Is sexuality a suitable subject for children?

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JosephTheMainMan

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Howdy folks.

As some of you may be aware, people are trying to push for sexuality to be a subject in kindergarten and whatever the American equivalent of primary school is.

Some teachers have already started teaching "LGBTQIA" curriculum.
This is in place of teaching other more important lessons.
Of course this is mostly in America and I don't believe it has happened in my country yet. Hopefully it stays away from my local schools.

Do you believe that sexuality is suitable for children to learn?
If so, how much should they be allowed to know?
 
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Giving yourself away there Bread. Kindergarten is as British as McDonalds
I am in the UK and we don't call it kindergarten.
We call it 'nursery' - and I have no clue what the school version of primary is called.

I know that College is the American high school. Other than that, no clue.

Edit:
Stop making false claims that I am someone else.
Otherwise I will make a complaint about you.
 
I am in the UK and we don't call it kindergarten.
We call it 'nursery' - and I have no clue what the school version of primary is called.

I know that College is the American high school. Other than that, no clue.
Why is a British teenager interested in American kids under 11?
 
Why is a British teenager interested in American kids under 11?

Is it bad to care about the safety of children?
American kids are already failing school and unable to read or write.
Teachers have been saying that kids read and write 2 grades lower.

As for American politics, I am rather interested.
Not only because it sets an example for every other country like The UK.
But also because UK politics is more racial than gender political.
Not my type of politics.
 
^^ @Ness_eb @H.R. PufnStuf I know he’s probably on a VPN but surely to God there’s enough to show that this is Bread evading his ban

You literally have no proof what so ever.
Second of all, even checking my IP will prove I am not on a VPN.
I am on a home ISP in a country that this Bread guy probaby doesnt even know exist - so I am not worried at all.

Keep making false allegations and I will just make a formal complaint.
Second of all, be careful before you throw around predatory allegations.
Those are serious accusations to make on people.

🙂
 
I’m gonna add to this, if the OP is a British teen as he claims, he’d have been taught about sexuality at school.

He’d also know that issues surrounding sexuality are taught in English Primary Schools (he didn’t know that) ….

Some teachers have already started teaching "LGBTQIA" curriculum.
This is in place of teaching other more important lessons.
Of course this is mostly in America and I don't believe it has happened in my country yet. Hopefully it stays away from my local schools
 
I’m gonna add to this, if the OP is a British teen as he claims, he’d have been taught about sexuality at school.

He’d also know that issues surrounding sexuality are taught in English Primary Schools (he didn’t know that) ….

I have finished school.
The closest we came to sexuality was just sex ed.
I am sure England and their schools teach that goofy stuff.

But in Wales, our Welsh schools focus more on Welsh history.
As far as I am aware, they aren't teaching gender politics there.
Just the basic sex ed and how to have safe sex.
 
I have finished school.
The closest we came to sexuality was just sex ed.
I am sure England and their schools teach that goofy stuff.

But in Wales, our Welsh schools focus more on Welsh history.
As far as I am aware, they aren't teaching gender politics there.
Just the basic sex ed and how to have safe sex.
In Wales they have comprehensive RSE policy that covers school life from beginning to end.
 
I don't think anyone is pushing for Kindergarteners to have Sex Ed...

But it is important for young people to learn sex ed and safety shortly before puberty age.

How effective was the evangelical/Catholic strategy of saying "Don't have sex until marriage" and teaching nothing else? Not at all lol.
 
I don't think anyone is pushing for Kindergarteners to have Sex Ed...

But it is important for young people to learn sex ed and safety shortly before puberty age.

How effective was the evangelical/Catholic strategy of saying "Don't have sex until marriage" and teaching nothing else? Not at all lol.

I am just going to assume you are not caught up.
But there are people, who call themselves LGBTQIA, who are attempting to put books in kindergarten that involve sexual acts, sexuality and gender politics. Some teachers are even teaching them a "lgbt curriculum" without the knowledge of parents.

There is also the controversial Drag Queen Story Hour.

THis is one of the many reasons why I dislike their community.
 
I am just going to assume you are not caught up.
But there are people, who call themselves LGBTQIA, who are attempting to put books in kindergarten that involve sexual acts, sexuality and gender politics. Some teachers are even teaching them a "lgbt curriculum" without the knowledge of parents.

There is also the controversial Drag Queen Story Hour.

THis is one of the many reasons why I dislike their community.
I don't think anything beyond the scope of "gay people exist and that's okay" should be taught at that age. Kids need time to figure themselves out. I don't think anything close to a majority of the LGBTQ+ community wants graphic sex to be shown to children as you're implying though.
 
I don't think anything beyond the scope of "gay people exist and that's okay" should be taught at that age. Kids need time to figure themselves out. I don't think anything close to a majority of the LGBTQ+ community wants graphic sex to be shown to children as you're implying though.

It is frightening how many of them actually support it.
They even go through protests and chant
"We're here, we're queer. We're coming for your children."
 
To answer the original question, yes of course why not?

In Scotland we start learning Relationships Sexual Health and Parenthood (RSHP) from the age of 8 (P2) and on up to age 17 (S6). It's a healthy approach.
 
Some teachers have already started teaching "LGBTQIA" curriculum.
But there are people, who call themselves LGBTQIA, who are attempting to put books in kindergarten that involve sexual acts, sexuality and gender politics. Some teachers are even teaching them a "lgbt curriculum" without the knowledge of parents.
Can you please describe what LGBTQIA+ curriculum is? It sounds a bit like you're upset that some children's books have characters with two mommies, two daddies, etc. and I would like to better understand what precisely you're upset about.

There is also the controversial Drag Queen Story Hour.
Can you please describe what your issue is with drag queens reading stories to children?
 
Can you please describe what LGBTQIA+ curriculum is? It sounds a bit like you're upset that some children's books have characters with two mommies, two daddies, etc. and I would like to better understand what precisely you're upset about.


Can you please describe what your issue is with drag queens reading stories to children?

1. The LGBTQIA curriculum was a class being used to educate children on gender politics instead of actual useful skills.

2. The books went way too far. It wasn't as simple as there being 2 mom's or 2 dad's. It specifically talks about sexual acts or children performing sexual acts on each other. This was so bad that a Mayor of a town with these books told the school board to resign or face criminal charges for CP.

3. Drag Queens aren't meant for kids. Grown men wearing sexual outfits.
Some of these involve the drag queens dancing sexually like strippers.
 
1. The LGBTQIA curriculum was a class being used to educate children on gender politics instead of actual useful skills.

2. The books went way too far. It wasn't as simple as there being 2 mom's or 2 dad's. It specifically talks about sexual acts or children performing sexual acts on each other. This was so bad that a Mayor of a town with these books told the school board to resign or face criminal charges for CP.

3. Drag Queens aren't meant for kids. Grown men wearing sexual outfits.
Some of these involve the drag queens dancing sexually like strippers.
Sources please.
 
You also have a search engine right ?
I am sure you are very capable to do some research yourself.
Besides, I am not sure if I am allowed to post urls here.
That's not how debate works. If you make a claim then you have to be able to back it up with credible sources. You don't expect someone challenging you to do that. If you fail to provide credible sources then it's just a random Internet claim and as such, has neither credibility or value.
 
That's not how debate works. If you make a claim then you have to be able to back it up with credible sources. You don't expect someone challenging you to do that. If you fail to provide credible sources then it's just a random Internet claim and as such, has neither credibility or value.

Am I allowed to post urls here ?
 
As long as they're on topic and not malicious. Check with one of the UMs if you're not sure.
 
As long as they're on topic and not malicious. Check with one of the UMs if you're not sure.

For the point about the sexual books being put in schools for children has been covered many times by a man called "Rev. John Amanchukwu" a black youth pastor known for confronting school boards.

You will have no hard time finding videos of him being kicked out of meetings for being inappropriate despite him reading what their school shares.

Secondly, about the story of the Mayor.
A mayor in ohio called Craig Shubert threatend the school board of education with possible criminal charges.

There are also videos of drag Queens doing exactly what I accuse them of. Where children were urged by parents to give money by putting it in their clothes. I believe even school talent shows showed drag Queens.

I simply disagree with this because drag queens are not made for kids.
 
For the point about the sexual books being put in schools for children has been covered many times by a man called "Rev. John Amanchukwu" a black youth pastor known for confronting school boards.

