump/Project 2025 and it is funny a president they supported says too bad whereas the last year president would of had FEMA already out helping. So Arkansas gets what it deserves.
 
I think it is ironic that Canada elected a prime minister who ran on an anti-Trump campaign.
I say good for Canada. I actually am thinking that moving to Canada might be an option. The only negative is that H.R. is from Canada. That is the only thing that is keeping me in the U.S.
 
BlackLivesMatter said:
I think it is ironic that Canada elected a prime minister who ran on an anti-Trump campaign.
I say good for Canada. I actually am thinking that moving to Canada might be an option. The only negative is that H.R. is from Canada. That is the only thing that is keeping me in the U.S.
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Come to Australia. We have a left-leaning party in called ALP or Australian Labor Party.

Imma admit that Albo (Anthony Albanese) has his flaws, but he’s far better than Peter ‘Lord Voldemort’ Dutton of the LNP or Liberal National Party (don’t let the name fool you: they’re conservatives).

I believe my current electorate (we use the Westminster system, where the country is broken into electorates) is Brisbane, and we have an Australian Greens Party guy as the MP (Member of Parliament). They’re more left than the ALP and I think from what I’ve seen, he does a pretty good job, including giving around 30% of his government salary to people in need.

And no, he is not some business mogul or from a rich family. I can vote next year (I miss out on the federal election), but I’ll vote Independent (teal) or Greens.
 
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i started watchin A Handmaids Tale a couple weeks ago, and its scary af to think that the vp prolly wants the USA to be that way
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Have you watched it from the very beginning? I just LOVE this TV show! USA aka Gilead is coming...
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thats a book isnt it? i didnt know there's a movie/film/tv show
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It started back in May 2017 and this new season ( 6 ) is the final one.
 
Kim said:
Have you watched it from the very beginning? I just LOVE this TV show! USA aka Gilead is coming...

It started back in May 2017 and this new season ( 6 ) is the final one.
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YESS!! i watched all of it lol. its so good but so hard to watch. im bout to start season 6 now. i just hope all the people that are bad, get whats comin to them lol
 
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Hmm noticed how when Trump was reelected how there was a real divide. Some of us (me included) could not stand it and his supporters were typing snowflake woke libtard and such?
Now no one is is talking much about Trump. I think we all are just mainly embarrassed about him. Now part of his fan base the Q'Anon is going after him over the Epstein files. Trump has went from "I never knew Jeffrey Epstein" now to "Epstein stole Virginia Giuffre from my Mar- A- Lago spa" This according to King Cheeto was the start of a bitter feud. YIKEs em, Am I saying that Donald and Jeffrey were fighting over a minor? - No . Am I saying Trump ran or funded human trafficking? No. Donnie has said he liked younger models. He was recorded saying grab then by the Trenton,
Are we almost done with him?
 
BlackLivesMatter said:
Hmm noticed how when Trump was reelected how there was a real divide. Some of us (me included) could not stand it and his supporters were typing snowflake woke libtard and such?
Now no one is is talking much about Trump. I think we all are just mainly embarrassed about him. Now part of his fan base the Q'Anon is going after him over the Epstein files. Trump has went from "I never knew Jeffrey Epstein" now to "Epstein stole Virginia Giuffre from my Mar- A- Lago spa" This according to King Cheeto was the start of a bitter feud. YIKEs em, Am I saying that Donald and Jeffrey were fighting over a minor? - No . Am I saying Trump ran or funded human trafficking? No. Donnie has said he liked younger models. He was recorded saying grab then by the Trenton,
Are we almost done with him?
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Let's hope so, but I guarantee these MAGA fools believe all the lies and rubbish that spews out of trumps mouth even now going after Putin the man is insane.
 
he deserves a kick in the gonads
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Any Q-Anon type folks about? Here is my theory. Donnie the Orange and Jeffer the Molester began an heated feud over the hand of a fair 16 year old maiden. Trump steams as the fair maiden turns him down. Donnie feeds long time friend and Miami Herald reporter Julie K Brown information which is used to prosecute Epstein. With Epstein out of the picture, Donnie, Vlad and Price Andrew seize control over a multi billion dollar human traffic network. When Epstein is sentenced , the Art of the Deal guy makes his final deal and pays convicted felon Trenton "Leroy" Mihm 3 million dollars and a promise to pardon in time to kill Jeffrey.
Trump true to his word pardons Leroy. Trenton now roams free 3 million dollars richer.
 
The U.S. Supreme Court is set to overturn Colorado's ban on Conversation Therapy. Conversation therapy is used to manipulate a person into changing their sexual orientation or gender identity
Conversation therapy is a dangerous and non-credited therapy.
Does this ruling mean that Conversation Therapy now will be used as an attempt to get America Straight Again?
Answer is no. All licensed mental health professionals , counselors and therapists will not offer Conversation Therapy. It is against governing bodies rules of ethics.
Just an example of Maga wasting taxpayers money.
 
ban active said:
He's also looking at pardoning Gisele Maxwell
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Mate if he does that, even if he does, she'll have to look over her shoulder for the rest of her life, or get very expensive face altering surgery or leave the US and still watch over her back.

What she has been accused of, whether wrongfully accused or whatever, is near certain death in certain prisons, if not today, tomorrow then at a set time by other prisoners.

Nah man, she has some but very little chance outside of prison, take a look at what happened to what was her name? Virginia, no way was it a suicidal event...and it wasn't mhmm and she wasn't even in prison, that Princess Andrew looks shifty (Randy Andy) lol. (Might send him to Scotland to visit anna) hahaha lol

Virginia had a nice house out in the woods in WA tho (cameras at every corner yer) Well at least her kids will enjoy the proceeds and the property i guess, she didn't have to die seriously, struth.
 
Someone who supports Trump please weigh in and tell us how he is improving the economy?
On a lighter note , they will suspend Food Stamps on Nov 1.
 
BlackLivesMatter said:
Someone who supports Trump please weigh in and tell us how he is improving the economy?
On a lighter note , they will suspend Food Stamps on Nov 1.
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Question still stands now as gas is nearing 4 a gallon and the war no closer to the end. Despite this massive cover up in forums the Epstein Files are still not released.
 
BlackLivesMatter said:
Question still stands now as gas is nearing 4 a gallon and the war no closer to the end. Despite this massive cover up in forums the Epstein Files are still not released.
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I drive for a living and pay for my own gas. It's $4.19 a gallon here now. It's hurting me more than the majority of most people here. I drop nearly 60 to 80 dollars in my tank every day right now. I'm adjusting and making it work though. My bills are still paid on time. I'm not going hungry.

As far as the war is concerned I really do hope it ends soon, but i understand why Trump is doing it. I also understand not being able to buy as much fast food, video games, concert tickets, collectibles, ect is really upsetting everyone, but sometimes to fix things you gotta go through some difficult things. Now if there wasn't a reason for this war I'd be singing a very different tune right now. Lol. I admit at the beginning of it I was upset too. I listened to both sides though and came to an understanding of it.

As far as the Epstein files I agree everyone involved in trying to cover them up belongs in jail including Trump, but unless you can admit Bush jr, Obama, and Biden along with most of the watchdog agencies involved in the cover up since 2005 belong in jail too it just shows me this is a Trump thing for you and you don't care about the files or victims at all. It's extremely disingenuous.

Like what do you hope to accomplish here? Nobody is going to jail over the Epstein files because both sides would lose power. Yes Trump is disgusting for choosing power over justice, but you're acting like there was a better choice in this regard. Both sides have been covering it up. So be mad about it as much as you want. It's never going to affect anything.

If you want to strip away all politics and talk to just look at events you'd lose. Epstein went to jail while Trump was president. The Epstein files were released now while he is president. Where was Obama on these files? Biden? Kamala? They knew they were real too, but kept quiet. **** Bush jr literally sent the United States AG to get Epstein out of jail in Florida while he was president.

So stop pretending like there was a better choice in the previous election on this. There wasn't. We'd still have no idea what is in ANY Epstein file if Kamala was president. That's a fact. You are not winning any moral argument on the files.

You all need to realize there's a 3rd group of voters. It's us in the 3rd group that decide the elections. We vote based on policy. In the next election if the Democrat nominee presents the better ideas they absolutely get my vote if i find they are genuine unless the Republican is like Marco Rubio. Then the odds go way up I vote Democrat because Marco Rubio is a shill and establishment republican that hops on any bandwagon he thinks will get him power. That's been his whole career in politics. Unless the Democrat is Gavin or AOC. At that point i might just roll a 20 sided dice to determine my vote. Us independents will never give a crap about smear. We actually use it to crack jokes.
 
ban active said:
He's also looking at pardoning Gisele Maxwell
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You might want to research things before you speak. Ghislaine Maxwell has said she refuses to testify without a pardon. When asked Trump said he would consider it for the purpose of her testifying. He didn't announce he was thinking about pardoning her willy nilly. He just answered someone's question on the matter. Bit different now that it has been put into context right?

The real question is should she be given a pardon if her testimony leads to people that were involved being prosecuted AND convicted. For me right now it's a no. She deserves to rot in prison for the rest of what life she has left and her testimony might not even yield any convictions anyway.

