Gender Affirming Care is a lie.

[DarthErica]

now youre just trying to insult my intelligence, so let's re-cap... bc clearly you have difficulties with reading even though you say you don't... l0l

1. you say it's fine that i dont' agree with or acknowledge that youre a woman, then call me a bigot & transphobic for doing exactly that... you're a bigoted hypocrite

2. you assume just because i'm a lesbian that i have to support your insanity, & that i'm transphobic for not doing so & that i automatically have to just because of my sexuality.... you're a bigoted hypocrite

3. you demand that everyone respect your choice, & accept trans-people while calling it hate speech when they don't, saying inflammatory things to them for having a different opinion while saying they're the ones really being inflammatory... saying you're just expressing yourself, while demanding the thread be closed.... you're a bigoted hypocrite

4. you're shocked that someone of my sexuality wouldn't be more supportive of trans people, completely ignoring the fact that there are many other gay people that feel the exact same way about trans-people as i do simply because that doesn't fit the narrative that the lgb community is a united front against wat you call prejudice even when i didn't say anything prejudice towards you other than not recognizing you as a woman which you're apparently fine with... you're bigoted hypocrite

IDK seems like youre the one projecting your stupidity onto me, saying that i don't know wat the definition of words are thinking i'm only calling you a hypocrite because you have a different opinion than i do... fucckin' big time LOL there...

no, i'm calling you a hypocrite because you're accusing others & myself of something while doing exactly what you're accusing them of... & if THIS is the impression you're getting, you either haven't read wat i been saying, or youre too stupid to understand either way i see striaght through ur bull$hit 🤪🤪🤪

i'm not surprised by u, after all i'm discussing a subject of mental illness with a mentally ill person who isn't aware that theyre mentally ill

i'm done w/ you, Erica

You still clearly have yet to actually understand anything I’ve actually said. Or to comprehend anything. Should I write in crayon for you? Will that reach your level of education? And now you’re equating transgender with being mentally ill. Your words not mine. You know I have read more than once that studies show that people that think like you and view the world and other people the way you do are actually less intelligent. Never had proof it was true until now. I mean how many times have I told you the exact same thing, yet you keep drawing your own conclusion. I’m basically telling you 2+2=4 and you keep saying it’s 5. It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, it’s impossible to win one with stupid one. You’re just pissed I called you out for what you already admitted more than once what you are. Get lost loser. Go find your sex toys. That’s the only way you’ll have any company tonight.

Ps. The reason it took me awhile to respond so because I was talking to my FRIENDS here. You know, those things you don’t have. Now if you’ll excuse me they’re waiting for me. So piss off. Go enjoy your hateful life and the next time you’re discriminated against because of who you are I hope you remember me.

 

[Deleted member 292068]

Bullying may be part of the equation but there is certainly more to it, because even today in the most socially accepting period in all of history, the suicide rate among gays is higher than it is for straight people

The percentage of trans who regret transitioning is below 1%. Why even care what they choose to do with their body? What happened to people just minding their own business? None of people's personal choices effect me, but I do have a problem when people's actions affect others.

 

[saltandvinegarchips]

The percentage of trans who regret transitioning is below 1%. Why even care what they choose to do with their body? What happened to people just minding their own business? None of people's personal choices effect me, but I do have a problem when people's actions affect others.

Because they're pushing it on children

 

[DarthErica]

The percentage of trans who regret transitioning is below 1%. Why even care what they choose to do with their body? What happened to people just minding their own business? None of people's personal choices effect me, but I do have a problem when people's actions affect others.

Yep. I’m happy with who I am. When I began my journey it was scary but now I couldn’t be happier. I’ll never let closed minded people in the world derail my happiness. It’s nice to see people who are open minded and forward thinking speaking out and up for others who are marginalized. So thank you 🙏

 

[Deleted member 292068]

Yep. I’m happy with who I am. When I began my journey it was scary but now I couldn’t be happier. I’ll never let closed minded people in the world derail my happiness. It’s nice to see people who are open minded and forward thinking speaking out and up for others who are marginalized. So thank you 🙏

I can say I somewhat understand what you and others like yourself, along with gay people have gone through with the stigma and gas lighting from ignorant people. It took me into my late 20s to finally admit I have type 2 bi polar/mood disorder and openly admit it. My whole life bi polar is stereotyped as being insane, crazy, compared to killers like the Joker. You know how many times I'd hear "my ex was so bi polar". But times have changed and honestly, this is me and I'm not ashamed just like how you know yourself better than anyone in this thread and are happy. That's all that matters.

