Should Chat Avenue Allow Underage Moderators?

Vote for your answer to the debate question, (mods under 18 )

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 41.5%

  • No

    Votes: 18 43.9%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 6 14.6%
  • Total voters
    41
  • Poll closed .
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OriginalScreenName said:
This isn't really a problem for admins, all you guys can do is follow CMs rules.

If CM wants to allow children to moderate in any of the chatrooms that are obviously visited by people of all ages, along with criminals that like to prey on children, that becomes a problem for CM to have to worry about on a legal matter.

If I was a parent, I wouldn't allow my child to moderate on this garbage site. So the morality of it all doesn't boil down to the "maturity" of what a child thinks they have, that doesn't mean jack to anyone in any of the 50 states if they are underage, and it doesn't matter for a reason.

Moreover, I would be more curious as to why my child is conversing with adults on any website, let alone having some kind of friendship with an adult to the point that my child felt comfortable enough to give out any kind of information to an adult, in this case, to be a moderator. Maybe the debate shouldn't be whether chat ave allows underage children to be mods( because if one really needs to debate that, there is a bigger mental problem for asking the question in the first place), but, should adults, in general, be talking to children online for any reason on a chat site, that is not geared to be done so in a professional and monitored manner by a professional agency either by government, state, mental health agency, an associated teachers organization, or some kind of combination,,etc. (This is really a rhetorical question as well; if you need to debate why you don't have to stay in your lane, then the mental health **** you are dealing with, is something i want no part of.)

The problem boils down to parental guidance, parents need to be making the decisions in their underage children's lives and monitoring their child's internet activities; for me personally, right upto 17 years of age, by the time a child hits 17 one is entering into adulthood and life changes at least in regard to privacy and letting a teenager of 17+ have unfettered privacy.

Then the next question should be, what legal ramifications are there for an " Admin " or CM in allowing an underage child moderate in any of the chatrooms on this site. If there is none, then that is the end of the debate and everything else is just personal opinion.

if CM doesn't have verified information on admins,and that info isn't easily accessible to the public or parents, that need to know for whatever reason, why would I if I was a parent, just willy nilly trust an adult talking to my child to " become a moderator".

People want to be stupid, ignorant, whatever and engage with children online, pft. Good luck.
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great post in fairness, it's an excellant argument on whether actually under 17/18s should mod the rooms. This site however does have a kids chat room, is it not in their best interest to maybe have an adult admin and a couple of kid mods to keep the room in synch and involved?
 
I do not agree with the owner allowing kids on his site full stop !!!!! This site has been around many years it’s perv city groomer city and troll city and a fair few decent people kids should NOT be set in rank especially under 18 they are NOT legal ! It’s not appropriate this site has lots of over age ******** /VIPs MOD somone above age !!!!!! Mod a adult !!! Its seriously a no brainer
 
Amaisey said:
great post in fairness, it's an excellant argument on whether actually under 17/18s should mod the rooms. This site however does have a kids chat room, is it not in their best interest to maybe have an adult admin and a couple of kid mods to keep the room in synch and involved?
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It is probably in their best interest to have a verified adult mod. Instead, you have kids watching kids, who are not verified and might be adults.

Otherwise you have Ps going to kidss chat and sending illegal content, and then having kids handle the illegal content, and speak to CM about said illegal content to get VIP users in trouble.
 
Amaisey said:
great post in fairness, it's an excellant argument on whether actually under 17/18s should mod the rooms. This site however does have a kids chat room, is it not in their best interest to maybe have an adult admin and a couple of kid mods to keep the room in synch and involved?
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I’d have to say no to kids moderating kids chat. Tho I don’t think having 40 somethings moderating it either is a good idea. An admin say in his/her twenties, with mods 18-early twenty something. Still young enough to relate to the kids there. Yet when I say kids it’s still 13-18 I think, maybe 17 I’m not sure, which is the ages we get in Girls Chat.