Now if she gets a bunch of people put in jail for these crimes... well that's a pretty big deal too. Do we set one monster free if it leads to more of them in jail? Then again if she could provide any meaningful testimony she'd probably be dead by now too like Epstein. Unless she has real proof that will be released publicly upon her death. Mutually assured destruction. Then again if that proof does exist and is protecting her life that means her testimony could easily get others put in jail too because she has proof.

Also she would only be pardoned in the USA. Not in other countries so she could still end up in jail if she left the USA. She is 63 so she maybe has 15-35 years of life left or so based on female life expectancy and life expectancy going up with new treatments in modern medicine. AI is really gonna jump our life expectancy too. Her current sentence is 20 years. She might live long enough to get out of jail anyway. Now I am talking myself out of my own opinion. See I don't only challenge other people. I challenge myself most of all. Lol.

It's a lot to consider. I am not set on anything now. Would love to hear more thoughts and insights on this.
 
BlackLivesMatter said:
Well the fun begins as the US is ready for a rocky ride, with Trump telling Ukraine they better concede to Russia and his latest announcements.
I will want to hear from Trump supporters on him coming out and saying he wants to annex the Panama Canal and buy Greenland.
What is the going price for Greenland?
If you are a conservative do you support him buying Greenland?
For all you outside of the US feel blessed you are not American for the next four years.
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Trump just had a call with Putin. Putin offered to help secure the Iran nuclear material because Russia and Iran are friends, but Trump told him to focus on ending the war with Ukraine first. Lol. He's pressuring both sides to make a deal.

Right now with the Panama canal, Greenland, Iran, and Venezuela the plan is resource and trade dominance. We are boxing in China and if we do that we also weaken Russia. They are Russia's biggest trading partner. If we weaken Russia the war ends sooner. A lot Russian ships travel north of Greenland to pick up the resources Russia is getting out of the Arctic right now. Climate change has opened up a lot of land up there with melting going on. If we control Greenland it makes it harder for Russia to get those materials out because they would be officially waters of the USA.

The point of all this? Well let's say everything goes according to plan. We achieve all this dominance. In future we could squeeze countries like China and Russia even more than sanctions can let's say if they start an invasion. China wants Taiwan bad. Constantly threatening to take them over and Taiwan is shitting its pants. It doesn't want to be part of China because it likes the USA better. Once this Ukraine war is ended Russia will think twice before invasion as an option. I understand why Russia invaded them, but it needs to end now.

The globalist plan is dying. That's what it boils down to.
 
For YEARS every single president has said they need to do something about Iran, Iran can't obtain a nuclear weapon. Since 1979 they've killed over 1000 Americans and have "Death to America" basically as their country's slogan. So along comes Trump who actually does something about it and liberals cry about putting gas in their tank. Talk about myopic vision....
 
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I drive for a living and pay for my own gas. It's $4.19 a gallon here now. It's hurting me more than the majority of most people here. I drop nearly 60 to 80 dollars in my tank every day right now. I'm adjusting and making it work though. My bills are still paid on time. I'm not going hungry.

As far as the war is concerned I really do hope it ends soon, but i understand why Trump is doing it. I also understand not being able to buy as much fast food, video games, concert tickets, collectibles, ect is really upsetting everyone, but sometimes to fix things you gotta go through some difficult things. Now if there wasn't a reason for this war I'd be singing a very different tune right now. Lol. I admit at the beginning of it I was upset too. I listened to both sides though and came to an understanding of it.

As far as the Epstein files I agree everyone involved in trying to cover them up belongs in jail including Trump, but unless you can admit Bush jr, Obama, and Biden along with most of the watchdog agencies involved in the cover up since 2005 belong in jail too it just shows me this is a Trump thing for you and you don't care about the files or victims at all. It's extremely disingenuous.

Like what do you hope to accomplish here? Nobody is going to jail over the Epstein files because both sides would lose power. Yes Trump is disgusting for choosing power over justice, but you're acting like there was a better choice in this regard. Both sides have been covering it up. So be mad about it as much as you want. It's never going to affect anything.

If you want to strip away all politics and talk to just look at events you'd lose. Epstein went to jail while Trump was president. The Epstein files were released now while he is president. Where was Obama on these files? Biden? Kamala? They knew they were real too, but kept quiet. **** Bush jr literally sent the United States AG to get Epstein out of jail in Florida while he was president.

So stop pretending like there was a better choice in the previous election on this. There wasn't. We'd still have no idea what is in ANY Epstein file if Kamala was president. That's a fact. You are not winning any moral argument on the files.

You all need to realize there's a 3rd group of voters. It's us in the 3rd group that decide the elections. We vote based on policy. In the next election if the Democrat nominee presents the better ideas they absolutely get my vote if i find they are genuine unless the Republican is like Marco Rubio. Then the odds go way up I vote Democrat because Marco Rubio is a shill and establishment republican that hops on any bandwagon he thinks will get him power. That's been his whole career in politics. Unless the Democrat is Gavin or AOC. At that point i might just roll a 20 sided dice to determine my vote. Us independents will never give a crap about smear. We actually use it to crack jokes.
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You really need to assess the situation before you speak. So you are doing ok and so am I as I earn a decent wage to cover the increases to the economy. I also agree it is not necessary for Iran to have neuclear weapons the same as every other country in this world. But to assume people are only missing out of luxury extras is beyond stupid. There are families struggling to feed their children, elderly unable to source heating/cooling at the high cost of services, there are people who are unable to pay for gas to get to/from work as their wages are low. Stop being so egotestical to believe this is not affecting anyone beyond luxary items!
 
ban active said:
You really need to assess the situation before you speak. So you are doing ok and so am I as I earn a decent wage to cover the increases to the economy. I also agree it is not necessary for Iran to have neuclear weapons the same as every other country in this world. But to assume people are only missing out of luxury extras is beyond stupid. There are families struggling to feed their children, elderly unable to source heating/cooling at the high cost of services, there are people who are unable to pay for gas to get to/from work as their wages are low. Stop being so egotestical to believe this is not affecting anyone beyond luxary items!
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Let's run some numbers! I love numbers.

The average American uses about 600 gallons of gas a year. Hmmm divided by 12 months... that's 50 gallons a month multiplied by 4.19 (current price of gas in my area)... $209.50 a month.

Let's rewind back to previous gas prices. 50 gallons a month... multiplied by 2.89(old price of gas in my area)... $144.5 a month.

Now... subtract 144.5 from 209.5 and you get... an increase of 65 a month.

So what you are saying is... an extra 65 dollars a month is a crisis that is going to end the world? Lol.

Would you like me to keep going?
 
Thunderdome said:
Let's run some numbers! I love numbers.

The average American uses about 600 gallons of gas a year. Hmmm divided by 12 months... that's 50 gallons a month multiplied by 4.19 (current price of gas in my area)... $209.50 a month.

Let's rewind back to previous gas prices. 50 gallons a month... multiplied by 2.89(old price of gas in my area)... $144.5 a month.

Now... subtract 144.5 from 209.5 and you get... an increase of 65 a month.

So what you are saying is... an extra 65 dollars a month is a crisis that is going to end the world? Lol.

Would you like me to keep going?
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Do I need to type slower? Its not just gas prices wow you are not a very sharp tool in the shed!
 
NavyWings said:
For YEARS every single president has said they need to do something about Iran, Iran can't obtain a nuclear weapon. Since 1979 they've killed over 1000 Americans and have "Death to America" basically as their country's slogan. So along comes Trump who actually does something about it and liberals cry about putting gas in their tank. Talk about myopic vision....
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Youre just repeating their lies. Trump spent years saying Obama and Biden would attack Iran. This is what we call "moving the goal post". Trump attacked Iran for Bibi. Because Trump is borderline mentally challenged and a narcissist, he didnt even have a plan, or if he did, it was drawn on partially fecal caked toilet paper with a crayon. Were close to being depleted of missiles because Trump once again, managed to misuse something until it falls apart. Unfortunately, you cant declare bankruptcy with the military.

Just give it a rest, you guys are just performative, stubborn, and too prideful to admit you spent over a decade blindly supporting a sub mental of a President. Your entire party is a grift and has you brain washed. Thats why you guys flip flop like a pair of Crocs. Do you even have any standards you stand by, or does it depend what Trump says each day?
Also, hes gotten government contractor jobs for both his sons, which is illegal, and something Im sure you spent time bitching about over Hunter Biden. But, Trump can do no wrong. His own close allies even said he "feels like the most powerful man in history" after the King visited.

When this is all said and done, and hes gone one way or the other, hell go down as the worst President, even worse than Nixon/Regan, (who btw just had phone calls released from the archives where both of them are referring to black people as "monkeys who dont wear shoes") because he also happens to be a **** who undid everything this country once stood for.
 
Thunderdome said:
You might want to research things before you speak. Ghislaine Maxwell has said she refuses to testify without a pardon. When asked Trump said he would consider it for the purpose of her testifying. He didn't announce he was thinking about pardoning her willy nilly. He just answered someone's question on the matter. Bit different now that it has been put into context right?

