Open Letter

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purplerose

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Dear Site Admin, Cm(s)

Why have you let this site fail and fall into such disrepair?


Posts/Threads- Posts/Threads are ghost edited and closed for no reason. Many times not even breaking any rules. People with no concern with the forums ask for threads to be closed mid discussion most times, and it's done.
Why are posts/threads being deleted or moved to mod forums? especially when its not needed, and then having them be labeled “sensitive mod material” when it was clearly part of the discussion and no sensitive data was posted in open forums.
And then on the far end, users cannot use certain email truncation's to sign up or even contact you to alert you to issues with the site. Many times with issues going on days before action is taken. The fun threads are killed within 3 posts but the seriously, potentially serious threat threads are left for days.

Staff- It seems to be true that in SOME rooms a user must have VIP in order to become moderator? Basically what you/ the room admin are promoting is Pay To Play. Which makes it far less fair and balanced. not only for the other mods that have to work in the same room. but for the users they feel they wont get a fair decision when rules are broken. fair and balanced SHOULD be 1 of the qualities of a moderator, not their ability to pay. This site is missing out on some great moderators simply because they haven't paid (or paid recently).
Why do you treat the staff as they are poop on the bottom of your shoe? And no i certainly dont mean open an AMA or answer every single “HEY” pm. BUT you certainly should be answering your admins and reading what they say, not only do some have their rooms pulse , but most have their moderators insights as well, and no one has a better understanding of each one's room ( and even forums) better than the room's moderators, and anyone that tells you different is lying. Why don't you trust your admins to make good decisions for the room/forums? If you cant let them do the volunteer job, why did you hire them? It reflects badly on you when an admin/room/forum mods have to say, nope i cant do it. If they are your staff they should be given access to the tools to do what they were put there to do. If they don't do it, remove them if you must, not punish the entire group. we've been through this before and we learned taking tools/options away only hurts this site, its users and its bottom line. And yes, it's hurting the bottom line, 15 forums users online at a time is borderline dead.
Why is it taking months to turn mods blue? If users cannot tell who's who in forums how are users supposed to take what a mod says seriously and get users to follow the rules. Why are mods modding the room before being turned blue in forums?
Again , on the far end here, a moderator and an admin admitted to running a script in forums this past weekend. Historically, they would have been removed and banned. You've removed and banned for posting a poem before, and script running is far far far worse.

Rules- Why is there suddenly an influx of new rules? There are rules and then there are CORE rules, have fun, don’t hack, no flashing pictures, C,F,N,R word isn't acceptable. Now other words are now added to that list. And it seems that other unknown;unnamed rules are being placed and enforced. Forum bans are inconsistent with the crime, as well as no warnings or use of the ban reason box. Lack of users kills a site but so does over moderation/rules. Why is common sense not used more often? Why is it not inferred it should be used 1st when making a moderation decision?

You and I(the cm name) have gotten along like oil and water and i won't be sorry for it nor will I expect it to change. C/A is no longer a priority to you,and we(i) get that. But if you want this site to survive until the end of the year you're going to have to listen to some of us and change some things on this site. Or you'll be left with the f%%k week bots and script kiddies, and will be more of a laughing stock than it already is.




i have copies(mainly stated because of point 1)
#FreeLuka
TL😀R then get out, doors <----------- i dont do it often anymore but when i do its f%%ked up and it needs a change.
 
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the list populates newest login/visit 1st
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meaning in the everyone tab... guests are logging in twice the time of users

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on the guest tab almost all of them are viewing 'unknown page" there are about 100 or so more guest names to go through but it looks as if whatever program or attack ( also could be system updates) happening outweighs guests who are reading rules links clicked from the intro post in the rooms.
 