Amaisey said:
Over 17's for me
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That’s good to know 🙂. With no mods around the room can get creepy with the peds and pervs, stuff that minors have no business dealing with at a staff level. Users can ignore adult content, staff really can’t, so any underage mod is thereby forced to view it, where that’s something I know you and the rest of the staff actively tries to keep away from minors.
 
different countries…
different laws, for different ages…

a 12 year old can be exposed to sex in mexico, & it be totally legal, meanwhile in america thats a sex crime…

this is a subjective debate, neither side will be more right than the other…

w.e, if they arent modding a room that is specifically 18+ then who cares, honestly…

has anyone just tried not fuckin’ worrying about it??? i swear u guys worry way too much about sh*t…

im flying to california & dont care about anythings ~
 
babydolla said:
different countries…
different laws, for different ages…

a 12 year old can be exposed to sex in mexico, & it be totally legal, meanwhile in america thats a sex crime…

this is a subjective debate, neither side will be more right than the other…

w.e, if they arent modding a room that is specifically 18+ then who cares, honestly…

has anyone just tried not fuckin’ worrying about it??? i swear u guys worry way too much about sh*t…

im flying to california & dont care about anythings ~
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For one thing 12 year olds aren’t allowed to chat here at all. All rooms are 13+ at the minimum. Secondly, most of us do actually care if minors are being subjected to CP, porn, pedos, pervs etc. 14,15,16 year old kids don’t need to be exposed to that crap here. It’s supposed to be the duty of staff to keep it away from kids, not put them on the front line of it. Also, Chat Avenue uses 18 as the standard for regulating minors.
 
SouporMan said:
What confuses me, is if I report CP knowingly to a minor, is that not against the law?

This website encourages users to send CP to minors.
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I totally agree 💯.

FairyxStar_oOo said:
Ok put it this way kids will be kids yes but there’s a thin line !! Modding is not for a underage child I was 25 when I became a mod/admin I’m now 32 !!!!! I’m well at the top now but we are talking underage children I just can’t approve there’s no other way it’s a no brainer just no chose an older chatter
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Amen to that.
 
FairyxStar_oOo said:
Ok put it this way kids will be kids yes but there’s a thin line !! Modding is not for a underage child I was 25 when I became a mod/admin I’m now 32 !!!!! I’m well at the top now but we are talking underage children I just can’t approve there’s no other way it’s a no brainer just no chose an older chatter
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wat about the kids room, should under 18s with some sorta common sense and maturity be able to mod that? In all fairness lets not right off all under 18s .
 
Amaisey said:
wat about the kids room, should under 18s with some sorta common sense and maturity be able to mod that? In all fairness lets not right off all under 18s .
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No I think he should close the under age rooms I don’t see it in any other way it’s screaming pervs come in groomers all sorts I don’t agree with any of it
 
I think if he’s going to have the rooms open they should chat in main only no pms and it should be an trusted adult admin watching them maybe himself no don’t even set them in rank whatsoever call me mean strictt be my guest I strongly believe in what I say
 
So now it’s 17? Let’s be fair here and decide on an age. 17 or 18?

A lot of countries around the world and states of USA it’s 16 to legally ‘do the deed.’ The 18+ is a federal US law that applies to ‘adult content’ in the USA, and generally sites hosted in the States (admittedly, this is also pushed onto other countries around the world because, well … ‘Mericaaa!)

If we’re going to start talking about legality vs morality, let’s compare apples with apples and oranges to oranges. Stop cherry picking between the two.

From a legal standpoint, this site seems to pick and chose laws from international standards and US standards, so it’s a bit of a grey area anyways.

From a moral perspective, I’m about 7 months off being the age of consent in my country. Once I’m 16, I can legally have sex, but because of America, I can’t legally go to a room and discuss it? Because it’s only immoral in their eyes, not my country of origin.

So, can some of you hardass naysayers tell me, are we talking legally? Morally? Is it 17? 18? Why was it decided to be ok for some rooms to be 17 but not be a problem? Can someone please explain all these conundrums to me?
 
Amaisey said:
we close off everything coz of perverts, yea lets make them win...sure
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Why a closed room suggestion I’m not being tight strict or mean I’m doing what I do best protecting kids from online harm groomers child peds !!!! That’s why I was the best mod best admin best superadmin and now I own a site !!!!! 👸🏻
 
Amaisey said:
we close off everything coz of perverts, yea lets make them win...sure
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No one is closing off anything. The simple fact is minors aren’t old enough to be subjected to moderating adult content. That’s not a punishment. That’s keeping kids safe. We don’t kids in to see rated r movies, yet allowing them to deal with x rated material here is somehow ok? I know you didn’t say that but many people are and that’s not ok.
 
DarthErica said:
No one is closing off anything. The simple fact is minors aren’t old enough to be subjected to moderating adult content. That’s not a punishment. That’s keeping kids safe. We don’t kids in to see rated r movies, yet allowing them to deal with x rated material here is somehow ok? I know you didn’t say that but many people are and that’s not ok.
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she understands now I have explained to her x
 
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