You will have no hard time finding videos of him being kicked out of meetings for being inappropriate despite him reading what their school shares.

Secondly, about the story of the Mayor.
A mayor in ohio called Craig Shubert threatend the school board of education with possible criminal charges.

There are also videos of drag Queens doing exactly what I accuse them of. Where children were urged by parents to give money by putting it in their clothes. I believe even school talent shows showed drag Queens.

I simply disagree with this because drag queens are not made for kids.
Rev. John Amanchukwu? He's a far right christian extremist that supports the removal of abortion and other human rights. He's not a credible source at all. The books he calls sexual are probably harmless. This is not a credible source to back your argument at all.

Now let's look at Craig Shubert. He was forced to resign as Mayor because he tried to link ice fishing with prostitution. The man's an idiot and again not a credible source to back up your argument.

Videos of drag queens drag queening it up? Shocker lol. I'd have seen them as some sort of funny clown at a young age. But again you're making claims without sources and that's not a credible counter argument.

You're not getting the hang of this at all.
 
Rev. John Amanchukwu? He's a far right christian extremist that supports the removal of abortion and other human rights. He's not a credible source at all. The books he calls sexual are probably harmless. This is not a credible source to back your argument at all.

Now let's look at Craig Shubert. He was forced to resign as Mayor because he tried to link ice fishing with prostitution. The man's an idiot and again not a credible source to back up your argument.

Videos of drag queens drag queening it up? Shocker lol. I'd have seen them as some sort of funny clown at a young age. But again you're making claims without sources and that's not a credible counter argument.

You're not getting the hang of this at all.

You are getting upset that a Christian believes in Christian beliefs that abortion is murder hence doesn't want abortion to be allowed?

You need to stop throwing labels around like 'far right', 'extremist' etc.
He is simply a christian. Nothing more or less.

I am going to stop arguing with you because you clearly can't accept sources despite them being very clear and justified. The youth pastor literally reads the material so you can HEAR how bad it is.

The Mayor isn't any less credible. Because I used him as arguing example of people being fed up with this stuff in schools. Just because he later made some weird connection between other stuff doesn't make it any less justified.

You are lucky I have no option to fucking block you.
 
You haven't provided any CREDIBLE sources to back your claims. This is a repeated failing of yours. You can't make random claims to back up what are clearly your own prejudices without expecting them to be challenged and I will continue to do so.

And of course, when you're called on this you resort to argumentum ad hominem. Oh and this time abusive language. Yet you expect to be taken seriously. Think about that.

Try raising threads on normal subjects for a change rather than pushing your right wing extreme religious agenda along with the prejudices it promotes.
 
You haven't provided any CREDIBLE sources to back your claims. This is a repeated failing of yours. You can't make random claims to back up what are clearly your own prejudices without expecting them to be challenged and I will continue to do so.

And of course, when you're called on this you resort to argumentum ad hominem. Oh and this time abusive language. Yet you expect to be taken seriously. Think about that.

Try raising threads on normal subjects for a change rather than pushing your right wing extreme religious agenda along with the prejudices it promotes.

Nothing far right or extreme about it.
Pretty discriminatory of you to call me that simply for having religion.

I will simply ignore you as I post what I want that is deemed suitable.
At the very least, I have proof that I tried to have common ground with you. But you are too childish to even agree to disagree on some things.
 
The majority of the threads you start have a clear agenda that comes from your extreme and conservative religious views. If you push these agendas that promote prejudice against gays, trans and other minority groups then you must expect to be challenged on them and I'm quite happy to do so. If you think that's "childish" then I suggest you take a hard look at your own posts. You continue to make assertions and fail to provide adequate sources and argument to back them up, then you resort to argumentum ad hominem which, by the way, is usually the last resort of the debater that cannot out think their challenger.

If you want to engage on common ground then pick some normal subjects that don't push your religious agenda down peoples' throats and I'll be happy to. Otherwise I'll be continuing to challenge them.
 
The majority of the threads you start have a clear agenda that comes from your extreme and conservative religious views. If you push these agendas that promote prejudice against gays, trans and other minority groups then you must expect to be challenged on them and I'm quite happy to do so. If you think that's "childish" then I suggest you take a hard look at your own posts. You continue to make assertions and fail to provide adequate sources and argument to back them up, then you resort to argumentum ad hominem which, by the way, is usually the last resort of the debater that cannot out think their challenger.

If you want to engage on common ground then pick some normal subjects that don't push your religious agenda down peoples' throats and I'll be happy to. Otherwise I'll be continuing to challenge them.
He may not be Bread, but surely could be his apprentice
 
Howdy folks.

As some of you may be aware, people are trying to push for sexuality to be a subject in kindergarten and whatever the American equivalent of primary school is.

Some teachers have already started teaching "LGBTQIA" curriculum.
This is in place of teaching other more important lessons.
Of course this is mostly in America and I don't believe it has happened in my country yet. Hopefully it stays away from my local schools.

Do you believe that sexuality is suitable for children to learn?
If so, how much should they be allowed to know?

Understanding and acknowledging different sexual orientations among kids isn't a bad idea given how these orientations are more visible in today's society. But having a whole curriculum solely dedicated to it might seem a bit much since the basics can be covered pretty succinctly like how some people like the same gender, opposite gender, or both, and how some folks identify with a different gender than what they were assigned at birth.

To me, it's more about showing kids that they'll encounter all kinds of people in the world—different looks, preferences, behaviors, you name it. It's a bit like how we teach them not to treat others differently because of skin color, disabilities, or economic differences. It's all about fostering an understanding and respect for diversity in people, helping them grow up without unfair judgments.
 
Secondly, about the story of the Mayor.
A mayor in ohio called Craig Shubert threatend the school board of education with possible criminal charges.
The Mayor isn't any less credible. Because I used him as arguing example of people being fed up with this stuff in schools. Just because he later made some weird connection between other stuff doesn't make it any less justified.

I think this looks to be a fairly credible chronology of events with that guy which shows that this...

2. The books went way too far. It wasn't as simple as there being 2 mom's or 2 dad's. It specifically talks about sexual acts or children performing sexual acts on each other. This was so bad that a Mayor of a town with these books told the school board to resign or face criminal charges for CP.
..isn't quite accurate and, importantly, this was to high school seniors - I believe that's around 17/18 years old - which isn't quite how you were pitching the debate:

As some of you may be aware, people are trying to push for sexuality to be a subject in kindergarten and whatever the American equivalent of primary school is.


"Hudson High School Principal Brian Wilch said parents notified him about inappropriate writing prompts being used in a book called "642 Things to Write About" provided to high school seniors who are taking a college credit course called Writing in the Liberal Arts II. The course is offered in association with Hiram College, but is taught by a Hudson teacher in the Hudson High School building.

At the Hudson Board of Education meeting, Wilch said he and his team had apologized to parents and removed the books from the course.

At that same meeting, many parents complained about the prompts, calling them "disgusting," and saying they were examples of "grooming" and "sexualizing" students.

Examples of prompts: "write a sex scene you wouldn't show your mom," and another which said "rewrite the sex scene from above into one that you'd let your mom read."

Mayor Craig Shubert addressed the board and called on them to resign or possibly face criminal charges for distributing what he said was "essentially …child pornography."

In summary, some idiot decided to write something inappropriate in a book but it isn't pornography, the police declined to prosecute on the basis that it's not criminal, the youngest age of the reader was 17 (and it wasn't a book of sexually explicit content), and it's pretty clear that the mayor went OTT.

The pastor. Can't find much on him. His own preaching/sermon videos aren't going to be conclusive on anything. It's like me posting a video and saying "all straight people really want to do the dirty with the same sex and I've seen it everywhere".

Your sources don't support the argument you were making which, if I'm not mistaken, was that kids from about 3 - 10 are being taught about different sexualities in an inappropriate way and that it's replacing education that they should be receiving.


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Drag Queen Story Hour - yeah I don't know how I feel about that. I've not been part of it myself but I've heard mixed comments. I don't believe it's sexualised and I guess it's no different from being read to by Santa or an Elf as long as it's kept appropriate.