 

[Rant]

Boba and Darth,
I’m sorry if you posted your take on this before, but I’m not going to go digging for it
I’d like to hear your takes on these questions

Do you mind telling me your stance on children seeking gender reassignment?

What age you think would be appropriate to seek reassignment?

What requirements that should be met before you move on with surgery?

 

[DontCostYaNuffin]

Because they're pushing it on children

You sound like one of those whacky conservatives and evangelical nutjobs Frank Zappa fought against in the 1980s, when he fought against the likes of ‘The Parents Music Resource Center’ and their idea of censoring “explicit lyrical content”.

 

[Deleted member 292068]

Boba and Darth,
I’m sorry if you posted your take on this before, but I’m not going to go digging for it
I’d like to hear your takes on these questions

Do you mind telling me your stance on children seeking gender reassignment?

What age you think would be appropriate to seek reassignment?

What requirements that should be met before you move on with surgery?

I think that's a question that should be asked the parent and the child. If I were in the situation, I'd fully support my child but being that I don't have a child, I don't feel it's my place to tell someone how to raise their child unless it involves them abusing their kid, which I'd then have to report them to the authorities over.

I know what it's like to be told your feelings as a child are invalid, just your imagination or just a phase. I grew up with kids who were in the closet and didn't come out until they were in their 20s.

 

[Deleted member 292068]

You sound like one of those whacky conservatives and evangelical nutjobs Frank Zappa fought against in the 1980s, when he fought against the likes of ‘The Parents Music Resource Center’ and their idea of censoring “explicit lyrical content”.

There isn't one case of parents forcing their kids to be trans and it's as dumb and illogical as the argument "being gay is a choice". Why would any parent try to force their kids into confusion and a childhood of being bullied and beaten up? A parent isn't going to be like "ever since the gender reveal party, I've been waiting for this. I wanted a boy, so Kendra, you will now start living your life as Ken. Tomorrow we're going to the court house to change your name, then we'll swing by Macy's to pick you up a few IZOD crew shirts and Dockers khakis."

 

[Rant]

I think that's a question that should be asked the parent and the child. If I were in the situation, I'd fully support my child but being that I don't have a child, I don't feel it's my place to tell someone how to raise their child unless it involves them abusing their kid, which I'd then have to report them to the authorities over.

I know what it's like to be told your feelings as a child are invalid, just your imagination or just a phase. I grew up with kids who were in the closet and didn't come out until they were in their 20s.

You didn’t answer my questions at all..
if you need it to be some fake scenario where you have one, so be it..

I have a 4 year old
Both my partner and I are huge on gentle patenting. With that our son is growing up to handle his emotions and also knows we are always there to sympathize and validate his feelings.

If he came to me one day and told me that he told me he thought he was a she, I would be there to listen, try my best to understand, and sympathize with my son. I don’t need to say “yes go follow your inner feelings” because what if he’s just… wrong. A lot of us go through phases. If my son came out as gay, whatever, no harm no foul, but I’m not going to let my son completely alter his life when his brain hasn’t even fully developed yet.

 

[Deleted member 292068]

You didn’t answer my questions at all..
if you need it to be some fake scenario where you have one, so be it..

I have a 4 year old
Both my partner and I are huge on gentle patenting. With that our son is growing up to handle his emotions and also knows we are always there to sympathize and validate his feelings.

If he came to me one day and told me that he told me he thought he was a she, I would be there to listen, try my best to understand, and sympathize with my son. I don’t need to say “yes go follow your inner feelings” because what if he’s just… wrong. A lot of us go through phases. If my son came out as gay, whatever, no harm no foul, but I’m not going to let my son completely alter his life when his brain hasn’t even fully developed yet.

I didn't feel the need to answer the questions because people are acting like 5 year olds are having their gentiles removed faster than you can place a Grubhub order. The surgeries are illegal up until 16, by then I'd be pretty sure if they were serious.

