PRIDE in sexuality?

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Everyone loves enjoying the fruits of their labor. Being proud of your work, and being succesful about achievements youve made can be associated with building confidence. It makes us want to feel good about ourselves. However, being prideful about one's sexuality can have negative consequences that far outweigh the benefits.

When someone is overtly proud of their sexuality, they will come across as arrogant or entitled. This will create a false sense of superiority that is off-putting to those around them. Pride in one's sexuality can lead to judgment/discrimination, harboring hatred towards those who do not fit into their labels. This leads to alienation that can deprive different perspectives that can open opportunities for growth and success of ideas. Having this type of pride will tell you that the other people dont deserve to be forgiven, or that you could never be in the wrong.

In contrast, being humble about one's sexuality allows for a more genuine and authentic connection with others. Expressing humility about anything, especially one's sexuality, is a virtue that promotes modesty, respect for others, and adherence to moral values. Humility encourages individuals to focus on communal values and ideals rather than emphasizing personal identity or desires. It puts others above yourself, just like GOD.

Thats why people who are normal dont flaunt their sexuality.

The pride that blinds is the thief of PEACE. It is the father of jealousy and the constant need to compare.
Pride without merit is the seed of insecurity and the wound to those that need healing.
 
I agree, sexuality is not an achievement, it shouldn't be celebrated nor should there be a "pride" month celebrating people for just "being who they are"
 
Unfortunately for many people their narcissism and demand for validation means they are incapable of keeping their sexuality private
 
Bread. said:
PRIDE belonging in sexuality
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so its basically a yes or no proposition? I would say no- and the best reason Ill quote the Late RT Honourable Pierre Trudeau, who has justice Minister said "The view we take is, there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation" but then

He would later say that the affairs of the bedroom also do not belong on the streets. < ---this is the part I offer on this debate and I agree with.

I do think some sort of remembrance is in order, as at the time homosexuality (and acts) was a crime in Canada, although I never understood why "pride" was the chosen terminology.
 
I laugh when gays say "they hate us for existing " the reason they exist is because of straight people. If it wasn't for straight people they wouldn't exist. They should thank us.
 
Bread. said:
Everyone loves enjoying the fruits of their labor. Being proud of your work, and being succesful about achievements youve made can be associated with building confidence. It makes us want to feel good about ourselves. However, being prideful about one's sexuality can have negative consequences that far outweigh the benefits.

When someone is overtly proud of their sexuality, they will come across as arrogant or entitled. This will create a false sense of superiority that is off-putting to those around them. Pride in one's sexuality can lead to judgment/discrimination, harboring hatred towards those who do not fit into their labels. This leads to alienation that can deprive different perspectives that can open opportunities for growth and success of ideas. Having this type of pride will tell you that the other people dont deserve to be forgiven, or that you could never be in the wrong.

In contrast, being humble about one's sexuality allows for a more genuine and authentic connection with others. Expressing humility about anything, especially one's sexuality, is a virtue that promotes modesty, respect for others, and adherence to moral values. Humility encourages individuals to focus on communal values and ideals rather than emphasizing personal identity or desires. It puts others above yourself, just like GOD.

Thats why people who are normal dont flaunt their sexuality.

The pride that blinds is the thief of PEACE. It is the father of jealousy and the constant need to compare.
Pride without merit is the seed of insecurity and the wound to those that need healing.
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Tall Man said:
Unfortunately for many people their narcissism and demand for validation means they are incapable of keeping their sexuality private
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I agree with both of you. All these couples that have pride in their children. It's fucking irritating the way they bang on about it all the time and the way they are incapable of keeping their kids hidden and therefore their sexuality private.

I'm like "You got laid and made a baby. Congrats and all that but Jeez, give it a rest at some point before your child reaches retirement age!" It's so annoying, for example, when they're all over Tesco flaunting their sexuality by having their babies in the prams and pushchais "Who cares that you got laid and made a baby!? Move your pride out of my way and let me get to the loo roll, and btw preggo lady over there, hide your damn bump and ban those T-Shirts that say "baby on board".....nobody thinks you should be proud of your sexuality honey!"

