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In that case then you should also tell people that come in here spew hate, to stop calling people transphobes and bigots when they arent.

Calling someone "it" is dehumanizing because it refers to an object or something non sentient. I dont think anyone has said that here.

I dont think "pronouns" should be the topic of my thread on womens sports either, so i dont know why people keep crying about it.
The entire point of your original post was to gaslight and spread your transphobic worldview. Nothing more nothing less. You weren’t looking to have a serious debate. I’ve seen you make transphobic statements in other threads as well. Calling that out isn’t hate speech. That’s calling it like it is.
 
""Whether trans are in fact whatever gender they say is a debatable topic"? <---just a brief summary of OP not offered as an opinion.

Gender is a complicated topic. Most dictionary's list biological sex as one of the means for classification of gender. That's what I meant. It's simply a summary relating to what the OP was arguing and i'm not going to become part of the debate.
It looks to me as though you are backpedaling. The debate of this thread is wether or not cis and trans women can compete on par in sports. It is not whether a trans person's gender is a debatable topic. And if you honestly believe that's what the topic of this thread is and are claiming that is what OP's post was about, then you should have shut it down for transphobia. So which is it? Are you making transphobic comments by saying a trans person's gender is debatable? Or are you allowing a transphobic thread to continue where you believe a debate is taking place surrounding a trans person's gender?
 
The entire point of your original post was to gaslight and spread your transphobic worldview. Nothing more nothing less. You weren’t looking to have a serious debate. I’ve seen you make transphobic statements in other threads as well. Calling that out isn’t hate speech. That’s calling it like it is.
And yet i have been the only person in here making arguments with science journals and facts not bigotry
 
And yet i have been the only person in here making arguments with science journals and facts not bigotry
Cherry picked debunked science isn’t really science. Like when the quacks were telling people to take ivermectin for COVID a few years ago. That wasn’t real science either. Just sayin, Daddy 😂
 
Cherry picked debunked science isn’t really science. Like when the quacks were telling people to take ivermectin for COVID a few years ago. That wasn’t real science either. Just sayin, Daddy 😂

is it rly debunked though if it's supported by the LIBERAL government??? debunked by who, the doctor that just tells u wat u want to hear, or actual scientists...? if it's debunked, show us, i feel like u just keep avoiding the fact bc u know that youre wrong & that'll crack the lie u been living this whole time wide open

like IDK, wat happens when u get prostate cancer??? inb4 bigot transphobe...
srsly, im genuinely asking & not to be funny either... wat happens if u do??? bc only men has prostates & only can get prostate cancer 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
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It looks to me as though you are backpedaling. The debate of this thread is wether or not cis and trans women can compete on par in sports. It is not whether a trans person's gender is a debatable topic. And if you honestly believe that's what the topic of this thread is and are claiming that is what OP's post was about, then you should have shut it down for transphobia. So which is it? Are you making transphobic comments by saying a trans person's gender is debatable? Or are you allowing a transphobic thread to continue where you believe a debate is taking place surrounding a trans person's gender?
Its only continuing because ms.erica feels like the world revolves around her and wants to make this thread about her. She has made 1 legitimate argument in the 5 pages of this thread. Evertyhing else she has said is about namecalling like a child then playing the victim.

This is what a hyprocrite bigot looks like:

When shes namecalling
Why transphobia and bigotry is allowed to be spread on this platform is beyond me.
Well you’re definitely using offensive transphobic and bigoted language there. And dead naming.
So keep being the closed minded bigot that you are.
Closed minded transphobic bigots like you aren’t welcome in my life.
I wouldn’t expect an ignorant evolutionary throwback like you to understand 😂
I will say with 💯 % certainty that yes, you are a bigot. And yes you are a transphobe. Show me on the doll where I hurt you.
A bigot. Transphobic. That’s exactly what you are.
You get called out and wanna claim victimhood. Gimme a break
Calling that out isn’t hate speech. That’s calling it like it is.

When people are namecalling her
Unlike you I don’t judge people without knowing them.
I’m gonna assume that you wanna be respected as a human being? That’s all I ask
Be a human being
But just think about it. Would you wanna be spoken to the way you’ve spoken to me? With such disregard?
I don’t have hate in my heart.


Did you happen to notice how no one attacked the other trans person @Simply Karina ? Where is the transphobia then? Nowhere because It doesnt exist. Calling people names then crying when they respond to you is not transphobia.
 
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Its only continuing because ms.erica feels like the world revolves around her and wants to make this thread about her. She has made 1 legitimate argument in the 5 pages of this thread. Evertyhing else she has said is about namecalling like a child then playing the victim.