The real question is should she be given a pardon if her testimony leads to people that were involved being prosecuted AND convicted. For me right now it's a no. She deserves to rot in prison for the rest of what life she has left and her testimony might not even yield any convictions anyway.
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He put her in a minimum security prison where she has two rooms, her own stove, a tv, phone, etc. Her place looks like a middle class condo. Shes a known liar, and Trump knows she'll lie for him under oath, which is why he moved her from a maximum security prison, to show her he means buisness.

Alternatively, if Trump wasnt guilty, he wouldn't need the testimony of her, and could prove his "innocence" by just releasing the 95% of the Epstein files he refuses to release. Pam Bondi made sure none of them can harm Trump enough, but she couldn't follow through on charging Comey for the seashells post, so he fired her.

The sooner you guys wake up and drain that swamp, the sooner your party can get back to some normalcy, but I dont see that happening. Now you have these immigrant billionaire trouser stains trying to influence what this country stands for with their goofy ass "Dark Tech bro" bullsh*t with Plantir, three f*ck heads, including Elon who believe in white supremacy, and want to change the countrt, despite the founder of Plantir being half black and half South African Jewish.
 
Also, the administration wants to try to revoke citizenship, deny citizenship or green cards based on your social media posts. At what point does the MAGA see realize were in a watered down authoritarian state, simply because Republicans have the power and choose to look past this? Every f*cking day I come home, unwind and read the news, and this egg in a diaper has said and done stupid sh*t, then when Friday rolls around, he kicks it up a notch. He does this to influence the stock market btw, because then hes back to his normal sh*t posting on Monday.
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
He put her in a minimum security prison where she has two rooms, her own stove, a tv, phone, etc. Her place looks like a middle class condo. Shes a known liar, and Trump knows she'll lie for him under oath, which is why he moved her from a maximum security prison, to show her he means buisness.

Alternatively, if Trump wasnt guilty, he wouldn't need the testimony of her, and could prove his "innocence" by just releasing the 95% of the Epstein files he refuses to release. Pam Bondi made sure none of them can harm Trump enough, but she couldn't follow through on charging Comey for the seashells post, so he fired her.

The sooner you guys wake up and drain that swamp, the sooner your party can get back to some normalcy, but I dont see that happening. Now you have these immigrant billionaire trouser stains trying to influence what this country stands for with their goofy ass "Dark Tech bro" bullsh*t with Plantir, three f*ck heads, including Elon who believe in white supremacy, and want to change the countrt, despite the founder of Plantir being half black and half South African Jewish.
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Listen with all the information out there... and you think the files were only redacted while he was president... you obviously have no idea what is going on. Smh.
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
Also, the administration wants to try to revoke citizenship, deny citizenship or green cards based on your social media posts. At what point does the MAGA see realize were in a watered down authoritarian state, simply because Republicans have the power and choose to look past this? Every f*cking day I come home, unwind and read the news, and this egg in a diaper has said and done stupid sh*t, then when Friday rolls around, he kicks it up a notch. He does this to influence the stock market btw, because then hes back to his normal sh*t posting on Monday.
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I like Trump's authoritarian state better than the Democrats authoritarian state. What can I say?
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
He put her in a minimum security prison where she has two rooms, her own stove, a tv, phone, etc. Her place looks like a middle class condo. Shes a known liar, and Trump knows she'll lie for him under oath, which is why he moved her from a maximum security prison, to show her he means buisness.

Alternatively, if Trump wasnt guilty, he wouldn't need the testimony of her, and could prove his "innocence" by just releasing the 95% of the Epstein files he refuses to release. Pam Bondi made sure none of them can harm Trump enough, but she couldn't follow through on charging Comey for the seashells post, so he fired her.

Heck Epstein and Maxwell probably wouldn't have ever seen the inside of a cell if Trump ever won.

The sooner you guys wake up and drain that swamp, the sooner your party can get back to some normalcy, but I dont see that happening. Now you have these immigrant billionaire trouser stains trying to influence what this country stands for with their goofy ass "Dark Tech bro" bullsh*t with Plantir, three f*ck heads, including Elon who believe in white supremacy, and want to change the countrt, despite the founder of Plantir being half black and half South African Jewish.
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And like I told Ban Active if Kamala was president we'd have no files at all. You do know this has been a thing since 2005? Covered up by every president since that year? You wanna go back to that? To presidents and watchdog agencies covering up the Epstein files for decades? Epstein went to prison while Trump was president. The files were released while he was president. Bush jr, Obama, and Biden all pretended they didn't exist. You have no claim to morality or any indignation with your half truths, conspiracy theories, and lack of perspective.
 
That is not true. The democrats couldnt release them at the time. The fact is, Trump ran his campaign on releasing them, but like every campaign promise of his, he never kept it. It doesnt matter about woulda, coulda bs, what matters is the current state of affairs.
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
That is not true. The democrats couldnt release them at the time. The fact is, Trump ran his campaign on releasing them, but like every campaign promise of his, he never kept it. It doesnt matter about woulda, coulda bs, what matters is the current state of affairs.
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So the Democrats couldn't, but the Republicans can? How does that make sense? Lol. You do know they became aware of Epstein in 2005 don't ya? Also releasing them was not a campaign promise. When asked by a reporter he said he would. Two different things. He ran on changing the economy and deportation and putting America first.

How did he not keep any campaign promise, but you see people raging about tariffs and ICE? Kind of a weird statement to make.

Woulda coulda bs matters here because you Democrat supporters are using the files to bludgeon Trump voters with to make them feel bad, but tell me WHAT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE in the last election?
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
That is not true. The democrats couldnt release them at the time. The fact is, Trump ran his campaign on releasing them, but like every campaign promise of his, he never kept it. It doesnt matter about woulda, coulda bs, what matters is the current state of affairs.
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You are correct, once he became a candidate, the FBI has a hands off policy, until after the election. By then though the SCOTUS had said that the executive is immune to prosecution while in office or while transitioning into the office.
 
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You are correct, once he became a candidate, the FBI has a hands off policy, until after the election. By then though the SCOTUS had said that the executive is immune to prosecution while in office or while transitioning into the office.
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What are you even saying? Lol. That they are only released because he can't be prosecuted by them? If that is the case the AG under Biden said himself there was nothing in the files to convict anyone including Trump when asked so that kind of debunks that theory. Also when those 2 guys from the house went to look at the unredacted files they found they had already been redacted starting in the mid 2000's.

But you wanted to vote for the person who was pretending all the files never even existed? Or am I reading that wrong?

Someone has yet to explain why Trump resisting releasing them is any worse than the ones who pretended they didn't exist and did everything they could to keep Epstein out of jail. They're all guilty of trying to cover it up including Trump. We know Bush jr. sent his AG in 2005 to keep Epstein out of prison. Then Trump becomes president and Epstein ends up in jail. Why is that going unnoticed. If you look at events alone Trump has actually been the only president to talk about and do anything at all about the Epstein files.

When you start holding everyone accountable then maybe you will have a leg to stand on.
 
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What are you even saying? Lol. That they are only released because he can't be prosecuted by them? If that is the case the AG under Biden said himself there was nothing in the files to convict anyone including Trump when asked so that kind of debunks that theory. Also when those 2 guys from the house went to look at the unredacted files they found they had already been redacted starting in the mid 2000's.

But you wanted to vote for the person who was pretending all the files never even existed? Or am I reading that wrong?

Someone has yet to explain why Trump resisting releasing them is any worse than the ones who pretended they didn't exist and did everything they could to keep Epstein out of jail. They're all guilty of trying to cover it up including Trump. We know Bush jr. sent his AG in 2005 to keep Epstein out of prison. Then Trump becomes president and Epstein ends up in jail. Why is that going unnoticed. If you look at events alone Trump has actually been the only president to talk about and do anything at all about the Epstein files.

When you start holding everyone accountable then maybe you will have a leg to stand on.
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You are reading it wrong, who I voted for or would vote for has nothing to do with FBI policy.
It was an ongoing investigation, so the DOJ could not and would not release anything to do with it.
Once he became a candidate for President the case was closed, bad timing but what happened, but they have a standing policy that anything that might effect the out come of the election will not be released, they release Bengazi and it trashed Clintons run.
At that point the DOJ will not release anything that is not public record till after the election, and even then if no prosecution is planned they will not comment.
And no SCOTUS has rendered any ability to prosecute him nullified, it doesn't matter what is realeased.

This is what happens when we put Judges in office based on politics.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
You are correct, once he became a candidate, the FBI has a hands off policy, until after the election. By then though the SCOTUS had said that the executive is immune to prosecution while in office or while transitioning into the office.
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These people replying to you never were into politics. Their kiddy f*cker of a God made them. None of them are true Republicans as they've been groomed and raised by the internet. You literally repeat every excuse this Satanic president puts out. They claim we gave TDS when they have more Trump memorabilia than I do Giants memorabilia.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
You are reading it wrong, who I voted for or would vote for has nothing to do with FBI policy.
It was an ongoing investigation, so the DOJ could not and would not release anything to do with it.
Once he became a candidate for President the case was closed, bad timing but what happened, but they have a standing policy that anything that might effect the out come of the election will not be released, they release Bengazi and it trashed Clintons run.
At that point the DOJ will not release anything that is not public record till after the election, and even then if no prosecution is planned they will not comment.
And no SCOTUS has rendered any ability to prosecute him nullified, it doesn't matter what is realeased.