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To answer the question posed, I think kids should know about different sexualities not least because they'll see other kids with 2 male parents or 2 female parents and kids need to be aware that it's a thing but that's knowing about relationships, not about sex. If they're not aware of it, then the children of same-sex parents are going to be bullied. They don't need to know about which bits go where and I'd be surprised if there's any evidence that the mechanics of sex are being taught to kids of that age - at least at the lower end of the age bracket.
 
Not for this, that or the other, but the age of nursery kids is from 0 to maximum 5 years old. And I could be hugely mistaken, but kids at those age don't know how to read. As far as I'm aware, the teaching of reading starts from the age of 6. In schools.
 
i see these crazy rantings of they're putting books with sex in them in kindergarten libraries. then you look into the story and it's one high school somewhere or a university.
 
Giving yourself away there Bread. Kindergarten is as British as McDonalds
Lol basically you accuse anyone of being that guy bread if they question your ideology or disagree with your views you done the exact same thing with me
 
Lol basically you accuse anyone of being that guy bread if they question your ideology or disagree with your views you done the exact same thing with me

It’s not about disagreeing with my views. It’s about you and others spewing toxic speech that would most likely get you arrested if you said it in person
 
It’s not about disagreeing with my views. It’s about you and others spewing toxic speech that would most likely get you arrested if you said it in person
give examples of this 'toxic speech ' I have been spewing and in your mind do you think that two people can be the same person? You accused Joseph The Main man of being this bread guy and you also accused me several times
 
the bigger question is why are you so persistantly fascinated with sex, sexuality and children.

NGL I have had the NCMEC website up ready to report you quiet a few times and other that think it is ok to talk about children like you do.
 
give examples of this 'toxic speech ' I have been spewing and in your mind do you think that two people can be the same person? You accused Joseph The Main man of being this bread guy and you also accused me several times
Actually I can’t give examples because it seems you were spam cleaned.

At least one of the forums mods (of which there are only two) clearly had more than a hunch that you were Bread hence why you were banned.

Anyway, take your small díck energy elsewhere please

 
Yes you remain silent on that just like you remained silent on my Transgenders in professional womens boxing thread I started which got deleted
 
the bigger question is why are you so persistantly fascinated with sex, sexuality and children.

NGL I have had the NCMEC website up ready to report you quiet a few times and other that think it is ok to talk about children like you do.
Are you referring to me?
 
Actually I can’t give examples because it seems you were spam cleaned.

At least one of the forums mods (of which there are only two) clearly had more than a hunch that you were Bread hence why you were banned.

Anyway, take your small díck energy elsewhere please

Lol ok so you can't give examples then you resort to petty insults
 
Yes you remain silent on that just like you remained silent on my Transgenders in professional womens boxing thread I started which got deleted
Nobody is obligated to respond to your shít and there seems to be a movement starting here where that kind of crap gets ignored and left to you “like minded” to discuss between yourselves
 
Inkandtatts do you think that two people can be the same person? If not then why accuse more than one person of being this bread guy who you seem obsessed with?
 
Nobody is obligated to respond to your shít and there seems to be a movement starting here where that kind of crap gets ignored and left to you “like minded” to discuss between yourselves
In other words just pretend it's not happening because you know there is no way that 'trans women' I.e MEN should be in womens professional boxing
 
In other words just pretend it's not happening because you know there is no way that 'trans women' I.e MEN should be in womens professional boxing
And I'm not obligated to be compliant in lies and say things I know are not true by using the pronouns of trans people it's not incumbent on me to do that. Misgendering is a self created first world problem they misgender themselves you don't see it happening in Muslim, african countries . Transgender people demand we respect their lies while they disrespect our truth.
 
And I'm not obligated to be compliant in lies and say things I know are not true by using the pronouns of trans people it's not incumbent on me to do that. Misgendering is a self created first world problem they misgender themselves you don't see it happening in Muslim, african countries . Transgender people demand we respect their lies while they disrespect our truth.
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It's so easy to win against people like you because you have an anethema of truth, 'You equate truth with hate because you hate truth'. Yeah I came up with that quote I like that one. Best weapon against you is truth and facts
 
Is it bad to care about the safety of children?
American kids are already failing school and unable to read or write.
Teachers have been saying that kids read and write 2 grades lower.

As for American politics, I am rather interested.
Not only because it sets an example for every other country like The UK.
But also because UK politics is more racial than gender political.
Not my type of politics.
Once again why are you so concerned about American children? Please stay away from our country you are not welcomed.
 
They had a cross dressing day for 8 year old children at a school in canada, High school student Josh Alexander got expelled and arrested for saying there are two genders, Teachers get fired for 'misgendering' This type of thing is prevelant in society now, When feelings take precedence over reality chaos ensues.
 
That's cherry picked data. We talked about transgender people fairly early in RSHP and we talked about same sex relationships. No indoctrination whatsoever just matter of fact discussions of the subjects and tolerance for people's choices. With one or two exceptions everyone just accepted that people are people no matter what they choose to do in relationships. No big deal at all.

See, what people with agendas do is hunt the Internet for extreme examples and utterly ignore the normal majority. Why? Well because they have to reinforce there biased world view of course!
 
Oh and teachers fired for misgendering? Nope. When I was still in school our teachers made no big deal of it they just used the appropriate gender and if they made a mistake then it was a mistake. Nobody ever made a fuss about it. See? Cherry picking data again when the truth is boringly normal.
 
They had a cross dressing day for 8 year old children at a school in canada, High school student Josh Alexander got expelled and arrested for saying there are two genders, Teachers get fired for 'misgendering' This type of thing is prevelant in society now, When feelings take precedence over reality chaos ensues.

That's cherry picked data. We talked about transgender people fairly early in RSHP and we talked about same sex relationships. No indoctrination whatsoever just matter of fact discussions of the subjects and tolerance for people's choices. With one or two exceptions everyone just accepted that people are people no matter what they choose to do in relationships. No big deal at all.

See, what people with agendas do is hunt the Internet for extreme examples and utterly ignore the normal majority. Why? Well because they have to reinforce there biased world view of course!
'Cherry picked data' really? Here are some more examples of the woke madness 1.Male police officers in the uk can now strip search women in custody if they 'identify as female', it used to be only female police officers could do that 2. At a drag queen 'show' for children they had a sign on the wall in pink letters with the words 'it's not gonna lick itself' 3. At a drag queen story hour in a library for children they had a 'rainbow d ildo butt monkey' his a ss was exposed and he had a d ildo between his legs 3. At some gay 'pride' events some of them were naked on the streets while children were there, if it was straight people naked on the streets in front of children they would get arrested for indecent public exposure. 4. The new spokesperson and 'champion' of women's rights for the uk is a 'trans women' I.e a MAN, so out of tens of millions of women to choose from they choose a man. Its with The United Nations 'UN' 5. There are rainbow coloured police cars in the uk 6.A 'trans women' I.e a MAN won the female miss Netherlands beauty contest 7. A 'trans women' I.e a MAN won the female miss portugal beauty contest 8.Dylan mulveney won a 'women of the year' award 9.'Trans women' I.e MEN will now be allowed in womens professional boxing 10 Laws in california parents can lose custody of their own children if they don't allow them to take puberty blockers 11. Laws in canada for forced pronoun use, people can get arrested and jailed if they don't use compelled speech by using their pronouns. I could give many more examples but of course merely SAYING what they are doing and you will call it 'bigotry' 'pushing an agenda' etc.
 
They had a cross dressing day for 8 year old children at a school in canada, High school student Josh Alexander got expelled and arrested for saying there are two genders, Teachers get fired for 'misgendering' This type of thing is prevelant in society now, When feelings take precedence over reality chaos ensues.
Don't care about this drag show whining. You guys are JUST NOW complaining about it when my while life I've known about them. The only thing I thought as a kid were that they were "hermaphrodites" but despite my ignorance, they didn't bother me and I had no desire to bash them or fear them. People would also mistake them for being trans, another group of people who've existed long before the birth of Christ.

Your party just likes to bully minorities now for profit. Target one minority group, make YT videos, live streams about them for rage click bait. You guys only moved onto these groups because bashing gay people is globally no longer acceptable except in places of Africa where colonizers infected their fake Christianity on its people, like Uganda.

I knew what a penis was by grade 2 because kids on the bus at the YMCA would use the term "suck my.." and to me.i thougt it was a popsicle so I asked what one is. You're a fool if you think kids don't know about this stuff and it's odd you guys sexualize gender teachings as well as make up crap that fetishizes it as if a classroom suddenly gets turned into a porn convention.