 

[saltandvinegarchips]

You sound like one of those whacky conservatives and evangelical nutjobs Frank Zappa fought against in the 1980s, when he fought against the likes of ‘The Parents Music Resource Center’ and their idea of censoring “explicit lyrical content”.

I'm not sure of the specifics of what you're talking about, but perhaps "The Parents Music Resource Center" was onto something because modern society is more antisocial than ever, and that can largely be blamed on the glorification of drug addiction, violence, and other antisocial behaviors in modern music

 

[non-Bidenary]

Boba and Darth,
I’m sorry if you posted your take on this before, but I’m not going to go digging for it
I’d like to hear your takes on these questions

Do you mind telling me your stance on children seeking gender reassignment?

What age you think would be appropriate to seek reassignment?

What requirements that should be met before you move on with surgery?

I really thought I had made a response to these questions just a few hours ago, stating something how I thought these questions were spot on. Or something to that affect. Well, anyway, in case I didn't... ...These are some darn good questions.

 

[Anonymooose]

Boba and Darth,
I’m sorry if you posted your take on this before, but I’m not going to go digging for it
I’d like to hear your takes on these questions

Do you mind telling me your stance on children seeking gender reassignment?

What age you think would be appropriate to seek reassignment?

What requirements that should be met before you move on with surgery?

Hi, trans person here 👋

As a person who wanted to be a boy when he was a kid I can look at these questions and answer from a child and adult perspective.

If my child came up to me and said they were the opposite gender, I would listen and understand what they’re saying and explain it’s okay to feel that way. It doesn’t mean that it’ll be a case of going through any serious surgeries or medication changes at that age, it’ll be a case of, allowing them to express themselves with how they want to be viewed, dress or act. They want to wear boys clothes? Go ahead. Want to cut your hair short? Sweet, let’s do that. Want to change your name to a boys name? We can practice that, doesn’t need to be a legalise document but more of let’s vocally just say it.

Kids go through so many different phases as they grow, if they decide that actually they don’t want to be a boy and want to be a girl? Cool, let’s do that. You do you, hun. Whatever makes you happy. Whatever makes you feel validated.

As for medication or hormones changes or even surgeries? These would be something that happens on later on in their teen life where more serious discussions are to be had.

I would love to continue this and explain further but right now I have a child demanding I give her my full attention.

Be back soon,

Moose.

 

[DontCostYaNuffin]

I'm not sure of the specifics of what you're talking about, but perhaps "The Parents Music Resource Center" was onto something because modern society is more antisocial than ever, and that can largely be blamed on the glorification of drug addiction, violence, and other antisocial behaviors in modern music

Violence and “antisocial” behaviour isn’t caused by lyrical content. It is caused by a society that expresses depreciation of education and a dismissal of art, literature and science. It reminds me of this episode of Top Gear when the presenters drove through Alabama and painted each other’s cars with slogans such as ‘I’m bi’ and ‘man love rules’, which almost got them killed.

What is the definition of antisocial behaviour? Seems that what is “normal” or “abnormal” is multi-interpretable. What was considered ethical or just in the 1880s isn’t considered as such today. That’s because our moral and ethical values are subject to change. Or do you still live the way your ancestors did during the Mesolithic period when they were hunter-gatherers?

Not being able to express oneself would be antisocial behaviour on part of the government and religious institutions that influence American society. Everyone should be able to express oneself. Suicide rates are high among the Lgbtqia+ community, because a lack of acceptance and being ridiculed and bullied leads to mental health problems.

 

[Rant]

It reminds me of this episode of Top Gear when the presenters drove through Alabama and painted each other’s cars with slogans such as ‘I’m bi’ and ‘man love rules’, which almost got them killed.

Oh come on, it’s reality TV, of course they’re gonna do what they can to create **** TV. I’m sure more than likely this was faked by the producers.

What is the definition of antisocial behaviour? Seems that what is “normal” or “abnormal” is multi-interpretable. What was considered ethical or just in the 1880s isn’t considered as such today. That’s because our moral and ethical values are subject to change. Or do you still live the way your ancestors did during the Mesolithic period when they were hunter-gatherers?