This is what happens when we put Judges in office based on politics.
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A 21+ year investigation... really? Yeah we shouldn't rush it. Lol. I'd agree if it was 2010 or so.

With that being said how many more decades of investigation do you think they need to finally release information? Hmmm 🤔

I guess my point is this. You can't attack people over crap like this because you all turned a blind eye to it when Trump wasn't president. The hypocrisy is amazing.

Just a couple months ago during questioning Hillary Clinton referred to Pizza Gate as a hoax even though it was already proven at the time by the Epstein files.

Pizza Gate if you remember involved her campaign manager and his brother in 2015. Anyone who talked about it on air lost their jobs. Online they were deplatformed. The FBI at the time said it was a hoax, but now we know different. Of course while a democrat is president you believe the FBI. Not now though.
 
Thunderdome said:
A 21+ year investigation... really? Yeah we shouldn't rush it. Lol. I'd agree if it was 2010 or so.

With that being said how many more decades of investigation do you think they need to finally release information? Hmmm 🤔

I guess my point is this. You can't attack people over crap like this because you all turned a blind eye to it when Trump wasn't president. The hypocrisy is amazing.

Just a couple months ago during questioning Hillary Clinton referred to Pizza Gate as a hoax even though it was already proven at the time by the Epstein files.

Pizza Gate if you remember involved her campaign manager and his brother in 2015. Anyone who talked about it on air lost their jobs. Online they were deplatformed. The FBI at the time said it was a hoax, but now we know different. Of course while a democrat is president you believe the FBI. Not now though.
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Okay Fransis. Stop taking acid. and Stop watch Fox news
 
BlackLivesMatter said:
Well the fun begins as the US is ready for a rocky ride, with Trump telling Ukraine they better concede to Russia and his latest announcements.
I will want to hear from Trump supporters on him coming out and saying he wants to annex the Panama Canal and buy Greenland.
What is the going price for Greenland?
If you are a conservative do you support him buying Greenland?
For all you outside of the US feel blessed you are not American for the next four years.
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Nobody is gonna sell him Greenland, if he wants it he's gonna have to start a war and Europe stands ready to protect Denmarks kingdom
 
GoodVsBad said:
Nobody is gonna sell him Greenland, if he wants it he's gonna have to start a war and Europe stands ready to protect Denmarks kingdom
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No he's not gonna start a war. Lol. He's gonna threaten to pull out of NATO. He's already preparing to move troops out of Germany. When he went after Iran this time he asked NATO for help. Here's the thing. We didn't need help. He was setting a tone that we don't need them and when we do ask for help they don't do anything anyway. He's forming the argument to pull out of NATO. Once we are done with Iran they will be crippled for a very long time. Isreal won't have to worry about them and it wouldn't be hard for Isreal to police them. We can pull out of the middle east then too. We'd immediately save nearly 900 billion a year if we stopped being the world police.

This is how it is gonna happen. The ultimatum will be sell us Greenland or we pull out. If the EU says no we pull out and leave them to deal with their own defense. Before you say the EU don't need defense so it doesn't matter tell that to Russia who together we and NATO have been messing with for decades. We pull out our troops. Planes. Navy. We cut their access to our defense telecommunications we provide them. To replace all that the EU is gonna have to raise money quick... the quickest and easiest way... by selling Greenland to the USA. Lol. What a coincidence. Wouldn't be the first time America has acquired land by buying it. Like the Louisiana Purchase we bought from Napoleon to fund his conquest. We'd buy Greenland so the EU and NATO can arm itself. All that wasted money though on buying Greenland from the EU though... unless they buy their weapons from us which we just so happen to make most of the best weapons on the planet. Of course they could buy from China and Russia to smooth over relations, but then they would lose any hope of us coming to their defense in the future and they'd be making their enemies stronger. Lol. We'll see how it all plays out, but trust me America is not going to war over Greenland.

You guys really need to start paying attention though. Lol. I am tired of doing all the heavy lifting around here. Can someone else take over being objective for a day on here? I need a break.
 
What he is doing is playing with fire. So far in 2 years he has public talked about Principles, Procedures, and Tactics, that while not secret not normally discussed in Private.
And in those same years I have head him release information by indirect reference to SAP Code word projects, the will be incalculably value to any near peer adversary.
He has violated US Law, International Law, The code of Conduct governing him and our military (Commander in Chief) means technically he is subject the UCMJ.
He has violated the law of the sea, and caused by unlawful orders, to which he did order the commanding officers in the Venezuela action to commit murder, to which they ordered their subordinates to kill:
1st Civilians that the US DOJ and The DEA, and not violating any law, there is a reason the Coast Guard does Visit Board Seach and Seizure. Because they have to have probable cause, and are feerally sworn.
2nd Buy relating how a classified weapon effected the Venezuelan, he has literally, with intel work by a near peer actor how to investigate the location of the attack, what to ask, and they will unravel it till they can reverse engineer it.
3rd By using the Military to attack and even violate thier airspace and conduct military action against the Country of Venezuela, has placed the United States at a state of War.

the list goes on.
He will be the reason or children had to fight another major war.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
What he is doing is playing with fire. So far in 2 years he has public talked about Principles, Procedures, and Tactics, that while not secret not normally discussed in Private.
And in those same years I have head him release information by indirect reference to SAP Code word projects, the will be incalculably value to any near peer adversary.
He has violated US Law, International Law, The code of Conduct governing him and our military (Commander in Chief) means technically he is subject the UCMJ.
He has violated the law of the sea, and caused by unlawful orders, to which he did order the commanding officers in the Venezuela action to commit murder, to which they ordered their subordinates to kill:
1st Civilians that the US DOJ and The DEA, and not violating any law, there is a reason the Coast Guard does Visit Board Seach and Seizure. Because they have to have probable cause, and are feerally sworn.
2nd Buy relating how a classified weapon effected the Venezuelan, he has literally, with intel work by a near peer actor how to investigate the location of the attack, what to ask, and they will unravel it till they can reverse engineer it.
3rd By using the Military to attack and even violate thier airspace and conduct military action against the Country of Venezuela, has placed the United States at a state of War.

the list goes on.
He will be the reason or children had to fight another major war.
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Actually America tampering with other countries elections and its regime change wars landed us in wars or did that slip your mind? Us tampering with elections and not honoring the post Berlin Wall deal with Russia nearly landed us in a big war with them. In 2023 Russia passed a law stating that if a non-nuclear country was aided by a nuclear country in attacking Russia that it would be considered a joint attack and Putin could declare war on the helping nation. They also expanded the language on what Putin could do with their nuclear weapons. They signed the friendship pact with Iran at this time. They called in North Korean troops to Ukraine to get them battle experience. They were ramping up.

Where was the call from the left for justice when Obama was missile droning innocent families in the middle east because there was a 50% match one of the family members were on the terrorist watch list? Let me tell ya a lot of them weren't. Or when he bombed Libya without congressional approval?

You guys seem to forget history very easily. Also nobody's kid in America is gonna have to fight wars for much longer. That is gonna be taken over by AI too. Lol.

Globalism is dying. Get over it.
 
Thunderdome said:
Let's run some numbers! I love numbers.

The average American uses about 600 gallons of gas a year. Hmmm divided by 12 months... that's 50 gallons a month multiplied by 4.19 (current price of gas in my area)... $209.50 a month.

Let's rewind back to previous gas prices. 50 gallons a month... multiplied by 2.89(old price of gas in my area)... $144.5 a month.

Now... subtract 144.5 from 209.5 and you get... an increase of 65 a month.

So what you are saying is... an extra 65 dollars a month is a crisis that is going to end the world? Lol.

Would you like me to keep going?
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Thank you. That was exactly the same analysis I was going to do.
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
Youre just repeating their lies. Trump spent years saying Obama and Biden would attack Iran. This is what we call "moving the goal post". Trump attacked Iran for Bibi. Because Trump is borderline mentally challenged and a narcissist, he didnt even have a plan, or if he did, it was drawn on partially fecal caked toilet paper with a crayon. Were close to being depleted of missiles because Trump once again, managed to misuse something until it falls apart. Unfortunately, you cant declare bankruptcy with the military.

Just give it a rest, you guys are just performative, stubborn, and too prideful to admit you spent over a decade blindly supporting a sub mental of a President. Your entire party is a grift and has you brain washed. Thats why you guys flip flop like a pair of Crocs. Do you even have any standards you stand by, or does it depend what Trump says each day?
Also, hes gotten government contractor jobs for both his sons, which is illegal, and something Im sure you spent time bitching about over Hunter Biden. But, Trump can do no wrong. His own close allies even said he "feels like the most powerful man in history" after the King visited.

When this is all said and done, and hes gone one way or the other, hell go down as the worst President, even worse than Nixon/Regan, (who btw just had phone calls released from the archives where both of them are referring to black people as "monkeys who dont wear shoes") because he also happens to be a **** who undid everything this country once stood for.
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Oh really? Which of these is a lie:

1. For YEARS every single president has said they need to do something about Iran, Iran can't obtain a nuclear weapon.
2. Since 1979 they've killed over 1000 Americans.
3. They have "Death to America" basically as their country's slogan.
4. So along comes Trump who actually does something about it.
5. Liberals cry about putting gas in their tank.