Whats being taught in schools is to prevent people like you and losers like OP from growing up to be hateful and uninformed. When I grew up, I was one of the few dudes who didn't mind gay people (mostly women would defend them from bullies and if a man did, they were beaten up) but the stigma of AIDS being linked to them was something I had to ask my mom one day when people kept telling me not to sit on the bus next to a supposed gay person because I'll catch his AIDS. My mom explained everything eloquently and told me about her coworker who I met who was gay. Later on he ended up passing away from AIDS and it really got to me because he had adoptive kids.

What I find is that the people so concerned with fake out rage about kids being taught these groups of people exist is thar they :

A.) Don't have kids
B.) Don't care about kids and just talk about them in a political manner. Your party is also notorious for defunding teachers, after school programs, free lunch, programs for kids, benefits for single parents, etc. You people don't care about kids so stop You guys don't care about actual pedos like Priests, religious folk or politicians like Trump. All we hear is "Hunter Biden" or "Bill Clinton" and Trump has over 30 accusations of the r word, but you dismiss everything and now that he's been mentioned as appearing in a film with minors, you guys make it abundantly clear that you don't care and never did.

Example :
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Don't care about this drag show whining. You guys are JUST NOW complaining about it when my while life I've known about them. The only thing I thought as a kid were that they were "hermaphrodites" but despite my ignorance, they didn't bother me and I had no desire to bash them or fear them. People would also mistake them for being trans, another group of people who've existed long before the birth of Christ.

Your party just likes to bully minorities now for profit. Target one minority group, make YT videos, live streams about them for rage click bait. You guys only moved onto these groups because bashing gay people is globally no longer acceptable except in places of Africa where colonizers infected their fake Christianity on its people, like Uganda.

I knew what a penis was by grade 2 because kids on the bus at the YMCA would use the term "suck my.." and to me.i thougt it was a popsicle so I asked what one is. You're a fool if you think kids don't know about this stuff and it's odd you guys sexualize gender teachings as well as make up crap that fetishizes it as if a classroom suddenly gets turned into a porn convention.

Whats being taught in schools is to prevent people like you and losers like OP from growing up to be hateful and uninformed. When I grew up, I was one of the few dudes who didn't mind gay people (mostly women would defend them from bullies and if a man did, they were beaten up) but the stigma of AIDS being linked to them was something I had to ask my mom one day when people kept telling me not to sit on the bus next to a supposed gay person because I'll catch his AIDS. My mom explained everything eloquently and told me about her coworker who I met who was gay. Later on he ended up passing away from AIDS and it really got to me because he had adoptive kids.

What I find is that the people so concerned with fake out rage about kids being taught these groups of people exist is thar they :

A.) Don't have kids
B.) Don't care about kids and just talk about them in a political manner. Your party is also notorious for defunding teachers, after school programs, free lunch, programs for kids, benefits for single parents, etc. You people don't care about kids so stop You guys don't care about actual pedos like Priests, religious folk or politicians like Trump. All we hear is "Hunter Biden" or "Bill Clinton" and Trump has over 30 accusations of the r word, but you dismiss everything and now that he's been mentioned as appearing in a film with minors, you guys make it abundantly clear that you don't care and never did.

Example :
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'My party' ? It's not planet usa and furthermore it's funny you whine about christians and have no problem mocking them yet you don't do the same to muslims, God is in the quran too and it's ILLEGAL to be gay, trans in muslim countries and also many African countries so why do you, lgbt people and their 'allies' remain silent on that fact? Probably because you know that if you say anything then THEY will use the exact same tactics that YOU use against us I.e just call it 'hate' 'bigotry' etc you know you would be called 'islamophobic' so you just ignore the real harm to lgbt people in muslim countries also you should stop pretending it's 1974 and lgbt are oppressed in western countries they got equal rights years ago but when they got it, it wasn't good enough for them hence they demanded special rights, validation and celebration, forcing it onto everyone else.i know victimhood is fundamental to lgbt you must maintain victimhood at all times and it's just clinging to the fact that you USED to be oppressed decades ago hence pretending it's 1974. btw I'm not religious I don't subscribe to any religion
 
The people who used to be oppressed 'lgbt' have become the oppressors hence cancel culture
 
'Cherry picked data' really? Here are some more examples of the woke madness 1.Male police officers in the uk can now strip search women in custody if they 'identify as female', it used to be only female police officers could do that 2. At a drag queen 'show' for children they had a sign on the wall in pink letters with the words 'it's not gonna lick itself' 3. At a drag queen story hour in a library for children they had a 'rainbow d ildo butt monkey' his a ss was exposed and he had a d ildo between his legs 3. At some gay 'pride' events some of them were naked on the streets while children were there, if it was straight people naked on the streets in front of children they would get arrested for indecent public exposure. 4. The new spokesperson and 'champion' of women's rights for the uk is a 'trans women' I.e a MAN, so out of tens of millions of women to choose from they choose a man. Its with The United Nations 'UN' 5. There are rainbow coloured police cars in the uk 6.A 'trans women' I.e a MAN won the female miss Netherlands beauty contest 7. A 'trans women' I.e a MAN won the female miss portugal beauty contest 8.Dylan mulveney won a 'women of the year' award 9.'Trans women' I.e MEN will now be allowed in womens professional boxing 10 Laws in california parents can lose custody of their own children if they don't allow them to take puberty blockers 11. Laws in canada for forced pronoun use, people can get arrested and jailed if they don't use compelled speech by using their pronouns. I could give many more examples but of course merely SAYING what they are doing and you will call it 'bigotry' 'pushing an agenda' etc.
Let's look at those one at a time.

1. This is an area that needs to catch up with society. I can understand why a male officer would be asked to search a suspect that is not biologically female and had not transitioned. That makes sense. The same would go for suspects that are not biologically male and that have not transitioned being searched by female officers.

2. The drag show for children was a pretty harmless event. It was held in a bar apparently and the sign (a neon fixture, not a portable sign) is part of the bar's decor. I'd agree that it would probably have been sensible for the bar's owners or management to cover it up or even switch it off but they didn't and I doubt the kids would have been bothered by it. The actual show itself was pretty harmless and more centred on the kids having fun which they clearly did. This is cherry picked. It's one out of many drag events where kids were involved and there were no problems. It was also held in Texas a very religiously conservative state...

3. The library didn't hire a performer in that costume. They hired a carnival arts company called Mandinga Arts who advertise themselves saying “guaranteed fun for family audiences” They stopped the performance as soon as they realised the costume was inappropriate. So you can't blame the library for that one. In fact since that event Mandinga Arts have stated they have used the character at mixed audience events, but realized it was “undoubtedly inappropriate for a children’s event.” They have retired the costume. So the carnival arts company messed up hugely, were stopped performing by the library as soon as they started. Cherry picked again.

4. Apparently a group of naked cyclists appeared during a pride event. They weren't arrested because Seattle has no nudity laws and it's legal to be nude anywhere in the city. Take that one up with Seattle but if I'd have been there when I was younger I'd probably have been too busy laughing to be outraged. They weren't being sexual, just being naked. Inappropriate? Yes probably for a public place but Seattle's laws...

5. Meh so what? As long as they do a good job championing women's rights for the UN who actually cares?

6. LMAO are you really complaining about a few rainbows on police cars? You do realise it's intended to help forge trust between the LGBT community and the police? How can that even be a bad thing. Police cars in Scotland have Gaelic on them OMG GAELIC shock horror gasp.

7. Again so what. Beauty contests are an anachronism that should disappear anyway. You really are reaching hard for things to whine about aren't you?

8. See 7.

9. So what? As long as they deserved the award good for them.

10. We covered this in the thread you made. It needs the supervising bodies to catch up with the 2020s and ensure that there's a level playing field. Boxing is also an anachronism...

11. I'll let AP news deal with this one: Source

"CLAIM: A proposed California bill would allow school mental health professionals to remove minors from the custody of their parents or guardians who don’t consent to the child receiving gender-affirming surgeries.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The legislation, AB 665, would amend an existing law that allows minors 12 and older to receive mental health counseling or therapy without parental consent. Currently, the law applies only to youth covered by private health insurance. It contains no language that would allow school mental health professionals to remove children from the custody of their parents or guardians. The bill does not authorize any gender-affirming surgeries without parental consent.