Just because things change doesn’t mean they’re always for the better or that mistakes don’t happen.

Not being able to express oneself would be antisocial behaviour on part of the government and religious institutions that influence American society. Everyone should be able to express oneself.

Legally, I think just about anyone is able to express themselves as they want, the government isn’t stopping them unless it’s children (and if anything, I feel like they need more of a hold on that) I agree, everyone should be able to express themselves as they want, but I think the general population just don’t want things shoved down their throats, just like I’m sure how you (and I) wouldn’t want religious people come knocking on your door and try to sell you god.

Suicide rates are high among the Lgbtqia+ community, because a lack of acceptance and being ridiculed and bullied leads to mental health problems.

Ah I’m gonna go ahead and say there’s a lot more to their mental health problems than not just the lack of acceptance being bullied

 

[DontCostYaNuffin]

Oh come on, it’s reality TV, of course they’re gonna do what they can to create **** TV. I’m sure more than likely this was faked by the producers.

Just because things change doesn’t mean they’re always for the better or that mistakes don’t happen.


Legally, I think just about anyone is able to express themselves as they want, the government isn’t stopping them unless it’s children (and if anything, I feel like they need more of a hold on that) I agree, everyone should be able to express themselves as they want, but I think the general population just don’t want things shoved down their throats, just like I’m sure how you (and I) wouldn’t want religious people come knocking on your door and try to sell you god.


Ah I’m gonna go ahead and say there’s a lot more to their mental health problems than not just the lack of acceptance being bullied

The sad thing is, it wasn’t staged. States like Alabama are more intolerable and bigoted than you want to believe, or did you already know this but were you being disingenuous?

Your counter argument that things don’t always change for the better misses the point of what I’m trying to get across. What is considered normal or abnormal isn’t a historically fixed phenomenon, meaning that it constantly changes. It is therefore completely subjective. If morals and ethics were objective phenomena, they would continue to remain the same throughout history. This brings me to the part of your comment where you make a value judgment, where you state that change doesn’t always lead to a positive outcome and can lead to mistakes. I already pointed out that morals and ethics are subjective, so my question to you would be. Who gets negatively effected by one’s desire to express oneself? Nobody. The only institutions who’d get negatively effected by people wanting to be who they want to be, are the hateful and bigoted institutions that try to exert control over us i.e. moral policing, because they’d get undermined and exposed for how corrupt and silly they really are.

 

[saltandvinegarchips]

Violence and “antisocial” behaviour isn’t caused by lyrical content. It is caused by a society that expresses depreciation of education and a dismissal of art, literature and science.

So you don't think that music or other entertainment forms that glorify unhealthy or criminal behavior could influence young people into doing things they wouldn't otherwise do? lmao

What is the definition of antisocial behaviour? Seems that what is “normal” or “abnormal” is multi-interpretable. What was considered ethical or just in the 1880s isn’t considered as such today. That’s because our moral and ethical values are subject to change. Or do you still live the way your ancestors did during the Mesolithic period when they were hunter-gatherers?

I don't think you understand what "antisocial behavior" means, here --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-social_behaviour

 

[Deleted member 292068]

I'm not sure of the specifics of what you're talking about, but perhaps "The Parents Music Resource Center" was onto something because modern society is more antisocial than ever, and that can largely be blamed on the glorification of drug addiction, violence, and other antisocial behaviors in modern music

No one glorifies drug addiction, but society has always condemned addicts and shame them so they're not as compelled to seek help. Music has nothing to do with this, nor have video games. The only finds are that social media sites have an impact on many to lack empathy.

 

[Anonymooose]

And I’m backkkk.

As for the serious wanting to change, this comes with a deep conversation.

In the UK, you have to live as your preferred gender for I think at least two years? Before you can consider hormone changes or surgery at least if you want to do it on the NHS.

And I think this should be the case for teenagers who are having these thoughts, have them be their preferred gender for at least two years, see how they feel and if this is something that they want going forward. Call it a trial run.

No one should ever force their own beliefs and wants for another person on them.

Take it from a person who spent most of his life inside of himself wanting to come out and be free? Yeah it’s fucking shît. I wish I could go back and tell 15 year old me just to bite the bullet and tell people how I truly felt.