Are people born gay or are they made

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Bread. said:
Is this the title of this thread what is your opinion on Christianity?
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You literally brought up Christianity in your original argument claiming creation to be an axiom and the existence of a Christian God as evidence that homosexuality is an immoral choice from the (unfalsifiable) "axiomatic existence."

You can expect a theological debate WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP THEOLOGY.

Why are you like this?
 
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He’s making these kinds of threads at the expense of others, with the sole intention of eventually having them derailed, but when someone pokes fun at his personal background and beliefs, he’s up in arms and offended. It’s called selective indignation.

It’s funny how this guy keeps spouting bigoted drivel, but I bet you he’d be up in arms if someone would defend the conclusions of ‘The Bell Curve Study’, and rightly so, because it portrays Bread’s ethnic background in a far from favourable way.

‘The Bell Curve study’ is one of the most disingenuous, disgusting and racist studies ever to be published in recent years and was the published by Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray in 1994. a study of the supposed intellectual differences between ethnic and racial groups, which can be considered the flimsiest kind of pseudo-science designed to promote a racist political agenda.

Bread, if you know what it’s like being part of a targeted group, then why are you being a complete and utter douchebag towards other targeted groups on here?
 
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Bread. said:
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Nice try Satan, you have always had a wicked tongue full of lies. The satanic temple does not endorse you.
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I didn't say The Satanic Temple "endorsed" Satan. Based on what you said to me, I replied that Satan loves you and accepts your homosexual ways. The Satanic Temple however is also a fabulous ally to the LGBTQIA+ community, with the co-founder quoted saying, "[W]e will fight... to the death to ensure that there are equal rights for the gay community," on behalf of TST. #HailSatan.
 
I'm beautiful in my way 'cause God makes no mistakes
I'm on the right track, baby, I was born this way
Don't hide yourself in regret, just love yourself, and you're set
I'm on the right track, baby, I was born this way
Give yourself prudence and love your friends
Subway kid, rejoice your truth
In the religion of the insecure, I must be myself, respect my youth
A different lover is not a sin,
 
LostCause. said:
I didn't say The Satanic Temple "endorsed" Satan. Based on what you said to me, I replied that Satan loves you and accepts your homosexual ways. The Satanic Temple however is also a fabulous ally to the LGBTQIA+ community, with the co-founder quoted saying, "[W]e will fight... to the death to ensure that there are equal rights for the gay community," on behalf of TST. #HailSatan.
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You said Satan loves gays then posted a picture of the satanic temple. You associated the satanic temple with Satan by posting a pic of its logo.

What you posted is a lie because satanic temple does not believe in Satan, not because they both glorify homosexuality
 
Soundz123 said:
No one chooses to be gay they behave based on what their brain responds to, like everything else in life. Same thing with people who believe in "god" or don't believe. It's a brain response and will never be anything else. You can't think outside of your brain and can't make decisions, think, etc. without using it. All factors included, someone could respond to a "gay" attraction before a "heterosexual" attraction by the time sexuality matters and exists in their lifetime, never having a "straight" experience. No one starts off as any sexuality because it's not important to the human body until later in life.

With all that being said, I'm not defending any kind of person regardless of "identity" or sexuality and I still have plenty of reasons to dislike them.
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So what you're saying is. Biology doesn't make people gay. That the brain responds to gay stimuli do. Sounds like a choice.
 
I have a genuine question for you @Bread.. I understand that you view homosexuality as a sin and believe it is not natural. What I don't understand is why you care. Are you trying to save their souls from eternal damnation? Or what is the end game of dedicating so much time and attention to something you disagree with so staunchly? What are you trying to achieve?
 
It's the Christian metaphysics of the death cult. If there's a soul to save from eternal damnation for an afterlife of living the pleasures you put off, rejecting the material Immediacy of the body for transcendence, and you care about people it's seemingly more compassionate to proselytize the "inevitable Eschatology." The problem is moral sentiments are grounded in literal translation from a bronze age book that has been retranslated and reinterpreted for millenia with scriptures omitted and changed by religious authorities, but because there's a belief about the books divine authority no Christian leaves it at "it's a book I like."

Literally thumping people over the head with FAN FIC as a moral and "historical" authority.
 
LostCause. said:
I have a genuine question for you @Bread.. I understand that you view homosexuality as a sin and believe it is not natural. What I don't understand is why you care. Are you trying to save their souls from eternal damnation? Or what is the end game of dedicating so much time and attention to something you disagree with so staunchly? What are you trying to achieve?
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Can we please have you as world leader
 
LostCause. said:
I have a genuine question for you @Bread.. I understand that you view homosexuality as a sin and believe it is not natural. What I don't understand is why you care. Are you trying to save their souls from eternal damnation? Or what is the end game of dedicating so much time and attention to something you disagree with so staunchly? What are you trying to achieve?
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Bored
 
Bread if you want credibility for your argument, answer LostCause.
I already said you were getting berated for posing the argument; her question may not be relevant to your initial post, it helps others see more into your insight.
 
Luka said:
Bread if you want credibility for your argument, answer LostCause.
I already said you were getting berated for posing the argument; her question may not be relevant to your initial post, it helps others see more into your insight.
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I answered.

I don't care what happens behind "closed doors".
That doesn't mean I have to accept other people's beliefs. You say to any LGBT person something that goes against their beliefs and you are labeled a homophobe.
 
LostCause. said:
I have a genuine question for you @Bread.. I understand that you view homosexuality as a sin and believe it is not natural. What I don't understand is why you care. Are you trying to save their souls from eternal damnation? Or what is the end game of dedicating so much time and attention to something you disagree with so staunchly? What are you trying to achieve?
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He’s a garden variety troll who craves attention. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
Bread. said:
So are you born gay
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did you actually read my post? i said no because the body isn’t inherently attuned towards sexuality as sexuality is not necessary for survival at infancy and so on. but i also claimed it isn’t a choice either because when sexuality starts to affect the body(puberty) it’s based on brain chemistry.
 
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