THE FACTS: A social media post is misrepresenting a California bill that aims to expand access to mental health services on an outpatient basis for youth between the ages of 12 and 17. Opponents of the bill claim that, if passed, it would allow mental health professionals to remove a minor from their parents’ custody or “provide ‘gender affirming’ surgery to children without parental consent.”

“If the bill becomes law; children who wish to seek ‘gender affirming’ surgery who have parents that will not permit such mutilations, will be able to be removed from the custody of their parents,” reads the post on Instagram sharing the false claim."


12. I'll let AFP Fact Check deal with this one: Source

"Since Bill C-16, an amendment to the Canadian Human Rights Act, became a law in 2017, several online media have spread the idea that Canadians could be jailed or fined simply for using an incorrect gender pronoun. While the aim of the law is to add "gender identity and gender expression" to the list of illegal grounds for discrimination, Bill C-16 cannot force anyone to use a specific pronoun. No Canadian has been jailed or fined for using the wrong gender pronoun.

One article published online shortly after Bill C-16 was approved by the Senate on June 14, 2017, claimed that it was now illegal to use the wrong gender pronoun in Canada. The article continues to circulate on social media, and was shared more than 10,000 times through multiple Facebook posts as of June 22, 2018.

Bill C-16 is an amendment to the Canadian Human Rights Act and to the Criminal Code that includes "gender identity and gender expressions" in matters of discrimination. A word scan of the document shows no specific mention of gender pronouns in the bill."


13. You can't count. Or did the hate filled spittle you sprayed all over your monitor trick you into misnumbering?

14. You don't check your sources for credibility. This is called cherry picking lol
 
Let's look at those one at a time.

1. This is an area that needs to catch up with society. I can understand why a male officer would be asked to search a suspect that is not biologically female and had not transitioned. That makes sense. The same would go for suspects that are not biologically male and that have not transitioned being searched by female officers.

2. The drag show for children was a pretty harmless event. It was held in a bar apparently and the sign (a neon fixture, not a portable sign) is part of the bar's decor. I'd agree that it would probably have been sensible for the bar's owners or management to cover it up or even switch it off but they didn't and I doubt the kids would have been bothered by it. The actual show itself was pretty harmless and more centred on the kids having fun which they clearly did. This is cherry picked. It's one out of many drag events where kids were involved and there were no problems. It was also held in Texas a very religiously conservative state...

3. The library didn't hire a performer in that costume. They hired a carnival arts company called Mandinga Arts who advertise themselves saying “guaranteed fun for family audiences” They stopped the performance as soon as they realised the costume was inappropriate. So you can't blame the library for that one. In fact since that event Mandinga Arts have stated they have used the character at mixed audience events, but realized it was “undoubtedly inappropriate for a children’s event.” They have retired the costume. So the carnival arts company messed up hugely, were stopped performing by the library as soon as they started. Cherry picked again.

4. Apparently a group of naked cyclists appeared during a pride event. They weren't arrested because Seattle has no nudity laws and it's legal to be nude anywhere in the city. Take that one up with Seattle but if I'd have been there when I was younger I'd probably have been too busy laughing to be outraged. They weren't being sexual, just being naked. Inappropriate? Yes probably for a public place but Seattle's laws...

5. Meh so what? As long as they do a good job championing women's rights for the UN who actually cares?

6. LMAO are you really complaining about a few rainbows on police cars? You do realise it's intended to help forge trust between the LGBT community and the police? How can that even be a bad thing. Police cars in Scotland have Gaelic on them OMG GAELIC shock horror gasp.

7. Again so what. Beauty contests are an anachronism that should disappear anyway. You really are reaching hard for things to whine about aren't you?

8. See 7.

9. So what? As long as they deserved the award good for them.

10. We covered this in the thread you made. It needs the supervising bodies to catch up with the 2020s and ensure that there's a level playing field. Boxing is also an anachronism...

11. I'll let AP news deal with this one: Source

"CLAIM: A proposed California bill would allow school mental health professionals to remove minors from the custody of their parents or guardians who don’t consent to the child receiving gender-affirming surgeries.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The legislation, AB 665, would amend an existing law that allows minors 12 and older to receive mental health counseling or therapy without parental consent. Currently, the law applies only to youth covered by private health insurance. It contains no language that would allow school mental health professionals to remove children from the custody of their parents or guardians. The bill does not authorize any gender-affirming surgeries without parental consent.

THE FACTS: A social media post is misrepresenting a California bill that aims to expand access to mental health services on an outpatient basis for youth between the ages of 12 and 17. Opponents of the bill claim that, if passed, it would allow mental health professionals to remove a minor from their parents’ custody or “provide ‘gender affirming’ surgery to children without parental consent.”

“If the bill becomes law; children who wish to seek ‘gender affirming’ surgery who have parents that will not permit such mutilations, will be able to be removed from the custody of their parents,” reads the post on Instagram sharing the false claim."


12. I'll let AFP Fact Check deal with this one: Source

"Since Bill C-16, an amendment to the Canadian Human Rights Act, became a law in 2017, several online media have spread the idea that Canadians could be jailed or fined simply for using an incorrect gender pronoun. While the aim of the law is to add "gender identity and gender expression" to the list of illegal grounds for discrimination, Bill C-16 cannot force anyone to use a specific pronoun. No Canadian has been jailed or fined for using the wrong gender pronoun.

One article published online shortly after Bill C-16 was approved by the Senate on June 14, 2017, claimed that it was now illegal to use the wrong gender pronoun in Canada. The article continues to circulate on social media, and was shared more than 10,000 times through multiple Facebook posts as of June 22, 2018.

Bill C-16 is an amendment to the Canadian Human Rights Act and to the Criminal Code that includes "gender identity and gender expressions" in matters of discrimination. A word scan of the document shows no specific mention of gender pronouns in the bill."


13. You can't count. Or did the hate filled spittle you sprayed all over your monitor trick you into misnumbering?

14. You don't check your sources for credibility. This is called cherry picking lol
people look at headlines or quick tidbits on twitter without ever trying to do any research or follow up on stories and then create a whole story themselves about what happened. like a version of the telephone game
 
The people who used to be oppressed 'lgbt' have become the oppressors hence cancel culture
I'm a heterosexual, white Christian and I'm here to tell you, we are not oppressed.

Also, you guys started cancel culture. It started when yall boycotted the Dixie Chick's because they exercised freedom of speech, another concept you guys don't get but speak often about not having.

You guys cried about black athletes kneeling and using their free speech to bring awareness to police brutality. You guys became obsessed with Kaep, claiming he's un-American and told LeBron to shut up and dribble. Now all of the sudden, you guys are defending Aaron Rodgers because he was pulled from the Pat McAfee show for claiming Jimmy Kimmel was involved with Epstein's sex workers and promoting fact-free vaccine comments. It's 2024 and that dumbass is still ranting about Fauci.

Suddenly it's "He's being silenced!" You guys only want rights for yourselves and things you get on about the left, you want the Right to be exempt from. So let me tell you, hate speech and spouting false rhetoric that can be weaponized to cause death and violence, isn't covered under freedom of speech.

Your party caused bomb threats to be called into children's hospitals because Libs of TikTok (Zionist terrorist) claimed the hospitals conduct bottom surgeries for children. She's caused people to get gay and trans teaches to quot through death threats or get fired. A few days ago, a radicalized Right Winger had their mass shooting plot stopped. A man with 5k rounds was going to go on a killing spree because of Trump being removed from the ballot in some states. You people only know violence and deflect when being called out by bringing up the George Floyd riots which were done by a pissed off society sick of its racism and it came to a boiling point.
 
I'm a heterosexual, white Christian and I'm here to tell you, we are not oppressed.

Also, you guys started cancel culture. It started when yall boycotted the Dixie Chick's because they exercised freedom of speech, another concept you guys don't get but speak often about not having.

You guys cried about black athletes kneeling and using their free speech to bring awareness to police brutality. You guys became obsessed with Kaep, claiming he's un-American and told LeBron to shut up and dribble. Now all of the sudden, you guys are defending Aaron Rodgers because he was pulled from the Pat McAfee show for claiming Jimmy Kimmel was involved with Epstein's sex workers and promoting fact-free vaccine comments. It's 2024 and that dumbass is still ranting about Fauci.