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the list populates newest login/visit 1st
NX8ew6p.png

meaning in the everyone tab... guests are logging in twice the time of users

hS9uMgq.png

tRn2kWX.png


on the guest tab almost all of them are viewing 'unknown page" there are about 100 or so more guest names to go through but it looks as if whatever program or attack ( also could be system updates) happening outweighs guests who are reading rules links clicked from the intro post in the rooms.
Hello Rose, im not "yapping" about anything. I simply felt it was noteworthy- and I appreciate your explanation, thank you.
 
tIobok1.png


the list populates newest login/visit 1st
NX8ew6p.png

meaning in the everyone tab... guests are logging in twice the time of users

hS9uMgq.png

tRn2kWX.png


on the guest tab almost all of them are viewing 'unknown page" there are about 100 or so more guest names to go through but it looks as if whatever program or attack ( also could be system updates) happening outweighs guests who are reading rules links clicked from the intro post in the rooms.
Can't believe people still don't know how to use this as it's available to all .
 
Can't believe people still don't know how to use this as it's available to all .
Have they always listed the robots as robots because I have not noticed this. I looked at the numbers and most are the robot SEMRush.
I am guessing this is a robot that Chat Avenue is using to up their numbers?
It becomes laughable and back to the point that these forums are dead. I know the staff who states that forums is buzzing surely knows about clicking that tab and finding out who are guests, robots and users. I mean once he said there were 120 users on line and turned out almost 100 of these were bots.
These forums are dead the only solution is to make Kim forum admin, make Orange and Purplerose UMs, unban Luka.
 
Hello Rose, im not "yapping" about anything. I simply felt it was noteworthy- and I appreciate your explanation, thank you.
HR if you click the tab it shows now the number of guests, users and now Robots. If you look at current states there are 15 guests, 12 members and 3 pages of robots. Are you responsible for the SEMRUSH one? Face it forums are dead and only alive when things get stirred up a bit.
 
@BlackLivesMatter older versions of vBulletin user/guest/robots werent separated by the tabs. there were always 1 or 2 web data collecting robots on them too, not to the point this one has it. i personally like the separation version i can go straight to the member tab and look.
 
If you feel the forums are dead then why not go to one of the myriad of chat rooms that are not as dead and socialize there? I know some people use the forums more like a chat room than a forum and get their social interaction here. And that’s fine. But adding or removing staff isn’t going to change much. Most people will still spend their time in the chat rooms. As they should on a CHAT site. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
@BlackLivesMatter older versions of vBulletin user/guest/robots werent separated by the tabs. there were always 1 or 2 web data collecting robots on them too, not to the point this one has it. i personally like the separation version i can go straight to the member tab and look.
What is the SEMRUsh one? Do you think this is something CA is using to monitor use?
But the sad thing is there are 6 times as many bots as actually living people. Also the guest accounts not sure if those are random people googling porn and being led here.
 
Adding/Removing staff will certainly change stuff. it always has and always will. users that wont log in/visit anymore might come back . users who are here might move on. its surprising what this site does when run properly.


@BlackLivesMatter to quote their website

SemrushBot​

A bot, also known as a web robot, web spider or web crawler, is a software application designed to automatically perform simple and repetitive tasks in a more effective, structured, and concise manner than any human can ever do.

The most common use of bots is in web spidering or web crawling.
from a quick search most social forums use it (allow it) to live update things like reputation (likes) status' user ranks and the stats page
+ to cure your curiosity further it is an up and up web crawling bot, it can be stopped with a command. and if you dont want it to crawl your website you can contact them and they will walk you through how to set up a stop. which puts them in a positive type of wc.
 
Adding/Removing staff will certainly change stuff. it always has and always will. users that wont log in/visit anymore might come back . users who are here might move on. its surprising what this site does when run properly.


@BlackLivesMatter to quote their website

from a quick search most social forums use it (allow it) to live update things like reputation (likes) status' user ranks and the stats page
+ to cure your curiosity further it is an up and up web crawling bot, it can be stopped with a command. and if you dont want it to crawl your website you can contact them and they will walk you through how to set up a stop. which puts them in a positive type of wc.
You computer smart people amaze me TRUE story back in my day we did not have calculators until I was a junior in college. I took an entire states class using my noggin. So this web spider thing, It looks like something that could be used by a website for research purposes, or used to inflate statistics like someone saying there is 200 users in the forums where as there may be 3 users 2 guest and 195 of those cute little spam spiders in forums.
I say lets buy Chat Avenue a giant can of Raid to get rid of all of those.
 