Go. I'll wait.
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
Also, the administration wants to try to revoke citizenship, deny citizenship or green cards based on your social media posts. At what point does the MAGA see realize were in a watered down authoritarian state, simply because Republicans have the power and choose to look past this? Every f*cking day I come home, unwind and read the news, and this egg in a diaper has said and done stupid sh*t, then when Friday rolls around, he kicks it up a notch. He does this to influence the stock market btw, because then hes back to his normal sh*t posting on Monday.
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Easy to state. Show your proof.
 
Oh
NavyEA-6B said:
You are correct, once he became a candidate, the FBI has a hands off policy, until after the election. By then though the SCOTUS had said that the executive is immune to prosecution while in office or while transitioning into the office.
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Oh you mean that hands-off policy like Crossfire Hurricane?
 
NavyEA-6B said:
What he is doing is playing with fire. So far in 2 years he has public talked about Principles, Procedures, and Tactics, that while not secret not normally discussed in Private.
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He's the president. He can classify what he wants, discuss what he wants, declassify what he wants.
NavyEA-6B said:
And in those same years I have head him release information by indirect reference to SAP Code word projects, the will be incalculably value to any near peer adversary.
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Not all SAP code words are classified. Sometimes the code word is classified, sometimes it's not. Like Talent Keyhole(TK) was, then it wasn't.
NavyEA-6B said:
He has violated US Law, International Law, The code of Conduct governing him and our military (Commander in Chief) means technically he is subject the UCMJ.
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No, the president is not subject to the UCMJ. I'm not sure you were ever in the military of you don't know that one.
NavyEA-6B said:
He has violated the law of the sea, and caused by unlawful orders, to which he did order the commanding officers in the Venezuela action to commit murder, to which they ordered their subordinates to kill:
1st Civilians that the US DOJ and The DEA, and not violating any law, there is a reason the Coast Guard does Visit Board Seach and Seizure. Because they have to have probable cause, and are feerally sworn.
2nd Buy relating how a classified weapon effected the Venezuelan, he has literally, with intel work by a near peer actor how to investigate the location of the attack, what to ask, and they will unravel it till they can reverse engineer it.
3rd By using the Military to attack and even violate thier airspace and conduct military action against the Country of Venezuela, has placed the United States at a state of War.
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Here we go again. WRONG. They were stateless vessels being attacked under narcoterrorism designations, the Alien Enemies Act and not "laws of the seas." They were designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs) and Specially Designated Global Terrorists (SDGTs). No different than Obama executing US citizens with drones. Oh wait, Trump wasn't killing US citizens.
NavyEA-6B said:
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Please...keep going on with that list. I'm all ears.
NavyEA-6B said:
He will be the reason or children had to fight another major war.
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Whos_Laffing_now said:
These people replying to you never were into politics. Their kiddy f*cker of a God made them. None of them are true Republicans as they've been groomed and raised by the internet. You literally repeat every excuse this Satanic president puts out. They claim we gave TDS when they have more Trump memorabilia than I do Giants memorabilia.
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I was "into politics" before you were a spot in your dad's underwear.
 
NavyWings said:
Oh really? Which of these is a lie:

1. For YEARS every single president has said they need to do something about Iran, Iran can't obtain a nuclear weapon.
2. Since 1979 they've killed over 1000 Americans.
3. They have "Death to America" basically as their country's slogan.
4. So along comes Trump who actually does something about it.
5. Liberals cry about putting gas in their tank.

Go. I'll wait.
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Hey now those presidents are not Trump so they don't have to be held to what they say and do. Didn't you know that?

You wanna know what Trump's getting elected has really proved me on? Emotion will always override logic and objectivity. It erases memory and destroys morals.

It's absolutely disgusting what mainstream left news has turned this group into. I mean during the 2016 election mainstream media literally platformed David Duke(Leader of the KKK) because it made Trump look bad. The KKK belong in jail. Not on the TV spouting their beliefs!

The left have turned into a group who cheer for assassination attempts on a man who won not just the electoral college, but even the popular vote this time. They think they fight for Democracy, but they are actually fight Democracy itself. They cheer for people who terrorize ordinary citizens just trying to go to work by blocking traffic. For the people who set Teslas on fire while saying we need to go electric. For the people who set buildings on fire. They have no idea what they have become.

“Darkness cannot drive darkness; Light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; Love can do that.”
– Martin Luther King (1963)

“No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.”
– Nelson Mandela (1994)

“Misunderstanding arising from ignorance breeds fear, and fear remains the greatest enemy of peace.”
– Lester B. Pearson

"Where there is love there is life.”
– Mahatma Gandhi

“In the practice of tolerance, one’s enemy is the best teacher.”
– The Dalai Lama
 
Thunderdome said:
Hey now those presidents are not Trump so they don't have to be held to what they say and do. Didn't you know that?

You wanna know what Trump's getting elected has really proved me on? Emotion will always override logic and objectivity. It erases memory and destroys morals.

It's absolutely disgusting what mainstream left news has turned this group into. I mean during the 2016 election mainstream media literally platformed David Duke(Leader of the KKK) because it made Trump look bad. The KKK belong in jail. Not on the TV spouting their beliefs!

The left have turned into a group who cheer for assassination attempts on a man who won not just the electoral college, but even the popular vote this time. They think they fight for Democracy, but they are actually fight Democracy itself. They cheer for people who terrorize ordinary citizens just trying to go to work by blocking traffic. For the people who set Teslas on fire while saying we need to go electric. For the people who set buildings on fire. They have no idea what they have become.

“Darkness cannot drive darkness; Light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; Love can do that.”
– Martin Luther King (1963)

“No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.”
– Nelson Mandela (1994)

“Misunderstanding arising from ignorance breeds fear, and fear remains the greatest enemy of peace.”
– Lester B. Pearson

"Where there is love there is life.”
– Mahatma Gandhi

“In the practice of tolerance, one’s enemy is the best teacher.”
– The Dalai Lama
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I tell my friends, you may not like Trump. That's cool. I don't always like him either. You may not agree with the premise for engaging with Iran. I can understand that too. But once we're in it, rooting for him to fail? That's rooting for the US to fail and IMO that is unacceptable. If you're rooting for us to fail, you're rooting for them to win and that's called treason.
 
Statistics rarely come out in round numbers so saying they have killed 1000 Americans is fabrication.
If Trump had plan and congress approval, it would be all good, he didn't.
He has now ruined the US economy and working on the world economy.
What is he going to do when Iran decides to take what Uranium they have and make a several Dirty Bombs and create a Tel Aviv that glows in the dark?
 
NavyWings said:
I tell my friends, you may not like Trump. That's cool. I don't always like him either. You may not agree with the premise for engaging with Iran. I can understand that too. But once we're in it, rooting for him to fail? That's rooting for the US to fail and IMO that is unacceptable. If you're rooting for us to fail, you're rooting for them to win and that's called treason.
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Nah I completely disagree with the premise you can't criticize or root against the government when it is doing things you don't agree with. Heck that's how America started and our entire system based on the idea if the government isn't working for the majority then we can change it. Lol. Saying it is treason means you believe they deserve the punishment for treason which is death. How is that any different? Rooting for death and destruction against other Americans of any kind (except people hurting other people on purpose for no good reason) or rooting for politicians or political commentators being murdered or assaulted is just plain wrong.

I fight against ignorance and hate with my words. I will probably never change a mind, but I am compelled to do so like everyone else with their beliefs here in this forum. The common thread among most of us is we think we are doing what is right. What is best for the our country of origin, the world, ourselves, and each other whether we are misguided or not. We are all much more similar in this way than we think. We care to our core and that is something I will never be against no matter how much I disagree or say smartass things to people or get frustrated. The battle of ideas should never end.

Use your vote, perspective, and ideas to cause change. Don't use violence or threats of violence.

99.9% of what I hear from people I already know about and have either rejected it or accepted it. That 0.1% that is actually new to me... means everything to me. Whether it be information or a new perspective that I can consider.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
Statistics rarely come out in round numbers so saying they have killed 1000 Americans is fabrication.
If Trump had plan and congress approval, it would be all good, he didn't.
He has now ruined the US economy and working on the world economy.
What is he going to do when Iran decides to take what Uranium they have and make a several Dirty Bombs and create a Tel Aviv that glows in the dark?
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You are misrepresenting what he said. He said OVER 1000 which is not 1000. Lol.
 
NavyWings said:
Oh really? Which of these is a lie:

1. For YEARS every single president has said they need to do something about Iran, Iran can't obtain a nuclear weapon.
2. Since 1979 they've killed over 1000 Americans.
3. They have "Death to America" basically as their country's slogan.
4. So along comes Trump who actually does something about it.
5. Liberals cry about putting gas in their tank.