Suddenly it's "He's being silenced!" You guys only want rights for yourselves and things you get on about the left, you want the Right to be exempt from. So let me tell you, hate speech and spouting false rhetoric that can be weaponized to cause death and violence, isn't covered under freedom of speech.

Your party caused bomb threats to be called into children's hospitals because Libs of TikTok (Zionist terrorist) claimed the hospitals conduct bottom surgeries for children. She's caused people to get gay and trans teaches to quot through death threats or get fired. A few days ago, a radicalized Right Winger had their mass shooting plot stopped. A man with 5k rounds was going to go on a killing spree because of Trump being removed from the ballot in some states. You people only know violence and deflect when being called out by bringing up the George Floyd riots which were done by a pissed off society sick of its racism and it came to a boiling point.

Simply being Christian gets you called extremist because the bible openly speaks against what the left are preaching about. You clearly haven't been paying attention.
 
Simply being Christian gets you called extremist because the bible openly speaks against what the left are preaching about. You clearly haven't been paying attention.
I'm not sure that's a fair statement to make. The link to extremism is based on people using religion to support their views when the religion is largely a belief in itself.

Eg. (I'm going to use a non-extreme point):
"You shouldn't use God's name in vain because: Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain" is fine for Christians but has no impact on non-Christians because they can say "God almighty, this place is insane lately" without breaking any religious codes/rules etc.

Saying "Gays should be executed because God said so", is where you start throwing religion and extremism into it. In your belief system that's fine but having a debate/discussion with anyone who doesn't believe (or who interprets the bible differently) is then opening you up to allegations of religious extremism.
 
Simply being Christian gets you called extremist because the bible openly speaks against what the left are preaching about. You clearly haven't been paying attention.
No, twisting the word of the Bible and taking everything literally while believing every story in it so you can demonize people is extremism.
 
Let's look at those one at a time.

1. This is an area that needs to catch up with society. I can understand why a male officer would be asked to search a suspect that is not biologically female and had not transitioned. That makes sense. The same would go for suspects that are not biologically male and that have not transitioned being searched by female officers.

2. The drag show for children was a pretty harmless event. It was held in a bar apparently and the sign (a neon fixture, not a portable sign) is part of the bar's decor. I'd agree that it would probably have been sensible for the bar's owners or management to cover it up or even switch it off but they didn't and I doubt the kids would have been bothered by it. The actual show itself was pretty harmless and more centred on the kids having fun which they clearly did. This is cherry picked. It's one out of many drag events where kids were involved and there were no problems. It was also held in Texas a very religiously conservative state...

3. The library didn't hire a performer in that costume. They hired a carnival arts company called Mandinga Arts who advertise themselves saying “guaranteed fun for family audiences” They stopped the performance as soon as they realised the costume was inappropriate. So you can't blame the library for that one. In fact since that event Mandinga Arts have stated they have used the character at mixed audience events, but realized it was “undoubtedly inappropriate for a children’s event.” They have retired the costume. So the carnival arts company messed up hugely, were stopped performing by the library as soon as they started. Cherry picked again.

4. Apparently a group of naked cyclists appeared during a pride event. They weren't arrested because Seattle has no nudity laws and it's legal to be nude anywhere in the city. Take that one up with Seattle but if I'd have been there when I was younger I'd probably have been too busy laughing to be outraged. They weren't being sexual, just being naked. Inappropriate? Yes probably for a public place but Seattle's laws...

5. Meh so what? As long as they do a good job championing women's rights for the UN who actually cares?

6. LMAO are you really complaining about a few rainbows on police cars? You do realise it's intended to help forge trust between the LGBT community and the police? How can that even be a bad thing. Police cars in Scotland have Gaelic on them OMG GAELIC shock horror gasp.

7. Again so what. Beauty contests are an anachronism that should disappear anyway. You really are reaching hard for things to whine about aren't you?

8. See 7.

9. So what? As long as they deserved the award good for them.

10. We covered this in the thread you made. It needs the supervising bodies to catch up with the 2020s and ensure that there's a level playing field. Boxing is also an anachronism...

11. I'll let AP news deal with this one: Source

"CLAIM: A proposed California bill would allow school mental health professionals to remove minors from the custody of their parents or guardians who don’t consent to the child receiving gender-affirming surgeries.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The legislation, AB 665, would amend an existing law that allows minors 12 and older to receive mental health counseling or therapy without parental consent. Currently, the law applies only to youth covered by private health insurance. It contains no language that would allow school mental health professionals to remove children from the custody of their parents or guardians. The bill does not authorize any gender-affirming surgeries without parental consent.

THE FACTS: A social media post is misrepresenting a California bill that aims to expand access to mental health services on an outpatient basis for youth between the ages of 12 and 17. Opponents of the bill claim that, if passed, it would allow mental health professionals to remove a minor from their parents’ custody or “provide ‘gender affirming’ surgery to children without parental consent.”

“If the bill becomes law; children who wish to seek ‘gender affirming’ surgery who have parents that will not permit such mutilations, will be able to be removed from the custody of their parents,” reads the post on Instagram sharing the false claim."


12. I'll let AFP Fact Check deal with this one: Source

"Since Bill C-16, an amendment to the Canadian Human Rights Act, became a law in 2017, several online media have spread the idea that Canadians could be jailed or fined simply for using an incorrect gender pronoun. While the aim of the law is to add "gender identity and gender expression" to the list of illegal grounds for discrimination, Bill C-16 cannot force anyone to use a specific pronoun. No Canadian has been jailed or fined for using the wrong gender pronoun.

One article published online shortly after Bill C-16 was approved by the Senate on June 14, 2017, claimed that it was now illegal to use the wrong gender pronoun in Canada. The article continues to circulate on social media, and was shared more than 10,000 times through multiple Facebook posts as of June 22, 2018.

Bill C-16 is an amendment to the Canadian Human Rights Act and to the Criminal Code that includes "gender identity and gender expressions" in matters of discrimination. A word scan of the document shows no specific mention of gender pronouns in the bill."


13. You can't count. Or did the hate filled spittle you sprayed all over your monitor trick you into misnumbering?

14. You don't check your sources for credibility. This is called cherry picking lol
1. You should learn to read my comments correctly I wasn't talking about how people in custody identify I was talking about male police officers who identify as women are now able to strip search women, By that I mean REAL women adult human females the ones with wombs and xx chromosomes. It used to be only female police officers who were allowed to strip search women in custody for their dignity and now its male police officers who IDENTIFY as women can do that. Do you understand? 2. It's not a 'pretty harmless event' it's sexualising children it's exposing them to something they don't need to be exposed to. The sign in pink letters which clearly says 'it's not gonna lick itself' was not covered up, were the people who organised it incapable of reading? of course not they knew exactly what they were doing and that's sexualising children. At another drag queen 'show' for children the kids were throwing fake dollar bills at the drag queens while they danced sexually provocatively in front of them.Why are kids not allowed in strip clubs? because it's a sexually charged environment it's for adults only and drag queen shows should also be for adults only, even some drag queens have spoken out against it and said children should not be there. 3. Yes it was an lgbt company who advertised as 'guaranteed for family audiances' then they have a 'rainbow d ildo butt monkey' a man in rainbow colours with his a ss exposed and a d ildo between his legs at a reading event for children yeah it's so 'inclusive' it's depravity and perversion being forced onto children under the guise of equality, inclusion, acceptance. I don't blame the library I blame mandiga arts. How do you you know they stopped the performance as soon as they realised the costume was inappropriate? and even IF they did children should not be exposed to that. 4.Really? so if it was straight people any other time naked on the streets in front of children the police would do nothing? It's not about you just because you have no problem with adults naked on the streets in front of children doesn't mean the children don't have a problem with it. 5. Women care because now we have 'trans women' I.e MEN taking positions of power for roles that were meant for women it's an insult to them. The obsession with equality and inclusion has usurped womens rights, the rights and feelings of trans people are now more important than the rights and feelings of women it's all about the former. 6. I don't know why you think it's funny, the police are supposed to be impartial, neutral. Imagine if a gay man and a straight man are having an argument/ fight and the police show up in a rainbow coloured police car it's not being neutral is it. All institutions have now been ideologically captured the education system, big tech companies, corporations. big pharma companies, media and now the police. .
 