This is what a hyprocrite bigot looks like:

When shes namecalling








When people are namecalling her








Did you happen to notice how no one attacked the other trans person @Simply Karina ? Where is the transphobia then? Nowhere because It doesnt exist. Calling people names then crying when they respond to you is not transphobia.
Looks like you lots time on your hands. I might even say triggered if you took all that time to go through the entire thread to quote posts of me calling people who dead name me, call me delusional, living a lie, anti trans crap exactly what that makes them. A bigot, and a transphobe. 🤷‍♀️ Now I know the sound of that is unpalatable to you and I make no apologies for it. If someone called you a racial slur would you say they’re racist?

It’s laughable you use the word hypocrite so much. There’s a term for that. It’s called projection. Your crowd are the biggest hypocrites. You wanna use the most inflammatory language to spew your bigoted crap, then cry about it when someone stands up to you and calls you out for it. Guess what dude, the world doesn’t revolve around you either like you accused me of. If you and your ilk spew hateful crap, don’t be surprised or get pissy when you get the pushback from the other side. On that note, piss off
 
is it rly debunked though if it's supported by the LIBERAL government??? debunked by who, the doctor that just tells u wat u want to hear, or actual scientists...? if it's debunked, show us, i feel like u just keep avoiding the fact bc u know that youre wrong & that'll crack the lie u been living this whole time wide open

like IDK, wat happens when u get prostate cancer??? inb4 bigot transphobe...
srsly, im genuinely asking & not to be funny either... wat happens if u do??? bc only men has prostates & only can get prostate cancer 🤷🏼‍♀️
I’m not gonna waste any time or energy explaining to a TERF like you who has a preconceived opinion about something you know nothing about. Suffice it to say that I know a ton more on the topic than any of you do. And like I said to Elroy Jetson over there, piss off.
 
I’m not gonna waste any time or energy explaining to a TERF like you who has a preconceived opinion about something you know nothing about. Suffice it to say that I know a ton more on the topic than any of you do. And like I said to Elroy Jetson over there, piss off.

AKA: *i can't debunk the science, bc i don't want to face the reality that my life is a lie* 👌🏼
 
I’m not gonna waste any time or energy explaining to a TERF like you who has a preconceived opinion about something you know nothing about. Suffice it to say that I know a ton more on the topic than any of you do. And like I said to Elroy Jetson over there, piss off.

Can we get @DarthErica removed from this thread UMS? @Samwise she is clearly not interested in debating and is violating rules 1 and 3 of this forum.

1 - Personal insults of other members will not be tolerated.
If you wish for other people to respect your points of view, then you must also respect theirs. Remember, we debate issues here, not individuals.

3 - Stick to the subject.
This is not a chat forum, and threads are periodically pruned to eliminate "spam." If your post does not contribute to the topic in any way, it will be deleted.

She refuses to explain with logic or evidence why her ideas are correct but is adamant on criticizing people.
When confronted with counterarguments she simply states "i dont have to explain" or "im not going to explain" to you.
She then proceeds to and spam the thread with rhetoric about "pronouns" and "dehumanisation".
My thread is about transgender women competing in womens sports not about how erica feels.
 
The whole of page 2. Eric livid because someone from GLB Community won’t acknowledge his choices.
I scrolled through page two and do not see what you're referring to, but I'm admittedly not looking very hard.

I will say this though, acknowledging someone by their preferred name and pronouns comes with a basic level of respect and decency. If you introduced yourself as Steve (he/him) and I decided to call you Kyle (she/her), that would be disrespectful, no? You're going out of your way to be rude and it's not necessary. I know there are some ugly words being exchanged on both sides of this interaction and I'm not asking you to agree with her side of the debate, but basic levels of respect and decency go a long way in having a constructive dialogue.
 
I scrolled through page two and do not see what you're referring to, but I'm admittedly not looking very hard.

I will say this though, acknowledging someone by their preferred name and pronouns comes with a basic level of respect and decency. If you introduced yourself as Steve (he/him) and I decided to call you Kyle (she/her), that would be disrespectful, no? You're going out of your way to be rude and it's not necessary. I know there are some ugly words being exchanged on both sides of this interaction and I'm not asking you to agree with her side of the debate, but basic levels of respect and decency go a long way in having a constructive dialogue.

im sry but someone is not obligated to be respected just bc they exist, theyre just not
wat ever happened to respect being earned???

why should i has to change how i feel about something, for them??? i dont agree with it, i dont think its normal, & THAT IS OKIE, so why do i has to use their preferred pronouns???
 
I scrolled through page two and do not see what you're referring to, but I'm admittedly not looking very hard.

I will say this though, acknowledging someone by their preferred name and pronouns comes with a basic level of respect and decency. If you introduced yourself as Steve (he/him) and I decided to call you Kyle (she/her), that would be disrespectful, no? You're going out of your way to be rude and it's not necessary. I know there are some ugly words being exchanged on both sides of this interaction and I'm not asking you to agree with her side of the debate, but basic levels of respect and decency go a long way in having a constructive dialogue.
I agree but it’s hard to have a dialogue with people who are intolerant and unaccpting of others. They think that being called what they in some cases openly admit to being is hateful. It’s impossible to have a dialogue with people who have a preconceived opinion based on their own fears. I’m not change anyone’s mind. And you’re right, what it comes down to is just a basic level of respect. I’ll respect everyone unless they give me a reason not too. The original poster has made transphobic remarks to me in another since deleted thread, so I know the original post wasn’t trying to have a healthy debate. It’s just to gaslight.
 