H.R. PufnStuf said:
I never understood why "pride" was the chosen terminology.
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It apparently caught on after the Stonewall riots and no explanation has ever been given but the suggestion is that it derived from everyone should be proud of who they are.

H.R. PufnStuf said:
I would say no- and the best reason Ill quote the Late RT Honourable Pierre Trudeau, who has justice Minister said "The view we take is, there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation"
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Given the context in which that quote was originally said, using it in the latest of the stale one's self-pleasure threads is ironic

H.R. PufnStuf said:
He would later say that the affairs of the bedroom also do not belong on the streets. < ---this is the part I offer on this debate and I agree with.
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As children are the products of "affairs of the bedroom" and they therefore "do not belong on the streets", when is it proposed that they should be let out of the house?
 
rapinoes smirking revenge said:
how is having some kind of a pride day in any way "the state being in the bedroom" ?
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Precisely which is another reason why the quote is ironic in this thread. It was said when Trudeau was advancing a Bill to decriminalize homosexuality and abortion, amongst other huge changes. The full quote is "Take this thing on homosexuality. The view we take is, there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation. What's done in private between adults doesn't concern the Criminal Code"
 
Inkandtatts said:
Precisely which is another reason why the quote is ironic in this thread. It was said when Trudeau was advancing a Bill to decriminalize homosexuality and abortion, amongst other huge changes. The full quote is "Take this thing on homosexuality. The view we take is, there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation. What's done in private between adults doesn't concern the Criminal Code"
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can't imagine why only a snippet of the quote was used. :rolleyes:
 
Inkandtatts said:
Precisely which is another reason why the quote is ironic in this thread. It was said when Trudeau was advancing a Bill to decriminalize homosexuality and abortion, amongst other huge changes. The full quote is "Take this thing on homosexuality. The view we take is, there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation. What's done in private between adults doesn't concern the Criminal Code"
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Thank you for the Stonewall reference ill look that up.

The quote I used, the first part was offered to be supportive of gay rights and was so well known to Canadians who lived through the times first hand so I saw no need to include the full quote but ty.

The latter, "that the affairs of the bedroom didn,t belong in the streets" may be after the HoC if memory serves - that part I agree with in terms of the "debate" primarily that pride- in the form of pride parades Ive seen, were quite lewd expressions of sexuality and bordering on criminal - for that reason I said "no" re debate question. (Same could be said for any marti gras type lewdness)

Im sidestepping the fact Canadian governments have moved beyond preventing discrimination- to advocacy regarding "pride" <---- a specific example of the state meddling in the affairs of the bedroom
 
is the canadian government forcing people to have gay sex?
and the question is is there a reason to have pride in your sexuality

so you answer no because the government should stay out of the bedroom. doesn't make sense no matter how you try twisting and jamming the peg in the space.
 
H.R. PufnStuf said:
primarily that pride- in the form of pride parades Ive seen, were quite lewd expressions of sexuality and bordering on criminal - for that reason I said "no" re debate question. (Same could be said for any marti gras type lewdness)
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That’s a fair point. I’ve been to pride parades and experienced similar but pride parades aren’t what the “debate” is about. The stale OP’s whole premise is to get across its homophobic views but in doing so it is simply advancing the logical (but completely stupid) point that all kids must be locked away since parents can’t be proud of their sexuality.

Tall Man understood exactly what the OP was up to:
Tall Man said:
I agree, sexuality is not an achievement, it shouldn't be celebrated nor should there be a "pride" month celebrating people for just "being who they are"
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H.R. PufnStuf said:
Im sidestepping the fact Canadian governments have moved beyond preventing discrimination- to advocacy regarding "pride" <---- a specific example of the state meddling in the affairs of the bedroom
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What are they doing that meddles in bedroom affairs?
 
That’s not precisely fair. I don’t think there should be a pride month. Because of the reason HR gave which you agreed to @HandbagThief. It’s not about pride anymore it is just a literal pornfest. Yet the idea for pride is always relayed upon over and over when criticised.

It’s a tough one because as always with these topics/debates there’s never a happy medium.
 
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