Should we allow people who are male in lesbian chat?

TheEridianNinja said:
I want it noted that I specifically said that femboys and trans-women in Gay Chat tend to be somewhat popular, and I can't imagine it's different in Lesbian Chat with trans-men and tomboys.

I specifically mentioned my opinion with gender-curious or gender-vague people, and you brought a discussion about trans people across threads to this one, which largely has nothing to do with trans people.
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i think it's different in lesbian chat because there are lots of men claiming to be women there (and they are probably not even transexual, or transvestite). I base my view on my experiences in adult chat (this site and others), which are full of lying men pretending to be women.

SO - how to moderate it? pretty much impossible.

so, to sum up. I will try to stfu up in future.
I dont wanna make trouble.
Please accept my apologies.
 
TheEridianNinja said:
I can't imagine a male has any good intentions in Lesbian chat, just like how I wouldn't expect a female in Gay chat to have any good intentions. However:
- Some femboys are listed as female in Gay Chat
- Some trans-women are listed as female in Gay Chat
So we can't blindly kick female-listed people because they might have legitimate reason to be there - some gay men are still into trans-women, so it wouldn't make sense to remove them entirely.

Just consider this when factoring in your opinion. It's valid, but not everything is black and white (especially in the LGBT community)
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You're forgetting that sometimes, the pink, blue, or grey ring just matches the vibe of the pfp better than another
 
Why is this even a thing? Pre banning other lbgtq members bc ur assuming what that group will do inside a ltbgq chat room is insane. ill actions of a singular invidiual a part of a group shouldn’t be the reason why u should pre ban the whole group they identifywith . That’s literal the foundation of racism and sad to see it’s leaking into the lgtbq rooms. Let anyone join and let mods weed out the bad ones. Yall better than this.
 
If you want total acceptance of something or another, the last thing you want to do is build walls. Someone’s sexual orientation is not a contagious disease like the Black Death that ravaged Medieval and Early Modern Europe that should be kept isolated and contained. That’s utter madness. Not a single sexual orientation differs from the norm, because there isn’t a norm.

One’s sexual orientation shouldn’t define who you are and it shouldn’t matter what the other persons sexual orientation is. Avoiding people on the basis of their sexual orientation is wild. I hang out with people of all walks of life, irrespective of our preferences or differences. All these different chatroom categories (Singles/Dating/Video Games etc) don’t make sense to me with the exception of the age categories. Rooms shouldn’t be categorized on the basis of preferences. That’s segregation. General Chat is the only chat that makes sense on here, except for the way it’s run. That’s why I stick to Singles, solely because I think the current staff are sound.
 
DontCostYaNuffin said:
If you want total acceptance of something or another, the last thing you want to do is build walls. Someone’s sexual orientation is not a contagious disease like the Black Death that ravaged Medieval and Early Modern Europe that should be kept isolated and contained. That’s utter madness. Not a single sexual orientation differs from the norm, because there isn’t a norm.

One’s sexual orientation shouldn’t define who you are and it shouldn’t matter what the other persons sexual orientation is. Avoiding people on the basis of their sexual orientation is wild. I hang out with people of all walks of life, irrespective of our preferences or differences. All these different chatroom categories (Singles/Dating/Video Games etc) don’t make sense to me with the exception of the age categories. Rooms shouldn’t be categorized on the basis of preferences. That’s segregation. General Chat is the only chat that makes sense on here, except for the way it’s run. That’s why I stick to Singles, solely because I think the current staff are sound.
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that medieval stuff is a bit of a non-sequiter.

There kind of IS a 'norm'.
Hence why we exist, and why the human species exists...
Outies go inside innies, and voila! babies are made.

And hence why most religions focus on the procreation of our species (and indoctrination of our children to make them believe the same things).

You are pretty much correct in general though. I agree with you in principle, mostly
 
RandomGuyUK said:
that medieval stuff is a bit of a non-sequiter.

There kind of IS a 'norm'.
Hence why we exist, and why the human species exists...
Outies go inside innies, and voila! babies are made.

And hence why most religions focus on the procreation of our species (and indoctrination of our children to make them believe the same things).