And again you're completely wrong. Read the actual guidelines.

You're cherry picking the news you want to see to support your obvious transphobia. Check your sources. I did and all of yours were wrong. I've given my sources, all reputable I might add.

Some advice. Use paragraphs. Your angry spittle flecked wall of text posts are going to get a lot of TL😀R responses.

Also, buy shares in Bacofoil.
 
Let's look at those one at a time.

1. This is an area that needs to catch up with society. I can understand why a male officer would be asked to search a suspect that is not biologically female and had not transitioned. That makes sense. The same would go for suspects that are not biologically male and that have not transitioned being searched by female officers.

2. The drag show for children was a pretty harmless event. It was held in a bar apparently and the sign (a neon fixture, not a portable sign) is part of the bar's decor. I'd agree that it would probably have been sensible for the bar's owners or management to cover it up or even switch it off but they didn't and I doubt the kids would have been bothered by it. The actual show itself was pretty harmless and more centred on the kids having fun which they clearly did. This is cherry picked. It's one out of many drag events where kids were involved and there were no problems. It was also held in Texas a very religiously conservative state...

3. The library didn't hire a performer in that costume. They hired a carnival arts company called Mandinga Arts who advertise themselves saying “guaranteed fun for family audiences” They stopped the performance as soon as they realised the costume was inappropriate. So you can't blame the library for that one. In fact since that event Mandinga Arts have stated they have used the character at mixed audience events, but realized it was “undoubtedly inappropriate for a children’s event.” They have retired the costume. So the carnival arts company messed up hugely, were stopped performing by the library as soon as they started. Cherry picked again.

4. Apparently a group of naked cyclists appeared during a pride event. They weren't arrested because Seattle has no nudity laws and it's legal to be nude anywhere in the city. Take that one up with Seattle but if I'd have been there when I was younger I'd probably have been too busy laughing to be outraged. They weren't being sexual, just being naked. Inappropriate? Yes probably for a public place but Seattle's laws...

5. Meh so what? As long as they do a good job championing women's rights for the UN who actually cares?

6. LMAO are you really complaining about a few rainbows on police cars? You do realise it's intended to help forge trust between the LGBT community and the police? How can that even be a bad thing. Police cars in Scotland have Gaelic on them OMG GAELIC shock horror gasp.

7. Again so what. Beauty contests are an anachronism that should disappear anyway. You really are reaching hard for things to whine about aren't you?

8. See 7.

9. So what? As long as they deserved the award good for them.

10. We covered this in the thread you made. It needs the supervising bodies to catch up with the 2020s and ensure that there's a level playing field. Boxing is also an anachronism...

11. I'll let AP news deal with this one: Source

"CLAIM: A proposed California bill would allow school mental health professionals to remove minors from the custody of their parents or guardians who don’t consent to the child receiving gender-affirming surgeries.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The legislation, AB 665, would amend an existing law that allows minors 12 and older to receive mental health counseling or therapy without parental consent. Currently, the law applies only to youth covered by private health insurance. It contains no language that would allow school mental health professionals to remove children from the custody of their parents or guardians. The bill does not authorize any gender-affirming surgeries without parental consent.

THE FACTS: A social media post is misrepresenting a California bill that aims to expand access to mental health services on an outpatient basis for youth between the ages of 12 and 17. Opponents of the bill claim that, if passed, it would allow mental health professionals to remove a minor from their parents’ custody or “provide ‘gender affirming’ surgery to children without parental consent.”

“If the bill becomes law; children who wish to seek ‘gender affirming’ surgery who have parents that will not permit such mutilations, will be able to be removed from the custody of their parents,” reads the post on Instagram sharing the false claim."


12. I'll let AFP Fact Check deal with this one: Source

"Since Bill C-16, an amendment to the Canadian Human Rights Act, became a law in 2017, several online media have spread the idea that Canadians could be jailed or fined simply for using an incorrect gender pronoun. While the aim of the law is to add "gender identity and gender expression" to the list of illegal grounds for discrimination, Bill C-16 cannot force anyone to use a specific pronoun. No Canadian has been jailed or fined for using the wrong gender pronoun.

One article published online shortly after Bill C-16 was approved by the Senate on June 14, 2017, claimed that it was now illegal to use the wrong gender pronoun in Canada. The article continues to circulate on social media, and was shared more than 10,000 times through multiple Facebook posts as of June 22, 2018.

Bill C-16 is an amendment to the Canadian Human Rights Act and to the Criminal Code that includes "gender identity and gender expressions" in matters of discrimination. A word scan of the document shows no specific mention of gender pronouns in the bill."


13. You can't count. Or did the hate filled spittle you sprayed all over your monitor trick you into misnumbering?

14. You don't check your sources for credibility. This is called cherry picking lol
7.Men should not be winning female beauty contests that are for women it's an insult to women 8. See 7. 9. To reiterate men should not be winning awards that are for women. If it was white people winning awards that are for black people or if it was straight people winning awards that are for gay people you would be outraged 10.You did not cover this in the thread I made it took you a long time to even answer and when you finally did you basically just said I was 'promoting an agenda' 11. AP news lol 12. Tell that to the father arrested in canada for not using his daughters pronouns you're giving citations from 7 years ago laws change and are updated 13. 'Hate filled spittle' lol that's a good one you should learn what hate actually means it's an emotion, define hate in one word = emotion and you don't have a magical ability to determine how I'm feeling but I'm feeling imperturbable, did being brainwashed by gender ideology trick you into denying reality. Do you have blue or pink hair? You're alethophobic you have a fear of truth and you deny basic biological facts this is called insanity
 
he wasn't arrested for simply using the wrong pronouns. it was for disobeying a court order and contempt of court. he was barred from speaking about his child and the situation in interviews and publications. and he continued to give interviews where he publicly gave out his child's information and medical records. THAT is what he was arrested for. not pronouns.
 
he wasn't arrested for simply using the wrong pronouns. it was for disobeying a court order and contempt of court. he was barred from speaking about his child and the situation in interviews and publications. and he continued to give interviews where he publicly gave out his child's information and medical records. THAT is what he was arrested for. not pronouns.
In essence it was because he wouldn't use her pronouns, the court order was as a result of that
 
Feel free to comment on what I said with questions 1 - 13 if you want ^^
 
he wasn't arrested for simply using the wrong pronouns. it was for disobeying a court order and contempt of court. he was barred from speaking about his child and the situation in interviews and publications. and he continued to give interviews where he publicly gave out his child's information and medical records. THAT is what he was arrested for. not pronouns.
Yes but but but AGENDA...
 
7.Men should not be winning female beauty contests that are for women it's an insult to women 8. See 7. 9. To reiterate men should not be winning awards that are for women. If it was white people winning awards that are for black people or if it was straight people winning awards that are for gay people you would be outraged 10.You did not cover this in the thread I made it took you a long time to even answer and when you finally did you basically just said I was 'promoting an agenda' 11. AP news lol 12. Tell that to the father arrested in canada for not using his daughters pronouns you're giving citations from 7 years ago laws change and are updated 13. 'Hate filled spittle' lol that's a good one you should learn what hate actually means it's an emotion, define hate in one word = emotion and you don't have a magical ability to determine how I'm feeling but I'm feeling imperturbable, did being brainwashed by gender ideology trick you into denying reality. Do you have blue or pink hair? You're alethophobic you have a fear of truth and you deny basic biological facts this is called insanity
Oh really? I'm the one that fact checks statments against reliable sources and I'm frightened of the truth??? I must be a nervous wreck by now.

Let's face it. You like pushing extremist bigoted agendas either because you're an extremist bigot, or because you like to troll and are hoping to cause an argument. I could never decide which one the yeasted one was...
 
