Should Chat Avenue Allow Underage Moderators?

Vote for your answer to the debate question, (mods under 18 )

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 41.5%

  • No

    Votes: 18 43.9%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 6 14.6%
  • Total voters
    41
  • Poll closed .
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Creed101 said:
General chat is the age is 13+. She was asked to help and she said yes that’s not your decision to decide. She wants to and was asked to help so let her help i don’t get what’s so difficult here. And if you’re gonna respond back to this say something original for once. IT’S HER MIND NOT YOURS.
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She was asked for help by the admin because of relevant skills and experience (she could be used and you never know).

Also, want to make it clear that I am not taking anyone's side or trying to cause any trouble.

You seem extremely upset and I'm backing away.

And, I'm trying to figure out if the Kids Chat removal had a valid purpose or not (she seemed not to know).

She is a minor, and she deserves to be protected and respected.

We have no control over what she does or sees online. If she is exposed to adult content or other inappropriate material, we cannot stop her or protect her. We can only advise her and educate her. Therefore, it is too late to go back and undo what has been done.
 
XRosalinaX said:
She was asked for help by the admin because of relevant skills and experience (she could be used and you never know).

Also, want to make it clear that I am not taking anyone's side or trying to cause any trouble.

You seem extremely upset and I'm backing away.

And, I'm trying to figure out if the Kids Chat removal had a valid purpose or not (she seemed not to know).

She is a minor, and she deserves to be protected and respected.

We have no control over what she does or sees online. If she is exposed to adult content or other inappropriate material, we cannot stop her or protect her. We can only advise her and educate her. Therefore, it is too late to go back and undo what has been done.
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I’m not angry at you. I’m just stating a point it’s not geared toward you. Don’t worry.
 
SouporMan said:
Because this thread is being derailed, and no one is admitting the obvious. This website is supporting minors receiving CP. It doesn't matter what you think, or how mature you feel a minor is, its the truth of the matter.
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And they’re not gonna do anything about it sadly so deal with it.
 
Creed101 said:
And they’re not gonna do anything about it sadly so deal with it.
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So because the website isn't doing anything with it, we are suppose to deal with the illegal activity that goes on this website? Yeah sorry.

This crime involves children, and I get that you don't care, but some of us do.
 
So I just wanna set the record straight about Samwise twisting something I said last night.
DarthErica said:
This is my exact quote: “I can only speak for myself here. But the honest answer here is I never paid attention to kids chat. I never saw any complaints here on forums about creeps, peds, pervs, cp etc on there. Not to say they didn’t exist I just never saw them. And honestly because of that I always figured it was moderated well enough that they were weeded out. It’s only now that I’m hearing that it was/is a land of pedos. I knew there was one or two underage mods there but I didn’t think that that’s what they were dealing with. Had I known that I would have been outspoken a long time ago.”

Now here’s what Sams response was, before turning off my ability to reply to him:
"I always figured it was moderated well enough that they were weeded out." - who weeded them out? the same age group mods you now say shouldn't be able to do it.

You didn't mean it was adults doing the weeding, as you've clearly argued adults shouldn't be in the kids chats (something many others similarly argued)

As I said last night, I never knew it was a haven for creeps. @Samwise please take a moment and read things before twisting them. As I said, I knew there were 1 or 2 minor mods there, but had no idea they were dealing with peds and pervs there. Had I known that I would’ve said that they shouldn’t be modding in that case. And my argument about adults in kids chat has always been clear. Adults should NOT be in there lurking/chatting, only that adults 18 to early mid twenties tops should be modding the room. Hindsight is 20/20.

And you further accuse me of going off topic? That’s a total lie. I simply responded positively to something Pinky said, even complimenting her. You deleted that post why? To cover up the truth because you know you’re wrong perhaps. Be better. Do better. You can’t have a debate about something YOU brought up if you’re going to silence opinions opposing yours. Thank you.
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you are free to post anything in the debate thread. But anything off topic will be removed per debate forum rules. Also, The parameters were clearly set out, again you chose to not follow them. https://forum.chat-avenue.com/threa...nderage-moderators.945734/page-5#post-1190047

Summary: https://forum.chat-avenue.com/threads/the-demise-of-the-forums-and-ums.945622/page-3#post-1190459

Since there are now three threads on this- moving to the correct place.

@Akrta please stop interjecting yourself in every issue.
 
SouporMan said:
So because the website isn't doing anything with it, we are suppose to deal with the illegal activity that goes on this website? Yeah sorry.

This crime involves children, and I get that you don't care, but some of us do.
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There’s nothing we can do about it.
 
SouporMan said:
Lots of the staff seem to agree allowing minors to see CP is okay. Lol, insane.
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I don't think it is about 'allowing' minors to see CP, as this can and does happen IRL too.

There are a lot of problems I agree, but the real issue is the inability to effectively use this software to allow Mods and admins to effectively control the illicit elements as we have seen with other sites who are more focus on the welfare of minors and using the exact same software.

This is more a moral issue of the owners, and a moral issue of the staff that seemingly DEFEND the owners.

Creed101 said:
There’s nothing we can do about it.
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There is actually A LOT than can be done about it, but CM ties your hands and your admins hands behind your backs

SouporMan said:
So because the website isn't doing anything with it, we are suppose to deal with the illegal activity that goes on this website? Yeah sorry.

This crime involves children, and I get that you don't care, but some of us do.
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It is not about the MODS not caring, it is more about the mods wanting to help, but not having the tools to help, and if they speak out against CM, they get fired and therefore can't be in the rooms to do the right thing with the tools they have.

No one is as fucking angry at the appearance that there is a lack of action than I am. I put so much time and effort in to providing information in the Mod Forums via means of a 'Code Breaker' for code words that we have encountered that users use to groom children and I believe @LostCause. still maintains now.
 
Creed101 said:
There’s nothing we can do about it.
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KK, whelp, thanks for your input, you can keep trying to shut me up, but you are not a UM. I am responding to comments I see that warrant my response.

Otherwise I get it creed. You don't have an issue with a 15 year old seeing lewd comments.

Heathen2002 said:
It is not about the MODS not caring, it is more about the mods wanting to help, but not having the tools to help, and if they speak out against CM, they get fired and therefore can't be in the rooms to do the right thing with the tools they have.

No one is as fucking angry at the appearance that there is a lack of action than I am. I put so much time and effort in to providing information in the Mod Forums via means of a 'Code Breaker' for code words that we have encountered that users use to groom children and I believe @LostCause. still maintains now.
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The mods that care are not the ones voting yes, or trying to get others to shut up.

That isn't the case with some of the staff here.
 
SouporMan said:
KK, whelp, thanks for your input, you can keep trying to shut me up, but you are not a UM. I am responding to comments I see that warrant my response.

Otherwise I get it creed. You don't have an issue with a 15 year old seeing lewd comments.
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You’ve been saying the same thing over and over again do something about it then see what you can do. Like I said, before tell me something original. even though you didn’t make the thread you made a similar thread about the LiveChat admin look where that got you. Come back with something different. The person we are talking about is very capable of doing the job regardless of the age.
 
I think it might also be important to point out that in (removed) particular case, she is a resident and citizen of Australia which has quite strict legislation regarding knowingly exposing minors to prohibited online content. @Chatmaster I highly suggest you not only check the legislation, but also think about the repercussions of knowingly hiring minors to sift through prohibited or inappropriate online content.
 
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