Adding/Removing staff will certainly change stuff. it always has and always will. users that wont log in/visit anymore might come back . users who are here might move on. its surprising what this site does when run properly.


@BlackLivesMatter to quote their website

from a quick search most social forums use it (allow it) to live update things like reputation (likes) status' user ranks and the stats page
+ to cure your curiosity further it is an up and up web crawling bot, it can be stopped with a command. and if you dont want it to crawl your website you can contact them and they will walk you through how to set up a stop. which puts them in a positive type of wc.
Well, if we're being honest with ourselves, the greatest mechanism for change and user engagement is simply a humble orange
 
You computer smart people amaze me TRUE story back in my day we did not have calculators until I was a junior in college. I took an entire states class using my noggin. So this web spider thing, It looks like something that could be used by a website for research purposes, or used to inflate statistics like someone saying there is 200 users in the forums where as there may be 3 users 2 guest and 195 of those cute little spam spiders in forums.
I say lets buy Chat Avenue a giant can of Raid to get rid of all of those.
i used my TI-86 to pass notes to my BFF during math class. instead of for math.
 
Some of my confusion is they probably use a certain kind of math in Canada that I am not understanding.
In summation Chat Forums are dead except for our catty posts.
I think some changes need to be made. The Difference said well if you don't like chat avenue go to one of the million of sites out there. My response is NO I like this site and I want to change it for the better. If you are unable to do that then you make NO DIFFERENCE.
 
I just spent the last hour reading through all this, and while typing "I just spent" I completely forgot everything I just read...

so to make this not feel like a waste of an hour, I shall be on the safe side and agree with everything that everyone said
 
Some of my confusion is they probably use a certain kind of math in Canada that I am not understanding.
In summation Chat Forums are dead except for our catty posts.
I think some changes need to be made. The Difference said well if you don't like chat avenue go to one of the million of sites out there. My response is NO I like this site and I want to change it for the better. If you are unable to do that then you make NO DIFFERENCE.
you said^^^

If you feel the forums are dead then why not go to one of the myriad of chat rooms that are not as dead and socialize there?

He said^^^ It's very obvious that staff member was referring to this site- Chat Ave- posts like this of yours BLM just show you post a lot to see your own font. Forums is not a chatroom, its a message board.
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you said^^^



He sad^^^ It's very obvious that staff member was referring to this site- Chat Ave- posts like this of yours BLM just show you post a lot to see your own font. Forums is not a chatroom, its a message board.
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Forums is whatever I want it to be for me but using it as a message board then PLEASE RESIGN.
The VIP has made the chat rooms essentially message boards as well. All they do is post gifs and video links. Get your facts straight.
 
@BlackLivesMatter you and the spider and teddy bear man have a bond eh?

  1. Robot: Bing

No actually I had all intent to ban that person as in perma ban and since that was no longer allowed I would just keep that creep out of the room. I am glad you did learn a new forum tool make sure you thank @ mama Purplerose for that. And you have validated my point that chat avenue probably is the one using these bots to increase numbers.
My point is with the gifs and video links chat is no longer chat. You just get a long string of gifs or music links. At least if forum people still chat. So please RESIGN, pretty please? I will only make nice comments about you and never bother you in chat if you let go of the forums.
 
You computer smart people amaze me TRUE story back in my day we did not have calculators until I was a junior in college. I took an entire states class using my noggin. So this web spider thing, It looks like something that could be used by a website for research purposes, or used to inflate statistics like someone saying there is 200 users in the forums where as there may be 3 users 2 guest and 195 of those cute little spam spiders in forums.
I say lets buy Chat Avenue a giant can of Raid to get rid of all of those.
If you remember the 60's. you weren't really there.

So are you old old, or just old? 😆
 
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