You are pretty much correct in general though. I agree with you in principle, mostly
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Norms are subjective though, because they are shaped by cultural, social, and individual perspectives. What one group views as acceptable behavior may differ greatly from another’s standards. Sexual orientation is subjective because it is deeply personal and shaped by individual feelings, experiences, and identities. People may identify as heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, or other orientations based on their attractions and emotional connections. Cultural, social, and familial influences also play a significant role in how individuals understand and express their sexuality. As society evolves, so do definitions and acceptance of various orientations, highlighting their fluidity. Ultimately, each person's experience of their sexual orientation is unique, reflecting a blend of personal insights and societal context, making it a profoundly subjective aspect of human identity.

Furthermore, there isn’t a norm in the sense that different sexual preferences are rooted in our biology. There isn’t a specific sexuality that deviates from the norm because a norm suggests that there are only a limited number of sexualities that are biologically rooted and are therefore more “legitimate” so to speak. Take the example of homosexuality for instance.
Biologically, homosexuality exists in many species, suggesting it's a natural variation of sexual behavior rather than a deviation from the norm. Research shows that sexual orientation has genetic and hormonal influences, indicating it's an inherent aspect of an individual, similar to other traits. Additionally, the diversity of sexual orientations supports the idea that there isn’t a single “normal” way to experience attraction. Just as other biological traits vary, so does sexual orientation, reinforcing that homosexuality is a normal part of human diversity and not inherently abnormal.
 
DontCostYaNuffin said:
If

One’s sexual orientation shouldn’t define who you are
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What does define who we are, though? in the modern world?
It's pretty much what we choose - regarding defining ourselves.

And that is democracy.
We define ourselves however we wish.


"One’s sexual orientation shouldn’t define who you are and it shouldn’t matter what the other persons sexual orientation is. Avoiding people on the basis of their sexual orientation is wild"
--- so that is your opinion; but if others think differently, then that is their choice, and you shouldnt hate on them, because that makes you guilty of exactly the same errors as others are doing.

maybe.
its late i'm drunk.
 
RandomGuyUK said:
What does define who we are, though? in the modern world?
It's pretty much what we choose - regarding defining ourselves.

And that is democracy.
We define ourselves however we wish.


"One’s sexual orientation shouldn’t define who you are and it shouldn’t matter what the other persons sexual orientation is. Avoiding people on the basis of their sexual orientation is wild"
--- so that is your opinion; but if others think differently, then that is their choice, and you shouldnt hate on them, because that makes you guilty of exactly the same errors as others are doing.

maybe.
its late i'm drunk.
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What we choose does not always define who we are, as our identity is shaped by a multitude of factors beyond our decisions. Choices can be influenced by external circumstances, societal pressures, and personal experiences, which may not reflect our true selves. For instance, someone might choose a career path due to societal expectations rather than personal passion, yet their core identity is rooted in their interests and values. Moreover, identity is fluid and evolves over time. A person may make choices that align with their current situation but may later realize that these decisions do not encapsulate their true essence. Our beliefs, emotions, and relationships play significant roles in shaping who we are, often more so than our choices alone. Additionally, the complexity of human experience means that individuals can embody various aspects of identity simultaneously. For example, someone may identify as a compassionate person, even if they occasionally make decisions that contradict that trait. Ultimately, our identity is a rich tapestry woven from choices, experiences, values, and the deeper aspects of our being, reminding us that it’s essential to look beyond choices to understand the true essence of who we are.
 
RandomGuyUK said:
What does define who we are, though? in the modern world?
It's pretty much what we choose - regarding defining ourselves.

And that is democracy.
We define ourselves however we wish.


"One’s sexual orientation shouldn’t define who you are and it shouldn’t matter what the other persons sexual orientation is. Avoiding people on the basis of their sexual orientation is wild"
--- so that is your opinion; but if others think differently, then that is their choice, and you shouldnt hate on them, because that makes you guilty of exactly the same errors as others are doing.

maybe.
its late i'm drunk.
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Your comment that: “so that is your opinion; but if others think differently, then that is their choice, and you shouldnt hate on them, because that makes you guilty of exactly the same errors as others are doing” is non-sequitur, because the conclusion does not logically follow from the premise. It’s a bit like saying that it’s okay to defend or promote genocide, purely because it is an opinion and everyone should have the right to an opinion, not accounting for the fact that such an opinion can cause harm to a certain group within society, be it people with a certain sexual orientation or ethnic minority. You’re basically excluding groups from having an opinion.

So yeah, way to go, Adolf. Thanks for showing your true colours.
 