Go. I'll wait.
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1.) No, they havent.
2.) That's a pebble in a pond compared to the amount Iranians and people in the surrounding Arab Nations. Its fucking idiotic to bitch about the amount of Americans who died by Iran, then be perfectly fine with sending more to their death. This is why Republicans make for the worst Generals. Most of them never served and think brute force is the only way.
3.) Do you not realize how many wish that on this administration? I dont give a damn if some country hates us, thanks to Trump, there's plenty more people around the World that think that. Thanks to the Republican war for profit machine, and their proxy wars for Israel. "They said some mean things about our country so now they deserve to die", you guys are the biggest irrational snow flakes.
4.) Trump has done nothing about it. Only thing Trump is doing is avoiding prison time for his sex crimes against Children, and stabilizing relationships with Russia and China, as they aim to take out Ukraine. If you love Israel so much, put on your Flight jacket and head over to join the IDF, tough guy.
5.) Actually, its Republicucks who obsess about gas prices, and its the only thing they seem to care about, then theyll drive across the country to listen to a borderline mentally retarded man just rant about about absolutely nothing for hours at a podium.
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
1.) No, they havent.
2.) That's a pebble in a pond compared to the amount Iranians and people in the surrounding Arab Nations. Its fucking idiotic to bitch about the amount of Americans who died by Iran, then be perfectly fine with sending more to their death. This is why Republicans make for the worst Generals. Most of them never served and think brute force is the only way.
3.) Do you not realize how many wish that on this administration? I dont give a damn if some country hates us, thanks to Trump, there's plenty more people around the World that think that. Thanks to the Republican war for profit machine, and their proxy wars for Israel. "They said some mean things about our country so now they deserve to die", you guys are the biggest irrational snow flakes.
4.) Trump has done nothing about it. Only thing Trump is doing is avoiding prison time for his sex crimes against Children, and stabilizing relationships with Russia and China, as they aim to take out Ukraine. If you love Israel so much, put on your Flight jacket and head over to join the IDF, tough guy.
5.) Actually, its Republicucks who obsess about gas prices, and its the only thing they seem to care about, then theyll drive across the country to listen to a borderline mentally retarded man just rant about about absolutely nothing for hours at a podium.
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1) They have actually, but didn't say war. Hence Obama's Iran Deal you guys were mad Trump got rid of. You are half right here.
2) I agree here. If you're American don't go to the middle east. It's a pretty obvious thing.
3) Wishing death on a democratically elected official and cheering for attempts is not a democratic thing to do.
4) Nobody supporting him believes he did sex crimes. Sorry the media and democratic leaders have been caught in too many lies to be listened to. Also the some of the leaders he killed in Iran had 15 year old wives. So you must be really happy that they got killed.
5) Ban Active and BLM are not republicucks. Please show them more respect.
 
Thunderdome said:
You are misrepresenting what he said. He said OVER 1000 which is not 1000. Lol.
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And he has no statistical bases for stating any number. For that matter, I doubt if any one knows how many they killed or we killed for that matter.
2. been there and never had an issue.
4. He paid off a porn star he had sex with
5. What the Fudge is a Republican Cuck.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
And he has no statistical bases for stating any number. For that matter, I doubt if any one knows how many they killed or we killed for that matter.
2. been there and never had an issue.
4. He paid off a porn star he had sex with
5. What the Fudge is a Republican Cuck.
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1) I was just correcting your statement. He didn't say 1000 people. He OVER 1000. See?
2) That's irrelevant. Going to a region that hates Americans increases your risk for death.
3) I see you skipped one.
4) Nobody cared about Monica and Bill. Nobody cares about Stormy and Trump.
5) He said it not me.
 
1. he still has to anchor his number in some form of real data.
2. no one tried to kill me in any of the countries I went to unless I was dropping ordy on them
3. I don't care
4. I care about the other crimes he was convicted of.
5. It doesn't even make sense.
 
1) Don't we all.
2) Good for you. That is not the case for everyone.
3) I know. I am just too wise.
4) Seemed like you cared about the Stormy pay off. I mean you brought it up.
5) I agree because it has mostly been the left that have been the ones knocking him about gas prices. Lol.
 
Thunderdome said:
1) They have actually, but didn't say war. Hence Obama's Iran Deal you guys were mad Trump got rid of. You are half right here.
2) I agree here. If you're American don't go to the middle east. It's a pretty obvious thing.
3) Wishing death on a democratically elected official and cheering for attempts is not a democratic thing to do.
4) Nobody supporting him believes he did sex crimes. Sorry the media and democratic leaders have been caught in too many lies to be listened to. Also the some of the leaders he killed in Iran had 15 year old wives. So you must be really happy that they got killed.
5) Ban Active and BLM are not republicucks. Please show them more respect.
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1.) None of them felt war was needed.
3.) I dont care either way. Trump is messing with the entire country and dismantling everything this country stood for while Republicans stand idle, so I empathize with them. He doesnt live rent free in my head, and I dont wish harm on people, but hes definitely going to burn in Hell for all of the evil things hes done and got away with.
4.) Thats because at this point only brain washed people support him. Of course deep down they believe some of it, but thats because MAGA is tribalistic nationalism. They have no where else to turn, because like someone on here who has been banned multiple times, people are sick of their sh*t. MAGA believed Hunter Biden had CP on his laptop, that Biden was a pedophile, but with convincing evidence, including a victim who was interviewed 4 times, because the FBI felt she was credible, they bury their face in the sand. Its all a grift and virtue signaling, pretending to care about catching predators. When most of the time its MAGA being arrested for child exploitation/assault, etc, and not a blue haired "commie" or a drag queen like they claim, that tells you all you need to know about them.
5.) I call them Republicucks, because theyre constantly getting f*card by Trump, then they watch as he f*cks the entire country and enjoy it.
 
Thunderdome said:
4) Nobody cared about Monica and Bill. Nobody cares about Stormy and Trump.
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Nobody cared? They tried to impeach him. Bill didnt pay off Monica. Bill also wasnt guilty of the R word like Trump is. Trump is literally a felon and should be listed as a sex offender. This is what I mean by MAGA being the biggest performative virtue signalars. Trump embodies everything they claim to be against. Everything hes done, theyre projected onto Democrats, whether it be Bill Clinton, Biden, Hillary, etc. When theres evidence or literal convictions against Trump, they dont care.
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
1.) None of them felt war was needed.
3.) I dont care either way. Trump is messing with the entire country and dismantling everything this country stood for while Republicans stand idle, so I empathize with them. He doesnt live rent free in my head, and I dont wish harm on people, but hes definitely going to burn in Hell for all of the evil things hes done and got away with.
4.) Thats because at this point only brain washed people support him. Of course deep down they believe some of it, but thats because MAGA is tribalistic nationalism. They have no where else to turn, because like someone on here who has been banned multiple times, people are sick of their sh*t. MAGA believed Hunter Biden had CP on his laptop, that Biden was a pedophile, but with convincing evidence, including a victim who was interviewed 4 times, because the FBI felt she was credible, they bury their face in the sand. Its all a grift and virtue signaling, pretending to care about catching predators. When most of the time its MAGA being arrested for child exploitation/assault, etc, and not a blue haired "commie" or a drag queen like they claim, that tells you all you need to know about them.
5.) I call them Republicucks, because theyre constantly getting f*card by Trump, then they watch as he f*cks the entire country and enjoy it.
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1) I literally just said that. That's why I said you are half right.
3) We elected him based on his economic plan and deportation stance. He's doing exactly what he said he would do. You don't have to like it, but at least respect the democratic process. People would argue establishment politicians have been dismantling this country for nearly 5 decades now and they wouldn't be wrong.
4) Tribalistic? Like you guys aren't? You all parrot everything your leaders say just like his followers parrot everything he or the right side media say. NavyWings saying they have killed over 1000 Americans is the latest bullcrap from the right on Iran. I apologize, but don't sit here and pretend you are anymore independent thinking than anyone else. The media called him Hitler. Then you guys call him Hitler. They have straight up lied about him like the very fine people on both sides thing and destroyed their credibility. They all turned into Fox news. It's like the boy who cried wolf. 99.9% of people voted for Trump based on his policy. Not smear. Stop villainizing them and maybe argue why Kamala had the better plan. You are literally trying to convince people left sided liars are better than right sided liars. They're both turds painted different colors. Lol.
5) No they are leftists that complain about gas and the Iran war. Lol.
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
Nobody cared? They tried to impeach him. Bill didnt pay off Monica. Bill also wasnt guilty of the R word like Trump is. Trump is literally a felon and should be listed as a sex offender. This is what I mean by MAGA being the biggest performative virtue signalars. Trump embodies everything they claim to be against. Everything hes done, theyre projected onto Democrats, whether it be Bill Clinton, Biden, Hillary, etc. When theres evidence or literal convictions against Trump, they dont care.
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I don't care he tried to keep a sex scandal secret. He shouldn't have tried to reimburse himself with campaign funds though. Lol.

Actually Trump was never convicted of r**e. The news organization that said that lost the lawsuit over it. I am sure you already knew that. I think it was for 10 million or so. Oh you wanna talk about Hillary and them? Hillary who literally said during her questioning over the Epstein files that Pizza Gate was a hoax even though the Epstein Files have proven they are absolutely real. The FBI under Obama assured everyone they were a hoax too. Obama had 8 years to go after Epstein. Biden had 4. Instead they all just pretended it was not real. They are so innocent and never protected monsters did they? Lol.
 