And just for the record, the first thing I even said here was to question why bigotry and transphobic comments are allowed on the forums. It wasn’t until these trolls Luka and baby what’s her name started to deadname me and call me delusional etc etc that I called them bigots and transphobic.
 
And just for the record, the first thing I even said here was to question why bigotry and transphobic comments are allowed on the forums. It wasn’t until these trolls Luka and baby what’s her name started to deadname me and call me delusional etc etc that I called them bigots and transphobic.

is that the version u rly want to go with???

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bc i didn't say anything to u, i just referenced how u basically came into a thread i made that had nothing to do with u or transexuals & randomly attacked me... i referenced u in order to make a point about how much of a hypocrite u & the rest of the ppl like u truly are... still think im following u around??? bc u literally followed me into a thread that u has no business interjecting ur bullsh!t into lmao...

which is funny that u use examples of *slurs* like how i called u a sissy, but its ironic bc that was done in MY thread where U attacked ME randomly & grouped me in with loki's heinous behavior & tried saying wat i said was discriminatory u dont even know wat discrimination rly is... calling u delusional & saying that ill never agree with or accept u or anyone else like u as a woman is hardly derogatory, u just perceive it that way bc i wont lick ur ass like everyone else in clown world does...

it is literally defined as mental illness, which is a delusional, wat else in the world would u call something like gender dysmorphia if not mental illness or delusion??? bc u look in a mirror & see a woman when ur a man, its no different than a petite woman looking at herself in the mirror & perceiving herself as fat... why is BODY DYSMORPHIA a mental illness, but not gender dysmorphia??? oh bc u want to believe that the way u live is normal & natural when its the total complete opposite LOL

u just prove to me more & more just how crazy u actually are... remember i wasn't even disrespectful towards u in that other thread, the only other thread besides this one & mine that i has interacted with u in... even in this thread, i didnt say anything to u until u responded to my reference, u didnt has to respond u could has just ignored it like someone that isnt unhinged...

but ur a psychopath that wants to make e v e r y t h i n g about u & ur little fantasy of being a woman so clearlys thats impossible for u to do...

#DropTheTQIA+
 
One would think that the Trans community, would just get with it, and start their own Trans leagues.

Everyone has a league of their own; even the handicap have their own special Olympics. There is literally no good reason for the Trans community to not start their own league in any sport.
 
im sry but someone is not obligated to be respected just bc they exist, theyre just not
wat ever happened to respect being earned???

why should i has to change how i feel about something, for them??? i dont agree with it, i dont think its normal, & THAT IS OKIE, so why do i has to use their preferred pronouns???
No where in my post did I suggest you should change how you feel about something. I understand that you don't agree. But to answer your question, using someone's preferred pronouns is the respectful and decent thing to do. You should call her by her preferred pronouns for the same reason I should refer to you by yours. If I called you "he" and you identified as "she," how would that feel when I spoke to you? At minimum it would likely feel weird or wrong if its not a term you identify with. At the other end of the spectrum, it might feel insulting or derogatory if you thought someone was doing it to harass or offend you. So even when speaking to someone you disagree with, it's best for both sides of this argument to treat each other with at least basic decency if you have any intention beyond being intentionally disrespectful.
 
Can we get @DarthErica removed from this thread UMS? @Samwise

Hi, just a thought. Instead of having people removed maybe you could reboot the thread and start over. Clean slate. Try and have a real debate and if people attack others, use hate speech or slurs, or otherwise violate the debate rules, then ask the staff to take action.

This is a very divisive topic that both sides feel very strongly about. Unless you start over, I just see all the negativity going back and forth ad nauseam.
 
No where in my post did I suggest you should change how you feel about something. I understand that you don't agree. But to answer your question, using someone's preferred pronouns is the respectful and decent thing to do. You should call her by her preferred pronouns for the same reason I should refer to you by yours. If I called you "he" and you identified as "she," how would that feel when I spoke to you? At minimum it would likely feel weird or wrong if its not a term you identify with. At the other end of the spectrum, it might feel insulting or derogatory if you thought someone was doing it to harass or offend you. So even when speaking to someone you disagree with, it's best for both sides of this argument to treat each other with at least basic decency if you have any intention beyond being intentionally disrespectful.

i would not care & just ignore u bc i'm visibly & obviously an actual woman lmao

it bothers them so much bc it conflicts with their delusions of being a woman, & no matter how much they try will never actually pass as one
 
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