DontCostYaNuffin said:
Your comment that: “so that is your opinion; but if others think differently, then that is their choice, and you shouldnt hate on them, because that makes you guilty of exactly the same errors as others are doing” is non-sequitur, because the conclusion does not logically follow from the premise. It’s a bit like saying that it’s okay to defend or promote genocide, purely because it is an opinion and everyone should have the right to an opinion, not accounting for the fact that such an opinion can cause harm to a certain group within society, be it people with a certain sexual orientation or ethnic minority. You’re basically excluding groups from having an opinion.

So yeah, way to go, Adolf. Thanks for showing your true colours.
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calling me hitler because you dont have the wit to engage in conversation.
retard.

p.s. also parroting what I said re 'non-sequiter'.
You type a lot, but you arent very intelligent.
Sucks to be you.
 
RandomGuyUK said:
calling me hitler because you dont have the wit to engage in conversation.
retard.
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DontCostYaNuffin said:
Your comment that: “so that is your opinion; but if others think differently, then that is their choice, and you shouldnt hate on them, because that makes you guilty of exactly the same errors as others are doing” is non-sequitur, because the conclusion does not logically follow from the premise. It’s a bit like saying that it’s okay to defend or promote genocide, purely because it is an opinion and everyone should have the right to an opinion, not accounting for the fact that such an opinion can cause harm to a certain group within society, be it people with a certain sexual orientation or ethnic minority. You’re basically excluding groups from having an opinion.

So yeah, way to go, Adolf. Thanks for showing your true colours.
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ALSO, you rude **** - EVERY opinion is valid in the marketplace of ideas.
the only way to find the truth is if we allow every and all opinion (no matter how distasteful) to be expressed.
JS MILL.

Of course everyone should have the right to an opinion,
Of course we all should, are you stupid or something ?

Even you should have the right to an opinion.

And, yes, it is kind of ok to defend or promote genocide - in principle; it's an opinion.
But it is a shi tt y opinion, and has been roundly defeated by other opposing opinions.

If you shut down opinions you disagree with, without confronting them intelligently and intellectually, then you lose. They win.
don't be an idiot.
 
Summerishere said:
Why is this even a thing? Pre banning other lbgtq members bc ur assuming what that group will do inside a ltbgq chat room is insane. ill actions of a singular invidiual a part of a group shouldn’t be the reason why u should pre ban the whole group they identifywith . That’s literal the foundation of racism and sad to see it’s leaking into the lgtbq rooms. Let anyone join and let mods weed out the bad ones. Yall better than this.
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it's a thing because males are fundamentally different than females.

I know some people want to think (delusionally) that we are all the same - and maybe we are as humans - but men and women are not the same. why this needs to be explained, reiterated, is beyond my comprehension.
 
Chobits said:
Absolutely not in my world.
Whatever happened to equality and fairness to the women???

In a rigid sense I think not, the surface may have changed for males wanting to exchange words with other lesbian’s but they are what they are. On a personal level I think it is right in any way.
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We have a lot of Male lesbians 🙂 hope you get my point lol
 
DontCostYaNuffin said:
If you want total acceptance of something or another, the last thing you want to do is build walls. Someone’s sexual orientation is not a contagious disease like the Black Death that ravaged Medieval and Early Modern Europe that should be kept isolated and contained. That’s utter madness. Not a single sexual orientation differs from the norm, because there isn’t a norm.

One’s sexual orientation shouldn’t define who you are and it shouldn’t matter what the other persons sexual orientation is. Avoiding people on the basis of their sexual orientation is wild. I hang out with people of all walks of life, irrespective of our preferences or differences. All these different chatroom categories (Singles/Dating/Video Games etc) don’t make sense to me with the exception of the age categories. Rooms shouldn’t be categorized on the basis of preferences. That’s segregation. General Chat is the only chat that makes sense on here, except for the way it’s run. That’s why I stick to Singles, solely because I think the current staff are sound.
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I disagree with General Chat - there is not one room on this site that is not for 18 above that doesn't involve sex (for people who are not interested in that genre) the room is 13+ and a mindfield for fake teens and older preying upon them. In every aspect of life no teen would want to hang out with older folks that is just pure rubbish! They have teen chat, kids chat, girls chat why do they need to be in General? I know there is singles chat but the rubbish that goes there you are unable to have a decent conversation (not everyone).
 
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