I think someone flew of the USA with LSD Spraying the population and allot of the population is just on a bad trip and the other part thinks this is the best trip ever!

I am out of this one.
 
Thunderdome said:
1) I literally just said that. That's why I said you are half right.
3) We elected him based on his economic plan and deportation stance. He's doing exactly what he said he would do. You don't have to like it, but at least respect the democratic process. People would argue establishment politicians have been dismantling this country for nearly 5 decades now and they wouldn't be wrong.
4) Tribalistic? Like you guys aren't? You all parrot everything your leaders say just like his followers parrot everything he or the right side media say. NavyWings saying they have killed over 1000 Americans is the latest bullcrap from the right on Iran. I apologize, but don't sit here and pretend you are anymore independent thinking than anyone else. The media called him Hitler. Then you guys call him Hitler. They have straight up lied about him like the very fine people on both sides thing and destroyed their credibility. They all turned into Fox news. It's like the boy who cried wolf. 99.9% of people voted for Trump based on his policy. Not smear. Stop villainizing them and maybe argue why Kamala had the better plan. You are literally trying to convince people left sided liars are better than right sided liars. They're both turds painted different colors. Lol.
5) No they are leftists that complain about gas and the Iran war. Lol.
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3.) This is bs. No one wanted this economic plan, nor did anyone want what ICE is doing, which is why many of those who voted for him, are shocked when ICE retains them. I wont even get into the farmers. He lied, you guys bought into it and have to keep telling yourselves "trust the plan". Hes been a failure on all
4.) I dont think you know the difference between an echo chamber and tribalistic nationalism. Trump idolizes Hitler because of the power he held. Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed post, his father endorsed the KKK. Trump has a history of racism, specifically when he was a landlord, and denied black people from applying for membership to his golf course. Hitler is the easiest and laziest way to compare him to someone. In case you havent noticed, some in his cabinet even spout white supremacist talking points like Stephen Miller, who was active on Stormfront, despite being Jewish. I think Trump embodies Nero more than Hitler, and no, Im an independent thinker. Theres just no shred of decency with Trump, which is why only 30% approve of anything hes doing. People voted for Trump because its a game to them, and Trump is their sports team. Not a single Trump supporter Ive spoken to could name his policies or what hes done that they benefit from, its always been about "owning the libs". Most of them are not smart or educated. This is why they stay in their echo chamber, the conservative ****** and dont go to /pol. Theyre nothing more than dweebs who want to get a reaction out of liberals, because they have no leg to stand on.

5.) Yes, and with good reason, but to act as though Republicans havent spent their entire existence talking about gas prices is asinine. Whats even more asinine is how MAGA voted for Trump because they claim hes America first and Kamala, Biden, Hillary would drag us into a war. MAGA AND Trump spent years accusing Democrats of potentially starting wars if elected or not removed. Then this happens, and suddenly its "oh were there to save the protestors!" Then they suddenly have nuclear weapons? Now hes focusing on Cuba? Nothing like having a demented, misanthropic moron at helm who would take to Twitter to announce a war. Also, he does this to influence the stock markets for him and his buddies.
 
Thunderdome said:
I don't care he tried to keep a sex scandal secret. He shouldn't have tried to reimburse himself with campaign funds though. Lol.

Actually Trump was never convicted of r**e. The news organization that said that lost the lawsuit over it. I am sure you already knew that. I think it was for 10 million or so. Oh you wanna talk about Hillary and them? Hillary who literally said during her questioning over the Epstein files that Pizza Gate was a hoax even though the Epstein Files have proven they are absolutely real. The FBI under Obama assured everyone they were a hoax too. Obama had 8 years to go after Epstein. Biden had 4. Instead they all just pretended it was not real. They are so innocent and never protected monsters did they? Lol.
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Because it was in civil court, and the goal was to sue for defamation, he wasnt convicted in the usual sense. "The jury did not find him liable for rape but the presiding judge later said that the jury’s finding of sexual abuse met the common definition of r*pe."

I dont like Hillary, especially after what she did with the DNC, but Pizzagate in the qAnon sense, where she was accused of wearing faces of kids she killed and ate, under a pizza parlor, is fake. Pizza is a code word for pedos, thats it, there wasnt this underground network running under a f*ckin pizza parlor.

The Democrats began to seek records on Epstein in 2018 after the Miami Herald's piece on Epstein. I find it comical that its the Democrats fault, when this administration removed 95% of whats in the files, most pertaining to Trump. Pam Bondi was told not to release it. She kept her job because of it, but when she said she had nothing to convict Comey on, thats when she was fired.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
I think someone flew of the USA with LSD Spraying the population and allot of the population is just on a bad trip and the other part thinks this is the best trip ever!

I am out of this one.
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Yeah, its fruitless. The World is watching, yet were all the ones who are wrong, have TDS, and Trump is the best president ever, some are saying the greatest man to ever live!
 
NavyEA-6B said:
1. he still has to anchor his number in some form of real data.
2. no one tried to kill me in any of the countries I went to unless I was dropping ordy on them
3. I don't care
4. I care about the other crimes he was convicted of.
5. It doesn't even make sense.
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Here, let me do your research for you.

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So this is the way this works. One person posts a claim, supported by data, and the other person attempts to dispute said claim with....wait for it.....data. Your opinion that you don't belive it is irrelevant. You don't believe it? It's now on you to disprove it "anchored in some form of real data."
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
3.) This is bs. No one wanted this economic plan, nor did anyone want what ICE is doing, which is why many of those who voted for him, are shocked when ICE retains them. I wont even get into the farmers. He lied, you guys bought into it and have to keep telling yourselves "trust the plan". Hes been a failure on all
4.) I dont think you know the difference between an echo chamber and tribalistic nationalism. Trump idolizes Hitler because of the power he held. Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed post, his father endorsed the KKK. Trump has a history of racism, specifically when he was a landlord, and denied black people from applying for membership to his golf course. Hitler is the easiest and laziest way to compare him to someone. In case you havent noticed, some in his cabinet even spout white supremacist talking points like Stephen Miller, who was active on Stormfront, despite being Jewish. I think Trump embodies Nero more than Hitler, and no, Im an independent thinker. Theres just no shred of decency with Trump, which is why only 30% approve of anything hes doing. People voted for Trump because its a game to them, and Trump is their sports team. Not a single Trump supporter Ive spoken to could name his policies or what hes done that they benefit from, its always been about "owning the libs". Most of them are not smart or educated. This is why they stay in their echo chamber, the conservative ****** and dont go to /pol. Theyre nothing more than dweebs who want to get a reaction out of liberals, because they have no leg to stand on.

5.) Yes, and with good reason, but to act as though Republicans havent spent their entire existence talking about gas prices is asinine. Whats even more asinine is how MAGA voted for Trump because they claim hes America first and Kamala, Biden, Hillary would drag us into a war. MAGA AND Trump spent years accusing Democrats of potentially starting wars if elected or not removed. Then this happens, and suddenly its "oh were there to save the protestors!" Then they suddenly have nuclear weapons? Now hes focusing on Cuba? Nothing like having a demented, misanthropic moron at helm who would take to Twitter to announce a war. Also, he does this to influence the stock markets for him and his buddies.
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3) Over half the country did actually. You can tell by the votes he got. Good indicator there.
4) He might be, but i didn't hear this issue brought up in 2020 when Biden was elected. Once again clean your own house before judging another's.
5) Starting wars we didn't fight is what they did. Sorry, but that's just the way it is.
 
Interesting that every pole in the US today puts him underwater on both the war and his unfilled campaign promises.
Especially now that we have learned that the Ability of Iran to get though US Air Defenses in the middle east are sorely lacking in low and slow flyers.
Even the SPY-( figure it out because sure it is open source information) on the Burkes have issues with low and slow, And we are trading 3 million dollar missiles for 30000 dollar missiles. The cost to benefit ratio is so far been insane.
But Hey lets toss those an an minor adversary rather than keep them for a near peer adversary like say the PLA (PRC Military.)
$4.64 and going up, and the illusion that it is short term is a lie. The Damage to OPEC facilities and not the break away by some OPEC nations will ensure we stay well above $2.50 for a long time.
 
Whos_Laffing_now said:
Because it was in civil court, and the goal was to sue for defamation, he wasnt convicted in the usual sense. "The jury did not find him liable for rape but the presiding judge later said that the jury’s finding of sexual abuse met the common definition of r*pe."

I dont like Hillary, especially after what she did with the DNC, but Pizzagate in the qAnon sense, where she was accused of wearing faces of kids she killed and ate, under a pizza parlor, is fake. Pizza is a code word for pedos, thats it, there wasnt this underground network running under a f*ckin pizza parlor.

The Democrats began to seek records on Epstein in 2018 after the Miami Herald's piece on Epstein. I find it comical that its the Democrats fault, when this administration removed 95% of whats in the files, most pertaining to Trump. Pam Bondi was told not to release it. She kept her job because of it, but when she said she had nothing to convict Comey on, thats when she was fired.
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QAnon is not what I'm talking about. Pizza Gate involved Hillary Clinton's campaign manager and his brother. Later confirmed by the Epstein files. Also this wasn't just a democrat issue. Bush jr sent his AG to get Epstein out of jail back in 2005. I've said everyone who tried cover them up belongs in prison including Trump. Covering up a crime is a crime.