It is common practice now to ask new clients the gender they identify as and which pronouns they use.
I never knew there were so many different types of genders.
What I like now about my wife's native language , and it bugged me at first is they do not use pronouns. It turns out it is easier that way.
 
emileh you equate conveying facts and having a differing opinion with 'pushing an extremist agenda'. You equate truth with hate because you hate truth also it's not only me you accuse of being that guy bread you accused JosephTheMainMan of being him too, In your head do you think that two different people can be the same person or do you just accuse multiple people of being someone they are clearly not? Cue more 'agenda' and 'bigotry' comments...
 
emileh you equate conveying facts and having a differing opinion with 'pushing an extremist agenda'. You equate truth with hate because you hate truth also it's not only me you accuse of being that guy bread you accused JosephTheMainMan of being him too, In your head do you think that two different people can be the same person or do you just accuse multiple people of being someone they are clearly not? Cue more 'agenda' and 'bigotry' comments...
Josephtheweiner isn't bread. You certainly act like bread and use much the same style.

Other than that, you've just posted a lot of assumed nonsense. I like the truth and I always check facts. It's fairly obvious that you like any version of a story, factual or not, as long as it supports your world view and it's equally obvious that you don't fact check as my refutation of your ranty long post shows.
 
There was no refutation and you're just regurgitating the same nonsense. You say Joseph is not bread then why did you say in other posts that he is. When you are capable of having a rational discussion and hearing other points of view instead of just the one narrative you have been fed I will start to take you seriously. Enjoy your weekend 👋
 
There was no refutation and you're just regurgitating the same nonsense. You say Joseph is not bread then why did you say in other posts that he is. When you are capable of having a rational discussion and hearing other points of view instead of just the one narrative you have been fed I will start to take you seriously. Enjoy your weekend 👋
No refutation eh?

So that huge carefully fact checked repsonse I gave (quoted below) wasn't a blow by blow refutation of your poorly researched and clearly not fact checked claims? Interesting...

Let's look at those one at a time.

1. This is an area that needs to catch up with society. I can understand why a male officer would be asked to search a suspect that is not biologically female and had not transitioned. That makes sense. The same would go for suspects that are not biologically male and that have not transitioned being searched by female officers.

2. The drag show for children was a pretty harmless event. It was held in a bar apparently and the sign (a neon fixture, not a portable sign) is part of the bar's decor. I'd agree that it would probably have been sensible for the bar's owners or management to cover it up or even switch it off but they didn't and I doubt the kids would have been bothered by it. The actual show itself was pretty harmless and more centred on the kids having fun which they clearly did. This is cherry picked. It's one out of many drag events where kids were involved and there were no problems. It was also held in Texas a very religiously conservative state...

3. The library didn't hire a performer in that costume. They hired a carnival arts company called Mandinga Arts who advertise themselves saying “guaranteed fun for family audiences” They stopped the performance as soon as they realised the costume was inappropriate. So you can't blame the library for that one. In fact since that event Mandinga Arts have stated they have used the character at mixed audience events, but realized it was “undoubtedly inappropriate for a children’s event.” They have retired the costume. So the carnival arts company messed up hugely, were stopped performing by the library as soon as they started. Cherry picked again.

4. Apparently a group of naked cyclists appeared during a pride event. They weren't arrested because Seattle has no nudity laws and it's legal to be nude anywhere in the city. Take that one up with Seattle but if I'd have been there when I was younger I'd probably have been too busy laughing to be outraged. They weren't being sexual, just being naked. Inappropriate? Yes probably for a public place but Seattle's laws...

5. Meh so what? As long as they do a good job championing women's rights for the UN who actually cares?

6. LMAO are you really complaining about a few rainbows on police cars? You do realise it's intended to help forge trust between the LGBT community and the police? How can that even be a bad thing. Police cars in Scotland have Gaelic on them OMG GAELIC shock horror gasp.

7. Again so what. Beauty contests are an anachronism that should disappear anyway. You really are reaching hard for things to whine about aren't you?

8. See 7.

9. So what? As long as they deserved the award good for them.

10. We covered this in the thread you made. It needs the supervising bodies to catch up with the 2020s and ensure that there's a level playing field. Boxing is also an anachronism...

11. I'll let AP news deal with this one: Source

"CLAIM: A proposed California bill would allow school mental health professionals to remove minors from the custody of their parents or guardians who don’t consent to the child receiving gender-affirming surgeries.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The legislation, AB 665, would amend an existing law that allows minors 12 and older to receive mental health counseling or therapy without parental consent. Currently, the law applies only to youth covered by private health insurance. It contains no language that would allow school mental health professionals to remove children from the custody of their parents or guardians. The bill does not authorize any gender-affirming surgeries without parental consent.

THE FACTS: A social media post is misrepresenting a California bill that aims to expand access to mental health services on an outpatient basis for youth between the ages of 12 and 17. Opponents of the bill claim that, if passed, it would allow mental health professionals to remove a minor from their parents’ custody or “provide ‘gender affirming’ surgery to children without parental consent.”

“If the bill becomes law; children who wish to seek ‘gender affirming’ surgery who have parents that will not permit such mutilations, will be able to be removed from the custody of their parents,” reads the post on Instagram sharing the false claim."


12. I'll let AFP Fact Check deal with this one: Source

"Since Bill C-16, an amendment to the Canadian Human Rights Act, became a law in 2017, several online media have spread the idea that Canadians could be jailed or fined simply for using an incorrect gender pronoun. While the aim of the law is to add "gender identity and gender expression" to the list of illegal grounds for discrimination, Bill C-16 cannot force anyone to use a specific pronoun. No Canadian has been jailed or fined for using the wrong gender pronoun.

One article published online shortly after Bill C-16 was approved by the Senate on June 14, 2017, claimed that it was now illegal to use the wrong gender pronoun in Canada. The article continues to circulate on social media, and was shared more than 10,000 times through multiple Facebook posts as of June 22, 2018.

Bill C-16 is an amendment to the Canadian Human Rights Act and to the Criminal Code that includes "gender identity and gender expressions" in matters of discrimination. A word scan of the document shows no specific mention of gender pronouns in the bill."


13. You can't count. Or did the hate filled spittle you sprayed all over your monitor trick you into misnumbering?

14. You don't check your sources for credibility. This is called cherry picking lol

Nope, that looks like a carefully fact checked point by point refutation of your claims. Oh, complete with citations where they're needed.

Continually resorting to Trumpian tactics of repeating falsehoods isn't a good idea, just saying... Mind you, it's what the yeasted one would do.
 
I'm not sure that's a fair statement to make. The link to extremism is based on people using religion to support their views when the religion is largely a belief in itself.

Eg. (I'm going to use a non-extreme point):
"You shouldn't use God's name in vain because: Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain" is fine for Christians but has no impact on non-Christians because they can say "God almighty, this place is insane lately" without breaking any religious codes/rules etc.

Saying "Gays should be executed because God said so", is where you start throwing religion and extremism into it. In your belief system that's fine but having a debate/discussion with anyone who doesn't believe (or who interprets the bible differently) is then opening you up to allegations of religious extremism.

No one says that gays should be executed except for mostly Islamic people. I haven't seen Christians do that stuff and go around attacking people.

Christians believe that homosexuality shouldn't be approved or condoned as it is an abomination in the eyes of God - that isn't extremist that's just basic bible...
 
No one says that gays should be executed except for mostly Islamic people. I haven't seen Christians do that stuff and go around attacking people.

Christians believe that homosexuality shouldn't be approved or condoned as it is an abomination in the eyes of God - that isn't extremist that's just basic bible...
I think you missed the point I was making. The specifics were just examples to explain this:
I'm not sure that's a fair statement to make. The link to extremism is based on people using religion to support their views when the religion is largely a belief in itself.

While you’re on the subject of this though:
Christians believe that homosexuality shouldn't be approved or condoned as it is an abomination in the eyes of God - that isn't extremist that's just basic bible..
I’ll pass that on to my local vicar who I’ll probably bump into tomorrow. He flies the Pride flag outside his Church and I believe he’s a greater authority on Christian belief than your basic bible
 
No one says that gays should be executed except for mostly Islamic people. I haven't seen Christians do that stuff and go around attacking people.

Christians believe that homosexuality shouldn't be approved or condoned as it is an abomination in the eyes of God - that isn't extremist that's just basic bible...
Aye right.












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I think you missed the point I was making. The specifics were just examples to explain this:


While you’re on the subject of this though:

I’ll pass that on to my local vicar who I’ll probably bump into tomorrow. He flies the Pride flag outside his Church and I believe he’s a greater authority on Christian belief than your basic bible

Of course your favourite version of Christianity is the one that's been corrupted. No surprise there. Pass on my message to whoever you want.
 
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