Actually when those two guys went to the DoJ they found redacting in the unredacted files from every president since Bush jr. So it's not all Trump. Why wasn't any democrat leading the charge in this either? It should have been a major issue, but even Trump barely mentioned it.

I'm just being fair. You guys rage against Trump, but you have yet to explain why Kamala had the better plan at the time of the election. We wanted change. Trump offered it. We voted for him. Do you really think things just started falling apart in 2016? It's been going on a long time. Some of us haven't forgot that.
 
I haven't raged about anyone.
I have stated Fact.
What the Clinton's did or didn't do has no relevance to what he does. And he was convicted.
He has spent Blood and treasure with out consideration as to the end game of his actions.
He has not improved the cost of living as he promised he has tanked it.
He continues to use the US Military extra Judicially to kill suspected (Operative Word) civilians.
Because it was called the war on drugs doesn't actually make it a war.
Hey but you keep protecting a Convicted Felon. When is out of office, he can't even purchase a fire arm, good thing he gets USSS for life.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
Interesting that every pole in the US today puts him underwater on both the war and his unfilled campaign promises.
Especially now that we have learned that the Ability of Iran to get though US Air Defenses in the middle east are sorely lacking in low and slow flyers.
Even the SPY-( figure it out because sure it is open source information) on the Burkes have issues with low and slow, And we are trading 3 million dollar missiles for 30000 dollar missiles. The cost to benefit ratio is so far been insane.
But Hey lets toss those an an minor adversary rather than keep them for a near peer adversary like say the PLA (PRC Military.)
$4.64 and going up, and the illusion that it is short term is a lie. The Damage to OPEC facilities and not the break away by some OPEC nations will ensure we stay well above $2.50 for a long time.
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Yikes even after 2016 you still believe in polls? Remember Hillary'a 90+ percent chance to win? Lol.

I'm not against the Iran war. I just hope it works.

Name one president who fulfilled every campaign promise they made.

I've already done the math. The average American uses 50 gallons of gas a month. A comparison of pre-war prices and the price of 4.19 is an increase of 65 dollars a month for the average American. Losing 65 dollars a month is a crisis? Lol.

Btw I drive for a living. I currently spend more on gas than most of you. And not by a little.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
I haven't raged about anyone.
I have stated Fact.
What the Clinton's did or didn't do has no relevance to what he does. And he was convicted.
He has spent Blood and treasure with out consideration as to the end game of his actions.
He has not improved the cost of living as he promised he has tanked it.
He continues to use the US Military extra Judicially to kill suspected (Operative Word) civilians.
Because it was called the war on drugs doesn't actually make it a war.
Hey but you keep protecting a Convicted Felon. When is out of office, he can't even purchase a fire arm, good thing he gets USSS for life.
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What are his felonies exactly?
 
NavyWings said:
Here, let me do your research for you.

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So this is the way this works. One person posts a claim, supported by data, and the other person attempts to dispute said claim with....wait for it.....data. Your opinion that you don't belive it is irrelevant. You don't believe it? It's now on you to disprove it "anchored in some form of real data."
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Yeah, this seems like its big brain time. You know why they were killed? Because they were deployed in an area they shouldn't have been. Remember war for profit and proxy wars? And now, youre okay with more dying, which makes your excuse for this war for Israel, pointless. You cant be mad over Americans being killed by Iranians, then be fine with sending more to their deaths. Just like you cant be for criminals being punished, yet vote for a convicted criminal.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
I haven't raged about anyone.
I have stated Fact.
What the Clinton's did or didn't do has no relevance to what he does. And he was convicted.
He has spent Blood and treasure with out consideration as to the end game of his actions.
He has not improved the cost of living as he promised he has tanked it.
He continues to use the US Military extra Judicially to kill suspected (Operative Word) civilians.
Because it was called the war on drugs doesn't actually make it a war.
Hey but you keep protecting a Convicted Felon. When is out of office, he can't even purchase a fire arm, good thing he gets USSS for life.
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These are the felony charges you are raging about. I knew you wouldn't look them or you would make them up.
Would like the technical definitions of these next?

Count 1 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
Count 2 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842457
Count 3 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842460
Count 4 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000138
Count 5 - Guilty
March 16, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
Count 6 - Guilty
March 17, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 846907
Count 7 - Guilty
March 17, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000147
Count 8 - Guilty
April 13, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 9 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858770
Count 10 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002740
Count 11 - Guilty
May 22, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 12 - Guilty
May 22, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 855331
Count 13 - Guilty
May 23, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002700
Count 14 - Guilty
June 16, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 15 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858772
Count 16 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002741
Count 17 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 18 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 861096
Count 19 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002781
Count 20 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 21 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 863641
Count 22 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002821
Count 23 - Guilty
Sept. 11, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 24 - Guilty
Sept. 11, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 868174
Count 25 - Guilty
Sept. 12, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002908
Count 26 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 27 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 872654
Count 28 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002944
Count 29 - Guilty
Nov. 20, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 30 - Guilty
Nov. 20, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 876511
Count 31 - Guilty
Nov. 21, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002980
Count 32 - Guilty
Dec. 1, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 33 - Guilty
Dec. 1, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 877785
Count 34 - Guilty
Dec. 5, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 003006
 
Thunderdome said:
These are the felony charges you are raging about. I knew you wouldn't look them or you would make them up.
Would like the technical definitions of these next?

Count 1 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
Count 2 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842457
Count 3 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842460
Count 4 - Guilty
Feb. 14, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000138
Count 5 - Guilty
March 16, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
Count 6 - Guilty
March 17, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 846907
Count 7 - Guilty
March 17, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000147
Count 8 - Guilty
April 13, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 9 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858770
Count 10 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002740
Count 11 - Guilty
May 22, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 12 - Guilty
May 22, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 855331
Count 13 - Guilty
May 23, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002700
Count 14 - Guilty
June 16, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 15 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858772
Count 16 - Guilty
June 19, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002741
Count 17 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 18 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 861096
Count 19 - Guilty
July 11, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002781
Count 20 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 21 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 863641
Count 22 - Guilty
Aug. 1, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002821
Count 23 - Guilty
Sept. 11, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 24 - Guilty
Sept. 11, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 868174
Count 25 - Guilty
Sept. 12, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002908
Count 26 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 27 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 872654
Count 28 - Guilty
Oct. 18, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002944
Count 29 - Guilty
Nov. 20, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 30 - Guilty
Nov. 20, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 876511
Count 31 - Guilty
Nov. 21, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002980
Count 32 - Guilty
Dec. 1, 2017
Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump
Count 33 - Guilty
Dec. 1, 2017
Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 877785
Count 34 - Guilty
Dec. 5, 2017
Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 003006
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Again I am not raging and does it matter what he was convicted of he was convicted of?
He was convicted.
Just as you or I would be he is a felon. Why he is one does not matter.
 
You seem to want to insist anyone that has an issue with Trump is anti American or a Liberal. There are many that voted for him and have lost faith in his ability to lead.
Stop trying to color my views as Rage.
 
NavyEA-6B said:
Again I am not raging and does it matter what he was convicted of he was convicted of?
He was convicted.
Just as you or I would be he is a felon. Why he is one does not matter.
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I admit he shouldn't have done it, but 34 felonies for trying to cover up he had sex with an adult entertainer is very tame.

When people think of fraud they think of malicious fraud that hurts people. Here he was only trying to help his campaign although someone should have told him nobody would care about it. Saved him money and convictions. Lol.

And I fight the right too. Ask NavyWings.

Both sides look the same to me now. Both focused on the wrong things because you are mislead.
 
I do no converse with NavyWings. He implies he is a Naval Aviator. He maybe be Aircrew, but has no knowledge of basic Naval Aviations skills, and acronyms. In Short at best he is misleading, at worst he is stealing Valor.

Tame or not, the fact is he is a felon.

The other fact is, he has put this Nation in a position of Ridicule from every nation partner we have.

He started a conflict of Extra-Judicial killings the are illegal in our country and the world.

He has with out forethought released classified information to the press by explaining how SpecOps were able to conduct a military action on foreign soil with little to no resistance.

He ordered an attack on a nation that was no clear threat to the US homeland, before he explored any other options, and doing so has cost the lives Military service members.

Under his command, he allowed the SecDef to conduct operations that brought about retaliations from the above country, that the Area Commanders knew we were not prepared to defend against. Low and Slow required and is getting a Billion dollar upgrade to the Patriot System, after the fact.

He now has 3 carrier battle groups and at least 1 Amphibious Readiness Group in one Geographic area, reducing this countries ability to rapidly respond to Near Peer threats much higher on the order of battle and they already have Nuclear weapons.

And I don't need to reiterate the economy, the one blaring issue in every citizens face.

This is not rage it is a statement of fact. People may love that he took on Venezuela's drug cartels. But it was illegal.
They may love that he took the leader of another country to the US, its been done before (though the last time there was an actual federal warrant for the leader) but it was illegal.
Hell it might even be a great thing he attacked Iran, but it still was not in the nations best interest at the time.
 
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